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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Andrew on Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:10 pm

Grizzlies Explore Trading No. 4 Pick To Unload Chandler Parsons

The Memphis Grizzlies have explored the possibility of packaging the contract of Chandler Parsons along with the No. 4 overall pick.

Parsons is owed $49.2 million over the next two seasons.

Parsons has missed a combined 94 games over the past two seasons since signing a four-year max contract with the Grizzlies in 2016.

A rebuilding team with cap space could absorb Parsons' contract to add a high draft pick.


The fourth pick is tempting; Parsons' contract, not so much. It might be an acceptable drawback though, depending on what else is involved in the deal. I'm assuming if the Bulls were to throw their hat into the ring, they'd have to include their pick. Realistically, I don't see the Bulls being able to work out a deal where they end up with both picks, as the Grizzlies (rightfully) would want to trade down to get rid of Parsons, not take themselves out of the lottery altogether...unless they're really desperate to shed that contract and have no other takers, I suppose. He does only have a couple of years left and the Bulls are going to be rebuilding through the Draft rather than free agency anyway, so I could get on board with that move if they're in a position to make it.
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby air gordon on Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:30 am

as long as they keep their 7th pick, i'd be open to take on the salary for the 4th pick. getting JJJ and Bridges would be grrreat, tony

Thoughts on the bulls to continue to rebuild through the draft after this year? Even with lavine missing most of the season and tanking post all star break, the “best” they got was a coin flip with sacto for the 7th spot.

i think i may be in favor of keeping some salary flexibility, to go after someone like Favors or Herzonja.
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Andrew on Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:46 am

I feel like it's inevitable they continue to rebuild through the Draft, even if they had the cap space to go after a big name. I know that was then and this is now, but they just don't seem to be able to land the big names through free agency, and end up settling for less than they should. Their best players usually come via the Draft, or sometimes a trade that pans out. Maybe taking on Parsons' contract would be a blessing in disguise; they wouldn't have cap space to waste on another disappointing free agent signing!

All that being said, it's a fair point that if they're healthy (and the flashes of brilliance from the young players weren't a fluke), they're likely going to be better this coming season, which doesn't help the whole "rebuild through the Draft" approach. They haven't bottomed out enough to do what the 76ers did, and probably won't from here on out. They'd probably have to find a way to trade up in subsequent years, while holding onto the players they don't want to let slip (right now, that's probably just Markkanen).

Overpaying for someone like Favors is arguably better than weathering Parsons' contract, though I'd say the Wizards have provided the league with a cautionary tale about overpaying to be mediocre. That's the pitfall to avoid, and it's what concerns me when I look back at some of the Bulls' free agent signings over the years. I just don't want to see them do the current era's equivalent of signing a Ron Mercer or Ben Wallace (especially the latter).
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby air gordon on Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:06 am

Fair points. Not sure if it’s the way to go if they are picking from say 7 to late lottery range from here out

The last legit rebuild (not counting the ping pong ball bounce for Rose) Pax did was centered around the draft picks of hinrich, deng, gordon. While that was a nice story, that wasn’t a legit contender.

I’m not saying “overpay” for Favors but players like him are good targets. He’s just 26, he can play, and it’s possible utah won’t keep him around. Nvm the big star, i want them to be in the running for these type of players

I’m not really familiar with the Wiz situation. Mahimi has been a bust and jason smith has been useless. The circumstances of how Wall, Beal, Porter got their contracts...not sure. Do you consider those overpays?
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby shadowgrin on Sat Jun 16, 2018 6:40 am

Porter is definitely an overpay. Wizards shouldn’t have matched and instead let him go to the Nets.
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Andrew on Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:08 am

Yeah, Porter's the worst contract of the bunch, though Wall and Beal are set to be paid like Steph Curry and Klay Thompson, which isn't great either.
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby air gordon on Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:16 am

Ha Porter makes more than those 2. Wall did have a mvp type season 2 yrs back. Regardless, I don't see Favor getting that money
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Andrew on Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:50 am

True, I don't think the Bulls would (or for that matter, actually could) offer him that much. Offering Portis a Porter-like extension is probably the more realistic and therefore concerning scenario, though to be fair, I don't think they'd do that. I can see them extending his contract, but cheaper than Porter.
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Andrew on Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:49 am

Wendell Carter it is. I'm still OK with that, let's see how it pans out.

Incidentally, I could've sworn I saw his name used for a generated rookie in NBA Live all those years ago. Not as good as Alan Mutombo or Hakeem Johnson, though.
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Moz The Boz on Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:25 pm

Relieved they picked Carter and not tempted to pick MPJ. Pick #22 looks like a stud (averaging 20 7 and 3). Long arms, can create his own shots, and from what I saw in the video, his motor can match up to that of Portis.

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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Andrew on Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:51 pm

They seem like a couple of solid picks, worth taking a gamble on. No objections here.
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby air gordon on Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:08 am

i give the draft a B

Carter does have a nice skillset to match Lauri. he does resemble marlow stansfield from the wire to me.... his college coach has a long history of not developing blue chip big men, specifically on defense, so i still have my reservations on Carter. but hey the kid's just 19 so he could be an outlier in the regard

pick #22 was ok. the dude was killing it in a mid major conference. some of those guys look like rec league comp lol. decent success rate for 4yr players drafted late 1st round and after

will keep an eye on MPJ. seems like that kid did all he could to get drafted by chicago. even the shaky medical staff didnt want to take that on.
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