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Postby Jeffx on Sat Sep 23, 2017 6:11 am

Andrew wrote:Do you think he'll be traded by the deadline? Even with Phil Jackson gone, it seems like there's a pretty big rift between him and the organisation.



I doubt it if Carmelo's sticks to his guns about Houston. He holds the cards.


UPDATE - Carmelo to OKC for Kanter, McDerrmont and a draft pick. How about that Andrew?
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Postby air gordon on Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:26 am

Saw some nyk media vids/ pics. Joakim looks ripped.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby mp3 on Wed Sep 27, 2017 5:25 am

Tim Hardaway too.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Jeffx on Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:27 am

At least they'll look good while sucking....30 wins tops.
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Postby air gordon on Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:12 am

Do nyk fans like the thj ant more or less now that Anthony is gone

I'm thinking the bulls and Knicks may be vying for worst pg rotation in the league
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Postby mp3 on Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:15 pm

I think we need a few games under our belt before deciding on timmy, it's his D that I always had issues with before
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Stress Fracture on Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:34 am

benji wrote:LeBron is such a choker. And people were talking about him as an all-time great. As having possibly surpassed Kobe. What a joke.

velvet bliss wrote:Andrew, you the real MVP.

Andrew wrote:He who flops and flails to the Finals and a title, flops and flails best.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby mp3 on Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:22 am

I don't disagree with what's being said on the subway, I wouldn't of signed Hardaway at that price, I like many was optimistic that Noah had an off year the season before and would be better sure but it is what it is. It's New York's version of a rebuild
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Jeffx on Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:20 am



"Hopeless" is a perfect description of this garbage franchise.....bad owner, crap front office, clueless team president.

$72 mil for Joakim Noah, $71 mil for Tim Hardaway Jr........smh
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Jeffx on Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:55 pm

I love this quote from Stefan Bondy in today's Daily News;

"It's hypocritical for Perry and president Steve Mills to declare defense as central to their new identity, and then acquire Tim Hardaway Jr., Michael Beasley, Enes Kanter and Doug McDermott. Sunday's 117-83 embarrassing preseason defeat to the Nets served as a reminder of the possibilities for New York's putridness."


....same ol' Knicks.

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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby mp3 on Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:47 am

Knicks will get a high draft pick next summer that's for sure.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Andrew on Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:34 am

With Isiah Thomas long gone from the front office, they'll actually hold onto it instead of giving it to the Bulls, too.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby shadowgrin on Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:42 am

lol at D'Antoni playing Harden until the final buzzer of a preseason game vs the Knicks. He's still mad being fired by the Knicks.

Good to see Beasley is still a blackhole on offense.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby mp3 on Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:08 pm

My only concern right now is the durability of our young players, Frank and KP just seem to pick up injury after injury
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Jeffx on Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:34 am

The way these clowns play defense, they'll be lucky to win 20 games. Pitiful.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Andrew on Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:35 pm

Obviously no longer an issue now that he's gone, but further examples of how Phil Jackson wasn't exactly the best fit for the Knicks: Knicks Rumors: Phil Jackson Stunned Free Agents with Lack of Preparation as GM

"I heard some horror stories about Phil in presentation situations with players – unprepared, just disorganized. And sometimes, he’d have Steve Mills in there, who'd try to re-direct him. But I know of a couple players who walked out of meetings in a couple different free-agent scenarios and, 'Wow, that was Phil Jackson? That's not how I imagined he'd be.'"


After the trade deadline passed on Feb. 23, Frank Isola of the New York Daily News said one NBA general manager told him his team "can't get a hold of Phil. It's crazy."

ESPN NBA analyst Jay Williams said prior to the draft in June that a top prospect told him Jackson was "falling in and out of sleep" during the player's workout.


Stuff like that makes me think that Phil took the job because he always wanted to be involved with the Knicks in some capacity, but by the time the opportunity came about, he was getting on in years and he just couldn't make the necessary commitment. Understandable, but it did mean he took the Knicks' money to do a half-hearted job (at least in some respects).

Again, obviously what's done is done and he's gone now, but I think it demonstrates that despite some of his better moves here and there, it was definitely time for them to part ways. The front office may still stuck, but the Knicks need someone who's all in, and that wasn't Jax.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Jeffx on Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:35 pm

Andrew, Phil Jackson sold James Dolan, the Knicks organization and fan base a bill of goods. We all cheered when he was hired - we felt someone with his pedigree would finally end the dysfunction at MSG. We thought he'd do for NY what Pat Riley did for Miami. Boy, were we wrong. Phil added to the chaos - he had no idea on how to be a GM.

Not firing him before the draft is going to haunt this franchise. I think Smith was the way to go.
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Postby [Q] on Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:29 am

Yup seems like he basically sold people on his name

I'm sure he wanted to do a good job and meant well, but he didn't want to do what what was necessary to do a good job
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Andrew on Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:00 am

Had he taken the job years ago, maybe it would've been a different story. As it is, it seems he was too close to stepping away and enjoying his retirement to go all in. Fair enough given his age and long tenure in the NBA, but the Knicks needed more of him.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby shadowgrin on Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:54 am

He was more concerned of forcing the triangle upon the coach than managing the team.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby cavs4872 on Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:26 am

Why in the hell do the Knicks have a national TV game on Thursday, like "Yeah, we're featuring this team"?
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Jeffx on Sun Oct 22, 2017 1:17 am

Knicks are downright ugly, and Hornacek has no idea what he's doing. Willy only played in garbage time but Ron Baker gets 20 minutes???? Baker should be in G-League.

Hornacek says Willy has to work on his D.....the whole team sucks on defense, especially the $70 million dollar man , THJ.

Fire Hornacek and hire Mark Jackson already.
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Postby shadowgrin on Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:59 pm

Ron Baker's the GOAT, Jeffx. Don't hate, appreciate.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Jeffx on Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:00 pm

Knicks are a hot mess already, lol. Meanwhile, Dennis Smith Jr. had 19 points, 5 assists and 1 rebound in last night's win over Memphis. Our 1st round pick can't even get on the court without hurting something.


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Postby air gordon on Fri Oct 27, 2017 1:19 am

surprised dsj pulled that off against a strong defensive team in memphis. waiting for hardaway jr to heat up
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Postby Dee4Three on Fri Oct 27, 2017 1:32 am

Ron Baker belongs on a 70 or 80's show, like The Wonder Years.

Meanwhile, the Knicks apparently are not paying attention in practice and don't know the plays. You wonder if Hornacek is a big softie and doesn't have control of his team. If you are running practices where players are just screwing around and not paying attention, I question if you have lost control or ever had any.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/knicks-courtney-lee-says-some-players-dont-know-plays-need-to-pay-more-attention/

Porzingis looked sloppy and lost in the loss to the C's. He was fumbling so many passes. I understand he puts up big scoring games, but every game I have ever watched him play in he is underwhelming.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby mp3 on Fri Oct 27, 2017 2:47 am

The knicks are what I expect them to be, a losing rebuilding team. Iam frustrated that the rookie appears to be made of glass but the rest of it is what I expected.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Jeffx on Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:08 am

mp3 wrote:The knicks are what I expect them to be, a losing rebuilding team. Iam frustrated that the rookie appears to be made of glass but the rest of it is what I expected.


...and yet, idiots will fill MSG to watch this sh*t-show. Sixteen years of this crap and no end in sight.
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Postby mp3 on Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:26 pm

One of the biggest problems we have had with rebuilding is the fans, they might fill the seats but they don't want to see a lottery team play so call for quick fix trades or for someone to get fired.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Jeffx on Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:15 am

I'm sick of Hardaway Jr. already. He breaks off plays, looks off teammates to jack up bad shots, pouts, has poor closeouts on shooters and many times hardly makes an effort to fight through picks. He hasn't matured at all.
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Postby shadowgrin on Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:15 pm

He's the perfect Knicks player then.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby air gordon on Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:15 am

mp3 wrote:One of the biggest problems we have had with rebuilding is the fans, they might fill the seats but they don't want to see a lottery team play so call for quick fix trades or for someone to get fired.

would you say a lot of the attendance is due to it being a tourist attraction? even up to now, out of towners ask me to bring them to the united center to at least see the Jordan statue, sometimes see a basketball game. it's fairly easy to get a cheap tickets from 2nd party sites as well
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby mp3 on Wed Nov 08, 2017 2:31 am

From people I talk too fellow knicks fans who get to go to gets offten say that alot of seats are through corporate companies who let employees go for free when there not wining and dining clients, then you have your hardcores and I think yeah tourist's like myself when in NY would go to as many games as I could despite the record or owners.

I went to 4 games when in Orlando and some of the guys I went with went to 3 knicks games last year when they were there so I guess that plays a big factor.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Andrew on Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:30 pm

I imagine tourism and the general appeal of seeing an NBA game in Madison Square Garden is a factor. Comparing it to the situation AG brought up, I'd probably want to catch a Bulls game at the United Center if I were visiting Chicago. It's obviously not the ideal time to do so given the current state of the team, but I'd still want the experience given the opportunity. It'd be a similar situation with the Knicks. Beyond that, I think it's habit for a lot of long-time supporters. Fans have fanatical devotion, after all. It can be hard to break that. If nothing else, you might just want to see other teams and players live.

With all that being said, the Knicks are actually 6-4 so far in the early stages of the season. It's probably not going to last, but on the bright side, Porzingas is having some huge games.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby air gordon on Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:16 am

But would you want to go to msg or the united center if you lived there? I consider myself a fan but I'm not going there unless it's free or at a considerably big discount.
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Postby Dee4Three on Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:55 am

Watched the Knicks/Hornets game.

That flopping crap Porzingis was pulling in the final few minutes of the game with Dwight guarding him was complete crap. He just kept falling down, and the crowd was going "OHHHHHHHHH" like Howard actually did something. Howard wasn't even playing physical, KP was just being a wimp and trying to get calls, I hate that type of basketball.

However, it was nice to see the Knicks second unit really pull it together in the second half, Hornacek did the right thing by keeping them on the floor for extended minutes. A big three and drive for Porzingis late, and Tim Hardaway Jr hit a big three as well. Nice to see some energy from the fans and players in NY. Tough for some teams to guard Porzingis when he is literally able to put the ball on the floor from the three point line and take 2 steps and be at the hoop. His length is ridiculous.

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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Jeffx on Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:55 am

For all the NY cats, I hope you heard Bernard King on WFAN with Joe & Evan earlier this morning. He was plugging his new book, "Game Face". Great interview....BK talked about his career, and the crap he dealt with (from law enforcement) while in Tennessee. Eye-opening stuff - I have to pick up the book.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Andrew on Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:48 am

air gordon wrote:But would you want to go to msg or the united center if you lived there? I consider myself a fan but I'm not going there unless it's free or at a considerably big discount.


If I'd never seen a game live before, or there was another team or player I really wanted to see when they were in town, possibly. If I were in your position, living there and having caught games live during better times, I think I'd be far less likely to spend money to see this team live.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby mp3 on Sat Nov 11, 2017 2:00 am

I don't care what nba city I was in I'd go to whatever nba team played there I love the game that much and is something I've fancied doing since I read the book "Travelling" by John Nordowl(sp?)
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Postby air gordon on Sat Nov 11, 2017 2:39 am

Fair enough. For me I work too hard to give my money away

Cable and internet is already a pain. Pass on overpriced food and drink and a shitty Bulls team

Granted Il make the drive down to Milwaukee to watch a real nba team play at least once a year ;)
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Postby Jeffx on Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:10 am

LeBron should worry about his own team instead of commenting on the Knicks' first round pick.

Cavs-Knicks tonight at the Garden.

.....and in typical Knick fashion, they're f-n things up by bringing back Noah, only because they were stupid enough give him that insane contract.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Andrew on Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:54 am

Well, when you call yourself The King and get a tattoo declaring yourself as the "Chosen One", humility and keeping your opinions to yourself is probably not your strong suit. ;)
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby SoF'nAwesome on Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:11 pm

I don't follow the Knicks like that, but does Porzingis always flop like a bitch?
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Postby shadowgrin on Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:25 pm

Yes, he's a bitch.
For all the shit things Phil Jackson did to the Knicks it's still no excuse for Porzingis skipping the team exit meeting last season. Not yet Dwight Howard level of bitch but Porzingis is getting there whenever he bitches out when things go bad.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Dee4Three on Wed Nov 15, 2017 5:01 am

SoF'nAwesome wrote:I don't follow the Knicks like that, but does Porzingis always flop like a bitch?


Yes, and hes proud of it.

I watched this game, he flopped all over the place for the final 5 minutes of the game. It was ugly as all hell. Play like a man...

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Postby Sauru on Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:45 am

SoF'nAwesome wrote:I don't follow the Knicks like that, but does Porzingis always flop like a bitch?



i mean as an nba player you are expected to flop like a bitch so if he didnt i would say he is not earning his money
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Postby SoF'nAwesome on Wed Nov 15, 2017 5:44 pm

Sauru wrote:i mean as an nba player you are expected to flop like a bitch so if he didnt i would say he is not earning his money

Yes, but when you wink about it after getting away it becomes a bit more than that. Also, Porzingis is only 22, how do you think this will go as he gets older?
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Postby Sauru on Wed Nov 15, 2017 6:54 pm

SoF'nAwesome wrote:
Sauru wrote:i mean as an nba player you are expected to flop like a bitch so if he didnt i would say he is not earning his money

Yes, but when you wink about it after getting away it becomes a bit more than that. Also, Porzingis is only 22, how do you think this will go as he gets older?



i assume he will get better at it as all the best players do
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Postby hova- on Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:01 am

I do that when playing soccer all the time. You feel contact, you make it look good, ref calls it, you smile at the opponent.

Basketball is mind games and cleverness, not only pure skill.

Being fair is to not voluntarily injure players or going beyond good taste with your trash talk. Not to forget that I really never understood how all these brawls happen. As if phsyical fight has ever solved a conflict (oh well maybe it has, but I just see myself as a rational human who wants to avoid physical altercation)
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Postby Dee4Three on Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:50 am

So fake it until you make it mind set?

So you are okay if a game is decided by a flop? many games are decided by one or two baskets, so if no real contact is made (Or minimal contact that wouldn't be a foul) and a player fakes getting hit and a call is made, you are okay with that? I think that's a cheap way to play and win, or even compete.
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