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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Andrew on Sat Apr 15, 2017 2:47 am

It's like the old saying goes. Organisations qualify for the Playoffs!

It's a shame that it's a feather in his cap, but since he wasn't going to lose his job anyway, at least there's the dignity of a token postseason appearance in a season that appeared to be headed for complete disaster. Not so much a silver lining as an aluminium one, of course.

I wonder what, if anything, they have planned for the future.
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby air gordon on Sat Apr 15, 2017 3:29 am

Lol well said

What do you think they will do??
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Andrew on Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:47 am

Depressingly, pretty much any unwise move we could think up seems feasible. That, or sitting on their hands and doing absolutely nothing, because they made the Playoffs, which means it's all going to plan!

I think they'll pick up Rondo's option, unless he makes it clear that he wants out and will be a surly malcontent if he's kept around. I also think that at this stage Wade is going to opt in, as it's a lot of money to leave on the table, so they'll have him by default. I'd like to think they'll pursue someone like Jrue Holiday, either to replace Rondo completely, or relegate him to the bench permanently. Sadly, I think it's more likely that they target someone who is overrated, or miss out on a significant free agent signing altogether.

Since we're getting more into the territory of what they should do, I've been thinking about that. I'm really liking your suggestion of bringing in Derrick Favors, someone who is already pretty solid, but is still young and has a lot of potential that he could realise, given the opportunity. In terms of more established players, again I'm in favour of pursuing Jrue Holiday. On paper, they're not major coups like the Heat getting LeBron (and then the Cavs getting him back), or the Warriors getting Durant, or the Lakers getting Shaq back in the day. They would be solid moves though, improving the roster and addressing deficiencies. If there are any affordable long range specialists on the market, they'd be a wise investment as well.
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Moz The Boz on Sat Apr 29, 2017 12:37 pm

Only worth keeping outside of Butler, and perhaps RoLo, is Zipser. I reckon having a pick and pop bigman (ala Pau Gasol) is a better option to pair up with Butler instead of another wing. He loves eating up most of the possessions. Or perhaps just pick up a non ball dominant wing and pick one between Joe Ingles, James Johnson, or PJ Tucker. It would be awesome if they can nab Otto Porter but he'll be pricy and surely the Wizards will not let him go. Will you lot like it if they'll pursue Paul Millsap (fuck Blake Griffin)? It'll be good if they can pick up Jrue Holiday but it seems they will probably keep Rondo.
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Andrew on Sat Apr 29, 2017 12:52 pm

At this point, I'd probably prefer Millsap to Griffin, but it'd also be another signing that's a few years past being a great pick-up.
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Andrew on Sat Apr 29, 2017 7:53 pm

With credit to Valor for the heads up on the article: Gar Forman, John Paxson deserve most blame in lost Bulls' season

It's a great summary of the situation. Apparently, ESPN didn't fire all of their last good writers after all.
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Valor on Sun Apr 30, 2017 12:26 am

Andrew wrote:With credit to Valor for the heads up on the article: Gar Forman, John Paxson deserve most blame in lost Bulls' season

It's a great summary of the situation. Apparently, ESPN didn't fire all of their last good writers after all.

Cheers :chug:

I find the final paragraph of this article to be most illuminating...

The difference between last season and the present is that fans seem to be angrier than ever at the lack of direction from within the organization. Stories of longtime season-ticket holders stopping their payments are popping up all the time. The money and loyalty that the Bulls have counted on for decades isn't as Teflon strong as it used to be. There's enough blame to go around throughout the organization after this season, but fans should make sure that Forman and Paxson take the brunt of it.


Although I don't live in Chicago and thus am not a "longtime season ticket holder" as described, like many of you here I have been a Bulls fan for more than two decades and we've all been through some (okay, a lot since 98) shit times. This has been the first season when I said fuck it I'm not watching Bulls games (well, until the playoffs anyways), not buying the Bulls league pass, and not wearing their apparel out of protest.

This organisation run by GarPax has turned into a running joke around the league and sunk as low as the Kings and Sixers and it's enough. We need to hold their asses accountable somehow and I am really fucking glad that the fans in Chicago are doing something about it at last. Is it going to be enough to force Reinsdorf to finally fire a guy in management (something he never does, whether it's the White Sox or the Bulls)? Prob not, but at least GarPax is being called out for it at last.
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Andrew on Sun Apr 30, 2017 12:49 am

Considering how loyal the fanbase has been, through all the ups and downs, I hope it will send a message. Obviously, there's not a whole lot fans like you and I can do on this side of the world, except make a symbolic gesture that results in some degree of personal catharsis, but it's good to see some sort of rebellion from fans who are in a position to make a statement with their wallets.
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Valor on Sun Apr 30, 2017 12:52 am

Andrew wrote:Considering how loyal the fanbase has been, through all the ups and downs, I hope it will send a message. Obviously, there's not a whole lot fans like you and I can do on this side of the world, except make a symbolic gesture that results in some degree of personal catharsis, but it's good to see some sort of rebellion from fans who are in a position to make a statement with their wallets.

For sure, those fans who are living in Chicago hold all the power and yeah hopefully half empty arenas would force Reinsdorf to do something at last.
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby air gordon on Sun Apr 30, 2017 2:04 am

MozTheBoz wrote:Only worth keeping outside of Butler, and perhaps RoLo, is Zipser. I reckon having a pick and pop bigman (ala Pau Gasol) is a better option to pair up with Butler instead of another wing. He loves eating up most of the possessions. Or perhaps just pick up a non ball dominant wing and pick one between Joe Ingles, James Johnson, or PJ Tucker. It would be awesome if they can nab Otto Porter but he'll be pricy and surely the Wizards will not let him go. Will you lot like it if they'll pursue Paul Millsap (fuck Blake Griffin)? It'll be good if they can pick up Jrue Holiday but it seems they will probably keep Rondo.

way to stay strong on your protest against the bulls...

last thought on the celts series- 100% agree if the bulls had taj they win the series. stevens adjustment of small ball goes down the toilet since taj can defend high pick n roll and would punish green or whatever smallish forward the celts had. but time to let that boat sail

what to do in the offseason? really im beaten down by crappy management moves. fun to talk about cp3, griffin, etc but its all hypothetical. its unlikely to happen

i dont even know if its worth posting in this thread anymore tbh if its just going to be anger and frustration. props to playoff playoff rondo showing up for 2 games but if its still the 3 alphas back next year its going to be more of the same headaches again. but hey at least theres the lakers, kings knicks to make us feel better about ourselves

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Andrew wrote:For sure, those fans who are living in Chicago hold all the power and yeah hopefully half empty arenas would force Reinsdorf to do something at last.

i heard the UC wasn't half full yesterday. and if a media monster like ESPN can get hit in the pocket, a cash cow like the bulls can too
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Moz The Boz on Wed May 03, 2017 6:45 pm

air gordon wrote:way to stay strong on your protest against the bulls...

You never know perhaps Paxson is pissed with Forman and he put some GM power on Butler that's why they had this exclusive exit meeting with him.
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Andrew on Wed May 03, 2017 7:25 pm

Either that, or Paxson asked him if he'd be open to a trade to Minnesota for a bag of peanuts.
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby air gordon on Thu May 04, 2017 1:46 am

Good times ahead. The management press conference is coming up 11am CST
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby air gordon on Thu May 04, 2017 7:33 am

Hats off to the management. They have mastered the art of answering questions without answering questions

Even now they think they can develop 10 young players and expect to compete.

Only they could make Hoiberg a sympathetic character

Surprised to see them point the finger at Hoiberg for not developing the trash young players on the roster

Sorry. Looks like more of the same for next year
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Andrew on Thu May 04, 2017 10:13 am

More Hoiberg, more Rondo, more of the same. It mightn't be so bad if it's Playoffs Rondo, but it seems like that's asking too much over the course of an entire season. In all fairness, I suppose that is kind of hard to achieve when your role constantly changes, and you're racking up DNP-CDs.

Anyway, here's hoping they can do something in free agency. Again, I'd prefer shrewd moves to supposedly spectacular ones, or nabbing players that would've been great signings five years ago.
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Andrew on Thu May 04, 2017 10:25 am

I'll let Brian Griffin express my feelings on that trade.

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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby air gordon on Thu May 04, 2017 11:29 am

If rondo and Wade are back, it does cut significantly into what they can do in free agency

Also Niko will come back barring some crazy contract offer and it makes sense to bring back felecio.

Cap guys could check this but I think that leaves them in the neighborhood of $10million to throw at a fa.

Btw I think it's hilarious that pax was ripping Niko for playing for Spain in the summer, citing it kept him from working out with the team while butler was doing the same thing for team USA
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Andrew on Thu May 04, 2017 11:39 am

air gordon wrote:Btw I think it's hilarious that pax was ripping Niko for playing for Spain in the summer, citing it kept him from working out with the team while butler was doing the same thing for team USA


Are you saying Butler shouldn't represent the Good Ol' US of A, comrade? :scold:

But yeah, that's ridiculously hypocritical. Spouting nonsense is what GarPax do best though, and they do it very well.
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Moz The Boz on Thu May 04, 2017 12:58 pm

air gordon wrote:If rondo and Wade are back, it does cut significantly into what they can do in free agency

Also Niko will come back barring some crazy contract offer and it makes sense to bring back felecio.

Cap guys could check this but I think that leaves them in the neighborhood of $10million to throw at a fa.

Forman is expecting that there will be another significant spike on the salary cap so perhaps that's the reason he's confident that they can bring most of them back while assuming getting another serviceable player in the market. They didn't commit that Wade will be back but Rondo will sure be. He's the reason why they will not shake things up and fire Hoiberg. Meaning a backup PG, and not frontcourt depth, is still the priority to assure he'll be healthy all-through out... Blame that 2-0 lead against Boston it make them think that this team is competitive. I reckon Niko is not a sure in re-signee with Paxson, as you mentioned, criticizing his national team commitments and of his constant uttering of the word "inconsistency" in this press conference.
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby air gordon on Thu May 04, 2017 1:42 pm

Too bad it's Wade who has the option instead of the team.

Would they really add another pg after all the talking up of Payne? How pathetic it sounded when pax said he needs to get in shape

Bulls did get a trade exception from the Gibson deal btw
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Andrew on Thu May 04, 2017 1:49 pm

Unless they're completely delusional, they don't have a choice but to shore up the point guard rotation as much as they're able. Payne's demotion to the D-League and their performance after Rondo's injury speak for themselves. Then again, I don't think it would surprise any of us if GarPax weren't listening.
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Moz The Boz on Thu May 04, 2017 2:06 pm

air gordon wrote:Would they really add another pg after all the talking up of Payne?

They did that with Grant and yet they still added MCW and Payne so perhaps they'll get rid of MCW and then sign another one.
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby air gordon on Sat May 06, 2017 2:27 am

yeah mcw was a why not move since they were getting rid of snell. lol and they still lost that trade. i agree mcw is gone.

so rondo, grant, payne, and another PG (via draft or FA)? this is just more shit show business. get a young, modern era pg, please garpax. it's cant be that hard

what position is valentine anyway?
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Andrew on Sat May 06, 2017 10:54 am

Agreed on the MCW trade. It's not like Snell has turned into a star either, and it was probably a situation where he wasn't going to be consistently productive until he went somewhere else. Worth a try.

Looks like Valentine's been listed as a shooting guard. If he can knock down shots more consistently, especially from range, he could be solid off the bench. It seems safe to say he doesn't have the speed to play point guard in the NBA, though.

Had a look at a couple of mock drafts at NBADraft.net and DraftExpress. NBADraft.net has the Bulls taking Ivan Rabb, a slender PF/C who apparently isn't particularly strong and lacks a wide array of post moves, but is athletic and can block shots. He apparently isn't really suitable for "positionless basketball", which is going to be a problem in the NBA these days. DraftExpress has them taking John Collins, a power forward who also lacks some versatility in terms of being able to play centre in a small ball lineup, but he seems to be more polished offensively. It also seems like he's a bit of a sloppy defender, though.

Neither site has outstanding point guards left on the board at the Bulls' pick, so someone would really have to slip for them to get a quality player at that position. Jawun Evans seems to be the one that's going the highest, either late first round or early second round. He's a good distributor and plays bigger than his size, but he's under six foot, not a great athlete, and not a huge three-point threat, which doesn't address their needs. With that in mind, a solid big, or a swingman who can shoot from the outside. The latter also seems like a rarity at the Bulls' pick, though.

So that leaves free agency if they want to add any kind of significant player at point guard. As far as being a solid player and capable from range, Patty Mills is an unrestricted free agent. I'm guessing he'll probably re-up with the Spurs, or sign with someone who can offer him more money than the Bulls, but he might be in their price range and I think he'd be a good option (though there may be a little bias there). Jrue Holiday is the pipe dream, and unlikely now that Rondo's option has been picked up. There's George Hill, but he's already 31, so that isn't ideal.

Those are the moves they're looking at; not a whole lot of options, flexibility, suitability, or indeed, feasibility. Beyond that, they're hoping that Payne or Grant turn into something. Grant might be the more likely scenario there, but I'm not particularly confident either will happen, to say the least.
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Moz The Boz on Sat May 06, 2017 12:49 pm

air gordon wrote:so rondo, grant, payne, and another PG (via draft or FA)? this is just more shit show business. get a young, modern era pg, please garpax.

Forgot about Canaan or probably they treat him more of an SG these days but he'll be a goner as well I reckon. There are reports that saw Rose practicing in the Bulls practice facility last week perhaps he's the one :lol: I'm glad that they didn't pulled that trade for Kris Dunn though it'll probably shorten the GarPax reign if it happened...

Andrew wrote:Looks like Valentine's been listed as a shooting guard. If he can knock down shots more consistently, especially from range, he could be solid off the bench.

He showed some flashes when Wade went down later in the season perhaps he just needs some more playing time to solidify his confidence. His perimeter defense is not that bad nowadays compared to those scouting videos from his college days.

I haven't seen any prospects videos yet but it would be better if they nab a battle tested guy. Ty Lawson is a headache these days but perhaps it'll change when he get out of SacTown. Mills will be great indeed since he doesn't need the ball that much to be effective. Some notable ones are Langston Galloway and Shelvin Mack.
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Andrew on Sat May 06, 2017 12:58 pm

If you can take GarPax at their word, Butler isn't going anywhere. Seeing as how they'd probably give up three non-protected first round picks and take on at least two bad contracts to get the deal done, I'd certainly rather they didn't trade him. Also, the guy is pretty good, so all things considered, good news in that regard...if they're being honest, of course.

I don't have extremely high hopes for Valentine, but there's some promise there. I'm certainly not ready to give up on him, we're not in Snell territory just yet. Let's see what he can do, if anything, with more of a chance. I'd rather keep my expectations low and be pleasantly surprised. Not everyone can be a star, but if he can develop into a solid sixth man or rotation player that can defend adequately enough and make an impact offensively, that helps. We'll see.
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Valor on Sat May 06, 2017 9:23 pm

Moz The Boz wrote:There are reports that saw Rose practicing in the Bulls practice facility last week perhaps he's the one :lol:

I wouldn't mind, he's still an instant upgrade over what we have right now despite his injuries and bad outside shooting, actually looked pretty darn explosive this season and was finishing inside before his meniscus tear.

Andrew wrote:If you can take GarPax at their word

Yep, thats a big if :lol: :lol: :lol:

Andrew wrote:I don't have extremely high hopes for Valentine

I never had any hopes for him in the first place so if he can turn into even a 7-9th man thats good for a couple of buckets off the bench it'll be good news.
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby air gordon on Sun May 07, 2017 1:58 am

let me know if i'm off here, but i don't think anyone they will draft will make a difference. as long they are drafting in the late lottery, they will be lucky just to get a solid rotation player. it blows my mind why management wants to continue this way. they even admitted the draft position they have is a tough spot to find a good player but that's due to own their lack of direction they keep the franchise in smh

they have a bunch of young guys but do you guys think any of them can be a starter in this league? management spit this crap of we need to develop our young "talent" and when they are really garbage.

that being said (lol), guess it's nice to start looking at the prospects. i saw the zach collins kid play a few times in the ncaa tourney. nice post up and face up game and provided some good interior defense. any thoughts on the aussie ferguson?

i'd like to see valentine get some run too. too bad really Wade is still on the team eating a lot of minutes on the wing.

i'd like them to find the long term answer at pg already. rondo's ok but its just short term. rondo somehow has made himself a fixture to this team. im thinking this is because of poor coaching and a dearth of incompetent pgs management assembled.

you gotta be kidding about rose. you are one sick sadistic dude

i don't think management will trade Butler.
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Postby Andrew on Sun May 07, 2017 2:23 am

Yeah, admittedly I'm not familiar with the prospects I mentioned (besides the bit of research through the scouting reports I read), but I'm not expecting too much of anyone they draft this year. Sometimes good players slip, and it's not unheard of for later picks to become solid players or even stars in the league - just look at Isaiah Thomas - but conventional wisdom says it's more likely they get someone with a low ceiling. You can get lucky sometimes and nab a Jimmy Butler, but the lower you go, the more likely you are to get a Tony Snell. With their pick, I'd settle for a Taj Gibson; they could do worse. I'd like them to make the best pick possible (i.e. a player who has some chance of being something), but I'm not getting my hopes up either. Doesn't look like there's a whole lot they can do.
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Postby air gordon on Sun May 07, 2017 2:56 am

you're not selling much hope, Andrew

settle? seriously if they got a taj gibson player that would be like hitting the lottery for them.

based on Randy Quaid i mean Forman's and Pax draft history, they pick someone from a notable college program with some experience. if not that then someone who has connections with Forman (ie new mexico state or iowa state).

do you think any of the current young guys on the roster can be a starter in this league????
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Postby Andrew on Sun May 07, 2017 11:00 am

Not much hope on the shelves, or back in the stock room, sadly. Stocks are very limited, get it while it lasts.

"Settle" probably came across as being more negative than I intended. A Gibson-like player at that pick would be a fine selection. Hoping for anything more is expecting too much though, and even hoping for that is arguably bordering on wishful thinking. It's at least more feasible, I suppose. The bigs those mock drafts have the Bulls taking might be alright. Nothing to get too excited about, but maybe the best move possible at that spot.

The only player I think might have a shot is Valentine, and I don't think that's a sure thing by any means. They've got the youth, but as for as the skill and potential to get even better...yeah, kind of an important part that GarPax is overlooking there.
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Valor on Sun May 07, 2017 5:11 pm

air gordon wrote:you gotta be kidding about rose. you are one sick sadistic dude

I was indeed kidding, but if it's mediocre we want then I'll rather have the hometown hero instead of Rondo and his posse of shit PGs like Cameron Payne.

Not much hope for the draft, we are drafting just outside the lottery where we will be paying high first round rookie wages to what will almost certainly be a mediocre player who may or may not make the rotation. Surely we aren't going to luck out again with a Butler or Gibson, I don't have that much faith in GarPax's drafting abilities after they took Marquis Teague over Draymond Green just to spite Thibs.
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Postby Andrew on Sun May 07, 2017 9:25 pm

Teague over Green was a kick in the nuts, no doubt.
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Postby Valor on Sun May 07, 2017 9:50 pm

Andrew wrote:Teague over Green was a kick in the nuts, no doubt.

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Postby air gordon on Mon May 08, 2017 2:21 am

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air gordon wrote:you gotta be kidding about rose. you are one sick sadistic dude

I was indeed kidding, but if it's mediocre we want then I'll rather have the hometown hero instead of Rondo and his posse of shit PGs like Cameron Payne.

Not much hope for the draft, we are drafting just outside the lottery where we will be paying high first round rookie wages to what will almost certainly be a mediocre player who may or may not make the rotation. Surely we aren't going to luck out again with a Butler or Gibson, I don't have that much faith in GarPax's drafting abilities after they took Marquis Teague over Draymond Green just to spite Thibs.

had me to going there for a bit lol. I have a Payne jersey on pre order.

since Butler has been picked back in 2011 management hasn't hit on a draft pick.

Andrew wrote: They've got the youth, but as for as the skill and potential to get even better...yeah, kind of an important part that GarPax is overlooking there.

its like they have their arms up in the air and saying "what else can we do? we won't make any trades and we put ourselves in a cap situation where we can't make any significant moves via free agency ... so we may as well just develop the garbage we drafted. i love job security".
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Postby Andrew on Mon May 08, 2017 11:35 am

What's the best case scenario for the offseason? With everyone opting in/being picked up, and given the position in the Draft, I think it's basically draft someone with some semblance of skill and promise (who probably won't have an impact right away anyway), and sign a player that's reasonably solid (or at least, not terrible) but also unlikely to change their fortunes very much. In other words, nothing terrible, but nothing particularly amazing, either.

As has been noted before, when the best case scenario is that they simply don't make a huge mistake, or do anything significant enough to mess things up...well, that's a low bar. Sadly, it's hard to see them being able to accomplish much else.
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Moz The Boz on Mon May 08, 2017 1:38 pm

Valor wrote:
Moz The Boz wrote:There are reports that saw Rose practicing in the Bulls practice facility last week perhaps he's the one :lol:

I wouldn't mind, he's still an instant upgrade over what we have right now despite his injuries and bad outside shooting, actually looked pretty darn explosive this season and was finishing inside before his meniscus tear.

I'll pretend that you're not kidding with that reply :wink: :wink: He loves the surgery table that boy...

air gordon wrote:do you think any of the current young guys on the roster can be a starter in this league????

I reckon Mirotic can be if he get his head into it. He's one of the "young guys" right?

air gordon wrote:since Butler has been picked back in 2011 management hasn't hit on a draft pick.

They would've if they kept Nurkic and Harris....

Andrew wrote:What's the best case scenario for the offseason?

The Reinsdorfs will be involve in a Donald Sterling kind of scandal and the league will force them to sell the team
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby air gordon on Tue May 09, 2017 12:31 am

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Andrew wrote:What's the best case scenario for the offseason?

The Reinsdorfs will be involve in a Donald Sterling kind of scandal and the league will force them to sell the team

Nominee for quote of the year. We still do these?

Yeah maybe Niko is a starter. Not sold yet

Smh nurk and Harris
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby air gordon on Thu May 18, 2017 1:56 am

draft express has duke SG luke kennard at the bulls pick.
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Postby Andrew on Thu May 18, 2017 2:41 am

Re-read some of the scouting reports on him. Sounds like he's a decent three-point shooter and can finish inside as well, though he's not a tremendous athlete. Good basketball IQ, passing, and dribbling skills have also been mentioned. He doesn't exactly suit the "athletic" part of "young and athletic", but considering they could really use more three-point shooting, he could be a solid pick. Maybe one of the more suitable players who could still be available at 16.
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby air gordon on Thu May 18, 2017 5:59 am

im always skeptical of duke players. bunch of all americans playing on one team killing the comp.

he reminds of joel ingles right or wrong which i would be fine with.

one prospect who fits the bill as young and athletic is donovan mitchell. freakish athleticism, long arms, built like a bull.
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Postby Valor on Thu May 18, 2017 6:53 am

Not a great athlete with a wingspan shorter than his height, can't play defense. Yeah, sounds like a GarPax pick for Hoiball.

air gordon wrote:he reminds of joel ingles

I think you're on the right track, I'd say a poor man's Joe Ingles. Definitely can shoot, has improved a lot but I don't see him becoming a top shooter in the mold of Korver or JJ Redick so....not a fan, we have more pressing needs.
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby air gordon on Thu May 18, 2017 9:37 am

certainly has the makings of a garpax pick. strong college program, can shoot, limited upside.

his perimeter skillset i could get on board with but if he's limited on defense then ADIOS!

i have this sinking feeling ever since the tyrus thomas trade, management is afraid to take the chance on an upside player

then again we're picking at 16. the franchise savior won't be found there.
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Postby Andrew on Thu May 18, 2017 11:24 am

Who's the better pick at 16 then? One of the bigs I mentioned earlier, maybe?
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Moz The Boz on Thu May 18, 2017 1:57 pm

air gordon wrote:draft express has duke SG luke kennard at the bulls pick.
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Andrew wrote:Re-read some of the scouting reports on him. Sounds like he's a decent three-point shooter and can finish inside as well, though he's not a tremendous athlete. Good basketball IQ, passing, and dribbling skills have also been mentioned.

Spot on with the Ingles comparison perhaps a little Nick Stauskus there as well but just like AG suggested, the Bulls don't need another Doug McDermott...

one prospect who fits the bill as young and athletic is donovan mitchell. freakish athleticism, long arms, built like a bull.

Sam Smith thought so as well. Reminds me of a young Eric Gordon a big plus if he can play both guards position so that this PG quest would finally end...

They worked out Hamidou Diallo earlier this week. From first look, ceiling as high as Andrew Wiggins and low as Wesley Johnson. Freakish athlete with a midrange game. If you think Mitchell is too small, he's your guy. For bigs, from what I saw with the suggestions of who the Bulls should pick, there's Justin Patton, John Collins, Jarrett Allen, Bam Adebayo, and Harry Giles. Giles would've been the top choice for me but he has 2 knee surgeries already so I'll go with Adebayo.
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Lamrock on Thu May 18, 2017 2:10 pm

Often times you see fans and pundits pose the question, "Could (whoever the best college team happens to be) beat (whoever the worst NBA team happens to be... usually the Sixers)". Obviously the bad NBA team would win (unless it counted in the standings), but maybe the Bulls want to find out for sure. College coach, college players, college system? Next thing you know the Bulls players will be taking mandatory Swahili classes. Chicago native and Bulls fan Kanye West said it best with his line "they be ballin' in the D-League. I be speakin' Swaghili"

Wait, what were we taking about? Lavar Ball?
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby air gordon on Thu May 18, 2017 2:50 pm

If they go big I like Collins. Reminds me of a more fluid taj Gibson and looks like he shares the same mean streak and physicality

Gotta love those outdoor games bam was playing in. I'd rank him 2nd and ahead of those agile but soft centers


I like the diallo upside. Looks like he has a better scoring feel for the game albeit against high comp in those vids than Mitchell. I like both guys versatility on the perimeter. I do see a little Marcus smart in Mitchell. Both the bad and good.

Should do more digging but initially I like Mitchell, diallo, bam in that order
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Postby Andrew on Thu May 18, 2017 2:53 pm

Alright, we have some viable candidates. Who's the worst possible player they could pick at 16? Because, you know, that could easily happen, despite the aforementioned names still being available. :lol:
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Moz The Boz on Thu May 18, 2017 4:10 pm

air gordon wrote:If they go big I like Collins. Reminds me of a more fluid taj Gibson and looks like he shares the same mean streak and physicality

He has issues with his defense so I'm not too fond of him Bam just need some polish on his offense but he's ready to go I reckon.

Andrew wrote:Alright, we have some viable candidates. Who's the worst possible player they could pick at 16?

If they go for a wingman Kennard (because he's the type of player they usually pick nowadays) and for a bigman Patton (because he's from Creighton?)

Forgot to mention about their meeting with De'Aaron Fox. Outside of Butler, I don't know who else could be baited so they can move up the draft board to acquire him. Or perhaps they just assume that teams will pass on him because he's just potentially be another Elfrid Payton.
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