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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Another JaoSming Saga - Week 5 Drop Ste

Postby Qballer on Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:26 pm

under the hoop reverse Clyde Drexler style? or like Dominique used to do?

that intrigues me, but there is too much uncertainty and i was quite impressed with that self alley-oop off the ground
maybe try one where you "shoot" the ball into the air, let it bounce and dunk it :lol:
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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Another JaoSming Saga - Week 5 Drop Ste

Postby JaoSming on Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:32 am

Qballer wrote:under the hoop reverse Clyde Drexler style? or like Dominique used to do?

that intrigues me, but there is too much uncertainty and i was quite impressed with that self alley-oop off the ground
maybe try one where you "shoot" the ball into the air, let it bounce and dunk it :lol:


lol, more like I start the dunk from out of bounds under the hoop, and without spinning, dunk over my head back to the rim. and thank you, a "shot" alley can happen to for sure. Although, late in the games last week I may have pulled something in my right elbow, thinking its the base of my tricep. Still hurts so I may have no choice but to do the uncoordinated lefty dunk Wednesday.


But in other news, I weighed in at 299.0 this morning! First time under 300 in nearly 4 years (the Wii Fit saga ended with me approaching 300 in August '08)
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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Another JaoSming Saga - Week 5 Drop Ste

Postby Andrew on Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:21 am

Good stuff man, keep it up. :)
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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Another JaoSming Saga - Week 6 Under Ho

Postby JaoSming on Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:23 pm

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Take one off the list!

Obviously I do more than 1 attempt, and last week I even recorded some "gameplay", I might expand a do a "bonus" video each week of another attempt, reupload a classic moment from my old videos, or something to be proud oflike blocking an 8 year old girl off the wall.

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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Another JaoSming Saga - Week 6 Under Ho

Postby Andrew on Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:28 pm

I say two-hander next.
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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Another JaoSming Saga - Week 6 Under Ho

Postby Like A Boss on Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:46 pm

Love the guy in the background walking out of a door like a boss :)

anyways I agree with Andrew how about two-hander :)
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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Another JaoSming Saga - Week 6 Under Ho

Postby Brawn Shadley on Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:51 pm

The Michael Finley. Do a cartwheel then miss the dunk. Doesn't matter if you miss the dunk, it's the full cartwheel that matters.
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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Another JaoSming Saga - Week 6 Under Ho

Postby rise on Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:35 pm

All this dunking makes me wish I was taller than 5'7.

While I bitch about my height (or lack thereof), do the Darrell Armstrong dunk contest.
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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Another JaoSming Saga - Week 6 Under Ho

Postby Qballer on Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:50 pm

off the floor shot. we need some creativity out here these dunks would get you 5s in a dunk contest
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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Another JaoSming Saga - Week 6 Under Ho

Postby JaoSming on Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:38 am

I've been trying to get people to give me an easy AO pass, but no one's been able to do it :oops:
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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Another JaoSming Saga - Week 6 Under Ho

Postby JaoSming on Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:24 pm

299.0 lbs
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Another one bites the dust....bom bom bom
  • Lefty
  • Under-the-hoop reverse
  • Two-Hander
  • Off the Glass (its not impressive, just a lob step-step jump)
  • Off the Floor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... ZZ_8#t=43s)
  • Off a floor "shot"
  • Off One Foot (knee health dependent)
  • Under-the-hoop "270"
  • Superman Throw-in
  • The Mailman


Man, another tiring week. Too many people around to record it at the beginning when I was warm so this was another attempt after 90 minutes of playing. No worries though, I missed any oop, two handers, and the "270" when I was at the ready. Added the superman throw-in cause, why not? And the mailman, an easy one if I have another recording situation like tonight.

A 1 footer was attempted in-game. Felt the strain right when I jumped.....so don't expect that to happen until I can find more time to get on the stationary bike or actually work out.
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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Another JaoSming Saga - Week 7 Left Han

Postby Andrew on Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:25 pm

Cool, good to see it's still going well. Still want to see a two-hander. ;)
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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Another JaoSming Saga - Week 7 Left Han

Postby JaoSming on Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:29 pm

I can show you an attempt :wink:

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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Another JaoSming Saga - Week 7 Left Han

Postby Andrew on Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:01 pm

Close...it's gonna happen.
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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Another JaoSming Saga - Week 7 Left Han

Postby hova- on Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:40 am

Maybe you already posted it, but I wonder how tall you are and how high the rim is. I am 6-3 and very lanky, but I can't dunk. A big reason is that I cannot palm the ball which makes it more difficult, but also I am just not that great of an athlete, at least not an explosive athlete but rather more of the runner-stamina type.
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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Another JaoSming Saga - Week 7 Left Han

Postby JaoSming on Fri Dec 07, 2012 2:11 am

6`6" and it is a 10` rim installed over the summer
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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Another JaoSming Saga - Week 7 Left Han

Postby Kenny on Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:31 am

I've been following this for a while now. It's been a fun series to watch. If you could pull it off, a two hander would be impressive :)

I have to admit, I'm a little jealous of your hops. I'm 6'4 and I can't even touch the rim.
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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Another JaoSming Saga - Week 7 Left Han

Postby Pdub on Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:50 am

You guys over 6' who can't dunk really piss me off. Move those damn legs/feet and don't kill your momentum by "trying" to jump high by powering off the floor as hard as you can. You can't fight gravity with slow "strength" or "power". That actually kills your momentum. The quicker you get off the floor, the higher you jump. The quicker you get off the floor, the higher you can get.

That's why guys in the NBA had these crazy hops but it didn't look like they were doing anything different than other players. They would just explode, which is the best explanation for getting off the floor as quick as possible.

Matter of fact, don't even try to dunk. Just run and jump as quick as you can for a high layup and see how close your hands get to the rim. If you get high enough, lay it down lightly until you understand how to flush it.

On another note, Jaosming's videos are motivating. It makes me want to start up my leg strength training again.
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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Another JaoSming Saga - Week 7 Left Han

Postby JaoSming on Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:15 am

Pdub wrote:don't kill your momentum by "trying" to jump high by powering off the floor as hard as you can. You can't fight gravity with slow "strength" or "power". That actually kills your momentum.

how would you describe my jumping then? what you described is the only way I know how to jump/dunk and is pretty much my process. That is how I defeat gravity, lol. Granted, after watching my "Fly Skinnyboy Fly" dunks from 6-8 years ago I agree that I got off the ground a lot quicker, but it was still a complete destruction of momentum to a vertical jump.

So, I think to dunk "properly" maintaining forward momentum you need to do what you are saying (and build those calf muscles) but you can dunk through "strength" and "power"....it just ain't pretty.

Pdub wrote:Jaosming's videos are motivating

Thanks man. The weekly attempts are really motivating me as well and you can see a clear progression if you watch the videos in the playlist one-by-one http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL ... RQRtO-Ui2d
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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Another JaoSming Saga - Week 7 Left Han

Postby Pdub on Fri Dec 07, 2012 7:18 am

JaoSming wrote:how would you describe my jumping then? what you described is the only way I know how to jump/dunk and is pretty much my process. That is how I defeat gravity, lol. Granted, after watching my "Fly Skinnyboy Fly" dunks from 6-8 years ago I agree that I got off the ground a lot quicker, but it was still a complete destruction of momentum to a vertical jump.

So, I think to dunk "properly" maintaining forward momentum you need to do what you are saying (and build those calf muscles) but you can dunk through "strength" and "power"....it just ain't pretty.


Well, right now you have a lot of weight to get off the ground for a 6'6" guy, but it looks like you are getting up just fine. Especially since you are just taking two steps before your gather. I wouldn't expect you to try and run from halfcourt and jump off one leg or anything. You can dunk through "power", but I think the word is misused or misunderstood because people stop their running momentum when trying to thrust off the ground from two legs. From experience, I could feel the difference as my body gets tense or the muscles lock up as I try to "power" up, versus times when I was told that I was getting really high off the ground for a rebound, etc, which felt loose and almost involuntary.
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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Another JaoSming Saga - Week 7 Left Han

Postby Qballer on Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:15 pm

Pdub wrote:You guys over 6' who can't dunk really piss me off.

this. at 5'7" i get about 1-3 inches away from the rim. i wish i was like 6' tall

and i'm still waiting on a self-alley oop dammit
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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Another JaoSming Saga - Week 7 Left Han

Postby Andrew on Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:26 pm

badreligionau wrote:I have to admit, I'm a little jealous of your hops. I'm 6'4 and I can't even touch the rim.


I can relate. I'm about 6'3.5" and I can usually grab the rim, but I can really only fingertip dunk a regulation size ball. Pdub's post definitely has me wondering about my jumping technique on dunk attempts though, next time I join some friends for some pickup games I'll be keeping that in mind.
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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Another JaoSming Saga - Week 7 Left Han

Postby JaoSming on Sat Dec 08, 2012 1:21 am

Qballer wrote:and i'm still waiting on a self-alley oop dammit

yep, that is another one I attempt each week. I dont think its my ball, but I keep getting weird bounces. It could be the entire floor is a dead spot (I mean, there are frost heaves....) or my old ass ball.
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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Another JaoSming Saga - Week 7 Left Han

Postby hova- on Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:16 pm

Qballer wrote:
Pdub wrote:You guys over 6' who can't dunk really piss me off.

this. at 5'7" i get about 1-3 inches away from the rim. i wish i was like 6' tall

and i'm still waiting on a self-alley oop dammit


It seems like my biggest problem is the damn ball. Sometimes when I go up for a block I get really high up that I find myself coming down hard because I'm not used to jumping that high. But whenever I have the damn ball in my hand (I already mentioned that I cannot palm it), I lose a lot of momentum on my jump and cannot get that high.

I can hang on the rim with one hand without the ball ... still I also have to strenghten my legs more, which I will do now with the winter break @soccer.
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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Another JaoSming Saga - Week 7 Left Han

Postby Pdub on Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:07 am

hova-, try a self alleyoop off the ground?
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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Another JaoSming Saga - Week 7 Left Han

Postby Brawn Shadley on Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:02 am

swagger1930 4 days ago
You look like Andrew Bogut

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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Another JaoSming Saga - Week 8 Mailman

Postby JaoSming on Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:12 pm

296.2 lbs
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Everything left is hard :(
  • Lefty
  • Under-the-hoop reverse
  • Two-Hander
  • Off the Glass (its not impressive, just a lob step-step jump)
  • Off the Floor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... ZZ_8#t=43s)
  • Off a floor "shot"
  • Off One Foot (knee health dependent)
  • Under-the-hoop "270"
  • Superman Throw-in
  • The Mailman


Man, another tiring week. Boo hoo, gain stamina pussy ~Pat My dilemma is either waiting for the end of 90 minutes of basketball, or warming up before I head down and try to do it when everyone is shooting around. I mean, 10-15 people on 1 court gets a bit hectic. But yea, I'm out of basic dunks unless I find a headband to Cedric this biotch. Got some bonuses coming your way though.
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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Another JaoSming Saga - Week 8 Mailman

Postby JaoSming on Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:22 pm

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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Another JaoSming Saga - Week 8 Mailman

Postby Pdub on Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:47 pm

Can you do a sideways dunk? Not from the side, but with your body sideways.

Did I say something to you about stamina? If so, I'm a hypocrite.
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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Another JaoSming Saga - Week 8 Mailman

Postby JaoSming on Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:38 pm

naw you didn't, but for some reason when I get down on myself for being tired at the end of the games I hear your voice :crazyeyes: or:cheeky:

Sideways would be interesting, since I jump left foot-right foot. So with a lefty dunk it could work, but for a righty I'd have to like, contort 180.

There are other "basic" dunks I can do, tapping the side of the backboard, everything behind the backboard other than the ball and arm, straight vertical (no foot movement), but I really should be moving on to the oops and such (at least for video sake)
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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Another JaoSming Saga - Week 8 Mailman

Postby Qballer on Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:02 pm

yesssss ooops plz
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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Another JaoSming Saga - Week 8 Mailman

Postby Brawn Shadley on Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:44 pm

AO eh, then T-Mac that shite.
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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Another JaoSming Saga - Week 8 Mailman

Postby Andrew on Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:50 pm

You're pretty close to getting the lob off the backboard down; unless you wanted to give the two-hander another try, I'd say go for that one for Week 9.
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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Another JaoSming Saga - Week 8 Mailman

Postby Pdub on Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:45 am

Hehe. You hear my voice? :crazy: [i]Youuu can doooo it. Youuu can doooo it!

How about a cartwheel?
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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Another JaoSming Saga - Week 8 Mailman

Postby Andrew on Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:22 pm

Ah, now that'd be something. Michael Finley didn't even get his to go down, so the bar has been set fairly low. ;)
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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Another JaoSming Saga - Week 8 Mailman

Postby JaoSming on Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:17 pm

297.2 lbs (Finals :shifty: )
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  • Lefty
  • Under-the-hoop reverse
  • Two-Hander
  • Off the Glass (its not impressive, just a lob step-step jump)
  • Off the Floor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... ZZ_8#t=43s)
  • Off a floor "shot"
  • Off One Foot (knee health dependent)
  • Under-the-hoop "270"
  • Superman Throw-in
  • The Mailman


Shit.....didn't even try the "270", I probably would have made it....
I also tried a superman throw in, the side backboard grab I said I wouldn't do, and some lobs. I had no legs at all today, but I did put one 2-foot 1-hander down nice and easy.
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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Week 9 Off-the-Glass

Postby Andrew on Thu Dec 20, 2012 4:05 pm

JaoSming wrote:I had no legs at all today


It certainly looked like it, on your previous attempt at the lob off the board you were a lot closer but it seemed as though the ball just slipped a bit and caught the rim.
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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Weeks 1-9 Video, 80+ Dunks, Blocking a

Postby JaoSming on Sat Dec 22, 2012 4:02 am

a sappy little retrospective video with more piano crying and other stuff
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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Weeks 1-9 Video, 80+ Dunks, Blocking a

Postby Brawn Shadley on Sat Dec 22, 2012 4:55 am

JaoSming wrote:blocking a little girl

If it's good enough for Scottie Pippen to do it it's good enough for you too.
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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Weeks 1-9 Video, 80+ Dunks, Blocking a

Postby JaoSming on Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:11 am

at least I got a mini-tantrum :lol:
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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Weeks 1-9 Video, 80+ Dunks, Blocking a

Postby Qballer on Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:17 am

hey where are those dunks from the old skinnier you?
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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Weeks 1-9 Video, 80+ Dunks, Blocking a

Postby JaoSming on Sat Dec 22, 2012 6:25 am

indoor ones from my (first) college, Vermont Tech
outdoor ones from a park my hometown, Massachusetts
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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Weeks 1-9 Video, 80+ Dunks, Blocking a

Postby Brawn Shadley on Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:12 pm

After watching the video I just realized you blocked a girl with glasses. You might as well have punched her face while you're at it. For shame. :shake:
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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Weeks 1-9 Video, 80+ Dunks, Blocking a

Postby Pdub on Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:33 pm

Hey, she came to play. What would you be saying if she knocked down the jumper in his face?

Jon, stop giving excuses. We want to see you fly. Be a jerk and dunk on whoever is around the rim when your legs are ready instead of waiting after the games.
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Postby JaoSming on Sat Dec 22, 2012 8:50 pm

Excuses....feeds.....the.....beast....though...
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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Weeks 1-9 Video, 80+ Dunks, Blocking a

Postby Brawn Shadley on Sat Dec 22, 2012 9:00 pm

Pdub wrote:Hey, she came to play. What would you be saying if she knocked down the jumper in his face?
dunk on the girl when she is around the rim

Or set a hard screen.

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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Weeks 1-9 Video, 80+ Dunks, Blocking a

Postby JaoSming on Sat Dec 22, 2012 9:16 pm

to further excusify, the issue isn't so much people getting in the way of my dunking, its being in the view of the camera, knocking the camera over, or in multiple instances, scratching areas and stretching their butt in full view of the camera.

the best time for me to record maybe 30-60 minutes in, but since we've been playing with the same teams for the full 90, I'm not going to tell everyone to stop playing so I can film a YouTube series.
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Postby Pdub on Sat Dec 22, 2012 10:13 pm

You have to trick them by saying they can be in it and record some crap without hitting the record button.
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Re: Fly Fatboy Fly - Weeks 1-9 Video, 80+ Dunks, Blocking a

Postby JaoSming on Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:51 pm

most of them are aware of the series, kinda strange to suddenly whip out a camera and start dunking
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Postby Pdub on Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:02 am

Bring a trampoline and have a bonus dunk week to celebrate your progress.
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