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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Andrew on Thu Oct 06, 2016 11:17 am

Read a rumour today that it might actually be the end for Ziggler, and this is a way to write him off television. That'd be a shame, but hopefully it's a great match, if this is indeed the end.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Lean on Thu Oct 06, 2016 2:01 pm

Yes, and I think that's why this feud is compelling. I have read somewhere that Ziggler have already re-signed before this latest stretch of his feud with Miz. Ric Flair also believes that Ziggler is done. It's really hard to pick which outcome it's going to be.

There are reports that WWE has purchased TNA's name trademark and video library, while Billy Corgan is going to become the new majority owner will probably re-brand TNA into a new company. It's funny because I think Daniel Bryan mentioned twice already on Talking Smack that AJ Styles was a former TNA World Champion.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Andrew on Thu Oct 06, 2016 2:27 pm

Wonder if they'll pick up any contracts, too.

I read that Dixie Carter is telling the talent she won't let the WWE sale happen, and so on and so forth. I don't think she has any credibility left at this point.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Lean on Thu Oct 13, 2016 2:10 am

:lol: at Mauro Ranallo's "their match was hotter than a Samsung Galaxy Note 7" line on Smackdown.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby JaoSming on Thu Oct 13, 2016 2:57 am

That's got nothing on this call from last night - https://youtu.be/vOKkIpdClPg?t=67


Went to No Mercy, great time, nice arena the Kings have there. Crazy to compare AJ now to when I saw him in front of a couple hundred people in Vermont 3 years ago.

They didn't say anything in-arena about the main event going first or Becky's status, so that was a bit weird.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Lean on Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:43 am

When they announced that the triple threat would go first, I really believed that Dolph and Miz would go on last. Shame it really didn't go that way.

JaoSming wrote:That's got nothing on this call from last night - https://youtu.be/vOKkIpdClPg?t=67


FUCKING TOTALLY MISSED THAT! :lol:
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Andrew on Thu Oct 13, 2016 9:57 am

Great reference. :lol:

I thought No Mercy was a pretty solid show. The WWE World Championship match and the Intercontinental Championship match pretty much made the event.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby bigh0rt on Tue Nov 01, 2016 1:36 am

Hell in a Cell a pretty forgettable PPV overall. A bunch of throwaway matches, few, if any, real creative or exciting spots using the cell itself (the Owens powerbomb through the tables was a highlight). First time we've ever had a true Women's Main Event go on as the final match of a PPV? Sasha vs. Charlotte was definitely the best match, although the theatrics at the beginning were a bit much, and not necessary. Sasha would've been just as easy to sympathize with if they dragged her into the cell after the announce table spot and other pre-match fighting. The end of the match seemed abrupt, although I figure it was supposed to end after Sasha went through the propped up table, which she hit twice but didn't break. Unfortunate, but it didn't take too much away from the match itself, which was worked very well by both Charlotte and Sasha.

Really not a ton to look forward to at Survivor Series, really, at this point, either.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby [Q] on Tue Nov 01, 2016 4:04 am

Instead of watching hell in a cell last night I went to see the nxt show in Hollywood. We were 5 rows from the ring which was cool. Only better seat would've been the corner at the end of the aisle. Got to see kota ibushi who I'm guessing was a hideo replacement and Eric young filled in very well for Aries. It was glorious. Oh they also did 2 dusty Rhodes tag matches too
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby [Q] on Thu Nov 10, 2016 4:12 pm

Look ma, I'm on TV!
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Andrew on Wed Nov 16, 2016 8:05 am

Former WWE Wrestler Big Van Vader Says He Has ‘Less Than 2 Years to Live’

Former WWE pro wrestler Big Van Vader announced that he has been given less than two years to live.

Vader, whose real name is Leon White, broke the news to fans on his official Twitter account late Monday night. “Told by 2 heart Drs at this time that my heart is wore out from football & wrestling I have 2 yrs to live , conjestive hesrt [sic] failure reality,” he wrote.


Damn.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Lean on Sun Nov 20, 2016 1:22 pm

#DIY-Revival for the NXT Tag Team Championships might be the match of the weekend. Awesome chemistry by both teams and fantastic sequences.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Lean on Sun Nov 20, 2016 2:01 pm

SAMOA JOE IS NOW A TWO-TIME NXT CHAMPION after a uranage to the steps and a Muscle Buster! Didn't like that Nakamura entrance at all.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby zzcoolj21 on Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:41 pm

BROCK DID THE JOB



"WE HOPE YOU ENJOYED WCW MONDAY NITRO"
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby bigh0rt on Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:49 pm

That was... interesting...
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Lean on Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:50 pm

Mega Match my ass. :lol:

NXT Tag Team Championship match from yesterday's Takeover > Survivor Series.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Andrew on Mon Nov 21, 2016 2:32 pm

5-on-5 Men's RAW vs Smackdown Live match was pretty entertaining in my opinion. It pretty much made the show and the right people were protected and made to look strong. Some inconsistent booking though, DQs and countouts despite supposedly being no DQ and at other times not bothering to count while people were out of the ring. Nitpicking perhaps, especially because it was a really fun match in my view, but you can't help but think of those things.

Rest of the undercard, or at least what I saw, felt like a throwaway. Too many RAW victories, probably.

Brock/Goldberg...where to begin? I'll spoiler tag for those who want to catch the show first, and haven't had an opportunity to do so yet.

I don't actually dislike the fact that Lesnar lost. Frankly, the problem with Lesnar is that he's become too unbeatable, working the same match over and over again. Having him actually look beatable, and take a clean loss, is not a bad thing in and of itself. BUT...

But, that's kind of a lame way to do it, to say the least. When you think about it, it craps on every other worker, from a legend like Undertaker to people they're trying to establish as bona fide main eventers like Dean Ambrose, all of whom put Lesnar over and made him look unstoppable. The guy who broke Taker's streak just got squashed, by a part timer. Apparently Goldberg is going to work a few more matches, but still...what a way to waste the rub from Taker's legacy.

Again, I do think that Lesnar losing and losing clean is something that needed to happen to freshen him up and bring some intrigue back to his matches. But the execution was poor, and it hardly lives up to the billing of an epic dream match. I'm all for giving everything a chance and seeing where things go next, and I think the right man won, but I'm really iffy about the way it was done. Guess it is what it is, now.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Lean on Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:20 pm

Same here. I'm okay with Goldberg going over, but I didn't like how it turned out after all the hype and marketing they did for this match.

I would have preferred the Cruiserweights be on Smackdown instead as it makes sense that the new 205 Live show is also on Tuesdays. And yeah, I think there were too many Raw wins.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby [Q] on Mon Nov 21, 2016 4:45 pm

Holy shit, what a monster concussion suffered by Shane.

Somebody paid a lot of money for what essentially was an expensive advertisement for 2K17. I hope they got all the pre-orders they wanted
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Andrew on Mon Nov 21, 2016 4:48 pm

The game's been out a month, so it's a bit late for pre-orders.

And yeah, that was a hard bump by Shane, and a scary moment. He looked really out of it after that spot, and I don't think he was selling. Bit of a botch there.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby bigh0rt on Tue Nov 22, 2016 1:22 am

I feel like we're in the midst of a several month stretch now where there just hasn't been much worth watching. Really hope as we approach Royal Rumble that things pick up in the stretch to WrestleMania, as is sometimes the case. Right now literally almost everything seems to meh. The storylines, the matches, the characters. It's bland. Pretty much since the brand split, if not before.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Andrew on Tue Nov 22, 2016 9:12 am

I feel like there are some good ideas there, but they're either half-baked, or weird booking decisions have undermined them.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby [Q] on Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:35 pm

Only reason I watch is for the Jericho and Owens segments
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Andrew on Fri Nov 25, 2016 8:19 am

Goldberg's in the Rumble.

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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby [Q] on Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:43 pm

Wow, the women's hardcore match for the title tonight on raw is a must-see!
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Andrew on Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:48 pm

The division has had a really strong year. The frequent title switches aren't ideal, generally speaking, but it also helps create the idea of great competition and intense rivalry with two evenly matched opponents. At least it's not changing every other week. For the story they're trying to tell, I'd give the booking a pass on that. That match quality is a big factor there too, obviously.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Lean on Wed Nov 30, 2016 1:06 pm

I've missed Raw yesterday. I have to watch the Women's Title match.

205 Live starts today, and apart from Graves and Mauro, Austin Aries joins the commentary team. I hope the Cruiserweights get the mainstream fans' appreciation they deserve in this show.

EDIT: It really would have made much sense if the Cruiserweights were on Smackdown with this new show happening just right after Smackdown. So far so good, the crowd has been receptive to them.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Lean on Wed Nov 30, 2016 1:58 pm

RICH SWANN NOW THE CRUISERWEIGHT FUCKING CHAMPION!This may lead to a three-way feud with Bryan Kendrick and TJ Perkins.

The crowd loved the matches. This is better than how they're being booked on Raw.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby zzcoolj21 on Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:13 pm

@Lean 2017 Swann needs to get the push Kofi deserved

We have to protect this champion
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Lean on Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:55 pm

ALL NIGHT LONG!
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby zzcoolj21 on Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:24 pm

So our WWE champion is AJ Styles
our Universal champion is Kevin Owens
our NXT champion is Shinsuke Nakamura
And our Cruiserweight champion is Rich Swann.

2016 man.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Lean on Sun Dec 04, 2016 12:23 am

I bet Samoa Joe is going up soon. And I do hope he ends up on Smackdown.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Andrew on Sun Dec 04, 2016 9:02 am

The booking may leave something to be desired at times, but we've had some new names and excellent works receive pushes this year. It could be worse.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Lean on Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:14 pm

TLC is an okay PPV. Although I got asleep on Corbin and Kalisto's match.

I was expecting Undertaker to return after the main event to challenge Styles for the title. Ellsworth interfering was a bit expected but made sense because he beat Styles three times and he thinks he can beat him again for the title. The Wyatts winning the tag titles was great, although I would prefer Bray to hold a singles title and have Orton and Harper hold the tag titles. Alexa winning was a surprise, but she's been great on the mic and is improving in her ring work. Her interview on Talking Smack had her crying already, and then just went back being heel again. She's so adorable.

Daniel Bryan and Miz's continuous back-and-forth verbal attacks make me think that Bryan would have one more match against Miz. But that's just wishful thinking.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Axel. on Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:17 am

My brother follows WWE like a fanatic (he's 10 years old) so I take him to watch it every time they're in Houston. I haven't kept up with it much recently, but I was pleased with the match quality from the major matches at last night's show.

I really liked the Orton-Wyatt vs. Rhyno-Slater match, and the ending was what the crowd had been chanting the whole match. Orton RKO. Also, I liked the ending of Miz vs. DA match. Ellsworth's seemingly unintentional costing of the match for Ambrosse leaves me curious as to whether we may see a triple threat match between them and AJ Styles for the title in the future.

I stayed for 205 Live, which took me by surprise since I thought the show was over after Smackdown. I was rather underwhelmed by it, but the Kendrick vs. Swann title match more than made up for it. First time I've seen Swann wrestle, but I really like his character and was glad he retained the Cruiserweight title. Only reason I stayed was for the 6-man tag main event they announced before it started, which ended up being worth it. (Y)
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Lean on Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:41 pm

So Undertaker appeared on Raw to announce he's entering the Rumble match in three weeks. During the promo, Strowman was shown backstage looking at the TV watching the Undertaker.

There goes my dream AJ Styles/Undertaker match at WrestleMania. Or a feud with Cena for a match at WrestleMania as well.

Weeks after my most recent post, I still take Smackdown over Raw. It's still the better-written show, and they shake up the matches constantly to keep things fresh. Baron Corbin, for example, will take on Cena tomorrow.

And I don't understand Steph's character. Sometimes she favors faces, but for the most part, she's heel.

EDIT: As for 205 Live, I think the best way to not have the crowd leave is to have it before Smackdown.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Andrew on Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:58 pm

Yeah, Steph's character is about as consistent as JBL's analyst persona. Are they faces? Are they heels? Depends on the moment, really.

I'd much rather see Taker wrap up his career (as I assume this is a farewell tour) against Cena or Styles than Strowman, but that definitely was a heavy hint to drop.
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Postby Lean on Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:50 pm

Me too, give Taker the farewell match he deserves. Not a match with Strowman. If they're going for Cena-Taker, I hope it's for the title. Have him retire as champion, he deserves it.

Jericho won the US title, which makes it more likely for Roman to win the Universal title at the PPV and then main event Wrestlemania AGAIN. :shake:
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Postby [Q] on Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:24 pm

Was never the biggest fan of the Undertaker although I did like some of his moves, and pulling HBK out from wherever to advertise for his movie was a bummer as I don't like the born-again Christian HBK at all. Thought about a lot of these older wrestlers and figured my top 3 favorites are Jericho, Owen Hart, and Mr. Perfect so I was happy to see Y2J win the only title that's eluded him. It's been a while since he's won a title.

The Rumble match will be interesting with a lot of big names. It was pretty lame as once HHH came out at 30 you knew he would win. But this year, there could be a number of possibilities as well as a debuting Kenny Omega?
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Postby Lean on Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:57 pm

Are rumors true that Omega's NJPW contract is up?
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Postby Andrew on Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:34 pm

Still speculation at this point, but he could be WWE-bound.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby [Q] on Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:59 am

Lean wrote:Are rumors true that Omega's NJPW contract is up?

I think he tweeted that he has to think about his future, which sounds like he's about to be a free agent
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Postby Andrew on Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:34 am

It sounds like he might also be trying to play it cool so that a potential WWE debut is a surprise...perhaps in the Rumble, as with AJ Styles last year?
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Postby zzcoolj21 on Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:39 am

I'll take anything he says with a grain of salt. That whole group loves to tease like this.
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Postby [Q] on Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:37 am

Andrew wrote:It sounds like he might also be trying to play it cool so that a potential WWE debut is a surprise...perhaps in the Rumble, as with AJ Styles last year?

I agree a lot of newly signed talent get told to deny it to anyone that asks.
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Postby Lean on Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:59 pm

I've read somewhere that Cena posted a photo of Omega just like how he posted a photo of AJ last year before the Rumble.
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He's posted pictures of Kenny from South Park.
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Postby Andrew on Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:18 am

Dang.

Meanwhile, "Superfly" Jimmy Snuka passed away at age 73. It's been interesting to see the reactions, given the fact they were looking to re-open the murder case involving his ex-girlfriend back in the 80s. Definitely seeing some heated discussions between people defending him and wanting to uphold "never speak ill of the dead", and those who view him as a fallen star and are looking at things from the perspective of his ex-girlfriend's family.
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