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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Sauru on Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:22 am

i would be ok with the 1st and 3rd also
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Andrew on Mon Jun 19, 2017 10:46 am

The Cavs had the first and fourth picks in 2011. That might be the closest we've seen so far, at least in the modern era.
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Sauru on Mon Jun 19, 2017 11:34 am

https://twitter.com/thescore/status/876502777014439937

ok so there is zero chance this will happen but man would that make my day
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby JaoSming on Mon Jun 19, 2017 12:53 pm

I mean, if you can convince the Pelicans that they have no chance to compete in the West and should instead rebuild over the next 3 years with 4-5 extra first round picks, sure.

But Boogie. It would be insane though
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Sauru on Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:14 pm

getting AD and GW would be pretty nice. good enough to come in second next season
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby NovU on Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:20 pm

I hope it doesn't happen in support for parity of the league. Hey, Celtics. Congratulations for coming 1st place in EAST! Here is Anthony Davis!
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Sauru on Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:26 pm

NovU wrote:I hope it doesn't happen in support for parity of the league. Hey, Celtics. Congratulations for coming 1st place in EAST! Here is Anthony Davis!



its not like he would be handed over. basically we would have to give up our entire stockpile of picks just to start
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby NovU on Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:31 pm

In second though I actually wouldn't mind another superteam being created if to compete a reigning superteam. AD certainly would be able to do that if the Celtics don't give up talent like Isaiah in the process.

Instead of 2 team league, we'd have 3 team league. Fuck the parity.
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Sauru on Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:40 pm

maybe the spurs can nab paul and join the party
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby air gordon on Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:23 am

If you think Thomas is not in future- who's the pick wh@3?!? Fox? Jackson?!
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Sauru on Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:32 am

i am worried that the celtics now believe thomas is the future
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby NovU on Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:34 pm

I think Thomas is a perfect future if they can land AD. There's not many perimeter player with such high caliber offense. Could offer to be nice 1 2 punch imho. But him alone you probably should settle for mediocrity. He's not on Curry/Durant/LBJ level obviously.



Btw, I am also intrigued to see whom they will get with 3rd pick. If somehow Lonzo ends up being a Celt, I will cry 'rigged'.
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby big-shot-ROB on Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:55 pm

I've just recently read if Lakers picks doesn't convey, SAC pick is top-1 protected.
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Sauru on Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:03 pm

big-shot-ROB wrote:I've just recently read if Lakers picks doesn't convey, SAC pick is top-1 protected.


yeah basically philly said they will not give us a number 1 pick at all. so worst case situation for the celtics would be we get the 76ers 2019 first round pick. best case we have the 1 and 2 pick next season
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby big-shot-ROB on Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:38 pm

Sauru wrote:
big-shot-ROB wrote:I've just recently read if Lakers picks doesn't convey, SAC pick is top-1 protected.


yeah basically philly said they will not give us a number 1 pick at all. so worst case situation for the celtics would be we get the 76ers 2019 first round pick. best case we have the 1 and 2 pick next season


So if Lakers picks goes 1 or 6+ next year, and SAC one goes 1 too in 2019, they have the right to swap it for their 2019 own pick?
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Sauru on Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:15 pm

its not a swap we would just get the philly pick instead which probably wont be that great in 2019. personally i just hope the lakers suck this year and it lands 2-5 so i dont have to sweat out 2019


edit: well i am assuming too much here. we will get the kings or 76ers pick in 2019, whichever one is better unless one of those is the first pick then we automatically get the other one
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby big-shot-ROB on Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:52 pm

Sauru wrote:its not a swap we would just get the philly pick instead which probably wont be that great in 2019. personally i just hope the lakers suck this year and it lands 2-5 so i dont have to sweat out 2019


edit: well i am assuming too much here. we will get the kings or 76ers pick in 2019, whichever one is better unless one of those is the first pick then we automatically get the other one


Remember how 2 weeks later after the KG and PP trade we knew about all the picks? I think it is the same situation. We will only see everything clearer after 1 week when all the information gets out.
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Jackal on Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:29 pm

The Lakers better step up their shit this season. Pick 6 and above only you mini Lakers!!
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby air gordon on Wed Jun 21, 2017 2:32 am

This is just speculation based...

Since ainge bent Brooklyn over multiple times, are other GM's reluctant to deal with him?

I'm hearing part of the reason Boston traded down was to save some cap. If they stuck with #1 Boston would have had to trade an end of bench player in order to still be a player for Hayward

Even a shit show management show like garpax traded Calderon and dunleavy in a matter of hours to clear cap for the Wade signing
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby [Q] on Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:08 am

Jackal wrote:The Lakers better step up their shit this season. Pick 6 and above only you mini Lakers!!

That's asking for a lot, but you never know. Maybe Magic will just give up and suit up for the team lol
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Sauru on Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:55 am

what is this shit that the celtics are talking about getting porzingis? its like the media is trying its best to fuck with me this off season
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby big-shot-ROB on Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:58 pm

I am trading Smart, Crowder, Bradley, #3 and LAC&MEM picks for him. BKN and LAL/SAC picks are untouchable. #3 or Brown could be swapped, but I've felt too much in love with that guy. Jackson has yet to win my heart. He'll have to earn it, and beating women to show off in front of me is not getting it done.
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Dee4Three on Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:23 am

I love the Tatum pick.

I hope we keep him.
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby JaoSming on Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:33 am

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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby shadowgrin on Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:38 am

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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby JaoSming on Fri Jun 23, 2017 12:25 pm

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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Dee4Three on Sat Jun 24, 2017 12:37 am

I hope we throw Tatum into the mix early, he will learn by being on the floor. I'm tired of seeing many rookies getting DNP's, or not getting the time they should to develop in real game time.

His game is so fun to watch, he is an above average ball handler at 6'8" as well.

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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby big-shot-ROB on Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:21 pm

I think we are all sleeping on Semi...
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby air gordon on Tue Jun 27, 2017 3:17 am

JaoSming wrote:LOVE IT DAMMIT

So now that the Celtics are stocked up on sf/pf positon should they still go after Hayward/Griffin? I like the semi pick
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Jackal on Thu Jul 06, 2017 2:14 am

One player worth keeping an eye on, two league executives told The Vertical: Memphis’ Marc Gasol. The Grizzlies lost Zach Randolph, Tony Allen could be next out the door, and if you were filling out your Western Conference playoff bracket today, Memphis probably wouldn’t be in it. Would the Grizz move the 32-year-old Gasol for a ready-made rebuilding package of players and picks? Would Boston – which has to be wary of putting together a team that would beat Cleveland but still get pulverized by Golden State – be interested? Again, worth watching.

Source.

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I've read Smart is being shopped as it is. Losing Crowder would suck for their small-ball line up but Bradley would hurt the most. Would you guys rather lose Bradley or one of the young, recently drafted forwards?

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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Sauru on Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:20 am

pretty sure bradley is gone anyway next season and we aint winning it all this year so i would trade bradley and keep the young guys. then again i am still of the mind set to trade thomas instead of paying him so what do i know
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Andrew on Thu Jul 06, 2017 10:13 am

Celtics should be wary about giving up the picks, though. Gasol's still a fine player, but he is 32, so it remains to be seen how long he'll remain at that level. He also has a strange pattern of alternating seasons of being healthy and injured; he's due to miss a significant amount of games this season, if that trend continues.
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby NovU on Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:35 am

Jackal wrote:I've read Smart is being shopped as it is. Losing Crowder would suck for their small-ball line up but Bradley would hurt the most. Would you guys rather lose Bradley or one of the young, recently drafted forwards?


Neither Smart or Bradley are game changers with high peak. I think having to overpay potential game changers like Isaiah and Hayward is better than paying a lot of slightly above average players. Higher risk higher payout.

More than Smart and Bradley, losing Jae Crowder will be big imo.



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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Sauru on Thu Jul 06, 2017 12:16 pm

Andrew wrote:Celtics should be wary about giving up the picks, though. Gasol's still a fine player, but he is 32, so it remains to be seen how long he'll remain at that level. He also has a strange pattern of alternating seasons of being healthy and injured; he's due to miss a significant amount of games this season, if that trend continues.



i continue to say i do not want to see the celtics trade away their top picks. if they give away the brooklyn pick i will be beyond disappointed. i do not want to see them drop the LAL/SAK pick either. at this point i say trade the players. there is no point in us having 78 forwards anyway. i personally prefer to keep tatum also
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby air gordon on Fri Jul 07, 2017 1:05 am

NovU wrote:
Jackal wrote:I've read Smart is being shopped as it is. Losing Crowder would suck for their small-ball line up but Bradley would hurt the most. Would you guys rather lose Bradley or one of the young, recently drafted forwards?


Neither Smart or Bradley are game changers with high peak. I think having to overpay potential game changers like Isaiah and Hayward is better than paying a lot of slightly above average players. Higher risk higher payout.

More than Smart and Bradley, losing Jae Crowder will be bige.

As long as IT is on the team, one of smart or Bradley has to be on the team. Bradley's defense was key in the playoffs

Too bad Bradley can't create and smart can't hit an outside shot. I would bet on smart finding his outside shot over Bradley dribbling

I think crowder's value is slightly inflated cuz Horford stinks on defense and he's on that value contract. If Tatum is the real deal, crowder is expendable
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby NovU on Fri Jul 07, 2017 1:58 am

I think Crowder's value in offense cannot be ignored. He pretty much equals Avery Braley's production in much less usage. I'd rather replace Avery with Hayward than Crowder. They also get bigger that way.

Tatum being an ISO guy, I think he'll be very inefficient especially for the first year. I can imaging him being a fan favorite though.
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby air gordon on Fri Jul 07, 2017 2:29 am

Fair point. I think Bradley makes a bigger impact on defense. You can put Bradley on elite pg or sg's. It was him, not crowder, that limited Butler. He took on wall while crowder... guarded no shot creating porter. And crowder was owned by James

Also brown is a potential crowder replacement

Hayward is nice. Imagine a backcourt of him and IT with Horford protecting the lane. The offense would be great though
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby [Q] on Fri Jul 07, 2017 6:21 am

Not sure why they seemingly value crowder so much with Gordon, brown, and Tatum now. I didn't really watch any Boston games, but I don't really remember him being much help on the offensive end either
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Sauru on Fri Jul 07, 2017 6:51 pm

[Q] wrote:Not sure why they seemingly value crowder so much with Gordon, brown, and Tatum now. I didn't really watch any Boston games, but I don't really remember him being much help on the offensive end either



boston has a habit of over valuing role players. once upon a time walter mccarty was a god in boston. this is usually seen as annoying by fans from other cities but its also why players love playing in boston
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby NovU on Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:46 pm

Crowder's contract is friendly and is a nice trade asset since he's also a nice player that other teams actually want. Averaging 14 pts invisibly and efficiently actually requires offensive skills.

With Hayward and Isaiah, do you really need another guy that likes to put ball on the floor?
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Bruce on Fri Jul 07, 2017 9:24 pm

that feeling you get playing nba 2k or live when you have too many young assets and picks that you have to start just dumping them. In the mid to late 2000s, Olynyk would have commanded a $15m/year payday, which I think should be $25M in today's going rate. lol
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby JaoSming on Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:39 am

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/883330316911378433
The Boston Celtics are trading guard Avery Bradley and a second-round pick to the Detroit Pistons for forward Marcus Morris, league sources told ESPN.



Ugh, one of the Morris brothers? Better than AB walking for nothing this year but I don't know if he'll fit in with Boston and....

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According to @CelticsHub
Yep, no need for Celtics to do sign-and-trade with Jazz now.


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With Avery Bradley traded and Kelly Olynyk signed by Miami, Marcus Smart is now the longest tenured member of the Boston Celtics.


So, is this roster set for the season?
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby air gordon on Sat Jul 08, 2017 1:50 am

Good point novu. In Stevens system he is important

So it looks like Hayward cost olynyk and Bradley. Not a bad deal though I do kinda smirk that ainge was forced to make a trade. Heaven forbid he had to trade a good player

Morris is junk but at least his salary is done in 2yrs

Celts need a legit traditional big man imo
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Jeffx on Sun Jul 09, 2017 3:43 am

Sauru wrote:https://twitter.com/thescore/status/876502777014439937

ok so there is zero chance this will happen but man would that make my day



I said this to my friends weeks ago. If Ainge has learned from Red, I'm telling you he's working on a plan to get AD - not now, but in the near future. By then, LeBron will be on the downside and Boston will dominate the east.
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Jackal on Sat Jul 15, 2017 6:54 am

Ray Allen's number will NOT be retired. #Celtics confirm Gordon Hayward will wear No. 20.


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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Sauru on Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:27 am

Jackal wrote:
Ray Allen's number will NOT be retired. #Celtics confirm Gordon Hayward will wear No. 20.


Good. He a bitch.



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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby NovU on Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:16 am

Ungrateful bastards. Ray was a major reason they won a ship, perhaps the most important part in their run.
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby benji on Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:25 am

The Boston Celtics signed Paul Pierce Monday so that he could retire as a member of the organization.

surprised this doesn't happen as often as it could
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Andrew on Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:33 am

Seems to be a recent trend. I expect we'll see it happen more often.
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby [Q] on Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:56 pm

Andrew wrote:Seems to be a recent trend. I expect we'll see it happen more often.

I think it's dumb, just for show. Everybody knows he didn't play for Boston when he retired.

How does that work with the salary cap? Lol
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