There is NO GOD

[Brave Sir Rubin]

Agree? Disagree?

Why?

I don't really care about your philosophical views, to be perfectly honest, and would rather watch non-stop footage of Ben Wallace taking jumpshots than argue with you...

But I'm simply curious to see the percentage of people that believe in all that stuff here.

[shadowgrin]

If Satan is Kobe Bryant, then yes, Satan it is.

[puttincomputers]

In order for you to say that there is no God and be intellectually honest you must have been in all places at all times and seen no proof of God! oh wait if you were in all places at all times that would mean that YOU were a god. Whereas my family has seen angels in our small part the world and thus know there is A GOD!

wow i just looked at the results so far and its 3-1 in favour of GOD! wow!

[shadowgrin]

If Dwight believes there is a god, so there is a god.

[Its_asdf]

There is no God. The Raptors have been stuck in mediocrity for 80 billion years. I have lost my faith.

[Brave Sir Rubin]

Dwight did thank God right after winning the East.

Whatever happened to the separation of church and ball?

In order for you to say that there is no God and be intellectually honest you must have been in all places at all times and seen no proof of God! oh wait if you were in all places at all times that would mean that YOU were a god. Whereas my family has seen angels in our small part the world and thus know there is A GOD!

wow i just looked at the results so far and its 3-1 in favour of GOD! wow!

A friend of mine took DMT once and said that he saw angels.

Turned the poor guy into an agnostic.

I've been making fun of him ever since.

[Andrew]

In order for you to say that there is no God and be intellectually honest you must have been in all places at all times and seen no proof of God!

Shouldn't that work both ways?

[benji]

Who cares?

If he exists and wants us to know, he'd make it plain.

Otherwise, judge people by their actions and ideas, not by who they make them in the name of.

But, yes, there is a human god. But he's stuck on the Grizzlies. He's the only one the cats accepted into their godhood.

[NovU]

Dwight did thank God right after winning the East.

Whatever happened to the separation of church and ball?

In order for you to say that there is no God and be intellectually honest you must have been in all places at all times and seen no proof of God! oh wait if you were in all places at all times that would mean that YOU were a god. Whereas my family has seen angels in our small part the world and thus know there is A GOD!

wow i just looked at the results so far and its 3-1 in favour of GOD! wow!

A friend of mine took DMT once and said that he saw angels.

Turned the poor guy into an agnostic.

I've been making fun of him ever since.

For me it's more of whatever happened to the separation of church and politics

Anyone can have a religion they wish to have, I respect that. In sports, I wouldn't mind since we know it only represents an individual, but when it comes to politics, yes I would. I hated when Bush said "god is with us" stuff. Even though myself is a christian, I find it disrepctful, since he was using religion in order for him to do whatever he wanted to do. More importantly, he acted like his religion and his faith represented america. It shouldn't happen especially in politics. I thinkk any sane christian should realize that.

And yes, I do believe in existence of god even though my faith is always being challenged.

[Modifly]

I dont really know whether God exist or not, but I think the best thing to do would be to live our life happily and make the most out of it. In a good way of course.

[Brave Sir Rubin]

Dwight did thank God right after winning the East.

Whatever happened to the separation of church and ball?

In order for you to say that there is no God and be intellectually honest you must have been in all places at all times and seen no proof of God! oh wait if you were in all places at all times that would mean that YOU were a god. Whereas my family has seen angels in our small part the world and thus know there is A GOD!

wow i just looked at the results so far and its 3-1 in favour of GOD! wow!

A friend of mine took DMT once and said that he saw angels.

Turned the poor guy into an agnostic.

I've been making fun of him ever since.

For me it's more of whatever happened to the separation of church and politics

Anyone can have a religion they wish to have, I respect that. In sports, I wouldn't mind since we know it only represents an individual, but when it comes to politics, yes I would. I hated when Bush said "god is with us" stuff. Even though myself is a christian, I find it disrepctful, since he was using religion in order for him to do whatever he wanted to do. More importantly, he acted like his religion and his faith represented america. It shouldn't happen especially in politics. I thinkk any sane christian should realize that.

And yes, I do believe in existence of god even though my faith is always being challenged.

Church and State will never be separated as long as most of the country is religious. The politicians that are chosen are chosen wisely and are a reflection of the country. Bush did not get all of those votes for his qualities as a leader, but for his charisma and connection to the average dumb American.

All in all, you should be aware that all that "god is with us" stuff is propaganda. The President's executive power is highly exaggerated in America. It is not Bush that makes the decisions, he merely represents his party publicly. The problem is that the public is full of morons.

[el badman]

Whereas my family has seen angels in our small part the world and thus know there is A GOD!

Well, debate closed then, good enough for me.

puttincomputers wrote:
In order for you to say that there is no God and be intellectually honest you must have been in all places at all times and seen no proof of God!


Shouldn't that work both ways?

Exactly.

[NovU]

Church and State will never be separated as long as most of the country is religious.

I guess that's a sad truth which we have to live with. However, it is extremely wrong from christian's perspective. It isn't what the religion is about but how it is used in the politics can obviously affect its reputations and moral of people.

As for Bush, he abused "god is with us" propaganda so many times, that christianity actually ended up hurting more. As a president, he holds responsibilities in his deeds and speeches which basically represent for the nation. Indeed, public is full or morons, and also a lot of those pretending reglious people. It's them giving bad names to christianity, I believe.

[puttincomputers]

Church and State will never be separated as long as most of the country is religious.

I guess that's a sad truth which we have to live with. However, it is extremely wrong from christian's perspective. It isn't what the religion is about but how it is used in the politics can obviously affect its reputations and moral of people.

As for Bush, he abused "god is with us" propaganda so many times, that christianity actually ended up hurting more. As a president, he holds responsibilities in his deeds and speeches which basically represent for the nation. Indeed, public is full or morons, and also a lot of those pretending reglious people. It's them giving bad names to christianity, I believe.

agreed! and now we have obama whos pastor claims that "GOD HATES AMERICA!"
God hates nobody! He hates the sin.

[t2r2s]

rodman is the satan

[shadowgrin]

^ That statement is blasphemy! How dare you insult the rebounding god!

[Brave Sir Rubin]

Church and State will never be separated as long as most of the country is religious.

I guess that's a sad truth which we have to live with. However, it is extremely wrong from christian's perspective. It isn't what the religion is about but how it is used in the politics can obviously affect its reputations and moral of people.

As for Bush, he abused "god is with us" propaganda so many times, that christianity actually ended up hurting more. As a president, he holds responsibilities in his deeds and speeches which basically represent for the nation. Indeed, public is full or morons, and also a lot of those pretending reglious people. It's them giving bad names to christianity, I believe.

Don't worry too much about it.

There's next to nothing people can do to give Christianity a worse name than it already has.

The Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, and so many other acts at used Christianity as a cheap justification are already responsible for that.

[cyanide]

My concept of God is that it is non-human, non-intervening, non-rationalizing, and emotionless. It's just a being that is simply there. God is every single molecule that makes up the entire universe. God allowed a foundation of whatever wacky science collided plus evolution plus coincidence to create random logical shapes and forms of organisms, rocks, stars, planets, a source of life and form essentially. It's just there, as a foundation for everything that exists, and since I believe God is non-rationalizing and emotionless, there's no need to "satisfy" or "pray" to it. We're in control of our own life and destiny, and we make do with what we're given. Where God originated from, I'll leave that one as a mindfuck moment.

[puttincomputers]

My concept of God is that it is non-human, non-intervening, non-rationalizing, and emotionless. It's just a being that is simply there. God is every single molecule that makes up the entire universe. God allowed a foundation of whatever wacky science collided plus evolution plus coincidence to create random logical shapes and forms of organisms, rocks, stars, planets, a source of life and form essentially. It's just there, as a foundation for everything that exists, and since I believe God is non-rationalizing and emotionless, there's no need to "satisfy" or "pray" to it. We're in control of our own life and destiny, and we make do with what we're given. Where God originated from, I'll leave that one as a mindfuck moment.

how can nothing randomly appear?

[shadowgrin]

He didn't say there was "nothing" at first, he said "a being that is simply there. God is every single molecule that makes up the entire universe."

[Eich]

God is a scam of churches to get money..
Got is for weak-minded
There is "God" because none can explain what the hell is going on..

I say there is no god and never will.
Btw if there is god, and I'll see one, i promise to kick him in the nuts

[shadowgrin]

What if that god has no nuts?

[jenz]

There is "God" because none can explain what the hell is going on..

i'll have to agree with this. when every theory on how the universe sprouted, some would just say, "oh shit, maybe God really did created it!". ohh, and many, without even considering the scientific facts would blame God for everything that's happening in their lives.

[Jackal]

Hi...

Talking about me?

[Andrew]

I have no problem with or scorn for people who have faith. If that's what gives your life meaning and purpose and brings you comfort, then great. We're all entitled to your beliefs and while I myself am somewhere between being an agnostic and athiest, I would describe myself as being raised with a Christian ethic in that I did receive some religious instruction (or whatever you want to call it) and I do think that some of the core teachings of the Bible - basic concepts such as murder being wrong, being kind to others, treated people how you would like to be treated - are concepts that you can build a successful society upon, whether that's simply to ensure the safety and wellbeing of everyone in that society or you believe that if you don't follow those rules, you'll be condemned to an afterlife of torment in a realm of fire. They're solid and noble principles, no matter what the motivation.

What I don't like are the groups that push their beliefs on others, either through attempts to "recruit" or by using their beliefs to impose their will on people with conflicting beliefs...even if it's simply getting a TV show cancelled. Beyond simply being intolerant, it also strikes me as a corruption of the beliefs they claim to hold. My view is that religion is a deeply personal thing, not a tool to get something you want or an all-purpose trump card that lets you get your own way simply because you're entitled to your beliefs (but apparently no one else is).

Then you've got people like Ann Coulter who claim to have Christian values but dismiss any teachings that promote tolerance or "do unto others" as "incidental tenets of Christianity" and criticise them for being liberal nonsense. I'll be the first to admit I don't know the Bible back to front but from what I have been taught it doesn't exactly work like that. Perhaps I'm simply ill-educated on the matter but it seems to me if you're going to claim an unshakeable faith in the teachings of the Bible - and use it to argue a point or get your own way - you need to follow ALL of its teachings and practise ALL of those beliefs, else you're a hypocrite. Then again, I don't take anyone who proudly admits to being a "mean-spirited, bigoted conservative" very seriously anyway. I'd place Fred Phelps and the Westboro Baptist Church in the same class, though they're even nuttier because they project their "God hates fags" protests on people who weren't even gay, like the late Heath Ledger. Some issues seperating fact and fiction there.

But again, if that's what people feel strongly in and that's what gives them purpose, meaning, happiness and comfort, then it's not my place to deny them that. I do roll my eyes at the hypocrisy of the nuttiest extremists - for all religions, mind you - as I feel they're following a corrupted version of their beliefs. In all fairness, I don't think we can prove the existence of God either way. Athiests will always point to "no proof = proof" and believers will always tout their own experiences. I say live and let live. Everyone should be entitled to their own beliefs without persecution, we all have to walk our own path.