Lakers Thread

by **Jackal** on Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:11 am

Kuzma has been pretty damn good through summer league and the first couple of preseason games. For his draft position he really could be a total steal.

What happens with Randle after this year? He's in a contract year. What's the maximum the team should/would pay to keep him?

The Nike jerseys have a habit of untucking quite often, it's kind of annoying to see. Looks sloppy during the game.

Ingram has been aggressive with his moves, his shot doesn't look good though. Has bulked up a bit but if his shot isn't falling all of that won't make much of a difference. None the less, liked his aggression.

Ball is fun to watch, the Lakers probably won't win many games this season but at least we can hope for some exciting plays from them.

Bryant has been pretty fun to watch. He looks like a cabbage patch kid. From the visual test, I'd give him more minutes over Zubac at the moment.

by **air gordon** on Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:11 am

Are randle and Clarkson even part of the future plans since the Lakers want to save as much as to pay tampering fines and sign LBJ and George?

by **Jackal** on Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:42 am

I don't even get that narrative. Why would they manage to sign two max FA's and then have nothing else on the roster? Especially in the West.

Clarkson has already been paid. Remains to be seen what happens with Randle.

Something else I find a bit odd is that this team has nothing in place on offense for half court sets. Season starts on the 19th and they have absolutely nothing on half court sets? Is that usual?

At least Deng played semi-usefully last game. He's best suited at the 4 though...should be interesting. BLopez, Bogut, Zubac, Bryant, Nance Jr., Randle, Kuz & Deng. None of them especially any good at rim protection. Ball isn't much of a defensive presence on the perimeter. KCP gonna earn that 18 million this year.

by **air gordon** on Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:29 am

Depends what you define nothing as. And if not signing randle and getting out of Clarkson (and Deng's) contract gives them the chance to land the big fish, id be all for it

by **Jackal** on Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:57 am

I'm for it for sure, I think any team would appreciate two max FA's like George/James or George/Cousins, but realistically speaking, I just don't see it happening. Who was their last big free agent signing? Shaq?

by **air gordon** on Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:17 am

Who cares? Can't win the lottery if you don't buy the ticket. I would have trust in your management to have a smart backup plan if it doesn't happen

But hey disappointment is a familiar thing for a lot fans of various franchises here

by **Jackal** on Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:23 am

True that.

Let's enjoy the Big Baller Brand for now.

by **Sauru** on Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:40 am

kobe drove free agents away. todays players are more about having fun than having a killer mentality.players now that you guys have lonzo you will start bringing in the free agents again. dude is young, talented, has a level head, and on a rookie contract. thats all you need to start building in a city like LA

by **air gordon** on Sat Oct 07, 2017 2:55 am

so who should start/finishing games?
start ball-kcp-ingram-randall- lopez

finish with ball-kcp-kuzma-deng-lopez?

by **[Q]** on Sat Oct 21, 2017 2:43 am

What a shit show. I talked a lot of smack about Blake before the game but he proved me wrong. Weird starting lineup. Lonzo had no one to set up. Liked Clarkson's intensity and sense of urgency.

Hopefully kcp makes a difference

by **Bruce** on Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:06 am

[Q] wrote:What a shit show. I talked a lot of smack about Blake before the game but he proved me wrong. Weird starting lineup. Lonzo had no one to set up. Liked Clarkson's intensity and sense of urgency.

Hopefully kcp makes a difference

It looks like the Lakers are using Brewer in the starting lineup to see how a defensive minded wing will workout int he starting lineup. Hopefully, when KCP comes back after the suspension and injury, KCP would provide more offense than Brewer did. But in the end, a lot of the Lakers are still not playing good defense. Last game versus the Suns, both teams were playing piss poor defense.

In terms of how the lineup looks right now. I think the Lakers should make a bid to claim Jameer Nelson off waivers. A verteran like Jameer might be able to bring some stability on offense in the second unit.Caruso makes things interesting, but I do not think he belongs in the big league. Ennis, does not look like he has any more potential. I'm shedding no tears for Randle losing the starting job. Nance is doing well on being a smart player. I believe Steve Kerr is correct when he said that the PF position is non-existent in the current NBA. And Randle is not quite capable playing as an undersized center, neither do I think he is capable of playing the wing. Had Randle showed any signs that he could come close to playing like Draymon Green or Paul Millsap, then I think he would still have his starting job.

by **NovU** on Sun Oct 22, 2017 4:45 am

It's kinda crazy. Devin Booker and Eric Bledsoe got schooled against a rookie Lonzo. He made it look casual and once it becomes his routine, a modern era Jason Kidd perhaps?

Zo was easily considered the best prospect in stats world. But many of other rookies are also looking good this season. Strong class as advertised? However Fultz has struggled in his 2 games, not sure how much of it is due to his bad shoulder. Perhaps this is why Ainge traded the pick, kid was flawed(?). Only if he had guts to set his foot down and tell Lonzo "you are coming to play for us", we wouldn't be hearing Dee crying as much these days.

Haven't watched much Randle neither paid much attention. How is the kid? My perception is that he's stiff, strong but undersized, not reliable shooter(perhaps Jordan Hill range & ability) though can hit open shots, won't develop as a stretch 4 because of lack of natural shooting talent, won't be a force in rebound/blk/stl, but has ability to bully defenders with aggressiveness/power/speed, meaning good for scoring(especially team that needs one), versatile defender tho not dominant.

by **Dee4Three** on Sun Oct 22, 2017 4:48 am

NovU wrote:Only if he had guts to set his foot down and tell Lonzo "you are coming to play for us", we wouldn't be hearing Dee crying as much these days.

And this is why you are a tool.

Never cried once about Lonzo, or the Celtics this season. Everything I have said about the C's was positive.

Any more shit you want to make up NovU? What a damn tool.

by **[Q]** on Sun Oct 22, 2017 6:15 am

Lakers actually played pretty good defense in the 3rd, forcing turnovers which allowed them to get a bit of separation. They gave it back in the 4th beginning with 3 straight fouls from randle to help out them until penalty.

I had high hopes for Randle and Clarkson this year and Clarkson has been doing his thing. Randle has been a poor man's Odom but he seems to have a problem staying focused and playing under control. Unfortunately with Nance and now kuzma that actually makes him expendable for a Max player this summer.

Lonzo's numbers look like he dominated but that really wasn't the case. He had a great game, but Chandler allowed him to lay the ball up uncontested on the pick and roll. He does make a great effort on the boards though.

by **Jackal** on Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:53 am

I'm glad Luke didn't trot out Deng as a starter this time around. Also gave Ball & Kuzma minutes together as opposed to the first game where they barely played together. Good move by the coaching staff.

Lonzo Ball is everything I hoped D'Angelo Russell would've been when he was drafted. He had an amazing amount of points but I'm not about that. That kid is always, always looking to pass the ball. I love that. Give me a PG who scores 10 points and dishes out 10-12 assists over a PG who scores 20 and has 2 assists any day of the year. I wish Russell well in Brooklyn, rooting for him to do well but not too well.

Ingram finally had a good game. It's such a relief. He has a bit of tunnel vision and is a bit iso-happy. Hopefully he keeps developing in positively and looks to involve his teammates. He needs to really dig in defensively too, he's got the tools to be an amazing defender so I hope he doesn't look to just be an iso-type scorer. None the less, relieved to see his shot drop and him having a good game.

I'm over Randle. If Randle had 50% of the heart Nance has, he would've been the perfect 4 in the system. Perhaps add Kuzma's range and you'd really have a complete player. Randle's body language stinks. He still can't set a screen worth a damn. He doesn't even try on defense and the most infuriating part is how dumb he is when it comes to basketball IQ. He's as dumb as a rock and it's fucking annoying because if he had any IQ at all, he would be a flat-out beast. He's got the body for it (despite his T-Rex arms) and just enough skills to do some things well enough but nothing really extraordinarily well. He doesn't play hard consistently, he doesn't try defensively & he doesn't even set a half decent pick to free up his guards or wings. Maybe he gets traded, maybe he walks at the end of the year and knowing how things have been with LA lately, maybe a change of scenery wakes that dude up and eventually becomes a beast for his new team, but I don't see it working in LA long term. Lost all that body fat but still can't set a god damn pick and sulks at the end of the bench like a little bitch. I'm over it.

I love the addition of Brewer & Bogut. Bogut was out there in limited minutes but he's got passing vision & he plays tough. Brewer really messed Booker up as well and I loved, loved, loved his defensive intensity all game long. I didn't think he had it left in him at that age but color me surprised, absolutely loved it.

Easily the most fun game I've watched since Kobe's farewell game, it's been a long time. I'm glad I can expect to be entertained by Laker games against instead of hoping/wishing for players to not do the stupid thing & do the right thing when presented the opportunity. I hope Lopez resigns with LA for a semi-decent contract after this year too. Never a bad thing having someone you can rely on to get you buckets when you need them. Dude is a legit scorer. Needs to rebound consistently too though.

Randle, Clarkson & Deng fetch any decent offers of an expiring contract?

by **[Q]** on Sun Oct 22, 2017 11:45 am

Randle is definitely pouting over his lost starting gig. Nance and especially Kuzma's great play doesn't really help him either. His basketball IQ is so low, he doesn't even wait for retaliatory fouls lol. I mean, he's an okay player but all that we mentioned limits his potential, unlike a Kuzma or clarkson who you really see try hard and have the desire to be great. I think what would be awesome is packaging Randle with Deng's shitty contract, similar to how we unloaded Mozgov's terrible contract in the summer

by **Jackal** on Sun Oct 22, 2017 6:28 pm

That's all you can ask for to be honest. Just some god damn effort.

Sad thing is you'd have to throw in a Clarkson or a pick to sweeten any deal surrounding Randle/Clarkson because teams know he's up for a contract and could end up just being a rental.

Walton has gone in on him in back to back games already. It'll be interesting to see what happens with him. All the talent in the world but not a semblance of basketball smarts or consistent effort. What could have been. Had such high hopes for him when he was drafted.

I still believe he'll get traded somewhere and then just turn it on. He seems to be a player who would play better when he's soured. Although if that's the case, he should be beasting off the bench for us as well.

by **[Q]** on Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:53 am

I think if he can get his mind right, he could be a monster off the bench like Odom was back in the day. Clarkson's already embraced the role, but some players like to think that it's better to finish games than start them and you saw Kuz on the floor at the end of that game, despite him being a "bench" player.

by **Sauru** on Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:25 am

Dee4Three wrote:
NovU wrote:Only if he had guts to set his foot down and tell Lonzo "you are coming to play for us", we wouldn't be hearing Dee crying as much these days.

And this is why you are a tool.

Never cried once about Lonzo, or the Celtics this season. Everything I have said about the C's was positive.

Any more shit you want to make up NovU? What a damn tool.

its best to just ignore him. you know how every sports has 3 types of fans right. fan 1 is a die hard through thick and thin. fan 2 follows the good teams and seems to have a new "my team" every season. fan 3 does not give a shit who wins they just want to see certain teams lose. NOVU is fan 3, he enjoys watching teams lose more than he enjoys watching a team win. i saw a lot of fans like this in boston. people who could not tell you 3 guys on the red sox team but would go on forever about how much they hated the yankees and how it was "ok if the sox lose as long as the yankees dont win"

by **Jackal** on Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:29 am

Wrong. NovU just follows Wade to whichever team he is and shit talks every other team. He's a new model of fan. He's a hybrid between 2-3.

Anyways, back to Lakers.

Great, great effort by the young Lakers. In one post I kill Randle and then he comes out the next game as if he just gets it. Hope he remains this way, consistent, tough play is all Lakers fans want from him.

Edit: It might just be clicking.

Julius Randle: "For me, its more than just my play, it’s my attitude, along with my effort & how I make other people feel." Source.

Being down 22 and working their way back to actually recapture the lead, awesome effort. It's unfortunate they couldn't hold on and win the game but being a young team, that's to be expected in games such as these. I'm glad they didn't hang their heads and they fought their way back. Proud of their effort, disheartened they lost.

Edit 2: The Lakers half court offense is non-existent at the moment. The coaching staff really need to step up in that department. I am glad to see more pick & roll being run and it usually leads to a good result. Sure Ball turned it over a few times but with hard dives it usually lead to good stuff. But there's still much too much ball pounding/lack of passing/player movement. Given the reports all they focused on in training camp was defense, it doesn't show. Might as well have done some half court sets as well.

Anyways, hopefully that comes as the season progresses. If they can't do that well, they need to provide consistent energy much like they did most of the second half. It's got to be one of the two to keep them competitive. Low energy/effort and ball pounding are what got them in a 22 point hole in the first place. Guys like KCP, Kuzma, Bogut & Brewer are quickly becoming favorites just based on their energy & effort.

by **[Q]** on Tue Oct 24, 2017 5:57 am

Dammit I stopped watching at the half as I figured it would be a blowout lol

Luke needs to swap the bench and starters because he's too focused on having firepower for the second unit when there isn't enough for the starters. Lonzo is a facilitator and Ingram and Lopez are the only starters that are halfway decent at scoring and getting their own shot. Hopefully kcp becomes that main scorer for the starters once he settles in. Doesn't matter how good your bench is if they come in to a 15-20 point deficit. Glad he stopped playing that scrub ennis.

by **Jackal** on Tue Oct 24, 2017 6:14 am

Nah, I feel Nance next to Lopez is great. He balances out Lopez's lack of mobility on defense. (Although Lopez is great at going straight up.) Nance just hustles and deserves to start over Randle at the moment.

KCP looked good. He made some shots I didn't think he was capable of making and I was pleasantly surprised he was more than capable to not only get a good shot off but also able to make them.

Lopez
Nance
Ingram
KCP
Ball

Randle/Bogut
Kuzma
Brewer
Hart
Clarkson

The second unit are the ones that got the Lakers back. Walton came out and straight up said Deng is out of the rotation for the time being. I wish they'd just buy the dude out, he's not adding much this way and dude deserves to play somewhere.

You should try and watch a recap of the second half, easily one of Randle's better games/effort. He was going at Cousins on D, literally wrestling him in the post.

by **[Q]** on Tue Oct 24, 2017 6:23 am

I thought inserting bogut for defense early on worked out well against the taller players. Randle at a huge disadvantage against scoring centers. I think they got a good team here Luke just needs to figure out rotations and matching and all that. Looks like Hart got some PT in the second half. His defense probably helped as well.

Also Lakers announced that the classic jerseys are the blue mpls jerseys as Conrad predicted. The ones in NBA live were placeholders as expected

by **NovU** on Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:54 am

Stop analyzing NovU.
I anal you, not the other way around.

Considering how well Kuzma's been playing since summer league and all that, Randle becomes obvious expendable piece. Both are at age of 22, but Kuzma's new to the league so perhaps more upside with adjustment to come.

I personally, generally, consider 24 is the age when development stops unless it's a special case, also not counting adjusting/tweaking skillset. both Kuzma and Randle have 2-3 year left in that regard to shape their game.

So I hear people loving Kuzma in LA, how is his game? Does he have superstar or allstar potential? Or does he lack something, like strength, or athleticism for modern big? AFAIK, kid's got pretty good bball IQ and nice fineness/shooting for a big man.

by **[Q]** on Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:06 am

I like his attitude. Like Clarkson he's got a killer instinct and wants to be great. Skill wise he's a good all around player with surprisingly good court vision

by **air gordon** on Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:40 am

Jackal wrote:I
Lonzo Ball is everything I hoped D'Angelo Russell would've been when he was drafted. He had an amazing amount of points but I'm not about that. That kid is always, always looking to pass the ball. I love that. Give me a PG who scores 10 points and dishes out 10-12 assists over a PG who scores 20 and has 2 assists any day of the year. I wish Russell well in Brooklyn, rooting for him to do well but not too well.

Russell was pretty solid the other day against ATL. was getting his teammates involved the first 3 qtrs and in the 4th hit a few big shots while still setting up teammates.

by **Jackal** on Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:43 pm

air gordon wrote:Russell was pretty solid the other day against ATL. was getting his teammates involved the first 3 qtrs and in the 4th hit a few big shots while still setting up teammates.

I saw some boxscores and saw he was getting buckets. He had a single assist in one boxscore though and that too on a highlight play to Moz I think. Like I said, good, but not too good hopefully.

Solid all around game by the young guys. Luke's rotations are whack. If someone is playing well, he should play them. Randle was great this game. That's been two games in a row where he's shown good effort. He's locked in defensively (that block on Wall!), he's under control (most of the time) on offense and he actually set good picks! Ingram had another good game with a double double. I felt Kuz forced some shots but gotta give it to him that he's not afraid to take shots when the game is on the line. Even Jr. had a double double thanks to his strong dives and putbacks.

Good first* win, Washington is no longer the unbeaten team in the East.

*Won against the Suns but that doesn't really count.

by **Dee4Three** on Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:57 pm

Ball may have shot poorly, but he managed the game. 1 turnover in 39 minutes is promising, and quite impressive so early in the season.

by **air gordon** on Fri Oct 27, 2017 1:14 am

too bad lin was hurt. putting russell in a situation where he wasn't the sole playmaker/work him for scoring opportunities suits him.

caught the 1st half of last nite's game. lala did look good

by **Jackal** on Fri Oct 27, 2017 6:25 am

air gordon wrote:too bad lin was hurt. putting russell in a situation where he wasn't the sole playmaker/work him for scoring opportunities suits him.

caught the 1st half of last nite's game. lala did look good

The Russell trade is going to be an absolute stinker if they don't land 2 max FA's next season. I am holding off blasting the front office on that till then.

by **[Q]** on Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:18 am

Holy shit what a game. I learned from the new Orleans game to keep watching no matter how bad they're getting killed. Boy was I rewarded for that.

Kuz did force a few shots but they were shots he normally hits. They all seemed off to the left.

Hopefully Julius has learned what it takes to get more playing time.

by **[Q]** on Sat Oct 28, 2017 4:52 pm

Good showing tonight, I still don't like the starting lineup who all got taken out in the 4th when they continued to suck
This Ennis guy needs to go. He's terrible. I'd rather have Caruso at this point. They need a vet like Beno or someone to come in and stabilize the backup PG position or fuck it don't play Ennis have clarkson & hart run the point

by **Jackal** on Sun Oct 29, 2017 12:31 am

The starters were atrocious tonight. The Randle-Kuzma-Brewer-Hart & Clarkson line-up was really getting shit done last night, Clarkson got pulled for pounding the ball too much in favor of Ennis though. Another good showing from Randle this game. Real shame they lost that one. Brook, get your ass a bit more in the paint man, let the three be a luxury.

I was hoping the Lakers could've gotten Jameer Nelson before he was picked up by the Pelicans. Knows his role, veteran, seems even-keel...but it wasn't meant to be.

by **NovU** on Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:25 am

What is with Lonzo shooting so poorly? Scoring efficiency was his strength in college.

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:48 am

He's not facing college-level competition anymore.

by **NovU** on Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:59 pm

Yeah, I am just wondering though what the issue is, if he's missing regular shots that he used to take or major issues in shooting motion as worried. One thing people raved about Ball in college was excellency in his shot selection. I thought it would be a smoother transition than this as he's shooting piss poor .385% TS and gawd awful ORtg 82. I know I know, it's only early season but Ball is one player I am keeping my eyes on.

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:22 pm

His shooting form probably has something to do with it. It's far from textbook, and he holds the ball fairly low. Through six games, he's tied for second (admittedly with five other players) in blocks against, so he's getting his shots swatted a fair bit so far. He's also facing grown men with more experience at the professional level, and more athletic competition across the board than in college. Consider that in the Summer League, he was struggling to take Kendall Marshall off the dribble. The points aren't going to come as easily for him, night in and night out.

by **[Q]** on Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:16 am

I think it's partly due to people playing harder against him because of who his father is and the hype he's getting. Also, at UCLA he was the best player so he could really control the ball and the game and pick his spots. He would pull up from 30 ft and swish like it was nothing but I don't think Luke would appreciate him pulling up from 25 ft out as opposed to running the system. He's also got all these mouths to feed now so his scoring really comes secondary and his scoring comes more from opportunistic plays than anything. Let's just say the Lakers aren't running lays to get him to score

by **air gordon** on Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:31 am

is the play harder against him narrative sort of a cop out? beverley is on another planet defensively and that game ball blew up, phoenix was terrible on the picks.

there was a little hype with the wiz game but from the action i saw, he was just missing shots and the wiz stink on defense.

almost half of ball's shots are from 3pt land (making only 28%) and he barley goes to he ft line. odds against him to have a solid ts%

by **Sauru** on Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:23 am

lonzo will be fine, right now people are just gunning for him and he is a rookie after all. most people seem to think he has the highest potential but said tatum was the most nba ready. seems to me most people are right. the hype around ball was too big too soon so suddenly people expect him to be lebron james. kid will be fine, let him adjust

YouTube · by **shadowgrin** on Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:10 am

Someone hacked Sauru's account.

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:26 am

Sounds like a jinx if ever I heard one.

by **Sauru** on Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:55 pm

thats the last time i leave the site up at work i tell you what

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:54 pm

Sauru wrote:i tell you what

Totally read that in Hank Hill's voice.

by **Sauru** on Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:26 pm

Andrew wrote:
Sauru wrote:i tell you what

Totally read that in Hank Hill's voice.

lol that was the intention. i am glad it came across that way

by **Jackal** on Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:52 am

air gordon wrote:is the play harder against him narrative sort of a cop out? beverley is on another planet defensively and that game ball blew up, phoenix was terrible on the picks.

there was a little hype with the wiz game but from the action i saw, he was just missing shots and the wiz stink on defense.

almost half of ball's shots are from 3pt land (making only 28%) and he barley goes to he ft line. odds against him to have a solid ts%

I'm not buying the "they play harder against him" thing either. It's a combination of him just missing shots, settling for shots & the ankle which he said is still at 85% according to Stu & Bill. From the last game against Detroit it's also more evident he made much more of an effort to get in to the lane than take off the screen or pass out three's which should help. I'm not really concerned about his offense, it'll come. I do think the coaching staff should involve him in more slashing/cuts to the basket type plays. D-Lo & Ball would have been such an interesting back court. Wish they would have at least given us a taste of it and then made the trade come trade time in Feb.

That game against Detroit was something. The Pistons didn't shoot free-throws till like the fourth quarter! The starters came out with good energy, the reserves also played their usual good brand of basketball and Randle has really been bringing it since that game where he called himself out. I'm actually loving Don Julio again!! A bit odd he was pulled in the second or third and replaced by Bogut though. None the less, loving his effort.

Josh Hart has been quite a revelation too, dude just plays solid basketball. Correct plays on offense, takes what he's given and plays hard on defense. The Lakers draft department really do a solid job with these guys.

Ingram played fantastic too. Didn't force too much, was active on D and just played within the system/his role. 13 points, 5-6 rebounds a few assists and a steal should be realistic for the kid. Magic shouldn't have come out and said they expect 20 ppg from him.

That's one thing I can say about these Lakers...they at least try on defense. It's such a better brand of basketball than the previous couple of years. It's just better basketball in general to watch. That's all Laker fans should expect from these guys; effort on a consistent basis. Both on D & O but I believe if your D is there, the O (which is pretty much run, run, run) will happen by itself.

On a different topic: Wtf is up with these Nike jersey's? That canary yellow isn't Lakers Gold. The color just seems off to me. Also they wear their purple away jersey's somewhere end November for the first time. I wish Nike didn't fuck the whole system up. It was working just fine. Also get your colors down Nike.

End jersey rant.

by **[Q]** on Thu Nov 02, 2017 3:35 am

I think the color has something to do with the material. Obviously it's a new material so it doesn't come out the same way. It's a lot thinner too, which might desaturate the gold color a bit

I do like it when BI doesn't force it too much and he's actually become pretty good with that mid range elbow jumper
I like the way Hart plays. Solid defense. Glad ennis didn't see the floor until garbage time. Pistons were definitely getting shafted on foul calls but it wouldn't have made a difference. I think bogut will be used for certain matchups and when Luke feels they need to get some stops

by **air gordon** on Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:18 am

pistons came in hot, knocking off some very good teams. i would call that an impressive win

PF production in this game pretty damn good.

thoughts on Brook Lopez? should this guy be playing more?

by **[Q]** on Thu Nov 02, 2017 6:12 am

Honestly I've been a little unimpressed with Lopez. I was kinda expecting more from him. He's got some decent post moves but doesn't seem to want to be the kind of guy you throw the ball to to get you a bucket when you need it. Also he's been jacking up a lot of 3s and he's really not that great at them. It's about as frustrating as Josh Smith shooting 3s on those hawks teams.

by **Jackal** on Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:24 am

air gordon wrote:thoughts on Brook Lopez? should this guy be playing more?

His offense will come too I think. I agree with Q that he should get his big butt more in to the paint but with that line up he's basically their only shooter out there, which is an oddity. He does a good job of boxing out and when he's around the rim he does a decent job of contesting shots. He's just so slow...totally out of place with the run mentality. I can't say I'm let down per se...I wasn't really expecting much since I didn't know his game.

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