The Debate Thread: Same-Sex Marriage

absolutely, they also hate jews which is against christian doctrine.

Also they believe that only certain people can be saved, that is not christian.

When it comes to the Westboro Baptist Church, I think it's easier to create a list of the people they don't hate, or for that matter they believe God doesn't hate.

Puttincomputers - What's your point?

That's only because the laws don't go far enough, if we were allowed to enact the death penalty like a civilized society against people who use drugs and are homosexualist, then we could stamp out this terrorism.

... the fuck?

So you want OUR children to become homosexualist, get AIDS and all sorts of other diseases (beyond the initial disease of homosexuality) while spiraling downwards into drug addiction until they die?

Typical stoner homosexualist. They don't care how many people they murder as long as they can get high and get off with children before murdering them.

All of which enrages the Islamic world and causes them to kill more God-fearing Christian Real Americans like they did on 9/11.

you think people who smoke a plant should get lethal injection???

So you want OUR children to become homosexualist, get AIDS and all sorts of other diseases (beyond the initial disease of homosexuality) while spiraling downwards into drug addiction until they die?

Typical stoner homosexualist. They don't care how many people they murder as long as they can get high and get off with children before murdering them.

All of which enrages the Islamic world and causes them to kill more God-fearing Christian Real Americans like they did on 9/11.

hear hear!

you think people who smoke a plant should get lethal injection???

No, that's exactly what they want, to be able to shoot drugs into their veins. What they should be is shot on site by SWAT when discovered to be possessing such horrific things. (Or also engaging in homosexualist acts.)

We have to protect our children by any means possible, they are our most precious resource. Not even the internet is safe.

I never thought of it that way. Please continue to enlighten me benji, do tell more.

Gundy has been away for so long that he can't detect benji playing the devil's advocate, even after he warned us he'd do it.

they dont even pray for those who are not christians to become christians.

Should they? Is that out of compassion or just for the principle?
Sounds like a waste of time to me.

Amazing, someone stands up to the homosexualist agenda and they're accused of working for the devil. No sir, those working for the devil are those who wish to destroy the core American values of one-man and one-woman, chastity until marriage and life-long sobriety with their Sodom and Gomorrah secret agenda.

This is beyond the pale, I call on the admins to uphold the Christian values of this forum and ban these homosexualist terrorists. These snakes have already withered their way into America's Garden of Eden, we can't allow them to seduce the young children at the NLSC.

well el badman, my troll detector was going off but I chose to ignore it. but from what I remember, I thought benji, was a serious fellow. I guess that was before I'd seen the real horrors of the internet.

Can't refute the facts so call someone a troll or unserious instead. Typical.

Gundy has been away for so long that he can't detect benji playing the devil's advocate, even after he warned us he'd do it.

they dont even pray for those who are not christians to become christians.

Should they? Is that out of compassion or just for the principle?
Sounds like a waste of time to me.

both.

But what if allowing gay marriage allows people to marry more than one person, or marry animals? Or marry plants? Marriage is an institution that says a man and a woman, this is the best and only system for raising a child, thus why it is perfect.

Homosexuality is an obvious disorder and leads to pedophilia if allowed. Indeed if you offered a child to a homosexual they would take it, this has been proven in studies. There is also miles of common law that establishes marriage as a man and woman. Not only that, but gays do not even want to marry, they don't even do so in countries that allow it. Instead they are deviants that wish to foist their homosexualist agenda upon everyone against their will.

If homosexuality was right, they'd be able to reproduce, but they can't. Case closed.

This might be one of the most ignorant things I have ever seen...Marriage was not created by nature it is a product of the human society. Marriage has as much sacredness or meaning as one individual wants to give it... Noone has any right to claim copyrights to the meaning of marriage...Homosexuality has been observed in nature and it is scientifically proven to exist within animals. So there goes the nature thing out the window. Just because you cannot relate to how someone feels doesnt make them wrong.

And give me solid research/evidence from an unbiased scientific source to the sentence I highlighted..

Oh and I guess benji is playing devils advocate so dont take my response personal but do respond accordingly

Sadly, it seems to be that way these days. It used to be a lifelong commitment to one relationship which gave marriage its name.

Why can't someone be in a life-long relationship without being married? Why do people even need to stay in life-long relationships?

I guess promiscuity is ok as long as it's mutual, and that nobody gets hurt or gets called derogatory well-deserved names like "whore."

Well-deserved?

as I once heard..so you have someone as a witness to your life....which summed it up for me in so many ways...

This might be one of the most ignorant things I have ever seen...Marriage was not created by nature it is a product of the human society.

It was created by God, who defined it as one-man and one-woman to create a family to raise as God outlines for the benefit of the society and world God created for us. "The concept of marriage as the union of a man and a woman for the explicit reason of having and raising children is the cornerstone of western Judeo-Christian based civilization. To toy with it is to toy with the very foundations of society itself."

Homosexuality has been observed in nature and it is scientifically proven to exist within animals.

We are not animals. We are created in God's image, and God is heterosexual.

Just because you cannot relate to how someone feels doesnt make them wrong.

So Jeffrey Dahmer should have been allowed to do what he did? Ted Bundy? Gary Ridgway? John Wayne Gacy?

And give me solid research/evidence from an unbiased scientific source to the sentence I highlighted..

It has been proven many times as I quoted earlier in this thread. You offer a homosexualist a child, they will take it, ply with drugs and rape it. (Probably to death.)

There are countless examples of this. I named a few above.

Oh and I guess benji is playing devils advocate so dont take my response personal but do respond accordingly

Again with the accusation of being an agent of Satan simply because I dare to stand up to the homosexualist agenda destroying this once great country.

"Of this much I assure you: until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter of the law, not the smallest part of a letter, shall be done away with until it all comes true. That is why whoever breaks the least significant of these commands and teaches others to do so shall be called least in the kingdom of God. Whoever fulfills and teaches these commands shall be called great in the kingdom of God." (Matthew 5:17-19)

Sadly, it seems to be that way these days. It used to be a lifelong commitment to one relationship which gave marriage its name.

Why can't someone be in a life-long relationship without being married? Why do people even need to stay in life-long relationships?

as I once heard..so you have someone as a witness to your life....which summed it up for me in so many ways...

That's kinda sad, so marriage is about being an attention whore?

But what if allowing gay marriage allows people to marry more than one person, or marry animals? Or marry plants? Marriage is an institution that says a man and a woman, this is the best and only system for raising a child, thus why it is perfect.

Homosexuality is an obvious disorder and leads to pedophilia if allowed. Indeed if you offered a child to a homosexual they would take it, this has been proven in studies. There is also miles of common law that establishes marriage as a man and woman. Not only that, but gays do not even want to marry, they don't even do so in countries that allow it. Instead they are deviants that wish to foist their homosexualist agenda upon everyone against their will.

If homosexuality was right, they'd be able to reproduce, but they can't. Case closed.

This might be one of the most ignorant things I have ever seen...Marriage was not created by nature it is a product of the human society. Marriage has as much sacredness or meaning as one individual wants to give it... Noone has any right to claim copyrights to the meaning of marriage...Homosexuality has been observed in nature and it is scientifically proven to exist within animals. So there goes the nature thing out the window. Just because you cannot relate to how someone feels doesnt make them wrong.

And give me solid research/evidence from an unbiased scientific source to the sentence I highlighted..

Oh and I guess benji is playing devils advocate so dont take my response personal but do respond accordingly

wait!! So we are not part of nature? thats news to me!

No we are not. Nature has been fine even before humans existed.

Sadly, it seems to be that way these days. It used to be a lifelong commitment to one relationship which gave marriage its name.

Why can't someone be in a life-long relationship without being married? Why do people even need to stay in life-long relationships?

as I once heard..so you have someone as a witness to your life....which summed it up for me in so many ways...

That's kinda sad, so marriage is about being an attention whore?

Is that supposed to be a serious argument? because you stretched it out to an extreme there. It means you have someone who knows you inside and out and how you have gone about your life. When im 75 years old I would much rather want a wife next to me rather than "friends" who are going to visit me, make empty jokes and chit chat and then leave me alone. There is nothing wrong with wanting to have another human being really close to you throughout your life in more than a friend manner.

But it all comes down to choice. Just because you get bored of relationships doesn't mean other people don't value them as much.

But what if allowing gay marriage allows people to marry more than one person, or marry animals? Or marry plants? Marriage is an institution that says a man and a woman, this is the best and only system for raising a child, thus why it is perfect.

Homosexuality is an obvious disorder and leads to pedophilia if allowed. Indeed if you offered a child to a homosexual they would take it, this has been proven in studies. There is also miles of common law that establishes marriage as a man and woman. Not only that, but gays do not even want to marry, they don't even do so in countries that allow it. Instead they are deviants that wish to foist their homosexualist agenda upon everyone against their will.

If homosexuality was right, they'd be able to reproduce, but they can't. Case closed.

This might be one of the most ignorant things I have ever seen...Marriage was not created by nature it is a product of the human society. Marriage has as much sacredness or meaning as one individual wants to give it... Noone has any right to claim copyrights to the meaning of marriage...Homosexuality has been observed in nature and it is scientifically proven to exist within animals. So there goes the nature thing out the window. Just because you cannot relate to how someone feels doesnt make them wrong.

And give me solid research/evidence from an unbiased scientific source to the sentence I highlighted..

Oh and I guess benji is playing devils advocate so dont take my response personal but do respond accordingly

wait!! So we are not part of nature? thats news to me!

Highlight the parts which shows we are not a part of nature because im fucking confused

Sadly, it seems to be that way these days. It used to be a lifelong commitment to one relationship which gave marriage its name.

Why can't someone be in a life-long relationship without being married? Why do people even need to stay in life-long relationships?

as I once heard..so you have someone as a witness to your life....which summed it up for me in so many ways...

That's kinda sad, so marriage is about being an attention whore?

Is that supposed to be a serious argument? because you stretched it out to an extreme there. It means you have someone who knows you inside and out and how you have gone about your life. When im 75 years old I would much rather want a wife next to me rather than "friends" who are going to visit me, make empty jokes and chit chat and then leave me alone. There is nothing wrong with wanting to have another human being really close to you throughout your life in more than a friend manner.

But it all comes down to choice. Just because you get bored of relationships doesn't mean other people don't value them as much.

But why do you need rings and a piece of paper to have that?

Sadly, it seems to be that way these days. It used to be a lifelong commitment to one relationship which gave marriage its name.

Why can't someone be in a life-long relationship without being married? Why do people even need to stay in life-long relationships?

as I once heard..so you have someone as a witness to your life....which summed it up for me in so many ways...

That's kinda sad, so marriage is about being an attention whore?

Is that supposed to be a serious argument? because you stretched it out to an extreme there. It means you have someone who knows you inside and out and how you have gone about your life. When im 75 years old I would much rather want a wife next to me rather than "friends" who are going to visit me, make empty jokes and chit chat and then leave me alone. There is nothing wrong with wanting to have another human being really close to you throughout your life in more than a friend manner.

But it all comes down to choice. Just because you get bored of relationships doesn't mean other people don't value them as much.

But why do you need rings and a piece of paper to have that?

A ring simply because it is symbolic, we don't really need it...kinda like if we didnt have a national flag we would still be a country.. And a paper because in our society we need proof of the relationship for taxes, insurance etc

The fact is homosexuality is a disease, and we need to cure it. If homosexuality was natural it would result in children, it doesn't, so it is not something that should be allowed.

Marriage means something, we the people should not be trying to take it down for some perverts.