2017-18 Daily Discussion

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Re: Nba opening night

Postby NovU on Fri Oct 20, 2017 6:36 am

See, my friend dee? Is that "WIN NOW" such an important topic that you wanted to expand on? That is extreme obsession that nobody in their right mind do not want to deal with.

When the Heat's big 3 were first assembled, they were in WIN NOW mode. Cavs upon LBJ return, same thing. KG's Celtics as well. We can go over and over but this is a moot point really, don't you think? WHO DA FUQ REALLY CARES ABOUT WIN NOW MODE RELATIVELY IS THAT WE NEED 100s POSTS TO DEFINE WHAT IT EXACTLY REALLY IS. Now GTFO seriously. :shake:

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Re: Nba opening night

Postby Dee4Three on Fri Oct 20, 2017 6:38 am

NovU wrote:See, my friend dee? Is that "WIN NOW" such an important topic that you wanted to expand on? That is extreme obsession that nobody in their right mind do not want to deal with.

When the Heat's big 3 were first assembled, they were in WIN NOW mode. Cavs upon LBJ return, same thing. KG's Celtics as well. We can go over and over but this is a moot point really, don't you think? Now GTFO seriously. :shake:

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NovU wrote:I said they can contend this year,

Exactly, my friend.


You said I changed my stance, and I didn't.. so that is a lie my friend.

And thanks for the examples and expanding, well done. I see where you were going with that now. I don't agree with the term used in this case, but nice job expanding a bit more.
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Re: Nba opening night

Postby [Q] on Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:04 am

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Re: Nba opening night

Postby Andrew on Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:19 am

Certainly doesn't take the Internet long.
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Re: Nba opening night

Postby Phil89 on Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:36 pm

Westbrook already averaging a triple-double again this season :wink:
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Re: Nba opening night

Postby shadowgrin on Fri Oct 20, 2017 6:35 pm

Shocking turnovers though.
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Re: Nba opening night

Postby SoF'nAwesome on Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:08 pm

shadowgrin wrote:Shocking turnovers though.

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Re: Nba opening night

Postby shadowgrin on Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:37 pm

No you didn't. I'm disgusted with your avatar, that man is dead, taken by the devil.
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Re: Nba opening night

Postby SoF'nAwesome on Sat Oct 21, 2017 1:52 am

Nah man, he followed his heart to defeat the true evil that is LeBron James. Don't hate the hard road and its travelers.
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Re: 2017-18 Daily Discussion

Postby Andrew on Sat Oct 21, 2017 9:58 am

Might as well make this the daily discussion topic for the 2018 season. (Y)

Wizards/76ers was a fun one the other day. I liked what I saw of Simmons. His shooting touch is a bit shaky, but with his length and athleticism he can get to the rim and he's not bad finishing there. Obviously very early days, but I'd pick him as the frontrunner for Rookie of the Year. Talent is definitely there; he'd have easily taken the award last year, had he not been injured.
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Re: 2017-18 Daily Discussion

Postby shadowgrin on Sat Oct 21, 2017 10:48 am

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Re: 2017-18 Daily Discussion

Postby air gordon on Sat Oct 21, 2017 11:42 pm

Reminds me of when yao Ming came into the league and players were trying to dunk on him or cross him up

Lucky for Ball there are more defensive sieves like the suns than defensive studs in Beverley
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Re: 2017-18 Daily Discussion

Postby bowdown on Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:02 am

The Greek Freak is tossing salads left and right. Looking to be a clear MVP candidate for the season.
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Re: 2017-18 Daily Discussion

Postby Andrew on Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:26 pm

Ben Simmons joins Oscar Robertson and Hambone Williams in terms of being the quickest to earn their first triple-double. Also the first Aussie to do so in the NBA.
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Re: 2017-18 Daily Discussion

Postby Phil89 on Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:28 pm

Ben Simmons is having a decent start to his NBA career. He got a triple-double against the Pistons today in only his fourth game.

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Re: 2017-18 Daily Discussion

Postby shadowgrin on Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:39 pm

Simmons reminds me of those MyPlayers that are made with 7'0 height with ball handling of 90+.
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Re: 2017-18 Daily Discussion

Postby Andrew on Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:56 pm

He doesn't have the cheesy shooting abilities yet, though.
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Re: 2017-18 Daily Discussion

Postby Andrew on Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:33 pm

Good company.

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Re: 2017-18 Daily Discussion

Postby Phil89 on Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:48 pm

I'm just glad that he's back healthy and playing basketball. The fact that he's living up to all the hype is a cool bonus.

Future MVP if he can develop a reliable outside shot.
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Re: 2017-18 Daily Discussion

Postby air gordon on Fri Oct 27, 2017 1:15 am

happy for the suns to get 2 wins since the watson firing. they are out of the tank zone with the bulls and knicks now leading the way.
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Re: 2017-18 Daily Discussion

Postby [Q] on Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:26 am

Andrew wrote:Good company.

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Re: 2017-18 Daily Discussion

Postby bowdown on Fri Oct 27, 2017 3:00 pm

Blake Griffin with the buzzer beating game winner on the Blazers. A slow grind out game but an exciting finish.
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Re: 2017-18 Daily Discussion

Postby Dee4Three on Sat Oct 28, 2017 12:41 am

Great to see the C's win with defense last night. Jaylen struggled from the floor, and Tatum didn't get the ball much. Semi on Giannis in the second half was awesome to watch, he kept shutting him off, even making him put up an airball. Giannis had 8 points at the very end of the game in garbage time, he should have ended the game with just 20 and only a couple points in the second half.

Rozier and Smart also started slow. But both got it going in the second half at one point. One thing that bugs me about Marcus Smart is how long he holds onto the ball... he literally will act like hes directing traffic at the top of the key for a solid 12-15 seconds, and either pass it at the end of the shot clock where someone has to take a tough shot, or take a tough shot himself (Usually popping a contested 3). Granted, he hit a couple... but I don't like that offense. Meanwhile, he could have been running pick n rolls, or atleast be getting the ball to Tatum (who was on the floor with him the whole time basically) coming off screens.

Irving and Horford looked great together. Good chemistry, even an out of bounds play at the end of the 3rd with an alley oop to Horford from irving from under the basket (With 0.5 seconds on the clock). Horford is straight up scary if he's hitting three's like he is, he even hit one off balance at the end of the shot clock. Horford basically controlled the game offensively and defensively. Irving looked more comfortable, people have to realize that he is getting doubled a lot more in Boston. In the second half, he was doubled almost every time he touched the ball. Because of his ball handling, he was able to spin out of several of the double teams and find his teammates. Irving hasn't looked selfish at all to me this season, he always has his head up looking for someone. Scoring 24 with being doubled that much is pretty impressive.

Getting Baynes was genius. He impacts the game on both ends of the floor, he's a bully inside and it's great. He's like Kendrick Perkins with a nice mid range shot (When Perkins was younger). He's not afraid to go up on multiple defenders for a poster (Tried it twice last game). He's wide, so in the pick n roll game he is helpful even if he isn't scoring, because he's getting the guard (Like Rozier last night) a good look at the hoop.

I like games like this, because it was on the road and the players who were previously having stud games (Like Brown and Tatum) weren't involved as much. It was a grind it out game against a decent team.


In regards to the Clippers game... Blake Griffin is playing at an MVP level right now. I have caught 3 of the Clippers games via league pass, he is so confident. This is the best I have ever seen him play. In the past, we have had explosive Griffin with a questionable outside game, and a Griffin that has lost his explosiveness but with a better outside game. This year, he is both. It's only 4 games in, I just hope he stays healthy and can continue it. I think the Clippers are better this year because of the addition of Gallo, Beverley, Lou Williams, and Milos (When he comes back). Austin Rivers is underrated in my opinion as well. Deandre Jordan is averaging 18 rpg.

Heartbreaker for the Blazers though.... McCollum and Lillard had help in this one from Aminu and Nurkic, it just wasn't enough. Over the last few years I have seen the Blazers lose so many close games.
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Re: 2017-18 Daily Discussion

Postby air gordon on Sat Oct 28, 2017 1:48 am

demarcus cousins is a beast. nelson was a great signing by the pelicans
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Re: 2017-18 Daily Discussion

Postby Dee4Three on Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:10 am

Nelson was a great pickup. At 35 (turning 36 in February) he still plays the same as his younger years. I wonder what will happen to him when Rondo comes back, he deserves to be out on the floor a good amount if he keeps playing like this.
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Re: 2017-18 Daily Discussion

Postby Lamrock on Sat Oct 28, 2017 5:29 am

The Clippers look pretty legit. I thought they might sneak into the playoffs a la the post-Melo Nuggets. But they actually have a pair of all-stars. It would be pretty funny if the Clippers beat the Rockets in the second round to keep CP3 out of the WCF. :lol: Blake has been amazing, but we'll see if he can stay healthy this year...

Portland's... okay. I do think they'll make the playoffs. Won't be easy, with the consensus top 4 in the West, then LAC, Minnesota, Denver & Memphis, then Utah and NO also with some potential. Lillard and McCollum are great, but the defense just isn't good enough. Nurk has been quiet - not a huge surprise, but he seems to be the only chance this team has of really exceeding expectations so hopefully Nurkic Fever returns.
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Re: 2017-18 Daily Discussion

Postby [Q] on Sat Oct 28, 2017 6:21 am

I talked a lot of shit on Blake and the clippers and how they were going to suck but man he has proved me wrong. He's dunking again like 2010 Blake but with new skills like the 3 point shot.

Makes me wonder where the hell this was last year
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Re: 2017-18 Daily Discussion

Postby shadowgrin on Sat Oct 28, 2017 6:58 am

No more Chris Paul to tell him where to be and what to do on offense, Blake's playing free.
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Re: 2017-18 Daily Discussion

Postby Andrew on Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:21 am

Griffin's play has been impressive early on. Stay healthy for the entire year is the next step.
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Re: 2017-18 Daily Discussion

Postby SoF'nAwesome on Sat Oct 28, 2017 3:47 pm

As much I don't like Draymond, he has the right of it,

"I don't know what I'm supposed to do if someone hits you twice," Green told ESPN's Chris Haynes after the incident. "Man, you're taught as a kid not to allow that. What was I supposed to do?"


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Re: 2017-18 Daily Discussion

Postby Kevin on Sat Oct 28, 2017 4:46 pm

oubre hit wall LMAO
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Re: 2017-18 Daily Discussion

Postby shadowgrin on Sat Oct 28, 2017 8:32 pm

Ironic, coming from Draymond who does the same shit to rile up opponents.
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Re: 2017-18 Daily Discussion

Postby Phil89 on Sun Oct 29, 2017 1:59 pm

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Re: 2017-18 Daily Discussion

Postby Andrew on Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:05 pm

Indeed. I wonder if any other players have recorded a triple-double against every other team that was in the league during their career.

Westbrook to Lakers confirmed, just to make it all 30 next season. :crazy:
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Re: 2017-18 Daily Discussion

Postby SoF'nAwesome on Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:55 am

Thoughts on what made the dent in the OKC plane guys? :lol:
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Re: 2017-18 Daily Discussion

Postby shadowgrin on Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:50 am

Bird (Thunder plane)
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Seems about right if the bird is one of those medium sized migratory birds that like to hang at airports.
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Re: 2017-18 Daily Discussion

Postby Andrew on Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:36 am

Less than ten games in, and we don't have any winless teams, nor any undefeated ones. Also, the Magic are at the top of the East, just like we all predicted.
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Re: 2017-18 Daily Discussion

Postby SoF'nAwesome on Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:19 pm

Cavs possibly the worst team in the East even though LeBron is playing well, Clippers without CP3 not that bad, PG13 forgot how to play.

Boston in 6 vs Cavs in the ECF.

shadowgrin wrote:Seems about right if the bird is one of those medium sized migratory birds that like to hang at airports.

What I thought at first as well. But a bird @30,000 ft. in the night?

False, this was not a bird strike. Nose cone structural defect (either inherent or from a bungled repair, doesn’t matter) weakened until the force of the air caused it to fail and invert. It is very loud when it happens and it has occurred many times on passenger air craft.
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Re: 2017-18 Daily Discussion

Postby Andrew on Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:22 pm

Knicks beat Cavs, Pistons beat Warriors. Again, just as we all predicted.
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Re: 2017-18 Daily Discussion

Postby Phil89 on Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:25 pm

And the Sixers just won in Houston. It's all happening.

Ben Simmons is one of only two players to average 18+ points, 8 rebounds and 8 assists per game this season. The other one is some guy named Westbrook.
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Re: 2017-18 Daily Discussion

Postby Andrew on Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:38 pm

Very promising. He'll need to lift his free throw shooting though, and a reliable outside shot wouldn't go astray. Still, a lot of talent there.
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Re: 2017-18 Daily Discussion

Postby benji on Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:28 pm

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Re: 2017-18 Daily Discussion

Postby NovU on Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:23 pm

Ben Simmons is playing like an allstar already and should definitely deserve it if he keeps it up. Kid seems to be a real deal. :applaud:
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Re: 2017-18 Daily Discussion

Postby SoF'nAwesome on Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:14 am

Unrelated, but I really like Lonzo Ball. Kid seems very mature and has potential. I couldn't care less about his father but, with someone major going to Lakers next year it's going to be interesting.
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Re: 2017-18 Daily Discussion

Postby air gordon on Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:12 am

NovU wrote:Ben Simmons is playing like an allstar already and should definitely deserve it if he keeps it up. Kid seems to be a real deal. :applaud:

very impressive early returns. prolly a worse jump shot than giannis in his rookie year and is still able to produce

how about them orlando magic? caught by chance their game vs the nets but have watched their games since.
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Re: 2017-18 Daily Discussion

Postby Dee4Three on Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:21 am

air gordon wrote:
NovU wrote:Ben Simmons is playing like an allstar already and should definitely deserve it if he keeps it up. Kid seems to be a real deal. :applaud:

very impressive early returns. prolly a worse jump shot than giannis in his rookie year and is still able to produce

how about them orlando magic? caught by chance their game vs the nets but have watched their games since.


Evan Fournier and Aaron Gordon are playing as confident as ever. It's nice to see Gordon show some consistency.

Can this be sustained? probably not... but check it out.

FG% so far through 7 games.

Evan Fournier - .545%
Nikola Vucevic - .555%
Aaron Gordon - .549% (5 games)

3P% so far through 7 games

Evan Fournier - .556% with 5.1 attempts per game
Nikola Vucevic - .406% with 4.6 attempts per game
Aaron Gordon - ..591% with 4.4 attempts per game (5 games)

Additionally, Simmons was a great pickup. He gives them energy and defense, along with his ability to score. I look at Simmons as an under control Lance Stephenson when he is on the floor.

So while I think they are overachieving right now, it's clear that they have some building blocks over in Orlando. Pretty impressive stuff so far.
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Re: 2017-18 Daily Discussion

Postby air gordon on Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:06 am

yes i agree its an unlikely % rate to continue. the attempts are key as they are a far cry from last years lane clogging lineup

augustin has been good filling in but i'm interested to see payton with a lineup full of shooters.
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Re: 2017-18 Daily Discussion

Postby Phil89 on Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:30 pm

Another near triple-double for Simmons. Three straight wins for the Sixers and they're actually .500 now.

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Re: 2017-18 Daily Discussion

Postby Andrew on Thu Nov 02, 2017 6:31 pm

Quite the exclamation point to cap off his performance.
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Re: 2017-18 Daily Discussion

Postby Dee4Three on Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:23 pm

Just finished watching Blazers vs Lakers, what a great game to watch.

Nurkic and Lopez going at it was a pleasure to watch. Both guys put it all out on the floor. Kuzma has all the tools to be a special player, his game is mature for his age as well. He was yelling at Lonzo Ball on a couple plays because Ball was out of place on the floor. Ball did... well.. nothing. He dribbled passed halfcourt and passed it off. He also got burned over, and over again in the pick n roll and just in general by Lillard.

I want the Blazers to establish Nurkic more early, his ability to score the ball is supremely underrated. He has maybe the best touch for a big in the league. Watching him off the ball, he is constantly setting screens, constantly pointing where people should be, constantly communicating on D. Just really fun to watch him play.

I'm a Celtics fan, but the Blazers are one of my favorite teams in the NBA. Caleb Swanigan gave them good minutes, he could have had 6 to 8 more points if he had gone up right off the catch though instead of throwing so many pump fakes. Growing pains I guess, Kendrick Perkins did the same thing with the Celtics in his early years, and he would either be stripped or blocked. Evan Turner looked slightly more comfortable, but when he is not the primary ball handler... he's kind of lost. In Boston, he would be in as the primary ball handler for the second unit (and he thrived), but the Blazers always have CJ or Lillard in, it's at all times. So he is always sharing PG duties with someone. I'd like to see them work in more shots for Turner in the mid range, but he is seldom used to his strengths in Portland.

Great game though, glad I stayed up and watched it.
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