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Re: Aussie Basketball Discussion

Postby Andrew on Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:02 pm

A shame for all the fans who were keen, but as before you can't fault them for being concerned about financial stability. Presumably these efforts to expand will continue, hopefully at some point there'll be a proposal that has sufficient financial backing to proceed.
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Re: Aussie Basketball Discussion

Postby koberulz on Sat Dec 08, 2012 1:43 am

There's at least one other Melbourne group interested, as well as the Brisbane bid that hasn't been decided on yet.
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Re: Aussie Basketball Discussion

Postby koberulz on Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:52 am

Cedric Jackson vs Melbourne: 26 minutes, 28 points on 12/17 from the field, 2/4 from three and 2/2 from the line, 10 assists, 10 rebounds, 4 steals.
Cedric Jackson vs Cairns: 30 minutes, 32 points on 11/13 from the field, 2/3 from three and 8/12 from the line, 8 assists, 5 rebounds, 3 steals.

Rumours floating around that the Lakers might be considering Flynn or Jackson. Don't know how serious they are; Flynn's sucked horrendously thus far. Jackson's the far more viable candidate--his triple-double even came against Flynn--which would seriously hurt the Breakers.
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Re: Aussie Basketball Discussion

Postby Andrew on Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:54 pm

I guess Flynn's got more NBA experience, somehow making him the more preferable option by default. Not exactly sound logic, but I wouldn't be surprised if that was their line of thinking.
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Re: Aussie Basketball Discussion

Postby koberulz on Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:29 pm

Brisbane bid rejected, according to Andrew Gaze, though there's been no official statement as yet.
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Re: Aussie Basketball Discussion

Postby The X on Tue Dec 25, 2012 10:45 am

That's a shame. Such is life.
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Re: Aussie Basketball Discussion

Postby Phil89 on Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:02 pm

Actually watched this live. Hell of a finish. :applaud:

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Re: Aussie Basketball Discussion

Postby Andrew on Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:22 pm

*whistles* What a shot! Hell of a finish indeed.
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Re: Aussie Basketball Discussion

Postby koberulz on Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:21 pm

NBL TV is free this weekend.
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Re: Aussie Basketball Discussion

Postby koberulz on Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:55 am

Two weeks after losing their starting backcourt to ACL injuries, the Hawks have lost Glen Saville to what looks to be the same.


Huge game on Friday. If NZ win, they pretty much have top spot locked away for the season, since they'll be two games clear of Perth and only play them once more. Wildcats need to win to keep their hopes of home court advantage alive. It's essentially game one of the grand final.

Of course, on TV, Wollongong's bench will be playing Adelaide, who are looking like a lock to claim the spoon. Nice work, Ten.
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Re: Aussie Basketball Discussion

Postby koberulz on Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:07 pm

Geelong are apparently making a push for reinstatement in the NBL. Some noise coming out of Newcastle, too.
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Re: Aussie Basketball Discussion

Postby Andrew on Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:34 pm

Wonder who's going to finance that, with Tinkler obviously in no position to do so.
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Re: Aussie Basketball Discussion

Postby koberulz on Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:54 pm

Dunno. Apparently there's been something in the paper over there, so you'd be in more of a position to know than I am. Community model, perhaps?

Here is the article on the Supercats. They're talking about it not happening for five or so years, though. No idea which paper the Falcons article appeared in, or even what newspapers there are over there, so I can't track that one down.
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Re: Aussie Basketball Discussion

Postby koberulz on Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:56 pm

Looks like Saville will announce his retirement tomorrow, becoming the third Hawks starter in three weeks to go down with a season-ending ACL injury.
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Re: Aussie Basketball Discussion

Postby koberulz on Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:44 pm

http://www.centralkynews.com/amnews/spo ... 1843.story
http://www.sportingpulse.com/assoc_page ... D=22367298

An SBL side here in WA sacked an import after he claimed to the media that he was getting a $1 million deal, a private plane, and several other completely ridiculous things. I thoroughly recommend reading the first article; it's hilarious.
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Re: Aussie Basketball Discussion

Postby koberulz on Sat Mar 02, 2013 2:52 am

Perth's loss tonight means they need to beat NZ on March 22, the last game of the season, and hope NZ lose two of their other three remaining games, all against bad teams. Won't happen.

So NZ will have home court in the grand final against Perth for the second year in a row. The other two playoff spots are wide open, but with Perth in second at 19-6 and Melbourne in third at 10-12, it'd be stupid to suggest they'll actually affect anything. 99% chance third and fourth both have a losing record.

Adelaide benefited most from Gold Coast's demise, and picked up Schescher from Townsville, but were so horribly coached they're the only team mathematically out of the playoffs. Coach Marty Clarke's contract is up at the end of the season, and it's doubtful he'll be renewed. Sacked import CJ Massingale early in the season for only being a catch-and-shoot player, despite the fact that he isn't and was frequently told to fight his instincts to attack the basket, then replaced him with catch-and-shoot player Scott Christopherson, who is performing far worse than Massingale ever did. He's averaging just 1.9 PPG, 0.5 APG, and is shooting 23% from the field in a performance worthy of consideration as the worst import in the history of the league. Coach of the 1986 "Invincibles" 36ers team, Ken Cole, is interested in buying the club, apparently has significant US-based financial backing and a lot of great plans, with the status of Adelaide Arena--currently owned, I believe, by Commonwealth Bank as a result of previous owner Eddy Groves's bankruptcy--the only holdup.

Cairns have competed well the past couple of years, with a grand final appearance and a semi-final appearance, with a slow-down defensive style of game. Went for offensive recruitment this season, but lost a step defensively. Have some good young Aussie talent, most notably ROTY Cam Gliddon (yet to be awarded, but anyone else getting it would be a travesty), and are in a good position to build in the future if they can get the guys to stick around.

Melbourne have a lot of quality players--most notably Jonny Flynn--but an inexperienced coach and a lot of egos. Have done little more than whine at each other, their opponents and the referees all season. Flynn came out saying and doing all the right things, but has progressively become more selfish and entitled as the season has worn on. Chris Goulding has shown glimpses, but tends to throw up horrendously bad shots. Some of them go in, which just encourages him. Seth Scott showed some great signs early, but Flynn's ballhoggery has kept him completely out of the games since Flynn's arrival in the country and his production has dropped off. Adam Ballinger is starting to find form after a couple of injury-plagued seasons, probably wishing he was playing anywhere else.

Sydney came out like a house on fire, and despite losing Julian Khazzouh and Anatoly Bose to Europe in the off-season looked like making a serious playoff push. Have fallen away of late--currently on an eight-game losing streak--and with Corin Henry out for the season and James Harvey out two more weeks, are likely to miss the playoffs. Ben Madgen was in MVP form early in the year, but appeared to fall off a cliff after the all-star game. Have a fair bit of maneuverability within the points cap for next season.

Townsville sacked both their imports a week before the season, then signed former league MVP Gary Ervin, who was ineffective, and the corpse of Larry Abney. Abney retired mid-season, and was replaced by Luke Nevill, who had become available earlier in the week (whether or not this was a coincidence is unknown). They were 0-10 at the time, but ran off eight straight wins, Ervin now thriving off Nevill's inside presence, to push themselves into contention. Have regressed again recently, but are one of few teams to push Perth a couple of times this year, including a loss at Perth Arena by just three points. Ben Allen was a near-unanimous tip for MIP after the pre-season comp, but hasn't been seen since (although box scores do indicate he's spent time on the court during games).

Wollongong weren't predicted to do much this year, but a Gordie McLeod team is always going to be there or thereabouts regardless of how much talent they look like they have. Cemented their position as a genuine threat to Perth and NZ with a 33-point walloping of the Wildcats a month into the season. Lost their starting backcourt to ACL injuries in the same game, then Glen Saville to a meniscus injury, and retirement, a week later. The week after losing their backcourt, went down to NZ in NZ by just a point. They have a lot of holes to fill in the off-season.



In essence, it's been a perfect mix of injuries, import issues and bad coaching, which has kept 3rd through 8th incredibly close together but well below Perth and NZ, thus the abundance of losing records. NZ should come back to the pack a little next season, as they're the last team still with points cap discounts applied from the old system and they expire this year. Hopefully with Clarke--and, with a bit of luck, Anstey--out of the league next season, it should get back to being a close competition, unless there's another horror season of injuries. Cairns's development will be interesting to watch, as will Wollongong's. They've got the best out of a small budget--they've spent well below the cap the past three or four years--of late, but without Campbell and Saville in the side are likely to struggle. McLeod has a knack for putting together teams far greater than the sum of their parts, so they certainly shouldn't be counted out.

Melbourne are planning to move to Hisense full-time next season, with their owner suggesting that they're aiming to have more members than the Wildcats (who currently have 8.1k). Perth made a fantastic marketing push this off-season, nearly selling out the 12,500-seat Perth Arena for their home opener and having only one crowd all year lower than 10.5k, so it'll be interesting to see what the Tigers can put together.

Sydney will lose the Entertainment Centre, halfway through the season at the latest, and will be forced to move back to Homebush, where they played in the late 80s. Crowds are unlikely to follow them, so they've got the job ahead of them to convert old Razorbacks fans. When the new SEC is finished, though, they're likely to be in a good position if they can sustain crowds at Homebush, with bargaining position and a slightly smaller building more likely to create the scarcity that will attract a bigger crowd.

Perth have a fair number of discount memberships, and prices are only going to go up, so it'll be interesting to see what sort of numbers they can get for next season. I reckon we'll see a drop, although it likely won't be too big. The novelty has been starting to wear off, with their last four crowds breaking the previous lowest attendance mark for the year. A championship will help tremendously, but 10,000 members and 14 sellouts a season aren't something I can see happening.

Ken Cole apparently has a lot of fantastic ideas for the 36ers, so hopefully the Arena situation gets sorted and allows his purchase of the club to go through. Adelaide aren't entirely financially safe by the sounds of things, and crowds have been turned off by their abysmal performance this season. Cole certainly seems capable of reviving hoops in Adelaide, which is more necessary than expansion for the health of the league; losing Adelaide could well be the death blow.
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Re: Aussie Basketball Discussion

Postby koberulz on Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:13 pm

Cole's effort to purchase the 36ers has fallen through.
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Re: Aussie Basketball Discussion

Postby koberulz on Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:00 pm

NBL TV is now $1. That gets you every game of the final round, plus every game of the playoffs. And may be the only way you can watch the playoffs; only one of the semi final game ones is showing up on the TV guide at the moment, and it's on a 24-hour delay.
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Re: Aussie Basketball Discussion

Postby koberulz on Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:08 am

Perth and NZ through to the grand final. Damian Martin will miss the entire series, and possibly next season, with an achilles tear, which is essentially the same thing as having already won.

Being the only team in the playoffs with all your starters makes things awful easy.
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Re: Aussie Basketball Discussion

Postby koberulz on Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:12 pm

The owners of the Townsville Crocodiles have handed back their license. Unless someone steps forward to claim it, the Crocs will fold and next season will be a 7-team competition, if it happens at all.
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Re: Aussie Basketball Discussion: Crocs Fold

Postby Kenny on Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:36 pm

Me being a fan of a team is proving to be the kiss of death by the looks of it. So... I guess my QLD team is the Taipans now?
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Re: Aussie Basketball Discussion: Crocs Fold

Postby koberulz on Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:48 pm

I'd hold off on that if I were you.

No official statement from the NBL yet, even about whether or not next season would go ahead, so you'd have to think they're considering packing the league up for at least a year. If Cairns drop out too, I definitely can't see it going ahead.
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Re: Aussie Basketball Discussion: Crocs Fold

Postby koberulz on Mon Apr 08, 2013 4:51 pm

By the sound of it, the Cairns piece is a beat-up, and there's no problem there.

Meanwhile, the NBL is refusing to accept Townsville's withdrawal, insisting they either give nine months' notice or provide proof of insolvency, as per licensing terms.
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Re: Aussie Basketball Discussion: Crocs Fold

Postby Fresh8 on Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:45 pm

I'm hoping the Bullets will be back. Quite gutted that Crocs are out... NBL could be extinct in next 2-3 years if they cannot think of a way to save the league.
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Re: Aussie Basketball Discussion: Crocs Fold

Postby koberulz on Sat Apr 13, 2013 1:41 am

Breakers Three-peat

In other news, the Kings have signed AJ Ogilvy.
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