There is NO GOD

[puttincomputers]

btw in my view atheism is a religion

[Brave Sir Rubin]

Calling atheism a religion is stupid.

There is no structure to atheism, unless some group of dumbfucks decide to structure it.

Religion is loosely defined as "an organized approach to human spirituality which usually encompasses a set of
narratives, symbols, beliefs, and practices, often with a supernatural or transcendent quality, that give meaning to the practitioner's experiences of life through reference to a higher power or truth." by Wiki.

Atheism lacks ALL of those components.

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[puttincomputers]

Calling atheism a religion is stupid.

There is no structure to atheism, unless some group of dumbfucks decide to structure it.

Religion is loosely defined as "an organized approach to human spirituality which usually encompasses a set of
narratives, symbols, beliefs, and practices, often with a supernatural or transcendent quality, that give meaning to the practitioner's experiences of life through reference to a higher power or truth." by Wiki.

Atheism lacks ALL of those components.

I disagree.

Atheism is a religion.
1. it is a BELIEF that there is no God
2. Atheists conduct their lives as if there is no God while proclaiming there is no God thus when they are not struck down the act on their FAITH that there is no God and and begin to proclaim their belief even louder.
3. Atheism attempts to have no spirituality and in their rituals to proclaim it to be so they in fact create their own spirituality
4. Atheist have many symbols when it comes to saying there is no God.

[shadowgrin]

What you listed applies to pseudo-atheists or transitioning atheists.
Real atheists don't give a rat's ass about the whole god or no god thing that's why you never see a lot of them.

[Brave Sir Rubin]

What you listed applies to pseudo-atheists or transitioning atheists.
Real atheists don't give a rat's ass about the whole god or no god thing that's why you never see a lot of them.

Yes, that...

My guess is that puttincomputers is still in high school and has to deal with lots of militant 16 year old atheists.

My atheism is pretty much a big joke more than anything... don't get me wrong, I love to burn inverted crosses and bibles, but it's only for the lulz.

[jenz]

I disagree.

Atheism is a religion.
1. it is a BELIEF that there is no God
2. Atheists conduct their lives as if there is no God while proclaiming there is no God thus when they are not struck down the act on their FAITH that there is no God and and begin to proclaim their belief even louder.
3. Atheism attempts to have no spirituality and in their rituals to proclaim it to be so they in fact create their own spirituality
4. Atheist have many symbols when it comes to saying there is no God.

what the hell? i don't see your point. so, let's do this the easy way, if you don't believe kobe's fucking good, then, you're a member of kobe-haters' club?

[el badman]

Atheism is a religion.
1. it is a BELIEF that there is no God
2. Atheists conduct their lives as if there is no God while proclaiming there is no God thus when they are not struck down the act on their FAITH that there is no God and and begin to proclaim their belief even louder.
3. Atheism attempts to have no spirituality and in their rituals to proclaim it to be so they in fact create their own spirituality
4. Atheist have many symbols when it comes to saying there is no God.

That makes no sense whatsoever.
Because you BELIEVE in something, that makes it a religion?
Because some people use the fish symbol and add little feet and "DARWIN" in it just for kicks, that makes them somehow religious?
When you're born, it's not like you believe in God by default, you get brainwashed little by little until you don't even want to question anything that you've been told. The very fact that there is a word to describe people who don't believe in God is absurd.

Real atheists don't give a rat's ass about the whole god or no god thing that's why you never see a lot of them.

Exactly. Religious people would probably like to think that atheists live with this inner struggle to "resist" God, but it could not be further from the truth. Once you've realized it's all a hoax, your mind is clear and you don't give a fuck who prays to which divinity.

[osem111412]

I think the very reason many people don't believe in God or others believe but not totally recognized him is because right now they are in good health or lots of money they can buy anything they want thinking money would satisfy.

Buy you see when people got sick or have some problems or trials that their parents can't help them, their friends can't help, the doctors can't help or even their money can't help. I'm sure they will start seeking God.

Friends just encourage you all "Find the Lord before you need Him"

[osem111412]

Religion is a covering. Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden, when they found out they were naked, they made themselves a religion. Find out, just as soon as Adam found out he was--he was separated from God, in the stead of trying to find God, he tried to hide from God. That's the nature of man today. It's still his nature. Instead of coming down confessing saying, "I've been a church member for ten years. I know nothing about God," and try to hide behind the name of a church. Now, I want you to notice. Instead of coming out, and it ought to have been Adam running through the garden, hollering, "Father, Father, where are You? Father, Father."
It was the Father running through the garden, hollering, "Adam, Adam, where art thou?" When he found out he had to meet God, he made him a apron out of fig leaves. How typical of today. A apron was a covering. "Religion" means, "a covering." And he made his apron out of fig leaves. He placed it around him, and it was all right as long as Eve and Adam was standing back in the little church back there talking about, "Well now, when God calls again, we'll go out." But when they had to face God, they found out fig leaf religion wouldn't work. And every man and woman that's hiding behind some church creed will find out in the day of their death, fig leaf religion won't work.

[NovU]

Speaking of christian, you won't find too many real "christian" in priests, minister, or out spoken followers. In fact, I'd call most of them pretenders. It's rare but most of true christians rather sits quitely in the corner in Sunday morning, and they are just there to serve the god, not for anything nor for any other purposes. If you think all people in church are christians because they're there at the church, you're wrong. In fact, most of them are there for their own benefits, either looking to build a social realtionship, make money, to learn or seeking help spiritually. People can give you advices but god won't reach you unless you try hard yourself. They won't find and can't find you god. So next time, you go to church, don't mind people, but try to learn more about god, not study other people so called christians. I'm saying because a lot of people make such mistakes and try to learn from people, not god.

One more thing, lots of people claim it can't be proven scientifically, but you will be amazed how many scietists have faith in religion such as christianity. Ironic, right?

[osem111412]

That's correct many people go to church for some reason not for serving God, but we can't judge because there are few that really sincere.

Read this article:

For all you scientists out there and for all the students who have had a hard time convincing these people regarding the truth of the Bible – here’s something that illustrates God’s awesome creation and shows He is still in control.

Did you know that NASA’s space programmes are busy proving that was has been called ‘myth’ in the Bible is true? Mr. Harold Hill, President of the Curtis engine Company in Baltimore, and a consultant in the space programmes, relates the following incident: “One of the most amazing things that God has for us today happened recently to our astronauts and space scientists at Green Belt, Maryland. They were checking out the positions of the sun, moon and planets out in space where they would be 100, and 1000 years from now. We have to know this as we do not want a satellite to collide with any of these in its orbits. We have to lay out the orbits in terms of the life of the satellite and where the planets will be so the whole project will not
bog down. Computer measurements and data were run back and forth over the centuries when suddenly it came to a halt, displaying a red signal, which meant that either there was something wrong with the information fed into it, or with the results as compared to the standards. They called in the service department to check it out, and the technicians asked what was wrong. The scientists had discovered that somewhere in space in elapsed time a day was missing. Nobody seemed able to come up with a solution to the problem.

Finally one of the team, a Christian, said: “You know, when I was still
in Sunday School, they spoke about the sun standing still…” While his colleagues didn’t believe him, they did not have an answer either, so they said: “Show us.” He got a Bible and opened it at the book of Joshua where they found a pretty ridiculous statement for any one with ‘common sense’. There they read about the Lord saying to Joshua: “Fear them not, I have delivered them into thy hand; there shall not be a man of them stand before thee.” (Joshua 10:8).

Joshua was concerned because the enemy had surrounded him, and if darkness fell, they would overpower him. So Joshua asked the Lord to make the sun stand still! That’s right – “And the sun stood still and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is this not written in the book of Ja’-sher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven and hastened not to go down about a whole
day.” (Joshua 10:13).

The astronauts and scientists said: ” There is the missing day!” They checked the computers going back into the time it was written and found it, but it was not close enough. The elapsed time that was missing back in Joshua’s day was 23 hours and 20 minutes – not a whole day. They read the Bible again and there it was: “about (approximately) a day.” These little words in the Bible were important, but they were still in

trouble, because another 40 minutes were still unaccounted for, and this could mean trouble 1000 years from now. Forty minutes had to be found because it can be multiplied many times over in orbits. As the Christian employee thought about it, he remembered somewhere in the Bible which said the sun went backwards. The scientists told him he was out of his mind, but once again they opened the Book and read these words in 2 Kings.

Hezekiah, on his deathbed, was visited by the prophet, Isaiah, who told him he was not going to die. Hezekiah asked for some sign as proof. Isaiah said: “Shall the sun go forward ten degrees, or go back ten degrees?” And Hezekiah answered: “It is a light thing for the shadow to go down ten degrees; nay, but let the shadow return backwards ten degrees.” And Isaiah the prophet cried unto the Lord, and He brought the shadow ten degrees backward, by which it had gone down in the dial of Ahaz.” (2
Kings 20:9 -11). Ten degrees is exactly 40 minutes! Twenty-three hours and twenty minutes in Joshua, plus 40 minutes in 2 Kings accounted for the missing day in the universe! Isn’t this amazing? Our God is rubbing their noses in His Truth!

[Andrew]

I do roll my eyes at the hypocrisy of the nuttiest extremists - for all religions, mind you - as I feel they're following a corrupted version of their beliefs.

Interestingly, it seems to apply to Christianity and Islam more often than not. I don't think I've ever heard that kind of stuff with Buddhists or Taoists... then again, they don't exactly believe in an omnipotent narcissistic male-god with an impossibly strict reward-punishment system staged for their afterlife. If Islam and Christianity didn't exist, I really think this world would be better off and with less nutjobs.

Quite true, you don't really hear of any Buddhists suicide-bombing or campaigning to have television shows pulled and justifying it all with their religion.

[shadowgrin]

But they are insane to do this:

He wasted gas and increased his carbon foot print! That's wrong!

[Andrew]

I'd forgotten about that. Those were fairly extraordinary circumstances though and it's not as though he was trying to get Jack Benny off the air, nor harm a lot of people. But as I said, I don't consider the groups who use their religion in that way to be true followers of what they claim to believe in no matter what their faith.

[Angelo]

Did the guy in that pic died?

[Andrew]

Oh, most certainly. For the record, searching for "burning monk" at Wikipedia redirects to his entry (Thích Quảng Đức).

[jenz]

Did the guy in that pic died?

i'll be damned if he didn't.
edit: but still, burning yourself and managing to sit there like that is awesome.

[puttincomputers]

Christ tells his followers that we are to be considered fools because of him. Peter didnt sit quietly in a corner. In fact We are to proclaim Christ from the housetops. Then we should welcome persecution that will come.When persecution does come we are to rejoice and not fight back.

[Joe the Space Marine]

religion or whatever you want to call it, is all about attention.

[Brave Sir Rubin]

Christ tells his followers that we are to be considered fools because of him. Peter didnt sit quietly in a corner. In fact We are to proclaim Christ from the housetops. Then we should welcome persecution that will come.When persecution does come we are to rejoice and not fight back.

Good job ignoring all of the comments addressed at you above.

I really hope that you rejoice in persecution though. Ain't nothing better than watching a bunch of black dudes rape your asshole in the name of Jesus.

[shadowgrin]

Now that's racist, Rubin.

[Brave Sir Rubin]

In the sense of...

"Are you claiming that Filipinos couldn't rape said asshole as well as black people because of their anatomical disadvantage?"

If so, then yes.

[shadowgrin]

I will back off slowly now.

[NovU]

I do roll my eyes at the hypocrisy of the nuttiest extremists - for all religions, mind you - as I feel they're following a corrupted version of their beliefs.

Interestingly, it seems to apply to Christianity and Islam more often than not. I don't think I've ever heard that kind of stuff with Buddhists or Taoists... then again, they don't exactly believe in an omnipotent narcissistic male-god with an impossibly strict reward-punishment system staged for their afterlife. If Islam and Christianity didn't exist, I really think this world would be better off and with less nutjobs.

Quite true, you don't really hear of any Buddhists suicide-bombing or campaigning to have television shows pulled and justifying it all with their religion.

It still does not say anything. Lots of monks are just as rotten as some christians. Many cases in Japan, Korea and China were found such as 1 Chinese monk driving around in Mercedes only to attend some expensive whore house in bling bling fashion and he is widely sought after monk with very good reputation among believers. Why is Mercedez wrong? Becuase monks are not supposed to be materialistic, nor can you eat meat or fuck a girl.

As I said, I don't think any extremists are real deals, but their faith gone wrong, or in most cases, to justify their actions in the name of god to buy attention or people. When you look at religions, people really shouldn't pay too much attention to those kind of evil people and look at the good side. I'm sure every religion has lots of qualities and upsides. People just seem to forget the primary reasons why the religion exists in the first place. For you to be saying the world would be better place without Islam and Christianity is saying like soccer fan saying it'd better if NBA didn't exist or non sports fan saying, sports sucks.

[Andrew]

I'm not saying there aren't people of all religions who aren't corrupt or otherwise bad people. And don't put words in my mouth; not once did I say the world would be better off without Christianity or Islam, nor am I forgetting why religion exists in the first place. Quite the contrary, I've been saying that everyone is entitled to their own beliefs and if those beliefs bring people comfort and meaning to their life, then that's great. I do think the world would be better off without the extremists, the kind of people who are willing to hurt and kill other people in the name of their beliefs, force their beliefs on other people or use their beliefs as a trump card to get whatever they want. At the very least, I seek to distance myself from those individuals.