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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby NovU on Sun Nov 17, 2013 8:42 am

Coach Thorpe: Kidd is the Worst NBA Coach
He gets an F. He gets a 0. My wife could coach a team to a 29th ranking for that team. She doesn’t know much about basketball.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/coach-thorpe- ... -nba-coach

What a joke. He's the best PG in the league history. How could he not be a great coach?
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby Andrew on Sun Nov 17, 2013 10:58 am

It's probably not a stretch to grade him like that. Even though he's one of the best point guards in league history, he's still making the move straight from the court to the coaching ranks, without any grooming as an assistant or time out from the game as an observer. Maybe he just needs to lean on his assistants for support a little more while he's still learning the craft.
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby shadowgrin on Sun Nov 17, 2013 12:12 pm

Andrew wrote:Maybe he just needs to lean on his assistants for support a little more while he's still learning the craft.

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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby _Steve_ on Sun Nov 17, 2013 7:30 pm

If he doesn't start winning, Kidd will be gone even before the ASG.
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby Andrew on Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:53 pm

It'll definitely be interesting to see what happens if the Nets continue to underperform, especially given his ownership stake in the team.
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby NovU on Sun Nov 17, 2013 10:23 pm

I still wonder what made him a headcoach right off the bat. The reasons were phony too, something like "He knows what it takes to win!" or "Players will respect him!". Ugh... He's still a guy with zero coaching experience on his resume whatsoever.

But there's a saying that coaches are only as good as the players they coach. And two leader/pillar players(or w/e you want to label them) have been utterly horrendous as well, namely KG and Deron. You probably still have some level of expectation from KG/Deron caliber players as they have experience, leadership with still capable game (from last season). But they failed to improvise or adjust whatsoever.

Only bright spot right now is probably a win against the Heat and somewhat close loss to the Pacers. And that KG/Deron can't get any worse. Coach Kidd probably will improve as well. Question is simply when.
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby benji on Sun Nov 17, 2013 11:31 pm

There's only so much you can do when the entire team wants to take long twos all from the same general spots. (Half the team seems to prefer taking jumpers from the right wing.)

Look at the shot chart for the Clippers game where the BIG FOUR didn't play. Close to the paint and close to the three point line. Deron, KG, Pierce and Lopez weren't there to fire all up their 15-20 footers.
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby _Steve_ on Mon Nov 18, 2013 12:55 am

I agree, shot selection and spacing are questionable at best.
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby Sauru on Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:17 am

NovU wrote:He's the best PG in the league history.



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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby shadowgrin on Mon Nov 18, 2013 3:32 pm

Stop hating on real talk Sauru.
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby SoF'nAwesome on Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:36 pm

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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby NovU on Tue Nov 19, 2013 12:15 am

For him it's probably some random player in green jersey. Heck, it even could be Jordan Crawford.

benji wrote:There's only so much you can do when the entire team wants to take long twos all from the same general spots. (Half the team seems to prefer taking jumpers from the right wing.)

Look at the shot chart for the Clippers game where the BIG FOUR didn't play. Close to the paint and close to the three point line. Deron, KG, Pierce and Lopez weren't there to fire all up their 15-20 footers.

Where can I find this choking chart?
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby shadowgrin on Tue Nov 19, 2013 1:54 am

NBA.com has shot charts so do ESPN.

http://espn.go.com/nba/shotchart?gameId=400489019

If you can't see the chart something's wrong with your browser's flash player.
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby Sauru on Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:07 pm

SoF'nAwesome wrote:Who's the best PG sauru?



this cant be a serious question
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby Jackal on Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:37 pm

Kevin Garnett. (This should sadden some folks like the James joke of last week that made Jaosie sads.)
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby SoF'nAwesome on Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:37 am

i was serious i want to know what the old celtics fan thinks
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby shadowgrin on Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:55 am

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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby NovU on Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:37 pm

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“He doesn’t do anything,” said the scout, who has watched the Nets several times. “He doesn’t make calls. [Assistant coach] John Welch does all the offense. Lawrence [Frank] does all the defense. … I don’t know what Kidd does. I don’t think you can grade him and say he’s bad. You can give him an incomplete.”


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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby Andrew on Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:41 pm

So much for him not relying on his assistants enough then, if they're doing all the work anyway. He'd probably be better suited as an assistant himself, where he can learn the ropes and mentor players having been so recently an active player himself. I guess as the head coach, he's something of a gimmick, a "name" to fill the position.
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby SoF'nAwesome on Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:53 pm

lol people just want to crucify Kidd so badly. You know this when quotes of "a scout who has watched a few Nets" games makes the headlines.
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby Andrew on Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:26 pm

A scout "who has watched the Nets several times", for whatever it may be worth.
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby Sauru on Thu Nov 21, 2013 12:24 am

SoF'nAwesome wrote:i was serious i want to know what the old celtics fan thinks



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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby NovU on Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:25 am

what kind of bullshit is this

this cant be a serious answer
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby Sauru on Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:54 am

i meant to say dennis johnson
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby Andrew on Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:39 am

No love for Sherman Douglas? Tsk tsk.
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby NovU on Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:52 pm

This thread deserves RESPECT and needs to be nominated for the Hardwood Classic. Every each page contains some fantastic stuff.
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby rise on Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:03 pm

So... um... 3-8?

Respect.
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby Sauru on Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:04 pm

boston is doing better than brooklyn right now. i find that very funny. wont last i know but for now i can smile.

now correct me if i am wrong but the celtics get a pick from the nets this year but the hawks have the option to swap picks first? so if the season ended today the hawks would about the 3rd pick in the draft and we would get the hawks pick?
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby Jackal on Thu Nov 21, 2013 11:07 pm

You guys keep laughing. You guys laugh cuz the Nets are different...the Nets laugh cuz you guys are all the same. Nets have 5 potential All-Star starters. And they have money. A lot of it.

This is the Nets owner to the rest of the league:

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Keep hatin' haters...this is fuel for the fire that is burning inside of PROVEN winner Ason Kidd ASTIGGGGGGGG :twisted: :twisted:
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby NovU on Fri Nov 22, 2013 1:14 am

Sauru wrote:now correct me if i am wrong but the celtics get a pick from the nets this year but the hawks have the option to swap picks first? so if the season ended today the hawks would about the 3rd pick in the draft and we would get the hawks pick?

I am not entirely sure but the site, you guys get least favorable of Hawks, Nets picks, so I think NO.
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby benji on Fri Nov 29, 2013 1:52 am

"Cup slipped out of my hand while I was getting Ty," Kidd said of "Cupgate." "Sweaty palms. I was never good with the ball.

"In the heat of the battle, you're trying to get guys in and out of the game, and the cup fell out of my hand."

Video replays appeared to show Kidd saying "Hit me," something Taylor flatly denied.

Said Taylor: "No [Kidd didn't say that]. I wasn't paying attention. I just kind of bumped him. I didn't even know he was holding [anything]. [But] coach was drinking a soda on the sideline. I was like, 'What's he doing?'

"It could ice a free throw shooter and be a timeout when you don't have one, but that wasn't the thought process. I was just coming out, and he was in my way. 'Coach, get out of my way, bro.' "
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby Sauru on Fri Nov 29, 2013 2:26 am

lmao. good job kidd.
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby NovU on Fri Nov 29, 2013 6:47 am

Could have been funnier if he was drinking alcohol. :lol:

Looks like it was intentional

Jason Kidd appears to intentionally spill a drink to buy time late in a game, Nets still lose (Video)
http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ba ... --nba.html

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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby Sauru on Fri Nov 29, 2013 10:07 am

kidd needs to learn a thing or two about acting
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby Andrew on Fri Nov 29, 2013 10:42 am

I guess the Nets' only consolation right now is that the Knicks are ever so slightly worse.
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby NovU on Fri Nov 29, 2013 3:24 pm

Avery and Carlesimo weren't too bad now, weren't they?
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby SoF'nAwesome on Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:37 pm

This shit is hilarious. Mega Shaqtin A Fool material. :lol: Kidd should join the circus if the whole coach thing doesn't work out.
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby Sauru on Fri Nov 29, 2013 10:19 pm

this is the kind of fine players should get for flopping
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Postby SoF'nAwesome on Fri Nov 29, 2013 10:34 pm

But this was worse than flopping.
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby Sauru on Sat Nov 30, 2013 1:28 am

i dont agree but only because flopping in insanely out of control. if people flopped as much as coaches throw drinks on the court then i would agree
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Postby NovU on Sat Nov 30, 2013 9:25 am

I agree fine is excessive but the league had to set the example. You can't have people disrupting flow of the game illegally.
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby Sauru on Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:24 am

NovU wrote:You can't have people disrupting flow of the game illegally.


this is done in every damn game i watch
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Postby SoF'nAwesome on Sun Dec 01, 2013 3:44 am

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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby shadowgrin on Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:58 am

Looks like Kidd isn't really that smart with the spill move...

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baske ... -1.1534186
Jason Kidd wasn't the first coach to spill a drink for a timeout. He was just the first to get caught.

Kevin Loughery, who coached in the NBA and ABA for 20 years starting in 1973, was using this gimmick long ago.

"There are different ways you can do it. You can have the players spill it. You can have one of the ballboys do it," Loughery said in a telephone interview from his home in Virginia. "They can't fine the ballboys, I don't think."

Loughery said he had used the trick several times, but only remembers the specific game of the last one - when he coached the Heat against the Hawks in the opening round of the 1994 playoffs.

Kidd said he learned it from talking to coaches and owners. Mark Cuban provided evidence when he tweeted out a video of the Chicago Bulls seemingly pulling the same stunt during a 2009 game against the Mavs, when Kidd was Dallas' point guard.

Kidd made a big mistake, however.

"He shouldn't have said to (Nets guard Tyshawn Taylor), 'Hit me,'" said Loughery, who coached the New York Nets to two ABA titles. "He should have just dropped it. He overacted."


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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby benji on Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:06 pm

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_ ... oklyn-nets
- Brooklyn Nets coach Jason Kidd has reassigned Lawrence Frank to a reduced role and Frank will no longer sit on the bench as Kidd's lead assistant coach.

Multiple league sources told ESPN.com in recent weeks there was "friction" and a difference of philosophies between Kidd and Frank brewing since the start of the season.

Many figured Frank would be the perfect sounding board and mentor for Kidd in his first go-around as a coach. But sources maintain that Kidd and Frank's relationship changed at the start of the season with a difference of "agendas" affecting their working relationship. A breaking point was reached with this as the resolution.

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The Nets have decided not to try to pursue another veteran coach to take Frank's spot even though they came into the season believing Frank's presence was vital to help Kidd with the rare immediate transition from player to coach. One coaching source told ESPN.com that the Nets ultimately concluded -- as much as they want a coach at Kidd's side who's been around the block to "guide him" -- that this pairing would not work if Frank insisted on telling him "what to do."

Kidd said Frank has been reassigned "to doing daily reports" and that Frank will not be sitting on the bench or working practices moving forward. Kidd said he does not plan on adding another assistant.

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Frank was demoted despite a lucrative contract that made him Kidd's top assistant. According to a league source, Frank signed a six-year deal with the Nets worth approximately $6 million. The deal included a front office position for the final two years of his contract, according to the source. Frank was earning $1 million in each of the first two seasons and $1.65 million in each of the third and fourth years of the contract.

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Originally, Kidd had his coaching staff set up with Frank orchestrating the defense and assistant John Welch handling the offensive duties.

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"We'll be coaches, that is who we will be," Kidd said of who will handle the defense and offense moving forward. "There is no one doing offense, no one doing defense. We will take the responsibility of being coaches. That is how it will be set up."
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby _Steve_ on Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:08 pm

They still got blown out by the Nuggets...
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby Andrew on Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:10 pm

From Woj's write-up:

"With Jason," one league source told Yahoo Sports, "once he turns on you, he turns. That's how he was as a player, and that's what we're seeing again now."
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