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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Jeffx on Sat Jul 08, 2017 7:40 am

Over the next four years, 35% of the Knicks cap flexibility is tied up in the Noah & Hardaway contracts.

The Bulls look like geniuses compared to the Knicks.

This smells like Steve Mills making a move to impress Dolan.....way to go.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby mp3 on Tue Jul 11, 2017 1:07 am

The Hardaway signing felt like the episode of The Big Bang Theory when Leonard bought a time machine.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby air gordon on Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:01 am

To be fair, THJ can put the ball in the hoop in variety of ways, has shown improvement on defense, and young/injury free

If he turns out like CJ McCollum, it's a great contract
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby mp3 on Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:22 am

In theory yes but he's not a 70 million dollar man, Iam not upset at the signing but that price tag to a player you traded away is shocking, Allan Crabb type shocking
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby air gordon on Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:00 am

Ah fair enough. Trying to be optimistic

Looking at the contracts so far for sgs, Id agree its high. Prolly should be closer to what waiters got
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Postby mp3 on Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:28 am

Exactly, he was a bench role player with the hawks not a starter putting up border line allstar numbers
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Jeffx on Tue Jul 11, 2017 7:44 am

There's no point in being a Knicks fan with James Dolan and his puppets Steve Mills & Allan Houston in charge. Dolan is the WORST owner in professional sports....what a disgrace.....no light at the end of the tunnel.

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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby shadowgrin on Tue Jul 11, 2017 8:02 pm

Don't go towards the light Jeffx!
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby [Q] on Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:13 am

Worst sports team owner?
Dolan
Sterling
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Cleveland Browns owner
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Sauru on Wed Jul 12, 2017 8:22 am

dolan has to be worse than sterling. i am not saying sterling is good but he is running the JV team of LA while dolan has the fucking knicks. NY is the capitol of the world and he is just straight up shitting on fans with what he has done to this team
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Jeffx on Wed Jul 12, 2017 8:24 am

No one from the front office bothered to show up at Hardaway Jr.'s press conference. What a f-n joke.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Andrew on Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:52 am

Sauru wrote:dolan has to be worse than sterling. i am not saying sterling is good but he is running the JV team of LA while dolan has the fucking knicks. NY is the capitol of the world and he is just straight up shitting on fans with what he has done to this team


It's a tough call. Sterling's bigotry makes him the worse person, but from all accounts, Dolan's hardly a paragon of grace and virtue either (though it seems he's at least not comfortably racist). Additionally, Sterling is gone and Dolan is still around, holding back a once-proud franchise that is a charter member of the BAA/NBA and the biggest market in the league and country. It's hard to pick against the racist in a competition of the worst, but since he's still an owner and a terrible one at that, Dolan "wins" by default.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Jeffx on Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:33 am

So now most of the Knicks cap space is tied up with Hardaway, Ron Baker & Noah......wonderful.

2 years, 8.9mil for Baker - you can't make this stuff up, Andrew.......If I wasn't a Knick fan, I'd laugh at how inept the front office is. It's not about establishing a consistent winning culture - it's about cronyism. You think any GM (or top free agent) worth a damn wants to come here and deal with the toxic culture at the Garden? So the franchise is stuck with Steve Mills.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Andrew on Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:10 am

I just had to look up Ron Baker to see who that was, which I guess serves as an apt appraisal of that signing.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Jeffx on Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:37 am

Knicks hired a new puppet, I mean, GM:

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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby [Q] on Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:40 am

A former Kings executive? Nice to see the Knicks want to keep their culture of dysfunction
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Andrew on Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:29 am

Sounds like he's a decent hire by his own merits, but won't have an opportunity to have a positive impact.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Jeffx on Sat Jul 15, 2017 12:09 am

Andrew wrote:Sounds like he's a decent hire by his own merits, but won't have an opportunity to have a positive impact.


Exactly, because Mills has final say on all basketball decisions. So it'll be business as usual at the Garden. That's why Griffin said no thanks.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Andrew on Sat Jul 15, 2017 2:44 am

Carmelo Anthony, Rival Teams Dismayed By Knicks Pulling Him From Trade Talks

The New York Knicks' decision to pull Carmelo Anthony off the trade block has led all sides to be frustrated. The Knicks were involved in four-team trade talks with Anthony expected to be dealt to the Houston Rockets.

Steve Mills is having second thoughts about a trade now that they're on the verge of hiring Scott Perry as general manager. Mills wants to give Perry a chance to settle into his new job before a decision is made on Anthony.

"That's crazy," a source told the News. "From what I understand Carmelo is under the belief that he's going to the Rockets. That's what the Knicks have been telling us; that they're trading him. I can't imagine that after all he went though last season with Phil (Jackson) he's happy with this."

Anthony agreed to waive his no-trade clause for the Rockets and has been preparing for that move for nearly two weeks.

Anthony is said to be dismayed over the events of the past 24 hours.

According to a source, Anthony went to the Knicks prior to the NBA Draft and requested a buyout. With that request denied, Phil Jackson said they would try to accommodate a trade.


Wow. That's really bush league.

Look, say what you will about Melo, it's not as though there aren't legitimate criticisms that you can make about his game. However, he's a 14-year veteran who's been a very good player in the league, a multi-time All-Star and key player for Team USA. He's endured tough seasons and dysfunction with the Knicks, and done as much he can, given his abilities. He's earned the right to be treated with a lot more respect than that.

It's in the Knicks' best interests to do so, too. It's not a good look, and only adds to a dysfunctional, toxic atmosphere. Building a winning team requires good moves, sure, but it helps to be a first class organisation where morale is high, and top players, coaches, and front office personnel want to go. Not to get into the comparisons again, but it's a similar situation in Chicago. Neither team's front office carries itself well, or cultivates a positive culture. Things like this simply do not help.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Axel. on Sat Jul 15, 2017 3:17 am

Even after shit hit the fan with Phil Jackson, it's just continuing to pile up again. I think the whole giving Perry "a chance to settle into his new job" is a bullshit excuse. What does it matter if, as Jeffx said above, Mills will make the final decision anyway? Or maybe I'm just salty because it would've been nice to have Melo complete the "Super Team" Rockets.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby benji on Sat Jul 15, 2017 3:59 am

why do they keep giving these guys five year deals lol
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Jeffx on Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:58 pm

Axel. wrote:Even after shit hit the fan with Phil Jackson, it's just continuing to pile up again. I think the whole giving Perry "a chance to settle into his new job" is a bullshit excuse. What does it matter if, as Jeffx said above, Mills will make the final decision anyway? Or maybe I'm just salty because it would've been nice to have Melo complete the "Super Team" Rockets.



I am just FED-UP past the limit with this organization. Instead of hiring knowledgeable basketball people, the lowlife, POS scumbag owner hires his f-n cronies. Steve Mills has final say over personnel decisions, and we've seen what a wonderful job he's done. Nothing's ever going to change at MSG......does anyone really think this current regime can get this sh*t-stain franchise to where it was during the 90s or the 70s?

What's the use?
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby shadowgrin on Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:57 am

I like how the Knicks turned Jeffx into a broken man.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Jeffx on Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:02 pm

shadowgrin wrote:I like how the Knicks turned Jeffx into a broken man.


Not completely broken.....my football team (Giants) have won four Super Bowls since 1986. Their ownership knows how to run a professional franchise.

James Dolan also owns the Rangers, and they've been a consistent winner. Unlike the Knicks, Dolan doesn't interfere with the management. He admitted he doesn't know hockey, but he thinks he knows basketball.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Sauru on Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:34 am

Jeffx wrote:
Not completely broken.....my football team (Giants) have won four Super Bowls since 1986. Their ownership knows how to run a professional franchise.

hey. fuck you
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby NovU on Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:05 am

So the Knicks refuse to ship Porzingis for Kyrie. In the meantime, Melo is demanding to be traded to the Rockets. Fun offseason continues. :applaud:
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Jackal on Fri Jul 28, 2017 7:49 am

Kyrie Irving Reportedly Wants Trade to New York Knicks 'Very Badly'


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2724 ... very-badly

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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Jeffx on Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:29 am

Porzingis for Kyrie makes no sense. The idea is to have them play together. And how does trading Porzingis for Kyrie make the Knicks better? It's a stupid trade.

Knicks are always looking for a big-time savior.......how has it worked out for them the past 16 years? Just rebuild the smart way.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby mp3 on Sun Aug 06, 2017 9:24 pm

KP looked good for team World the other night, definitely looks bigger and stronger. Good to see him working good out with Dirk too
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby NovU on Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:08 am

Melo doesn't wanna go to the Cavs?

I think that kinda confirms LeBron is seriously considering to leave the Cavs. Melo wouldn't wanna be stuck in the shit city all alone.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Sauru on Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:59 am

lebron is 100% out in cleveland next season. i feel like melo not wanting to go to the cavs is him saying "why leave 1 fucked up front office for another"
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Andrew on Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:04 am

He ultimately spurned the Bulls a couple of years ago, too. Say what you will about his shortcomings as a player, but at least he recognises a dysfunctional situation when he sees it.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby NovU on Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:30 pm

Seemingly 3rd team not showing up to take on Ryan Anderson's contract is the only thing that's stopping Melo to become a Rocket for now.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby mp3 on Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:54 pm

60 million over 3 years for Ryan Anderson is pretty stupid for a player who can't play a lick of defence but saying that we just did the same signing THj, it's no wonder no team wants to take on that contract even if he is what the modern nba stands for... A 3 point shooting big...
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby NovU on Tue Aug 15, 2017 5:17 pm

What do you guys think of Michael Beasley signing? He's a #2 overall pick from awhile ago but he's in prime at age of 28.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby mp3 on Tue Aug 15, 2017 5:24 pm

Low risk high reward.

He's settled down over the years to become a decent roll player, I expect him to have the same impact that Derrick Williams had a couple of years ago with the knicks
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Jeffx on Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:18 am

I hope the Knicks aren't serious about trading Porzingis so they can unload Noah's contract. Unfortunately, it's something their clueless front office would do.

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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Andrew on Thu Aug 17, 2017 10:11 am

No question. Porzingas and Irving together? Interesting prospect. Irving in, Porzingas out? Not as appealing.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby mp3 on Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:28 pm

KP is off limits, only Phil would of traded him to off load one of his mistakes in Noah but from what I've seen Phil wanted to trade KP and Noah for the number one pick so he could draft Lonzo Ball.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby air gordon on Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:15 am

Mp3
Who won our bet?

I think Noah will have a bounce back year. That dude is too prideful to just cash it in. I hope he gets in a rhythm/gains his confidence back
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Andrew on Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:28 am

Doesn't Noah still have some games to serve on his suspension?

He's got the pride, the talent, and the basketball smarts, but can he remain healthy enough? It seems his injuries are chronic at this point, sadly.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Andrew on Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:15 am

Great mindset, and classic Noah. Again though, it all comes down to the body being as strong as the mind, and sadly he's become pretty banged up over the course of his career.
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