Boston Celtics Thread

Like real basketball, as well as basketball video games? Talk about the NBA, NCAA, and other professional and amateur basketball leagues here.

Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Dee4Three on Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:30 am

Hi all,

I looked through the forum, and I was not able to locate a Boston Celtics thread. I live about an hour outside of Boston, and have been to close to 20 Celtics games. I've also been following the Celtics since the late 80's. I even endured the 96-97 Season where the C's only won 15 games (I watched every game that season).

The Celtics are currently 2nd in the Eastern Conference standings, and are coming off of a win against the Blazers last night. They have won 8 of the last 9 games.

My question to start off this thread, do you think the C's should make a major move before the trade deadline?. My thought is, the Celtics should get a Rim Protector, while keeping our top Brooklyn picks. If I were the C's, I would be pushing to get Serge Ibaka, while his block/rebound numbers are down, he is in his prime, and I think he would fit in well with this group. In regards to what I would move for him? Well, it would be more like what I wouldn't want to move. I would like to hang on to Jae Crowder, Marcus Smart, Jaylen Brown, Avery Bradley, Thomas, Horford, and Rozier (Because he has shown a lot of improvement). I could part with Olynyk (Even though he shows flashes of good play), and I have no attachment to Amir Johnson.

I'm so torn on what the C's should do with the draft picks.

What are your thoughts on the Boston Celtics this season?
User avatar
Dee4Three
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 4637
Joined: Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:34 pm
Location: New Hampshire, USA

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby air gordon on Sat Feb 11, 2017 4:43 am

I wouldn't want to part with any of the Brooklyn picks to get the rim protector. Ibaka seems ok. I wonder if he's heading past his prime. He IMO looked slower last year then woke up against the spurs in the playoffs. Also a free agent. No doubt would be a great pickup in a series vs the cavs

You've got defensive some bulldogs there in smart, Crowder, and Avery. Esp that smart. Beast

Touch choice there. James is bound to slow down soon and if Boston stays the course they can be in position to be the top team in the east for many years
Fire GarPax
User avatar
air gordon
 
Posts: 7066
Joined: Wed Nov 13, 2002 4:06 pm
Location: windy city

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Dee4Three on Sat Feb 11, 2017 4:59 am

I think Ibaka isn't motivated by the situation in Orlando. Just my opinion, I feel like he would elevate his effort on a contender. He's only 27 years old. When I watch him, he doesn't look like hes slowed down athletically, I feel like his effort isn't max. Which, could be a character issue in itself...

Out of the players I have heard the Celtics trying for (Realistically, I'm not counting Butler/Melo etc). I like Ibaka as a fit the most. Vucevic second, but as an intimidation factor I take Ibaka over him. Also, Ibaka is averaging more PPG than Vucevic this season, and .6 more BPG, and they are playing roughly the same minutes. Vucevic is one year younger.

Also, I was not a Marcus Smart fan last year, or even to start this season. But he's grown on me a lot. He impacts the game in so many ways (Like last night vs the Blazers).
User avatar
Dee4Three
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 4637
Joined: Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:34 pm
Location: New Hampshire, USA

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Murat on Sat Feb 11, 2017 5:25 am

I really love to watch Isaiah Thomas highlights from instagram account of NBA. I replay them over and over. He is so entertaining. He does the clutch performances against teams in Eastern Conference, or at the nationally televised games
Image
this year, again...
User avatar
Murat
I wanted you so bad, dear custom title
Contributor
 
Posts: 5765
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2010 6:07 am
Location: Middle East

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Dee4Three on Sat Feb 11, 2017 5:26 am

Murat wrote:I really love to watch Isaiah Thomas highlights from instagram account of NBA. I replay them over and over. He is so entertaining. He does the clutch performances against teams in Eastern Conference, or at the nationally televised games


It's amazing how he scores at the hoop so often. Sometimes 2 or 3 guys converge on him, and he finds a way to use his body to create space to get the shot off. He's awesome.
User avatar
Dee4Three
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 4637
Joined: Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:34 pm
Location: New Hampshire, USA

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Andrew on Sat Feb 11, 2017 8:56 am

Thomas is also leading the league in fourth quarter points. I saw a graphic during a broadcast the other day that referred to him as King in the Fourth; I'm going to assume it was an intentional Game of Thrones reference, and so I definitely approve. In any event, the guy is clutch, and has turned into a star. I also saw the other day that for his career, he's already outscored all the other final picks in the Draft (lottery era, I believe) combined, which is insane. Proof that you can't hold back talent.

Ibaka would be a great pickup for the Celtics. I guess you could question his attitude if he's slacking off a bit in Orlando, but it could be more a case of him being disheartened than flat out sulking or not trying. He's also not going to look as good when he isn't flanked by Russell Westbrook and Kevin Durant, as he was in Oklahoma City. I think you can probably cut him a bit of slack there, and he'd give it his all in a better situation.
NLSC Webmaster/Administrator
Image
Contact: Email | Twitter
Release Threads: NBA Live 08 | NBA Live 07 | NBA Live 06 | NBA Live 2005 | NBA Live 2004
Story Threads: NBA 2K13 | NBA Live 06 (Part 2) | NBA Live 06 (HOF) | NBA Live 2004 (HOF)
NLSC: Podcast | The Friday Five | Monday Tip-Off | Wayback Wednesday | 20th Anniversary of NBA Live | Facebook | Twitter | YouTube


Support The NLSC Hosting Fund: Patreon | GoFundMe

Image
Like my work? Want to help out with the NLSC Hosting Fund? Please consider leaving a tip!
User avatar
Andrew
No context necessary.
Administrator
 
Posts: 101085
Joined: Thu Aug 22, 2002 8:51 pm
Location: Australia

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby JaoSming on Sat Feb 11, 2017 10:04 am

Dee4Three wrote:My question to start off this thread, do you think the C's should make a major move before the trade deadline?

Only for Butler or any other "superstar" scorer to help IT...except Melo, no thanks. I'd rather the C's keep the high draft pick and either trade it before/during the draft, or draft another future start to develop with Smart & Brown, and the other youngins.

Dee4Three wrote:What are your thoughts on the Boston Celtics this season?

lolNets. I'm in disbelief that the Celtics are at the top of the conference and in the running for the #1 draft pick. I don't see the team (confidently) beating the Cavs/Warriors/Spurs in a 7 game series, but I do think it'd go 7 games.

You said you wanted a rim protector, IMO we're hurting at the 3 for scoring. I think Brown will develop to a nice player, but I'd love to see a scoring forward come over to help IT....I just don't really want to give anyone up....or the picks.

TBH, at least from this year, I'd rather keep Amir than get Ibaka.
Right Click Loop
phpBB [video]

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8ozxhwwmz4LJzpGAj22T5qa0ZVFBJ3yw

User avatar
JaoSming
2KTV Producer
NBA 2K Developer
 
Posts: 29827
Joined: Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:45 am
Location: 2K

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Sauru on Sat Feb 11, 2017 3:38 pm

there is no way in hell i would trade a brooklyn pick, especially this season. at some point you have to go for a potential superstar hall of fame talent that can carry your franchise for the next 15 years. i would be so pissed if the celtics traded the pick away. there in no player in the entire nba right now that is good enough to win us the championship in the next 2 years so think long term
User avatar
Sauru
 
Posts: 7514
Joined: Sat Sep 06, 2003 11:01 am

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby big-shot-ROB on Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:38 am

In the last bunch of games I've seen from the C's, Smart has been terrific on the defensive end. I wonder how many steals/game he averages.
Image
User avatar
big-shot-ROB
Robert Horry is better than MJ, because everybody knows that 7>6.
 
Posts: 1082
Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2014 6:59 pm
Location: Manresa, Catalonia, Europe

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Dee4Three on Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:41 pm

Fab Melo passed away at age 26. He died in his sleep...

Ugh.

http://www.si.com/college-basketball/20 ... -melo-dead
User avatar
Dee4Three
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 4637
Joined: Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:34 pm
Location: New Hampshire, USA

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Andrew on Sun Feb 12, 2017 6:06 pm

Far too young. RIP.
NLSC Webmaster/Administrator
Image
Contact: Email | Twitter
Release Threads: NBA Live 08 | NBA Live 07 | NBA Live 06 | NBA Live 2005 | NBA Live 2004
Story Threads: NBA 2K13 | NBA Live 06 (Part 2) | NBA Live 06 (HOF) | NBA Live 2004 (HOF)
NLSC: Podcast | The Friday Five | Monday Tip-Off | Wayback Wednesday | 20th Anniversary of NBA Live | Facebook | Twitter | YouTube


Support The NLSC Hosting Fund: Patreon | GoFundMe

Image
Like my work? Want to help out with the NLSC Hosting Fund? Please consider leaving a tip!
User avatar
Andrew
No context necessary.
Administrator
 
Posts: 101085
Joined: Thu Aug 22, 2002 8:51 pm
Location: Australia

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Dee4Three on Wed Feb 15, 2017 1:10 am

JaoSming wrote:
Dee4Three wrote:My question to start off this thread, do you think the C's should make a major move before the trade deadline?

Only for Butler or any other "superstar" scorer to help IT...except Melo, no thanks. I'd rather the C's keep the high draft pick and either trade it before/during the draft, or draft another future start to develop with Smart & Brown, and the other youngins.

Dee4Three wrote:What are your thoughts on the Boston Celtics this season?

lolNets. I'm in disbelief that the Celtics are at the top of the conference and in the running for the #1 draft pick. I don't see the team (confidently) beating the Cavs/Warriors/Spurs in a 7 game series, but I do think it'd go 7 games.

You said you wanted a rim protector, IMO we're hurting at the 3 for scoring. I think Brown will develop to a nice player, but I'd love to see a scoring forward come over to help IT....I just don't really want to give anyone up....or the picks.

TBH, at least from this year, I'd rather keep Amir than get Ibaka.


I know, it's hard not to say "lets keep what we have" when we have won 9 out of our last 10, and are playing well on the road. I think we are seeing that Avery Bradley could be parted with, and I think we could get something really solid in return. This entire stretch has been without him. Yes, I know that there are a lot of AB fans out there, but I've said it for a couple years, I don't think Avery Bradley puts us over the top. My biggest problem with AB is his lack of getting others involved on the offensive end, and the ball kind of sticking to him. His highest APG are just over 2, and he handles the ball quite a bit. When hes out, I feel like we are moving the ball better as a unit. I know that he brings a lot to the defensive end, but I don't think that puts him over the top as a keeper on this team. My thought is: Most every team in the league values AB, we could absolutely get something quality in return.

I may get a "REALLY???!" from a few people about that, but my view on how they play with him and without him is that the Avery Bradley era can come to an end and we don't take a hit in the win column.

As far as Ibaka goes, I think he offers a lot more than Amir Johnson. I like Ibaka's offensive game better (Any shot Amir shoots, he needs like 4 seconds for his wind up and needs to be completely wide open. He also doesn't have as good hands as Ibaka, and he is not the rim protector Ibaka is.

I do want to point out, I LOVE the way Smart/Green/Olynyk have been playing, they have been so solid as of late.
Last edited by Dee4Three on Wed Feb 15, 2017 1:14 am, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
Dee4Three
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 4637
Joined: Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:34 pm
Location: New Hampshire, USA

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Dee4Three on Wed Feb 15, 2017 1:11 am

big-shot-ROB wrote:In the last bunch of games I've seen from the C's, Smart has been terrific on the defensive end. I wonder how many steals/game he averages.


1.6 SPG.

He has made so many game changing plays lately, and his passing has improved a lot over last year.
User avatar
Dee4Three
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 4637
Joined: Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:34 pm
Location: New Hampshire, USA

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby JaoSming on Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:42 am

What do you think is a "quality return" for AB? I may be overvaluing him, but I cannot think of any realistic trade I like for him.
Right Click Loop
phpBB [video]

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8ozxhwwmz4LJzpGAj22T5qa0ZVFBJ3yw

User avatar
JaoSming
2KTV Producer
NBA 2K Developer
 
Posts: 29827
Joined: Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:45 am
Location: 2K

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Dee4Three on Wed Feb 15, 2017 4:09 am

JaoSming wrote:What do you think is a "quality return" for AB? I may be overvaluing him, but I cannot think of any realistic trade I like for him.


Well, Serge Ibaka is off the table now. Just was traded to the Raptors.

"The Toronto Raptors have reportedly acquired Serge Ibaka from the Orlando Magic in exchange for Terrance Ross and a 2017 1st round pick. Adrian Wojnarowski of The Vertical was first to report the deal:"

http://www.nba.com/article/2017/02/14/report-serge-ibaka-toronto-raptors-trade-orlando-magic-terrence-ross/?rss=true

In regards to what I would take back for AB... I would have taken Ibaka for AB and Amir honestly, because of the teams current need and because Ibaka is in his prime.

Outside of Ibaka, it's tough. Because while I know AB is valued, I don't know HOW valued he is on a team in the middle/low end of the pack in the standings. Does AB and Amir with a late first round draft pick sign a guy like Whiteside? IDK, probably not, do the Celtics try for another play maker at the guard/forward spot to move AB? IDK. You make a valid point about who we can get in return that gives us more value. Because honestly, there are not a lot of players in the NBA at the moment that shout quality or potential in my opinion (Outside of the obvious top players).

I'm just trying to think of a move that would make sense for the C's. Yes we could stay with what we have, we are winning a lot of games. But I think if a move that presents itself makes sense (for say, AB/Amir), I would pull the trigger.

I mean, does Vucevic make sense?
User avatar
Dee4Three
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 4637
Joined: Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:34 pm
Location: New Hampshire, USA

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby air gordon on Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:57 am

what do the celts do with IT on defense when in the playoffs against the stronger teams?? they going to hide him on on Carroll against the Raptors? or how about the Cavs? JR Smith when he's healthy?

IMO you're going to need bradley for those teams otherwise a lot of pressure will be on the rest of the defense because IT can't defend.
Fire GarPax
User avatar
air gordon
 
Posts: 7066
Joined: Wed Nov 13, 2002 4:06 pm
Location: windy city

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Dee4Three on Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:02 am

air gordon wrote:what do the celts do with IT on defense when in the playoffs against the stronger teams?? they going to hide him on on Carroll against the Raptors? or how about the Cavs? JR Smith when he's healthy?

IMO you're going to need bradley for those teams otherwise a lot of pressure will be on the rest of the defense because IT can't defend.


I don't see him as that big of a liability I guess. I guess you have a point, where the better teams may try to exploit him more. But Thomas will be on the floor for BIG MINUTES anyway in the playoffs, he will be out there know matter what. With Crowder and Smart at the 2 and 3, and with a rim protector (which I was hoping was going to be Ibaka) alongside Horford, I think we would be fine.
User avatar
Dee4Three
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 4637
Joined: Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:34 pm
Location: New Hampshire, USA

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby air gordon on Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:15 am

there's no doubt IT will be playing big minutes and putting up big numbers on offense

its just something to consider... as well as per 82games.com the most successful lineups (and have the most minutes stephens has given) the celts have this year include bradley

http://www.82games.com/1617/1617BOS2.HTM
Fire GarPax
User avatar
air gordon
 
Posts: 7066
Joined: Wed Nov 13, 2002 4:06 pm
Location: windy city

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Dee4Three on Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:18 am

air gordon wrote:there's no doubt IT will be playing big minutes and putting up big numbers on offense

its just something to consider... as well as per 82games.com the most successful lineups (and have the most minutes stephens has given) the celts have this year include bradley

http://www.82games.com/1617/1617BOS2.HTM


Makes sense. And I am not saying they are not good with him on the floor. I am saying we don't necessarily need him. Like I said, the W column I think will stay the same, my idea was to use him as a trade chip to feed into a bigger need the team has.
User avatar
Dee4Three
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 4637
Joined: Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:34 pm
Location: New Hampshire, USA

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby air gordon on Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:46 am

point taken. maybe someone like Taj Gibson could be had. probably would just have to give up a late 1st pick. Im sure the interest will be higher from all the NBA teams if the brooklyn pick is included. just saying ;)
Fire GarPax
User avatar
air gordon
 
Posts: 7066
Joined: Wed Nov 13, 2002 4:06 pm
Location: windy city

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby JaoSming on Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:20 am

I've just been buying into too much hype with possible "blow it up" trades for the Bulls or Pacers. Celtics getting Butler or PG13 for both Brooklyn picks, Amir, & Jerebko or another 5mill piece.



....love/hate this time of year
Right Click Loop
phpBB [video]

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8ozxhwwmz4LJzpGAj22T5qa0ZVFBJ3yw

User avatar
JaoSming
2KTV Producer
NBA 2K Developer
 
Posts: 29827
Joined: Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:45 am
Location: 2K

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby NovU on Wed Feb 15, 2017 2:49 pm

I knew Isaiah was gonna become huge given the chance. No wonder Kings and Suns suck today while Celtics are enjoying a serious run.
THX TO DOPE-JAO FOR THE SPECIAL SIG! <3
Image
Enjoy! <3 Jao
User avatar
NovU
Crap, what am I going to brag about now?
 
Posts: 10800
Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2007 6:50 pm

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Dee4Three on Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:10 pm

I'm frustrated that we didn't make a move for Ibaka, look at all the props the Raptors are getting for that move, especially with the perfect time of it (Love going down). Maybe they did and I just don't know it, but I know we could have put a better package together for them. We let the Raptors get better with that move.

Also, I feel you JaoSming, so many possibilities have been going through my head. I can imagine Danny Ainge is just making sure it's 100% right before he does something, considering how solid we have been with what we have. It will certainly be interesting to see what we come up with.

And yeah Thomas is crazy. Huge surprise to me. When we got him, I was excited, but I had no idea he would turn into this.
User avatar
Dee4Three
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 4637
Joined: Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:34 pm
Location: New Hampshire, USA

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby air gordon on Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:09 am

IT has been awesome. one of the local beat guys is saying this single season is the best ever from a scoring output for the celtics (pre bird).

and just to add regarding IT's defense. he ranks last amongst PGs in Nba defensive real plus minus

still some time for boston to make a move.
Fire GarPax
User avatar
air gordon
 
Posts: 7066
Joined: Wed Nov 13, 2002 4:06 pm
Location: windy city

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Dee4Three on Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:52 am

air gordon wrote:IT has been awesome. one of the local beat guys is saying this single season is the best ever from a scoring output for the celtics (pre bird).

and just to add regarding IT's defense. he ranks last amongst PGs in Nba defensive real plus minus

still some time for boston to make a move.


I didn't know that stat about Thomas. I think it's because when I watch the C's play this year it doesn't seem like he's being exploited. Also, I think he makes up for his shortcomings on defense with his offensive repertoire, so maybe I'm blinded by that.

In regards to Ibaka, I guess Bradley's injury is worse than previously reported. I remember when he first went down, they said he would be out for a few games, but it's been over a month now. I think we didn't make that move for Ibaka because it's known that Bradley's injury Is worse than previously reported. Just my opinion.

Plenty of time to make a move or two still.
User avatar
Dee4Three
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 4637
Joined: Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:34 pm
Location: New Hampshire, USA

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby air gordon on Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:58 am

top 3 for PG's and 4th overall for offensive rpm. that is pretty darn good.

seems like boston's had a key player injured all year. silver lining is Smart and Brown have gotten some good minutes/development. how many games have they had a full roster?
Fire GarPax
User avatar
air gordon
 
Posts: 7066
Joined: Wed Nov 13, 2002 4:06 pm
Location: windy city

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Dee4Three on Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:05 am

Honestly, not sure. I just tried to find that info. Jaylen Brown has been down off and on, we had a few players out due to illness (I think Smart and Johnson), Crowder/Bradley/Horford have been out off and on. Not sure.

Smart has really taken advantage of his elevated minutes, same with Brown. Honestly, Brown did a great job stepping into the starting lineup and playing solid. His defense is already at a veteran NBA level, and he can guard 3 positions. I watch off the ball a lot, and he always seems to be doing the right thing. Offensively, minus some bonehead "Get up in the air and not know what to do" plays, he does a decent job. His shot is way better than advertised, I don't consider his jump shot a weak part of his game. It looks smooth, I like when he shoots it.

And I have really warmed up to Olynyk this year, he brings us exactly what we need coming off the bench. He can flat out score, and he's picking his spots better this year. With him and Green off the bench, we have a good scoring punch. Green's stats this year are almost identical to his rookie season with the C's, with a lower FG%. But, it's the way he is playing that is so much smarter. Which proves that sometimes stats don't tell the whole story. Green is used now as a go to when he is in the game with the second unit, he's trusted. In his rookie season with the C's, he was known as a knucklehead who couldn't figure out any of the teams plays, and was sporadic. He's grown up a lot.

If any trade happens, I'd like to hold on to Gerald Green. I love what he brings to the second unit.
User avatar
Dee4Three
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 4637
Joined: Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:34 pm
Location: New Hampshire, USA

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Dee4Three on Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:30 am

Also, we were in play for Ibaka and were in discussions with the Magic. I guess they wanted Rozier, Amir Johnson and a future first round pick.

http://thesportsdaily.com/reds-army/your-morning-dump-where-terry-rozier-is-still-a-celtic/

"But the team many expected to contend with the Cavs this season, fourth-place Toronto, has traded Terrence Ross and a first-round pick to Orlando for Serge Ibaka, which addresses their greatest need. In doing so, they automatically get back in the hunt for the top spot in the East.

There was a report the Celtics shunned an Ibaka deal because they didn’t want to trade Terry Rozier. While a league source indicated that the Magic did, in fact, have internal discussions about a potential deal with Boston that would have included Rozier, multiple sources contacted on Tuesday said that Orlando’s preferred deal for Ibaka for the last several weeks has been to acquire Ross and a first-round pick.

And from the Celtics’ perspective, giving up Rozier, Amir Johnson (most likely) and one of their two upcoming picks from Brooklyn just didn’t make a lot of sense since Ibaka who will be an unrestricted free agent this summer.

So where does this leave the Celtics?

While they are playing great basketball right now, they could benefit from having one more rebounding/defensive frontcourt specialist to the mix.

But adding such a player likely means trading away a couple of players from the current roster, which has been successful despite an assortment of key players being out with injuries and illnesses all season."
User avatar
Dee4Three
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 4637
Joined: Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:34 pm
Location: New Hampshire, USA

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Dee4Three on Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:37 am

User avatar
Dee4Three
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 4637
Joined: Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:34 pm
Location: New Hampshire, USA

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby JaoSming on Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:07 am

I'd give up the pick(s) for him.....I don't know if we have enough pieces to give up to eat his salary though.

Without a 3rd team, it'd have to be Amir + AB/Zeller + Smart/Olynyk

And I'm sure a pick would be in there too.......not enough Ainge magic in this for me to go for it.
Right Click Loop
phpBB [video]

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8ozxhwwmz4LJzpGAj22T5qa0ZVFBJ3yw

User avatar
JaoSming
2KTV Producer
NBA 2K Developer
 
Posts: 29827
Joined: Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:45 am
Location: 2K

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Sauru on Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:53 am

i personally dont give up both picks for im based simply on the fact that we still are not good enough to beat the warriors and probably not even the cavs. as happy i am to see the celtics do well i know that we cannot win the championship this season so i would hate to see us throw away a potential 10+year superstar just to come in second in the east. there is not a single player in the nba right now thats not already playing for the cavs or warriors that makes the celtics nba champs this season. so i personally want to play a longer game
User avatar
Sauru
 
Posts: 7514
Joined: Sat Sep 06, 2003 11:01 am

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby NovU on Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:09 pm

Ibaka's been on downhill steadily for past 4 seasons. Worries are legit. Risk is great.
THX TO DOPE-JAO FOR THE SPECIAL SIG! <3
Image
Enjoy! <3 Jao
User avatar
NovU
Crap, what am I going to brag about now?
 
Posts: 10800
Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2007 6:50 pm

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby big-shot-ROB on Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:14 pm

I have already expressed my opinion: Not even in the best case scenario, which would be the Cs work a way to trade for Demarcus Cousins does assure they get past the ECF.

The second worst team in the NBA has double the wins Brooklyn has. That nearly garantees the 1/2 pick. We could get Fultz, which seems is the second coming of a defensive Damian Lillard. That would allow us to pack Rozier along with others to trade for a big, and we would still hold the 2018 BKN pick to draft one.

Fultz-Smart-Brown is not a bad outside lineup for the future.
Image
User avatar
big-shot-ROB
Robert Horry is better than MJ, because everybody knows that 7>6.
 
Posts: 1082
Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2014 6:59 pm
Location: Manresa, Catalonia, Europe

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Dee4Three on Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:03 am

So you don't think Paul George or Andre Drummond can push us passed Cleveland? I think it could potentially get us passed them, but I'd still be terrified of the Warriors
User avatar
Dee4Three
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 4637
Joined: Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:34 pm
Location: New Hampshire, USA

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Dee4Three on Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:22 am

JaoSming wrote:I'd give up the pick(s) for him.....I don't know if we have enough pieces to give up to eat his salary though.

Without a 3rd team, it'd have to be Amir + AB/Zeller + Smart/Olynyk

And I'm sure a pick would be in there too.......not enough Ainge magic in this for me to go for it.


I'm not sure Drummond gets us over the hump in close games. I have an issue with his inability to be on the floor in tight games due to his FT shooting. Yes, he would have a much higher impact during regulation than Amir Johnson, and would absolutely fill the rebound void, but what happens when we need a big board or stop down the stretch?
User avatar
Dee4Three
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 4637
Joined: Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:34 pm
Location: New Hampshire, USA

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby air gordon on Fri Feb 17, 2017 6:22 am

NovU wrote:Ibaka's been on downhill steadily for past 4 seasons. Worries are legit. Risk is great.

Yep. Block rate especially. While we applaud ujiri for cockblocking boston, makes you wonder why Orlando gave up ibaka.. Especially when u consider they traded dipo and rights to sabonis for him
Fire GarPax
User avatar
air gordon
 
Posts: 7066
Joined: Wed Nov 13, 2002 4:06 pm
Location: windy city

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Sauru on Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:54 am

Dee4Three wrote:So you don't think Paul George or Andre Drummond can push us passed Cleveland? I think it could potentially get us passed them, but I'd still be terrified of the Warriors



i dont think there is anyone in the nba who brings the celtics to the next level. i want to see them go for a potential 10+ year elite level player. as well as thomas as played for us i am not sold on him as far as a deep playoff run is concerned. if durant would have signed with us i would have begged them to trade the picks and get us another player and in that case i actually would consider the celtics the favorite however KD took the easy out so now the celtics need to plan more long term imo
User avatar
Sauru
 
Posts: 7514
Joined: Sat Sep 06, 2003 11:01 am

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Dee4Three on Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:22 pm

I don't know if you guys are watching the Celtics play the Bulls right now, but that foul call on Marcus Smart might be the worst call I've ever seen.
User avatar
Dee4Three
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 4637
Joined: Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:34 pm
Location: New Hampshire, USA

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Sauru on Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:21 pm

that "foul" was fucking bullshit
User avatar
Sauru
 
Posts: 7514
Joined: Sat Sep 06, 2003 11:01 am

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby big-shot-ROB on Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:07 pm

I was watching it live here in Spain. Punched the TV so hard I might have to purchase a new one. The """foul""" was called after Butler missed the shot. Why does not the NBA implement fines and techs to refs? Because this season they have been horrendous.
Image
User avatar
big-shot-ROB
Robert Horry is better than MJ, because everybody knows that 7>6.
 
Posts: 1082
Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2014 6:59 pm
Location: Manresa, Catalonia, Europe

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Andrew on Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:52 pm

Smart pretty clearly caught Butler's elbow with his block attempt. Is the elbow a part of the ball too, now? I absolutely think fouls should be called on the "snake bite"; if you hit someone on the elbow while they're shooting, it's going to throw off the shot.

That being said, I do agree that late whistles that seem to depend on whether the shot goes in or not are a bad look for the league. On one hand, it would've looked bad if Smart got away with a snake bite on a potential gamewinning shot, and the Bulls would be rightly upset about it. At the same time, a delayed whistle also looks bad and seems like a cheap bailout, even if you could reasonably call it a foul. If you're going to call the foul - whether that call is fair, obvious, questionable, or whatever - call it right away, and don't wait for the result. You don't want to see a game decided like that.
NLSC Webmaster/Administrator
Image
Contact: Email | Twitter
Release Threads: NBA Live 08 | NBA Live 07 | NBA Live 06 | NBA Live 2005 | NBA Live 2004
Story Threads: NBA 2K13 | NBA Live 06 (Part 2) | NBA Live 06 (HOF) | NBA Live 2004 (HOF)
NLSC: Podcast | The Friday Five | Monday Tip-Off | Wayback Wednesday | 20th Anniversary of NBA Live | Facebook | Twitter | YouTube


Support The NLSC Hosting Fund: Patreon | GoFundMe

Image
Like my work? Want to help out with the NLSC Hosting Fund? Please consider leaving a tip!
User avatar
Andrew
No context necessary.
Administrator
 
Posts: 101085
Joined: Thu Aug 22, 2002 8:51 pm
Location: Australia

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby mp3 on Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:16 pm

It looks like Smart may of just grazed the elbow slightly with his finger but yeah that late whistle screams "bailout". Did the ref have money on the game I wonder?
User avatar
mp3
 
Posts: 4484
Joined: Mon Feb 24, 2003 12:45 am

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Andrew on Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:01 pm

phpBB [video]


I originally saw the replay on Instagram. Watching it again there, yeah, there's some contact but not a lot. Even if it's enough for a foul, the late whistle still looks bad. Snake bites should be foul calls, but watching it again, probably not quite enough force and contact there.
NLSC Webmaster/Administrator
Image
Contact: Email | Twitter
Release Threads: NBA Live 08 | NBA Live 07 | NBA Live 06 | NBA Live 2005 | NBA Live 2004
Story Threads: NBA 2K13 | NBA Live 06 (Part 2) | NBA Live 06 (HOF) | NBA Live 2004 (HOF)
NLSC: Podcast | The Friday Five | Monday Tip-Off | Wayback Wednesday | 20th Anniversary of NBA Live | Facebook | Twitter | YouTube


Support The NLSC Hosting Fund: Patreon | GoFundMe

Image
Like my work? Want to help out with the NLSC Hosting Fund? Please consider leaving a tip!
User avatar
Andrew
No context necessary.
Administrator
 
Posts: 101085
Joined: Thu Aug 22, 2002 8:51 pm
Location: Australia

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Dee4Three on Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:17 am

Yeah, the whistle blew after the ball already hit the rim.

Ruined my night. So bummed.
User avatar
Dee4Three
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 4637
Joined: Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:34 pm
Location: New Hampshire, USA

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Dee4Three on Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:37 am

Andrew wrote:
phpBB [video]


I originally saw the replay on Instagram. Watching it again there, yeah, there's some contact but not a lot. Even if it's enough for a foul, the late whistle still looks bad. Snake bites should be foul calls, but watching it again, probably not quite enough force and contact there.


I have trouble seeing ANY contact to be honest with you. On that front view where you see Smart stretching as much as he possibly can to contest, I see his fingers completely stretched out and I am not convinced he's making contact. If he's touching his arm hair, it shouldn't be a foul. Not only that, calling it after the ball has already hit the rim is a HUGE no-no. I hope the ref gets reprimanded, but probably not.
User avatar
Dee4Three
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 4637
Joined: Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:34 pm
Location: New Hampshire, USA

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Andrew on Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:49 am

It looks like there's some contact, and Butler does short arm the shot, which a snake bite will force you to do. Still, if there's enough contact for there to be a foul, blow the whistle straight away. No disagreement there.
NLSC Webmaster/Administrator
Image
Contact: Email | Twitter
Release Threads: NBA Live 08 | NBA Live 07 | NBA Live 06 | NBA Live 2005 | NBA Live 2004
Story Threads: NBA 2K13 | NBA Live 06 (Part 2) | NBA Live 06 (HOF) | NBA Live 2004 (HOF)
NLSC: Podcast | The Friday Five | Monday Tip-Off | Wayback Wednesday | 20th Anniversary of NBA Live | Facebook | Twitter | YouTube


Support The NLSC Hosting Fund: Patreon | GoFundMe

Image
Like my work? Want to help out with the NLSC Hosting Fund? Please consider leaving a tip!
User avatar
Andrew
No context necessary.
Administrator
 
Posts: 101085
Joined: Thu Aug 22, 2002 8:51 pm
Location: Australia

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Dee4Three on Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:51 am

And I look at this Joel Anthony double dribble, that they didn't call... so you don't see Joel Anthony with the blatant double dribble, but you see Marcus Smart clip Butlers arm hair?

phpBB [video]


Eh, sorry still steaming.... I'll get over it soon, I promise.
User avatar
Dee4Three
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 4637
Joined: Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:34 pm
Location: New Hampshire, USA

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby air gordon on Sat Feb 18, 2017 4:40 am

Welcome to NBA stardom, Jimmy Buckets

His reaction of being hit on the elbow after the release sounded legit

Wouldn't want to be on the other side of that call. Good game
Fire GarPax
User avatar
air gordon
 
Posts: 7066
Joined: Wed Nov 13, 2002 4:06 pm
Location: windy city

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby big-shot-ROB on Sun Feb 19, 2017 5:06 am

I just hope the Nets do also terribly bad in 2018 so we can draft Luka Doncic with any of the top-3 overall pick.
Image
User avatar
big-shot-ROB
Robert Horry is better than MJ, because everybody knows that 7>6.
 
Posts: 1082
Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2014 6:59 pm
Location: Manresa, Catalonia, Europe

Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Sauru on Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:40 am

i would be satisfied to say the least if the celtics could land a top 3 pick 2 years in a row
User avatar
Sauru
 
Posts: 7514
Joined: Sat Sep 06, 2003 11:01 am

Next

Return to NBA & Basketball

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests