The Milestone Thread

[J@3]

Would I care whatsoever if he insulted me about being white?

He stopped talking because he's a coward, plain and simple. If you had such a problem with it why didn't you speak up during the convo? Actually don't answer that, it's fairly obvious.

[funk99]

Would I care whatsoever if he insulted me about being white?

He stopped talking because he's a coward, plain and simple. If you had such a problem with it why didn't you speak up during the convo? Actually don't answer that, it's fairly obvious.

no offense but people wont insult you or anyone about being white but what is it with asians and Jews. etc. Its just like it doesnt mean anything when you bag em and they aent part of any community. I seriously wanna know why people do it because whats the point? is that the only thing people can think of when coming back as a comeback? being racist about someones background/nationality?

[J@3]

Well I never insulted anyone about being Jewish or anything like that, Sit's the only one who copped the Asian jokes but it was mostly just because I was "disgusted" that he wanted to gang up on Jugs like that. It's really besides the point, if he wants to complain about the racist jokes in an MSN convo that's fine, but it has absolutely nothing to do with the forums so it won't affect my status here nor will it affect his.

[funk99]

Well I never insulted anyone about being Jewish or anything like that, Sit's the only one who copped the Asian jokes but it was mostly just because I was "disgusted" that he wanted to gang up on Jugs like that. It's really besides the point, if he wants to complain about the racist jokes in an MSN convo that's fine, but it has absolutely nothing to do with the forums so it won't affect my status here nor will it affect his.

Why do you think its only him who wanted to gang up on him mate? There were many people in that convo and anyone of them could of added him. But surely u wouldnt want a tag over your name saying racist

[J@3]

Well to be honest I was pissed off at all of you who were involved with that, but I've read Jugs' part of the convo before I went in there and it was obvious Sit was taking advantage of the fact that Jugs was outnumbered. The whole racist tag doesn't phase me entirely, it was an isolated incident outside of the forums so I don't see what it has to do with the NLSC.

[Jugs]

Would I care whatsoever if he insulted me about being white?

He stopped talking because he's a coward, plain and simple. If you had such a problem with it why didn't you speak up during the convo? Actually don't answer that, it's fairly obvious.

no offense but people wont insult you or anyone about being white but what is it with asians and Jews. etc. Its just like it doesnt mean anything when you bag em and they aent part of any community. I seriously wanna know why people do it because whats the point? is that the only thing people can think of when coming back as a comeback? being racist about someones background/nationality?

They were better than anything you 2 could muster.

[09:34:11 PM] Will: Jugs is in ur inbox?
[09:34:17 PM] Will: i thought he only lived in jae's bed...
[09:35:23 PM] Will: matthew lives in jae's pants

[09:36:35 PM] |funk99: get a life jae
[09:38:14 PM] |funk99 : get a life

[09:39:00 PM] |funk99: juges = 0 iq
[09:39:20 PM] |funk99: jugs = mentally retardde

[shadowgrin]

thanks for the congrats guys, and i would like to apologize to Its_asdf, cyanide, and joeyjojo (shadowgrin?) for being a dick when i first became active.

No worries. As Jae said, you didn't go gangsta in debates. I have a certain respect for posters who can keep their balls in arguments.
Congrats on 1000, and stay around. The forum could use all the decent posters it needs to combat the shitheads lurking around.
Watch out for j.23, I hear he likes doing something involving balls.

to all the people who rag this guy 8-Hype, it is pretty immature. Paying him out for his poor english isn't respectable at all

The verb 'undeserve' doesn't exist. 'Undeserved' does, but it is not a verb.

please excuse me that I am not a native English speaker.

Then Hate-Hype should have stopped being the grammar nazi or Dr. Vocabulary to other posters who also commit mistakes with English words, and none of that "me poor English" excuses when his vocabularity backfires on him. (Yes, I intentionally used a word that has no meaning. Sue me grammar nazis)
I've seen Hate-Hype's post that are non-gangsta, and his English is pretty decent, but he used to post like a retarded gangsta when clearly he can post decently using English words, that maybe the cause of annoyance from most posters who had come across his' post. I'm guessing Hate-Hype might have been a good English user before but too much wannabe-gangsta crap rotted his brain.

[Fresh8]

You were so disgusted that you stopped insulting Jugs and pissed off like a scared little bitch.

- Ok, post a part of the convo where I was ragging Jugs? If you don't recall correctly, I asked what was up with you not leeting me state my opinion. After you people start syaing the things you said, I just read on and let you people ramble on. Also, what do I say to comments about all of us 'looking the same' and stuff like that?

You wouldn't know the right thing if it crawled into your fried rice and died. You just have these grand dellusions that you have influence around here. Again, PM'ing Andrew and telling him how to do his job? Please.

- I know the right thing- believe it or not. And a few others know too. And with PMing Andrew, I gave my opinion and asked a question.

Who are you talking to? Who cares what other people said/did to him, they didn't ban him nor did they get him banned. He got himself banned. He chose the way he reacted and if you'd bother doing your research (which is something your little friend Boyk could never do either) you'd see he made an entire thread to provoke people into arguing with him.

- One person can only take so much before he reacts the way 8-Hype did. Maybe if people didn't provoke him, he wouldn't retaliate. It's a two way street. Show me the link to this thread you talk of.

That's rich as hell coming from you. You're the one who gets a little gang of people to help you everytime you get into an argument. You're the king of ganging up because you're a coward, and too afraid to stand on your own abusing people. People who've backed me up in arguments here have NEVER been asked to do so, maybe you should try the same and see who really supports you.

- If I didn't show people any of this, they wouldn't have known how bad you all are. It's a pity people side with you for the wrong reasons.

He didn't get banned for being provoked. He's been abusing people for no reason for years aswell, once again Boyk 2, do your research. I don't know where you get this Saint 8-Hype thing from.

- He did that as a reply to other people's insults. I'm not calling him a Saint or anything but if you say this was the last straw for him... what did he actually do in this thread? Is it because he mentions and links to the other thread that got him banned?

See I have absolutely zero problem with you having your say on NLSC matters, you've been here for a few years so you aren't some 5 post wonder BUT I do have a problem with you not getting your facts right and doing this whole matyr shit. Our job is hard enough around here without people like you trying to make it harder by getting uppity everytime someone is banned.

- Well, sorry for making your job a bit harder then.

[funk99]

Would I care whatsoever if he insulted me about being white?

He stopped talking because he's a coward, plain and simple. If you had such a problem with it why didn't you speak up during the convo? Actually don't answer that, it's fairly obvious.

no offense but people wont insult you or anyone about being white but what is it with asians and Jews. etc. Its just like it doesnt mean anything when you bag em and they aent part of any community. I seriously wanna know why people do it because whats the point? is that the only thing people can think of when coming back as a comeback? being racist about someones background/nationality?

They were better than anything you 2 could muster.

[09:34:11 PM] Will: Jugs is in ur inbox?
[09:34:17 PM] Will: i thought he only lived in jae's bed...
[09:35:23 PM] Will: matthew lives in jae's pants

[09:36:35 PM] |funk99: get a life jae
[09:38:14 PM] |funk99 : get a life

[09:39:00 PM] |funk99: juges = 0 iq
[09:39:20 PM] |funk99: jugs = mentally retardde

man you can give a bad name all you as i said in that convo. but i dont care. i seriously dont.

[Fitzy]

i was only in the convo because i was there at the start, i didnt say anything to jugs and nor was i going to

[J@3]

- Ok, post a part of the convo where I was ragging Jugs?

[09:31:22 PM] Will: sup mrs huton
[09:34:11 PM] Will: Jugs is in ur inbox?
[09:34:17 PM] Will: i thought he only lived in jae's bed...
[09:35:23 PM] Will: matthew lives in jae's pants
[09:35:42 PM] Will: jugs, go see a doctor if ur crying out of ur ass

Then we came in and you stopped completely.

Also, what do I say to comments about all of us 'looking the same' and stuff like that?

Don't know, ask whoever said it because I didn't.

- I know the right thing- believe it or not. And a few others know too.

The "right thing" is subjective, and ultimately on this forum the right thing is decided by Andrew. He gave the 8-Hype ban the all clear, so essentially that means it was the right thing regardless of what anyone thinks.

- One person can only take so much before he reacts the way 8-Hype did. Maybe if people didn't provoke him, he wouldn't retaliate.

There's reasons for people not liking him, and they stem from like 2 years ago. I'm not going to do your research for you, but it's definitely there.

- If I didn't show people any of this, they wouldn't have known how bad you all are. It's a pity people side with you for the wrong reasons.

Lol how bad we all are? Yeah we're horrible people, we've run this forum into the ground. We should make it a paradise for these semi literate bobbleheads to voice their inane thoughts as they wish.

- He did that as a reply to other people's insults. I'm not calling him a Saint or anything but if you say this was the last straw for him... what did he actually do in this thread? Is it because he mentions and links to the other thread that got him banned?

That wasn't the reason, but it's what topped it off... like I said I could've banned him a month ago but I gave him a chance, the first chance he gets he goes and unnecessarily tries to start trouble with me and whoever. I lost count of the amount of times he PM'd me whinging about other people, and every time I went and fixed it for him. He had enough chances, it's not my fault he blew it.

[Fresh8]

About the MSN convo, I can't really rebutt to any Asian jokes. I can't make jokes about different nationalities. That's just low of me and i would be pretty disappointed in myself.

And to shadowgrin... maybe an identity crisis? Maybe he thought if he posted like he did with this 'gangsta' language... he thought he would be cooler??? I mean, yeh, maybe at his age, it wasn't neccesary but then again; maybe people could have ignored him because some have told me that he should have ignored the other forum members. It's a two-way street, I'm sure it doesn't have to end this way... but you know, I am powerless so there's nothing that I can do about it.

EDIT:

Then we came in and you stopped completely.

- Yeh, you got me there all right.

The "right thing" is subjective, and ultimately on this forum the right thing is decided by Andrew. He gave the 8-Hype ban the all clear, so essentially that means it was the right thing regardless of what anyone thinks.

- As I said and have been assured and re-assured, it's you guys' choice. There's clearly nothing I can do about it even if I keep on complaining cause in the end, it's you guys with the unban button or the what not. Still, this has been my opinion.

Lol how bad we all are? Yeah we're horrible people, we've run this forum into the ground. We should make it a paradise for these semi literate bobbleheads to voice their inane thoughts as they wish.

- Im not syaing all the things u do are bad. But on some things, it seems like you guys just lead a bunch of people to pick on others.

That wasn't the reason, but it's what topped it off... like I said I could've banned him a month ago but I gave him a chance, the first chance he gets he goes and unnecessarily tries to start trouble with me and whoever. I lost count of the amount of times he PM'd me whinging about other people, and every time I went and fixed it for him. He had enough chances, it's not my fault he blew it.

- He wasnt trying to cause any trouble. He was just posting to funk99. And maybe it was a bit rash for him to post what he did... half of it was probably not necessary... but he didn't cause trouble. It was Indy who said, 'Is that a Jewish insult?'... I think that was a bit uncalled for as well.

And even if we put everything aside and look at this last thing that happened, I don't think it was enough ot get him banned. He didn't say anything to you or the others.

[JaoSming]

Well shit, I missed my 1 year day. O well may was well say what I have to say here.

I want to thank everyone who helped me with my patching this year, from

lol Those bench players are funny

to those who showed me which programs to use and new techniques to make my patching easier.

I lurked in these forums for years and then rejoined after I forgot my password for "JaoSming" I never thought Id get as good as I did.

I mean it started with making everyteam enter the allstar game in 2005 and have them play on a indoor street court.....

http://img34.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot00936nm.jpg

to making my basketball team in the game.

Then came my first 06 courts
http://img276.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screen14rp.jpg
http://img331.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nighttime7aw.jpg

Finally I learned the EBO editor...

http://media.putfile.com/Mesaround from simple things like that

to full out courts
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i250/jaosming/12006.jpg
http://web.vtc.edu/users/jss08090/Images/Practice.jpg

and now I've dipped into lighting files, rosters, jerseys, and the Create a Player Files.

For Live 07 I hope I can live up to the hype I've created for myself, I have something planned that will hopefully blow you all away and just say wow. But we'll have to wait and see by the time I finish it.

So thanks for everyone who made this first year memorable and gave me another hobby for when I can't actually play basketball.

[shadowgrin]

maybe an identity crisis? Maybe he thought if he posted like he did with this 'gangsta' language... he thought he would be cooler??? I mean, yeh, maybe at his age, it wasn't neccesary but then again; maybe people could have ignored him because some have told me that he should have ignored the other forum members. It's a two-way street, I'm sure it doesn't have to end this way

The NLSC isn't the Guidance Counselor's room where we try to be as nice as possible to people with adolescent crises.
A lot of posters who probably have been in the same age bracket as 8-Hype had been ragged before because of their posts (or pics). Posters like Jugs, Peachy, Flite_23, Joe., Fenix, j.23, and countless others have been ragged. Yet we don't see them going insane against the other posters.
If he can't handle being ragged by other posters like those who experienced it before him, then it's better for him to leave.
It is a two-way street, but it's kind of hard to ignore him when some post tend to disrupt the flow of a thread. I wouldn't want to be posting in a stimulating thread and suddenly read "West Coast rulz!" as one of the replies.

[---]

congratulations on one year (with your new account anyways) in the NLSC. Some of the stuff u made was amazing, and i loved that video of Francis and VC, never seen it before. I just wish you made some of that great stuff for 2005

I am looking forward to Live 07, and really looking forward to what you manage to do with that too. great work

[Fresh8]

The NLSC isn't the Guidance Counselor's room where we try to to be as nice as possible to people with adolescent crises.
A lot of posters who probably have been in the same age bracket as 8-Hype had been ragged before because of their posts (or pics). Posters like Jugs, Peachy, Flite_23, Joe., Fenix, j.23, and countless others have been ragged. Yet we don't see them going insane against the other posters.
If he can't handle being ragged by other posters like those who experienced it before him, then it's better for him to leave.
It is a two-way street, but it's kind of hard to ignore him when some post tend to disrupt the flow of a thread. I wouldn't want to be posting in a stimulating thread and suddenly read "West Coast rulz!" as one of the replies.

- Still, the way he dresses, types, etc is his choice. But I guess you people showing how much you respect him less for that is yours also. I really don't have nothing much to add to this. So with jokes, sometimes there are some that are just over the line and shouldn't be said. 8-Hype wasn't the perfect poster or anything. Some may have seen him as a very bad poster or some thought nothing of him. But to ban him because he stepped across the line in this thread... I didn't see why it was reason enough to ban him.

I will stop adding now. I don't want to ruin this milestone thread any more.

[J@3]

But to ban him because he stepped across the line in this thread... I didn't see why it was reason enough to ban him.

I was assuming you read my posts to you but I guess not...

That wasn't the reason, but it's what topped it off

He wasn't banned BECAUSE of what he said in here, it was basically the final straw. He was banned because he was provoking people yet constantly playing the victim and blaming it on other people, and also ignoring the advice others were giving him to try and help him here. A forum like this is just like a sports team, if you've got someone who's bad for morale you cut them... 8-Hype, for a variety of reasons, seemed to have flame wars and arguments follow him wherever he went. Virtually every thread he posted in was de-railed, it wasn't always his fault obviously but he definitely gave people a reason to dislike him because of his general holier-than-thou attitude and the completely unexplained arrogant attitude he constantly took.

I honestly think he just enjoyed the attention (we all know he was an attention seeker) so he'd try to provoke people just for that reason, I don't know, either way, I think a large majority would support the decision.

It's also a pain to deal with a guy like him as a mod too, we're not baby sitters but he'd PM someone EVERY time someone insulted him, it just gets too much after a while.

I don't want to ruin this milestone thread any more.

It doesn't matter, all of the major threads (Letting Off Steam etc) have these discussions in them.

[shadowgrin]

He was already out of line. As Jae mentioned, Andrew already gave the go signal to Jae sometime ago even before the incident in this thread. He was basically "deadman walking" because of Andrew's approval. His 2nd chance was basically up to Jae. It wouldn'ty be right to say "Why did you ban him?" to Jae when that banning was already determined a long time ago by the NLSC Webmaster himself.

The way he types? As I posted before, 8-Hype could type decently but he chose to type like a retarded gangsta. Have you tried to read a wiggerous post? Tell me you understand every bit of it and your head didn't hurt after that. The ragging about his gangsta-appreciation way of living was probably brought on by the way he types/post gangsta-style, which is incoherent and annoying to most posters. Why pretend to be an illiterate gangsta when 8-Hype clearly has the mental capacity to post decently and clearly?
The insults regarding the way he looks/lifestyle was only brought on by the pretentious way he posts.

[cklitsie]

Congrats JaoSming and 8-Hype.

[bigh0rt]

Congrats JaoSming and 8-Hype.

Agreed. Two milestones I'm thrilled about!

[felix8621]

Congrats JaoSming and 8-Hype.

congratulations, keep it up

[Stevesanity]

Have A Break, Have A Kit Kat



And rinse it down with some Hatorade, The thirst Quencher



But seriously, everyone here needs to calm down, fuck some pussy and stop ruining the Milestone thread last thing we want is more shoutout threads popping up and 10 threads with flame wars about racism, muslims, jews, why someone doesn't deserve a shoutout thread and why all emo's should be killed. Come on black, brown, yellow, white/Catholic, Christian, Muslim, Jew, Buddhist, Hindu does it matter? We all(well with the exception of a few like j.23) like putting our tongue between that beautiful wet hole.

[jerry]

whoa im sorry to bud in but first of all jao i loved your work you've done a great job i cant wait to see what you have instored for us for 07
and also jae
]quote]I've had many many arguments when I wasn't a mod[/quote]
because you werent a mod. now that you are a mod and an ADMIN people just go on your side no matter what. and basically 8-hype was outnumbered by all the nlsc members that were on your side. i dont wanna get into this tho because i didnt know any of this so yeah i just wanted to have a say if you reply to me and i dont reply back prob cuz i forgot to check this and this is the first time ive been to this thread

[Cable]

I hate time zones.

Sit PM'd me for support, but I'm going to stay as I've been; neutral. The way I see it, both sides are at some fault because no-one stopped it. None of you had to reply to the others' comments, but you all chose to. It seems that 8-Hype may have been acting worse in the past, but recently from what I saw, the only thing he did wrong was defend himself and his views, which happened to be contrary to others. On the other hand, Jae does have more weight behind him because he's a higher authority, and his personality tends to respond to an arguement, but along with that authority comes the responsibilty to act mature.

Jae, I don't know what went on in the PM's with 8-Hype, but I'm going to assume you gave him a warning? If so, then 8-Hype is at fault and can blame no-one for getting banned. If not, I think you had a responsibility to do so. Whatever the case may be, the whole problem could have been resolved if one side did the mature thing and didn't respond. If someone insults/flames you, okay, you have a right to express your feelings, but is it that much of a problem if someone insults you over the Internet that you have to keep it going for days?

Again, I don't know what went on outside of the forums, and I'm sure what did contributed to the problem, but can't someone just end it? Maybe agree to disagree and get a warning against any future racial comments. Speaking of that, I think the forum needs to be tighter against racial insults. That appears to be the beginning of many arguements. Everyone knows that we have different views, be it political, social, etc., but taking it farther and insulting race is wrong.

I don't want to take sides or get involved in an arguement over my views, so I won't reply to anything like that.

On a lighter note, congrats Jao on the milestone, your patching is amazing, but did you have to quote one of my posts? At least post the pic of the players.

[Jing]

whoa... one night really made some progress. this seems more fit to MSN or like "letting off steam" thread...

nice job jao on your milestone... play for zoo already!