Do you enjoy playing NBA 2K games on PC?

[cayd33]

Hello everyone and welcome. This post is about a week late but its something I do think is important and worth your time. So on with it. I know people enjoy playing NBA 2K on PC , NLSC is proof of that. So whats the big idea then? I've seen people, a few here, mostly on reddit, discussing where, how and when to acquire the game. All to often I"ve seen 'cdkey' type sites come up, sites like G2A. This is not good. Sites like these are, at beast, shady. The idea that goes into them is pretty simple and straightforward, so whats the problem then?

Developers often do not get any of the proceeds from games sold on these sites. Often, the keys are obtained using stolen payment information. This leads to charge backs of course, meaning none of the money gets to the creators of the game. This isn't a PC only problem, but it seems to be more prevalent and easier to get away with on our platform. I"d like to direct to an article written by the CEO of TinyBuild Games that discusses this in far more detail than I ever could.

So why don't they just revoke the fraudulent keys? Ubi-Soft did that with Far Cry 4 a while back. Their was a noticeable outcry and in the end they took a reputation hit from their customers, a hit that they could little afford at the time. Of course sometimes they actually do and it seems to vary not only from publisher to publisher but also from title to title.

What does this mean for us? To me its pretty clear that the bread & butter of the sales from 2K is on consoles. I"m not saying they do not make any profit from PC, I'm sure they make enough to continue porting the game to PC, especially with the current generation console architecture being what it is. However that will not be the case if the customer base on PC keeps buying fraudulent keys. We've already experienced being snubbed by 2K on some things such as not getting the 2K14 next gen version, not getting the college dlc this year and of course being excluded from the 2K16 road the finals competition.

The game is expensive, I get it. Its not easy paying full price when you don't have much money. But there are solutions, legitimate 3rd party key sellers are out there. GameDeals is a great to place to start. Keep an eye out for 2K publisher sales in particular. Their also pretty good at announcing when a particular seller has a site wide ##% off sale. My second go to resource for non-retail priced games is CheapShark. Not only can your search for particular games here from an aggregate of retailers but you can also sign up for price alerts and see all time lows (without coupon codes). I know it can be hard, but its worth making sure the developers of the game get their share as well to show support to the publisher and let them know we want them to continue porting to PC.

Whether its this year or next year's purchase, please remember that 2K can and will pull the plug on us if they feel like its not worth it any more. If we're not worth it anymore. I don't mean to preach, and I'm certainly not trying to tell you what to do but I do want you to be educated.


Thank You,

A concerned fan.

[cayd33]

I'm sorry if this is not appropriate for this forum. I know NLSC already has a strong stance against piracy but I"ve seen enough references to these unofficial re-sellers to warrant a message.

[Izzy Snow]

You're speculating and worrying about things you can't control. How do you know how many PC users bought it full price via Steam or other retailers vs sites like CDKeys? I personally did have it preordered at cdkeys but when I didn't get the key on the early tip-off day, I asked for a refund and got it right away. I ended up buying it directly from Steam. Either way, it's clear the PC community is much much smaller than on consoles but I think it's safe to say that 2K is making enough money from other platforms that the PC version is safe. If support for it ends, then oh well. We still have the console versions. As for mods, I'm sure the guys here in NLSC will continue to mod the last 2K for as long as they can. But again, I can't sit here and worry about discontinued support.

[hedop]

Honestly why should anyone pay full price for this game? Is it a new game? No it's the same regurgitation we have had since 2k14. Nothing much changed. A lot of the bugs and issues are still there (invisble players, terrible lag, stuttering, frame rate drops, loading times out of the stone age of PC gaming, extremely bad support, the game is geared towards selling you VC and making playing the game without it a grind, still broken defensive help, no real advancement in terms of the Career Mode or MyGM (at least not worth 50 Bucks) and the threat that 2k can ban you at any time for anything really and do not have to give you there reasons or review your ban, should I go on?). Honestly why not? Why not screw them out of some money. They sure as hell try to milk us dry and treat us like second class citizens on top of it. So I can understand anybody wanting to save as much money as they can on the game.

[Lakerfan79]

I paid full price on steam and have only played 1 game with fans in the stands. Ive reinstalled 3 times then gave up. If they want to remove it from PC that's okay cuz im tired of the lackluster product they release on here compared to consoles. In addition to locking everything behind these VC walls now.

FIFA does PC right and 2k should learn a few things about how to create a truly great sports game for PC.

[fjccommish]

The only proof you provide that those sites sell pirated keys is a third hand account from an unnamed source.

Digital delivery was supposed to make games cheaper for consumers and get games into people's hands faster. That's not the reality. The reality is people can't sell games when the people finish playing them.

[JoeBudden]

Hello everyone and welcome. This post is about a week late but its something I do think is important and worth your time. So on with it. I know people enjoy playing NBA 2K on PC , NLSC is proof of that. So whats the big idea then? I've seen people, a few here, mostly on reddit, discussing where, how and when to acquire the game. All to often I"ve seen 'cdkey' type sites come up, sites like G2A. This is not good. Sites like these are, at beast, shady. The idea that goes into them is pretty simple and straightforward, so whats the problem then?

Developers often do not get any of the proceeds from games sold on these sites. Often, the keys are obtained using stolen payment information. This leads to charge backs of course, meaning none of the money gets to the creators of the game. This isn't a PC only problem, but it seems to be more prevalent and easier to get away with on our platform. I"d like to direct to an article written by the CEO of TinyBuild Games that discusses this in far more detail than I ever could.

So why don't they just revoke the fraudulent keys? Ubi-Soft did that with Far Cry 4 a while back. Their was a noticeable outcry and in the end they took a reputation hit from their customers, a hit that they could little afford at the time. Of course sometimes they actually do and it seems to vary not only from publisher to publisher but also from title to title.

What does this mean for us? To me its pretty clear that the bread & butter of the sales from 2K is on consoles. I"m not saying they do not make any profit from PC, I'm sure they make enough to continue porting the game to PC, especially with the current generation console architecture being what it is. However that will not be the case if the customer base on PC keeps buying fraudulent keys. We've already experienced being snubbed by 2K on some things such as not getting the 2K14 next gen version, not getting the college dlc this year and of course being excluded from the 2K16 road the finals competition.

The game is expensive, I get it. Its not easy paying full price when you don't have much money. But there are solutions, legitimate 3rd party key sellers are out there. GameDeals is a great to place to start. Keep an eye out for 2K publisher sales in particular. Their also pretty good at announcing when a particular seller has a site wide ##% off sale. My second go to resource for non-retail priced games is CheapShark. Not only can your search for particular games here from an aggregate of retailers but you can also sign up for price alerts and see all time lows (without coupon codes). I know it can be hard, but its worth making sure the developers of the game get their share as well to show support to the publisher and let them know we want them to continue porting to PC.

Whether its this year or next year's purchase, please remember that 2K can and will pull the plug on us if they feel like its not worth it any more. If we're not worth it anymore. I don't mean to preach, and I'm certainly not trying to tell you what to do but I do want you to be educated.


Thank You,

A concerned fan.

The nerve of some people.

You act like they do us a favor by porting it to PC.
Believe me that's not the case.
In Fact, that’s some easy money for them. Especially if you add the income from their VC Sales.

Also most of the keys are from third world countries.
Now think about it, why they are so cheap there?
Not because 2K is such a nice company, but rather because their win margin is so high, that it makes sense for them to do so.

And why shouldn’t the intelligent customer for once profit to from a globalized world?
If I get the same product for half the price, then I will do so every time.

[Dee4Three]

Honestly, we get an amazing experience with NBA 2K on PC. I wouldn't say we get snubbed at all. Not only do we have a great game, but we can mod it to make it even better. We have a lot of new features in this years game than last, and it runs even smoother on the PC than the console (And looks better).

Lets stop complaining about the price. The price of NBA 2K17 is probably the equivalent to 3 trips to the movies, so maybe 5-6 hours of entertainment. With 2k17, you can pay the same amount for hundreds (sometimes thousands) of hours of entertainment. You can also share the experience with far more people (Console or PC). I put over 4000 hours into NBA 2K14, I am perfectly satisfied with my purchase, trust me.

For the record, I have NEVER bought VC, and I get all the enjoyment I have ever needed out of these games. We used to spend $60 on games that just had a Season and Exhibition mode.

If you can get the game for cheaper, go for it. But lets not talk like we are getting screwed. Almost all the people on here that complain and complain and complain put hundreds of hours into the game for a reason.

[hedop]

Honestly, we get an amazing experience with NBA 2K on PC. I wouldn't say we get snubbed at all. Not only do we have a great game, but we can mod it to make it even better. We have a lot of new features in this years game than last, and it runs even smoother on the PC than the console (And looks better).

Lets stop complaining about the price. The price of NBA 2K17 is probably the equivalent to 3 trips to the movies, so maybe 5-6 hours of entertainment. With 2k17, you can pay the same amount for hundreds (sometimes thousands) of hours of entertainment. You can also share the experience with far more people (Console or PC). I put over 4000 hours into NBA 2K14, I am perfectly satisfied with my purchase, trust me.

For the record, I have NEVER bought VC, and I get all the enjoyment I have ever needed out of these games. We used to spend $60 on games that just had a Season and Exhibition mode.

If you can get the game for cheaper, go for it. But lets not talk like we are getting screwed. Almost all the people on here that complain and complain and complain put hundreds of hours into the game for a reason.

[Dee4Three]

Honestly, we get an amazing experience with NBA 2K on PC. I wouldn't say we get snubbed at all. Not only do we have a great game, but we can mod it to make it even better. We have a lot of new features in this years game than last, and it runs even smoother on the PC than the console (And looks better).

Lets stop complaining about the price. The price of NBA 2K17 is probably the equivalent to 3 trips to the movies, so maybe 5-6 hours of entertainment. With 2k17, you can pay the same amount for hundreds (sometimes thousands) of hours of entertainment. You can also share the experience with far more people (Console or PC). I put over 4000 hours into NBA 2K14, I am perfectly satisfied with my purchase, trust me.

For the record, I have NEVER bought VC, and I get all the enjoyment I have ever needed out of these games. We used to spend $60 on games that just had a Season and Exhibition mode.

If you can get the game for cheaper, go for it. But lets not talk like we are getting screwed. Almost all the people on here that complain and complain and complain put hundreds of hours into the game for a reason.

Typical response from somebody with no rebuttal. You wouldn't be on here if you didn't get hours upon hours of entertainment from the game that more than covers the price.

[Izzy Snow]

Honestly, we get an amazing experience with NBA 2K on PC. I wouldn't say we get snubbed at all. Not only do we have a great game, but we can mod it to make it even better. We have a lot of new features in this years game than last, and it runs even smoother on the PC than the console (And looks better).

Lets stop complaining about the price. The price of NBA 2K17 is probably the equivalent to 3 trips to the movies, so maybe 5-6 hours of entertainment. With 2k17, you can pay the same amount for hundreds (sometimes thousands) of hours of entertainment. You can also share the experience with far more people (Console or PC). I put over 4000 hours into NBA 2K14, I am perfectly satisfied with my purchase, trust me.

For the record, I have NEVER bought VC, and I get all the enjoyment I have ever needed out of these games. We used to spend $60 on games that just had a Season and Exhibition mode.

If you can get the game for cheaper, go for it. But lets not talk like we are getting screwed. Almost all the people on here that complain and complain and complain put hundreds of hours into the game for a reason.

EXACTLY! I always use the trip to a movie comparison when it comes to games. I got the game for $60 and have only been playing exhibition games since launch and I already have like 7 hours into it. Once I start MyLeague it's all over. I don't know if people just have crappy old pc's but I'm for sure getting a phenomenal experience on my PC that has a 1080 and my laptop that has a 1060. I hope 2K continues to release on PC especially for an offline sports gamer like me.

[hedop]

Honestly, we get an amazing experience with NBA 2K on PC. I wouldn't say we get snubbed at all. Not only do we have a great game, but we can mod it to make it even better. We have a lot of new features in this years game than last, and it runs even smoother on the PC than the console (And looks better).

Lets stop complaining about the price. The price of NBA 2K17 is probably the equivalent to 3 trips to the movies, so maybe 5-6 hours of entertainment. With 2k17, you can pay the same amount for hundreds (sometimes thousands) of hours of entertainment. You can also share the experience with far more people (Console or PC). I put over 4000 hours into NBA 2K14, I am perfectly satisfied with my purchase, trust me.

For the record, I have NEVER bought VC, and I get all the enjoyment I have ever needed out of these games. We used to spend $60 on games that just had a Season and Exhibition mode.

If you can get the game for cheaper, go for it. But lets not talk like we are getting screwed. Almost all the people on here that complain and complain and complain put hundreds of hours into the game for a reason.

EXACTLY! I always use the trip to a movie comparison when it comes to games. I got the game for $60 and have only been playing exhibition games since launch and I already have like 7 hours into it. Once I start MyLeague it's all over. I don't know if people just have crappy old pc's but I'm for sure getting a phenomenal experience on my PC that has a 1080 and my laptop that has a 1060. I hope 2K continues to release on PC especially for an offline sports gamer like me.