[UPDATE...got it!] New PC mostly for 2k17...need advice

[maumau78]

Guys....the budget is around 900€ (I already have KB / Mouse /Screen) ...do you like this config of (probably) my new RIG?

- INTEL QUADCORE I5-4570 3.2GHZ LGA 1150 CACHE 6MB BOX BX80646I54570
- COOLER MASTER FAN CLM GEMINII SF524 COMBO SK RR-G524-13FK-R1
- ASUS B85M-E C2 90MB0F60-M0EAY5
- KINGSTON 8GB 1600MHZ DDR3 HYPERX FURY HX316C10F/8
- KINGSTON 8GB 1600MHZ DDR3 HYPERX FURY HX316C10F/8
- KINGSTON 240GB UV400 SSD C2C SUV400S37/240G
- MSI VGA NVIDIA 4GB DDR5 DVI-I/D HDMI DISPLAYPORT GTX 960 GAMING 4G

Any suggestion?
For the OS ...Win7 or Win8 or Win10?

I repeat the budget is the one above...so don't propose me anything > that budget

Thanks in advance

[pat_1335]

is that dual channel ram? you don't need more than 8gb of memory. if you can afford or if an RX 470 is available i think you should go for that. and you don't need an aftermarket cpu cooler hehe by the way what power supply and case are you getting?

[ThePointForward]

OK, there is no real reason to stick with old tech unless you're getting some really good deal on it.

Possible saving points for this build: RAM (down to 8GB), Case (though I can only recommend Define series) and PSU (you could go for somewhat cheaper Seasonic M12-II for example, but you don't want to go too cheap there).

I used german prices btw.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (€202.60 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: Asus H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€66.84 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (€77.84 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: SK hynix SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€75.73 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€53.80 @ Mindfactory)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Mini Video Card (€264.35 @ Mindfactory)
Case: Fractal Design Define S ATX Mid Tower Case (€73.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€93.69 @ Mindfactory)
Total: €908.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-06 15:40 CEST+0200

[maumau78]

OK, there is no real reason to stick with old tech unless you're getting some really good deal on it.

Possible saving points for this build: RAM (down to 8GB), Case (though I can only recommend Define series) and PSU (you could go for somewhat cheaper Seasonic M12-II for example, but you don't want to go too cheap there).

I used german prices btw.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (€202.60 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: Asus H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€66.84 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (€77.84 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: SK hynix SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€75.73 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€53.80 @ Mindfactory)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Mini Video Card (€264.35 @ Mindfactory)
Case: Fractal Design Define S ATX Mid Tower Case (€73.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€93.69 @ Mindfactory)
Total: €908.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-06 15:40 CEST+0200

Ok everything is clear GPU aside...why are you suggesting me this GPU instead of 960 GTX?

Thx in advance

[Dee4Three]

Question for Dommy.

You are recommending a NVIDIA card, which has had nothing but issues with 2K17 (most everything I have heard). AMD GPU's seem to run the game much better with less issues. Would you maybe recommend for 2K17 purposes a R9 290x? or R9 390x? My AMD R9 280x runs the game flawlessy with no issues at all.

Just my opinion, my brothers computer with the GTX 960 (which supposedly is the closest comparison to the R9 280x) has nothing but issues running the game, horrible stuttering, even though I can run The Witcher 3 on High-Ultra and other graphically intensive games.

Even my R9 360 GPU ($100 graphics card) with my A10 5800k processors can run this game on High with AA at 4 and a stable FPS.

[maumau78]

Question for Dommy.

You are recommending a NVIDIA card, which has had nothing but issues with 2K17 (most everything I have heard). AMD GPU's seem to run the game much better with less issues. Would you maybe recommend for 2K17 purposes a R9 290x? or R9 390x? My AMD R9 280x runs the game flawlessy with no issues at all.

Just my opinion, my brothers computer with the GTX 960 (which supposedly is the closest comparison to the R9 280x) has nothing but issues running the game, horrible stuttering, even though I can run The Witcher 3 on High-Ultra and other graphically intensive games.

Even my R9 360 GPU ($100 graphics card) with my A10 5800k processors can run this game on High with AA at 4 and a stable FPS.

Wait? GTX 960 has a lot of problems? So what should I choose?

[Dee4Three]

Question for Dommy.

You are recommending a NVIDIA card, which has had nothing but issues with 2K17 (most everything I have heard). AMD GPU's seem to run the game much better with less issues. Would you maybe recommend for 2K17 purposes a R9 290x? or R9 390x? My AMD R9 280x runs the game flawlessy with no issues at all.

Just my opinion, my brothers computer with the GTX 960 (which supposedly is the closest comparison to the R9 280x) has nothing but issues running the game, horrible stuttering, even though I can run The Witcher 3 on High-Ultra and other graphically intensive games.

Even my R9 360 GPU ($100 graphics card) with my A10 5800k processors can run this game on High with AA at 4 and a stable FPS.

Wait? GTX 960 has a lot of problems? So what should I choose?

I'm not the only one experiencing the problems with Nvidia cards. There is an entire thread dedicated to issues about these for 2k17. That's why I was asking Dommy.

I am not saying its EVERY Nvidia card, I'm saying all I've seen is complaints from NVIDIA users, and I have my own bad experience with it.

[maumau78]

Gigabyte NVIDIA GTX 970 G1 Gaming Edition Scheda grafica, HDMI, DVI, 4GB GDDR5, PCI-E 3.0
Zotac GeForce GTX 970 Scheda grafica, 4GB (3.5GB+0.5GB) , DDR5, 256 Bit
MSI GTX 970 4GD5T OC - Scheda grafica NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 4GB

or

Asus Dual GTX 1060 3GB GDDR5

Are those a good solution and NBA 2K friendly?

[Dee4Three]

Gigabyte NVIDIA GTX 970 G1 Gaming Edition Scheda grafica, HDMI, DVI, 4GB GDDR5, PCI-E 3.0
Zotac GeForce GTX 970 Scheda grafica, 4GB (3.5GB+0.5GB) , DDR5, 256 Bit
MSI GTX 970 4GD5T OC - Scheda grafica NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 4GB

or

Asus Dual GTX 1060 3GB GDDR5

Are those a good solution and NBA 2K friendly?

Again, if it were me (Because I play NBA 2K 95% of the time every year), I would get an AMD Card like the R9 290x or R9 390x....

Just my preference. It seems like you have your heart set on NVIDIA. This is the topic I was referring to.

viewtopic.php?f=224&t=102193

[maumau78]

Gigabyte NVIDIA GTX 970 G1 Gaming Edition Scheda grafica, HDMI, DVI, 4GB GDDR5, PCI-E 3.0
Zotac GeForce GTX 970 Scheda grafica, 4GB (3.5GB+0.5GB) , DDR5, 256 Bit
MSI GTX 970 4GD5T OC - Scheda grafica NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 4GB

or

Asus Dual GTX 1060 3GB GDDR5

Are those a good solution and NBA 2K friendly?

Again, if it were me (Because I play NBA 2K 95% of the time every year), I would get an AMD Card like the R9 290x or R9 390x....

Just my preference. It seems like you have your heart set on NVIDIA. This is the topic I was referring to.

viewtopic.php?f=224&t=102193

yep I like nVidia a lot....i respect ATI too....

[Dee4Three]

Gigabyte NVIDIA GTX 970 G1 Gaming Edition Scheda grafica, HDMI, DVI, 4GB GDDR5, PCI-E 3.0
Zotac GeForce GTX 970 Scheda grafica, 4GB (3.5GB+0.5GB) , DDR5, 256 Bit
MSI GTX 970 4GD5T OC - Scheda grafica NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 4GB

or

Asus Dual GTX 1060 3GB GDDR5

Are those a good solution and NBA 2K friendly?

Again, if it were me (Because I play NBA 2K 95% of the time every year), I would get an AMD Card like the R9 290x or R9 390x....

Just my preference. It seems like you have your heart set on NVIDIA. This is the topic I was referring to.

viewtopic.php?f=224&t=102193

yep I like nVidia a lot....i respect ATI too....

Understood. Well, good luck. I just know I wouldn't take a chance on NVIDIA right now if 2K was my primary game.

[jwin]

i'm running 2k17 with an amd r9 290 not the 290x on a budget am3+ system and it runs perfectly on high settings. i haven't had any stuttering or performance issues at all so the r9 290x should run the game flawlessley as well. i'd recommend it as well, but just know it's a big son of a gun and will eat up space in your case

[maumau78]

i'm running 2k17 with an amd r9 290 not the 290x on a budget am3+ system and it runs perfectly on high settings. i haven't had any stuttering or performance issues at all so the r9 290x should run the game flawlessley as well. i'd recommend it as well, but just know it's a big son of a gun and will eat up space in your case

I will buy the PC first (from the local shop) and go with integrated Video first then I will buy a GPU from Amazon after some research...

[jwin]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductLi ... isNodeId=1

check here too

[maumau78]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=r9+290&ignorear=0&N=-1&isNodeId=1

check here too

Just a question...does ATI/AMD have frame rate limiter on control panel?

[Dee4Three]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=r9+290&ignorear=0&N=-1&isNodeId=1

check here too

Just a question...does ATI/AMD have frame rate limiter on control panel?

Yup

[jwin]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=r9+290&ignorear=0&N=-1&isNodeId=1

check here too

Just a question...does ATI/AMD have frame rate limiter on control panel?

Yup

yeah it's called frame rate target control

[maumau78]

amd r9 290 is on the same market share as GTX 970???

[Dee4Three]

amd r9 290 is on the same market share as GTX 970???

It seems the R9 290 is RATED slightly worse, but GPUBOSS isn't very accurate I've notice.

Again, the R9 280x is rated the same as the GTX 960, but the R9 280x Runs the game (with basically the same processor and RAM) much much better.

[jwin]

amd r9 290 is on the same market share as GTX 970???

you could take a peek through this

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id- ... -290x.html

[maumau78]

Thx all I will buy one of those 2

[SF501]

Newer platform will save you electric bills.
i5 6600K , 16 gb RAM(future proof, higher frequency helps on fps) and GTX 1070 are the way to go. Even i5 6600K stock speed tops out at almost 100% on load now on some games.

They will save you a lot of money in the long run.

AMD are too hot and have an anti-aliasing issues, vsync not working.

GTX 1000 series runs cooler and lower power consumption.

[vb9]

I see no PSU and Case there. I assume you are gonna use your old?
Also i would go for i5 4460 and just 8gb ram, then you might be able to get a gtx 1060 maybe.
You will not lose much performance from CPU switch, but GTX 1060 would gain you alot more performance.
Also I don't think you need 16gb ram if you are planning to just play NBA 2K

EDIT: Also for OS at this time you should go for Win10 for sure. There are some sites where you can buy legit licence for 10-20 $

[maumau78]

UPDATE: 10/10/2016

My local shop has closed doors which is...just sad ....I had a lot of memories running around this shop....
..so I had to go with online @ Amazon which for sure offer me a lot of options. Problem is....availability! Expecially CPU availability is really really low...SSD disk too....

So with this is mind I went for this:

- Cooler Master Silencio 452 Case
- Cooler Master RS500-ACABB1-EU Power Supply 500W ATX B2 Series 12V, 230V
- Intel® Core™ i5-6600 Processor 3.30 Ghz(6M Cache, up to 3.90 GHz)
- ARCTIC MX-4 (4g)
- Asus H170-PRO Intel Main Board 1151, DDR4, Black
- TP-LINK TL-WN823N USB Wireless N 300Mbps
- Kingston HyperX Fury Memeory Kit RAM DDR4 - 16GB, 2x8GB, Black
- Crucial MX200 SSD Internal 250 GB, 2.5" SATA 7 mm (con adattatore 9,5 mm)
- WD WDBUZG0010BBK-EESN Elements Hard Disk External Portable, USB 3.0, 1 TB

OS: I have WIndows 7 Pro OEM Kit License...I will go for it by now...

Total Price 677€ = 754 USD

Still for now I will use integrated Intel® HD Graphics 530 just to run the game and get back into MOD....idea is to go with a MSI GTX 970 - 4GDDR5...we'll see

Thanks everybody for past - current - future advices...

p.s.
on 12/10/2016 i will receive all the items....not listed but I already have:

- Microsoft KB / Mouse combo
- DELL 24' 16:10 screen
- XBOX 360 Wireless Controller for PC

[Dee4Three]

NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!