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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Andrew on Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:24 pm

It's a one day contract. It doesn't impact them at all in the long run.

Technically, he will retire a Celtic, because the signing is still official. It may seem silly, but I think it's an appropriate ceremonial gesture. They came to a parting of the ways because they were rebuilding and he wasn't done playing, but he was always going to be remembered as a Celtic. Granted, I think a homecoming like there was with KG in Minnesota is a better scenario, and I suppose you could say that's a more "legitimate" way of ending your career back with a team, but I have no problem with it. It's a reconciliatory gesture as much as anything, something that gives the people involved a sense of closure that they wanted. Where's the harm?
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Sauru on Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:48 am

NovU wrote:Ungrateful bastards. Ray was a major reason they won a ship, perhaps the most important part in their run.



of course ray was a big part of the celtics championship but it no way was he the most important part however the fans did not break the relationship, he did. if that bitch wants loyalty he needs to give it.
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby air gordon on Tue Aug 15, 2017 6:37 am

Sauru wrote:pretty sure bradley is gone anyway next season and we aint winning it all this year so i would trade bradley and keep the young guys. then again i am still of the mind set to trade thomas instead of paying him so what do i know

Sauru wrote:then again i am still of the mind set to trade thomas instead of paying him so what do i know

Perhaps IT won't get the brinks truck of $ he's asking for?

Sorry for digging this one up btw. Dunc'd podcast did an off season grade pod recently and surprisingly ainge was given a C.....

IT continues to have terrific seasons but will the market create the max he wants? Especially when you consider his size, playing style, and age. Maybe he has some leverage since the Celtics drafted Tate instead of fultz but smart is still around
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Dee4Three on Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:57 am

I'm hurting about Thomas. But..

Crowder being trades means more time on the floor for Tatum, which I am happy about. I was worried about him riding a little too much pine.

I like Irving, just loved IT.
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby air gordon on Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:11 pm

so who plays the small ball 4 spot that crowder excelled at? especially on defense? maybe more PT for marcus morris or even Semi? tatum would get eaten up on defense playing 4
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Sauru on Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:57 pm

this is one of those deals where i feel both teams win, at least for this season. come next season we will know who won the deal based on what brooklyn does this season. this is also good for kyrie, perfect fit for him imo. outside of the draft pick i dont really about what we gave away. i have been praying they would trade thomas instead of just letting him walk or worse yet paying him. yeah i liked crowder but i aint gonna cry about losing him either. only way i hate this deal is if we do not resign kyrie or if the brooklyn pick is a top 3 pick which is very possible.


something i find funny is how everyone was bitching because ainge didnt want to trade away a pick and then they bitch when he does. having kyrie + hayward is better than having butler + thomas. good chance we still pull a top 5 pick in the next draft anyway. now if horford could just stop being such a bitch
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Jackal on Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:07 pm

Sauru wrote:now if horford could just stop being such a bitch


Hornets trade Howard for Horford at trade deadline confirmed.
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby air gordon on Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:32 am

Sauru wrote:outside of the draft pick i dont really about what we gave away. i have been praying they would trade thomas instead of just letting him walk or worse yet paying him. yeah i liked crowder but i aint gonna cry about losing him either. only way i hate this deal is if we do not resign kyrie or if the brooklyn pick is a top 3 pick which is very possible.


something i find funny is how everyone was bitching because ainge didnt want to trade away a pick and then they bitch when he does. having kyrie + hayward is better than having butler + thomas. good chance we still pull a top 5 pick in the next draft anyway. now if horford could just stop being such a bitch
question is who will have the bigger Homer post. Sauru or dee
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Dee4Three on Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:35 am

air gordon wrote:
Sauru wrote:outside of the draft pick i dont really about what we gave away. i have been praying they would trade thomas instead of just letting him walk or worse yet paying him. yeah i liked crowder but i aint gonna cry about losing him either. only way i hate this deal is if we do not resign kyrie or if the brooklyn pick is a top 3 pick which is very possible.


something i find funny is how everyone was bitching because ainge didnt want to trade away a pick and then they bitch when he does. having kyrie + hayward is better than having butler + thomas. good chance we still pull a top 5 pick in the next draft anyway. now if horford could just stop being such a bitch
question is who will have the bigger Homer post. Sauru or dee


The question was: Who will stereotype first? Looks like it was you.

The trade makes sense from a business perspective. I stated my thoughts in the Kyrie thread.
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby air gordon on Thu Aug 24, 2017 2:21 am

IT is a more efficient scorer and has a longer proven track record as a main scorer. They are similarly bad on defense while Irving has the edge on age but also has injury issues himself

It's fair to say still they are similarly valued

Crowder is a rare multi positional defender who can hit 3s and the brooklyn pick speaks for itself

The cavs gm aced one on the great ainge. That's not stereotyping

But when someone said well we have the other pick or I won't miss crowder as if they grew on trees....
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby benji on Thu Aug 24, 2017 2:51 am

https://twitter.com/Tom_NBA/status/900174983678308352
Danny Ainge: “We traded Avery Bradley.”

The masses: “WHO WILL GUARD KYRIE?”

Ainge: “Hold my non-alcoholic beverage."
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Dee4Three on Thu Aug 24, 2017 3:23 am

air gordon wrote:IT is a more efficient scorer and has a longer proven track record as a main scorer. They are similarly bad on defense while Irving has the edge on age but also has injury issues himself

It's fair to say still they are similarly valued

Crowder is a rare multi positional defender who can hit 3s and the brooklyn pick speaks for itself

The cavs gm aced one on the great ainge. That's not stereotyping

But when someone said well we have the other pick or I won't miss crowder as if they grew on trees....


You are also overvaluing Crowder. A guy that would frustrate us as much as he delighted us, because he would settle for threes/contested 3's so often. I don't see Crowder being anymore important to the Celtics this year as Jaylen Brown will be. Moving him makes sense in my eyes, and it gives more burn to Tatum. Brown has the ability to guard multiple positions as well.

Irving holds more value at this point in comparison to IT. 4 years younger, proven elite scorer, 5 inches taller, big moment experience. I loved IT, but Irving holds more value.
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby air gordon on Thu Aug 24, 2017 4:30 am

Irving is an elite scorer? Based on?!

I'll agree browns development is key but more based on his draft position. Can he guard 4's and hit 3's consistently like Crowder? > 50% corner 3 btw. Crowder is flawed no doubt but the skillet remains valuable

This is a quick agree to disagree if you believe Irvings youth was worth the cost of adding Crowder and the Brooklyn pick
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Dee4Three on Thu Aug 24, 2017 4:58 am

air gordon wrote:Irving is an elite scorer? Based on?!

I'll agree browns development is key but more based on his draft position. Can he guard 4's and hit 3's consistently like Crowder? > 50% corner 3 btw. Crowder is flawed no doubt but the skillet remains valuable

This is a quick agree to disagree if you believe Irvings youth was worth the cost of adding Crowder and the Brooklyn pick


I'm good with agreeing to disagree. Irving youth and upside was worth it, even though I miss IT.

And well, if we are basing anything on draft position, Thomas was the 6th overall pick in the 2011 draft....he average 28.9 last season.

Agree to disagree on Crowder and Irvings value.
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby air gordon on Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:34 am

iriving is an elite scorer. explain

draft position... as in invested a high pick on brown versus buying low on IT who happened to be the last pick in a draft. capeesh?

i'm curious as to how many legit 2 way players there are in the league at crowder's position and share his versatility
KD
LB
PG
Giannis
Harry Barnes
Covington
James Johnson
Draymond Green
Butler
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Dee4Three on Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:36 am

air gordon wrote:iriving is an elite scorer. explain

draft position... as in invested a high pick on brown versus buying low on IT who happened to be the last pick in a draft. capeesh?

i'm curious as to how many legit 2 way players there are in the league at crowder's position and share his versatility
KD
LB
PG
Giannis
Harry Barnes
Covington
James Johnson
Draymond Green
Butler
?


capeesh?

The conversation ends with that.
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby air gordon on Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:41 am

that's ok. i shouldnt be surprised you played the butt hurt card (on capeesh? seriously lol) and dodge my post.
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Dee4Three on Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:44 am

air gordon wrote:that's ok. i shouldnt be surprised you played the butt hurt card (on capeesh? seriously lol) and dodge my post.
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