2017-18 Daily Discussion

by **[Q]** on Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:06 am

Will kyrie get booed in Cleveland? He should get booed. He asked for the trade.

New look rockets against the warriors. I think rockets have put themselves ahead of the warriors with the cp3 trade. It's a matter of which team plays better defense

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:11 am

I assume Kyrie will get booed, though I can understand his motivation. I think the way LeBron keeps referring to him as "kid" is a pretty big clue that Kyrie was tired of being condescended to in Cleveland. It's also pretty rich, given how childish LeBron has acted in the past (and still does at times).

I'm guessing the Rockets will look really good for three quarters, and then the Warriors just run away with it in the fourth with a barrage of threes.

by **cavs4872** on Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:33 am

Yeah; even though he was huge in bringing Cleveland their first chip, he'll get booed - almost like an "unfinished business" type thing; he abandoned ship while it was still afloat.

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:17 am

Oh man. Gruesome injury for Gordon Hayward.

by **Sauru** on Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:23 am

well that was a fun season

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:31 am

Absolutely sickening. I've never heard an arena so quiet.

by **cavs4872** on Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:11 am

Ugh, prayers for Hayward. In a sick twist of fate, Kyrie "gets to be the man" now; if it's season-ending, this has to take the Celtics out of title contention.

YouTube · by **shadowgrin** on Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:16 am

Am I a terrible human being for thinking immediately how it would affect Kyrie's numbers in fantasy league rather than the condition of Hayward?

Seems like Mormon prayers are pretty potent, reminder to not piss them off like Hayward did. Just look at what happend with Karl Malone with the Lakers too.

Kyrie needs to be booed for that subtle insult on Cleveland about him now being in a true sports city like Boston.

Q wrote:I think rockets have put themselves ahead of the warriors with the cp3 trade.

You're drunk Q. Lay off the rice wine.

by **Sauru** on Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:17 am

for what its worth the celtics didnt have a shot at the title outside of lebron/durant getting injured. people kept comparing the trade as to who is better but its the addition of rose/wade/green that really set the cavs apart. plus that lebron guy

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:19 am

Think I'm going to have to turn off the TV until Warriors/Cavs. Hard to get into the game after that scene. Can't even begin to imagine how the players are doing it.

by **Sauru** on Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:28 am

Andrew wrote:Think I'm going to have to turn off the TV until Warriors/Cavs. Hard to get into the game after that scene. Can't even begin to imagine how the players are doing it.

i have also stopped watching the game. just cant get into it

YouTube · by **shadowgrin** on Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:43 am

Stay classy Skip.

https://twitter.com/realskipbayless/status/920447725816049666

If Gordon Hayward is gone, maybe for the season, LeBron's path to losing a sixth finals gets even easier.

by **Dee4Three** on Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:53 am

Stopped watching after it happened.

Can't watch it.

by **Sauru** on Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:04 pm

shadowgrin wrote:Stay classy Skip.

https://twitter.com/realskipbayless/status/920447725816049666
If Gordon Hayward is gone, maybe for the season, LeBron's path to losing a sixth finals gets even easier.

i mean he is not wrong but holy shit can you at least wait until hayward gets to the damn hospital

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:31 pm

Sauru wrote:
shadowgrin wrote:Stay classy Skip.

https://twitter.com/realskipbayless/status/920447725816049666
If Gordon Hayward is gone, maybe for the season, LeBron's path to losing a sixth finals gets even easier.

i mean he is not wrong but holy shit can you at least wait until hayward gets to the damn hospital

Agreed. No need to make it about LeBron in that moment, and completely classless. Sure, it gets attention, but it's just an inflammatory comment to stir the pot. No dignity in that.

by **cavs4872** on Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:59 pm

After that game, I'm under the impression the Kyrie trade just made both teams worse (idk if that was the general consensus), but with the Hayward injury we'll never be able to truly grade Boston's offseason. It still doesn't sit right for me seeing Kyrie in a C's jersey (not as a Cavs fan, but just a general NBA fan); it seems like the most pointless/unnecessary exercise - doesn't feel right.

Was it ever clarified if it was because he wanted to get away from LeBron or because he wanted to lead a team? If I was Altman, I would've just been like "You're under contract - the end"; nothing wrong with leaving as a free agent (it's a business and all), but what he did wasn't right.

by **bowdown** on Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:22 pm

That sucks. The East gets weaker and weaker its getting to be pretty ridiculous. Hayward cannot be the same player for atleast 1.5 years after this injury.

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:10 pm

cavs4872 wrote:Was it ever clarified if it was because he wanted to get away from LeBron or because he wanted to lead a team? If I was Altman, I would've just been like "You're under contract - the end"; nothing wrong with leaving as a free agent (it's a business and all), but what he did wasn't right.

It's no different to any other player asking for a trade because they're dissatisfied and want to move on. It sounds like his relationship with LeBron was strained, and when word of his trade request was leaked, all trust evaporated and the relationship completely disintegrated.

by **[Q]** on Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:31 pm

Holy crap what a game

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:41 pm

Wild finish, always fun. Durant's shot looked a split-second too late in real time, definitely the right call thanks to the instant replay. Rockets almost gifted the Warriors the game by not getting that rebound, though. Still a place in the game for traditional bigs who can clean up on the boards.

by **SoF'nAwesome** on Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:42 pm

Sauru wrote:
shadowgrin wrote:Stay classy Skip.

https://twitter.com/realskipbayless/status/920447725816049666
If Gordon Hayward is gone, maybe for the season, LeBron's path to losing a sixth finals gets even easier.

i mean he is not wrong but holy shit can you at least wait until hayward gets to the damn hospital

Not even then, it's such a cuntly way to put it.

I stopped watching the Warriors-Rockets game after the 3rd and now I see they won by a point whaaat :lol:

by **Sauru** on Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:05 pm

SoF'nAwesome wrote:
Sauru wrote:
shadowgrin wrote:Stay classy Skip.

https://twitter.com/realskipbayless/status/920447725816049666
If Gordon Hayward is gone, maybe for the season, LeBron's path to losing a sixth finals gets even easier.

i mean he is not wrong but holy shit can you at least wait until hayward gets to the damn hospital

Not even then, it's such a cuntly way to put it.

I stopped watching the Warriors-Rockets game after the 3rd and now I see they won by a point whaaat

yeah i agree not even then should skip mention it i was just overstating it a bit. the reality is the cavs didnt need this to move on but people will use it as another in a long line of injuries that has helped lebron get to the finals. as for bringing that point up? best left for the end of the season

game 2 was great and boy does nick young fit in with this offense

by **SoF'nAwesome** on Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:46 pm

In my opinion, Irving made his point. He is ready and can lead a franchise. And even with Hayward out for the season(chances are he might return during the playoffs), this Celtics team will only improve as time goes on and the young'uns develop more. Jaylen was crazy today and Tatum showed a lot of potential. People shouldn't really write this team off so easily, they will give the Cavs a hard time.

by **Jackal** on Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:07 am

Andrew wrote:Wild finish, always fun. Durant's shot looked a split-second too late in real time, definitely the right call thanks to the instant replay. Rockets almost gifted the Warriors the game by not getting that rebound, though. Still a place in the game for traditional bigs who can clean up on the boards.

I have to disagree. All the three's just don't make for an interesting game to me. This is why I don't find the all star game interesting either.

Sure it came close at the end but what's fun about trading three's and layups. Defense was there for a few plays and then just let guys go by or shoot on most others.

I'm glad the Warriors lost though. Fuck Durant. Soft ass bitch.

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:48 am

Oh, I'm just talking about the ending, not the game as a whole. I only tuned in to the final few minutes; I just wasn't in the mood to watch basketball after what went down with Hayward, but when I checked on the score later and saw it was close, I switched back over to watch the end.

by **Jackal** on Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:29 am

Ah, that makes sense. I was a lot more entertained by the Celtics Cavs game, perhaps just wanting the team to collectively pick it up after the injury. They came back from double digits too, would've been something if Irving made that last shot.

The Warriors and Rockets though, CP3 is enjoyable to watch when he's not flailing or looking to do some sneaky shit. Harden is unwatchable. Dance dance dance pull up three or foul, get that shit out of here. Gordon played like a beast though. Three's, drives, and-1's..glad he's doing well. Swaggy was lighting it up for the Dubs as well. Goofy ol' uncle P.

by **air gordon** on Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:35 am

Jackal wrote:I have to disagree. All the three's just don't make for an interesting game to me. This is why I don't find the all star game interesting either.

Sure it came close at the end but what's fun about trading three's and layups. Defense was there for a few plays and then just let guys go by or shoot on most others.

I'm glad the Warriors lost though. Fuck Durant. Soft ass bitch.

what game were you watching?

and what is an interesting game to you?
also Gordon did not hit a 3

houston is one of the few teams that can beat GSW in a playoff series. it was a good watch to me seeing d'antoni come up with a successful game plan.. at least for one game.

by **Jackal** on Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:45 am

The Cavs Celts was interesting to me. It wasn't a layup line.

God forbid someone not enjoy a game. Glad you did. Good for you.

Also what game plan to beat them? They lucked out with Curry picking up early fouls, being disjointed as a team and then losing Green. They weren't clicking as a unit and still almost won the game.

by **[Q]** on Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:57 am

Jackal wrote:I'm glad the Warriors lost though. Fuck Durant. Soft ass bitch.

Agreed. Extra happy he thought he was the hero but was too late.

It was a crazy game and with the way both teams shoot 3s, no lead would ever be big enough. 17 pt deficit? Oh that's only 6 possessions

The scoring looked so easy that every miss/stop/rebound was super exciting to me lol
Plus all of Eric Gordon's drives were great to see. Made me miss watching him when he was on the clippers

by **air gordon** on Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:06 am

Jackal wrote:The Cavs Celts was interesting to me. It wasn't a layup line.

God forbid someone not enjoy a game. Glad you did. Good for you.

Also what game plan to beat them? They lucked out with Curry picking up early fouls, being disjointed as a team and then losing Green. They weren't clicking as a unit and still almost won the game.

Thanks. im glad the nba is back.
CP3 played hurt so it evens out. Curry is an idiot of having the habit of picking up stupid fouls and then he got picked on in the 4th. good stuff.

by **NovU** on Thu Oct 19, 2017 5:26 am

CP3 played injured and still beat the Warriors. I like how the new rivalry is fuming in west. I expect the Spurs to be weaken tho.

The celtics are screwed. This was a win now mode team. No matter how you put it, Gordon injury broke a lot of celtics fans heart. Looking more like the Bucks are the best bet this season to Cavs dominance now. Fingers crossed they remain healthy.

by **Dee4Three** on Thu Oct 19, 2017 5:40 am

NovU wrote:CP3 played injured and still beat the Warriors. I like how the new rivalry is fuming in west. I expect the Spurs to be weaken tho.

The celtics are screwed. This was a win now mode team. No matter how you put it, Gordon injury broke a lot of celtics fans heart. Looking more like the Bucks are the best bet this season to Cavs dominance now. Fingers crossed they remain healthy.

I don't agree on the C's. I think they can still challenge Cleveland. They have super young talent in Irving, Tatum, Brown and Smart. They can compete this year, and will be even better next year.

I equate WIN NOW mode to a team that has aging veterans like the C's did before they let KG and Paul go. After they were traded, it was rebuild time. Or a team that has a star or stars threatening to leave in the offseason. This is a young team that won't only compete this year, but for years to come.

by **Axel.** on Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:19 am

I'm excited at what I saw last night from the Rockets. Though without Green's injury, the outcome probably would've been different. What I liked most was seeing Ariza-Tucker-Mbah a Moute in the same lineup. Active in the passing lanes and on the boards (though they probably wouldn't hold up against a Spurs or New Orleans team rebounding-wise).

Even with Chris Paul on the team, there was a little too much Harden dancing possessions that ended with an ill-advised three. I'd say the Rockets were lucky to come away with a win considering they had a chance to ice the game in the penultimate possession. But a win is a win.

by **Sauru** on Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:30 am

the celtics were in no way shape or form in win now mode. they are a very young team and this is just a ridiculous statement to make. however coming from novu this was a much better post than i was expecting. honestly i thought you would be throwing a parade right now. probably rubbed a few out in celebration i expect

by **[Q]** on Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:17 am

Cp3 was hurt, no green, no iguodala, plus Houston has no idea how to play with each other yet so next game will be interesting

by **NovU** on Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:21 am

Sauru. Your expectation probably was reasonable and realistic. But looking at circumstances Ainge did commit to competing. You have 3 max stars for years to come and was top seeded, only 7 wins away from championship in previous season. A lot of Celtics fans were smoking high.

Year removed probably means little though might have been nicer to mesh early and figure out adjustment to make in order to improve while East remains ruins.

Hard not to call this a setback and huge disappointment.

by **Stress Fracture** on Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:45 pm

Axel. wrote:I'm excited at what I saw last night from the Rockets. Though without Green's injury, the outcome probably would've been different. What I liked most was seeing Ariza-Tucker-Mbah a Moute in the same lineup. Active in the passing lanes and on the boards (though they probably wouldn't hold up against a Spurs or New Orleans team rebounding-wise).

Even with Chris Paul on the team, there was a little too much Harden dancing possessions that ended with an ill-advised three. I'd say the Rockets were lucky to come away with a win considering they had a chance to ice the game in the penultimate possession. But a win is a win.

Don't forget Ryan Anderson being active on the boards. Never seen him that active.

by **Dee4Three** on Fri Oct 20, 2017 1:00 am

NovU wrote:You have 3 max stars for years to come

Right, and that's why this isn't a Win Now moment, which is why your original comment didn't make any sense. Next season, Irving will be 26, Tatum 20, and Jaylen Brown will be 21, Rozier and Smart will be 24 next season, Horford's game translates nicely into his early/mid 30's (Like David West's did). We are setup for the future, Win Now mode is literally WIN NOW, like this season.

As stated prior, I still believe we compete this season. And, this could be a blessing in disguise, as it will give Tatum and Brown even more run, and both of them are going to be exceptional NBA players.

by **[Q]** on Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:12 am

Dammit Jeremy Lin ruptured patellar tendon out for the season. Waiting for Kobe's message

by **Dee4Three** on Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:15 am

[Q] wrote:Dammit Jeremy Lin ruptured patellar tendon out for the season. Waiting for Kobe's message

His reaction was pretty sad, he broke down when he realized how serious it was (While he was still on the floor). I feel bad for him.

by **NovU** on Fri Oct 20, 2017 4:54 am

Sure, call it whatever you may wish my friend. What may have been Fultz or Lonzo turned into immediate asset. See, its about perspective.

by **Dee4Three** on Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:06 am

NovU wrote:Sure, call it whatever you may wish my friend. What may have been Fultz or Lonzo turned into immediate asset. See, its about perspective.

Want to expand?

Not sure what you are getting at with that statement. Want to explain how that has anything to do with you saying the Celtics are in Win Now mode?

by **NovU** on Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:11 am

I don't know why anyone wanna drag this non important discussion.

by **Dee4Three** on Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:16 am

NovU wrote:I don't know why anyone wanna drag this non important discussion.

Well, its relevant to your claim. You stated they were in WIN NOW mode. I am stating they are not. It's important that we have an understanding of what "Win Now" means, and how if it is relevant in the Celtics situation.

You must have thought it was important enough to make that statement, so I am just trying to get to the bottom of why you feel that way.

by **NovU** on Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:35 am

No need for that here, my friend. You write a basketball terminology dictionary.

by **Dee4Three** on Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:42 am

NovU wrote:No need for that here, my friend. You write a basketball terminology dictionary.

You can admit when you are wrong, you know? You just used the wrong terminology.

No worries my friend.

by **NovU** on Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:49 am

You can admit if you're mentally unstable too, my friend. :wink:

by **Dee4Three** on Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:51 am

NovU wrote:You can admit if you're mentally unstable too, my friend.

I would absolutely do so, if I was.

I have no issues admitting when I am wrong. If I have to watch you go at other peoples opinions and ideas, I will challenge you on a silly claim you make that has no backing or doesn't make any sense. If you can't handle it, maybe you shouldn't dish it out?

FYI: You are not always right, in fact.. you are often wrong. It's okay to be wrong sometimes.

by **NovU** on Fri Oct 20, 2017 6:01 am

I am right tho, it's your coherency problem and arrogance. I been telling how the Celtics were looking to compete and win this year. Your expectations were dumbly high, now you switch the position, "Oh, we're built for the future, not meant to win this year anyways, but still challenge the cavs(?)". One thing I respect about Sauru's shit opinion is his consistency. He knew Celtics were shit, 3rd tier losers regardless the injury.

by **Dee4Three** on Fri Oct 20, 2017 6:09 am

NovU wrote:I am right tho, it's your coherency problem and arrogance. I been telling how the Celtics were looking to compete and win this year. Your expectations were dumbly high, now you switch the position, "Oh, we're built for the future, not meant to win this year anyways, but still challenge the cavs(?)". One thing I respect about Sauru's shit opinion is his consistency. He knew Celtics were shit, 3rd tier losers regardless the injury.

I never changed my stance once, so you are lying to make yourself look better in this conversation. I said they can contend this year, and for years to come. I never swayed from that, ever. So that is a complete lie.

They were built to compete this year AND years to come. That's not WIN NOW mode, years to come is not WIN NOW mode.

Also, don't lie.

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