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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Dee4Three on Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:25 am

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what you are saying is coaching has no effect on the game and its 100% on the players?

you tell me. what makes a coach a good coach? specifically a championship level coach.


What do YOU think makes a championship level coach. What qualities do YOU think they should have, Air Gordon?
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Sauru on Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:11 am

NovU wrote: Gordon's injury offered opportunities for the team, and they took full advantage of it.


i agree with this 100%. i actually said (even though i hated saying it) at the time of his injury that this is simply the best possible time for an injury like this to happen. we are not winning it this year even with hayward so him going down only gives more time for our young guys to gain experience. the celtics are set up for future years and if guys like brown continue to improve at such a rate we will be damn hard to stop. gonna be damn hard to keep them all also
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Dee4Three on Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:24 pm

Dallas is going to end the streak tonight


We were up by 15, and Smart kept jacking shots up, literally 1-9 from three. He is playing putrid basketball. If there's one knock I have on Stevens, it's him allowing Smart to be the offensive go to with the second unit. Smart literally shoots an average about 2 for 10 every game, this game it was our undoing. Marcus, stick to what you are good at, STOP SHOOTING SO MUCH.

Offensively, the Mavs are just continually going to mismatches (like Tatum guarding Dirk, and Barnes being guarded by Irving).

As I type this, Smart fouled JJ on a three.

I'll be shocked if we win this one.
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Dee4Three on Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:06 pm

KYRIE FUCKING IRVING!!!

16/22 from the floor, 5-7 threes, 47 points. Jayson Tatum was also really clutch on the boards in OT, and scoring in the 4th.

We didn't deserve this one, but damn what a finish.
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Andrew on Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:13 pm

Every streak has its close calls and lucky breaks until it finally ends. As it stands, the run continues. Looking at the schedule, they've got a good chance of tacking on a couple more. If not, sixteen in a row is still impressive, and they're a team to watch.
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Andrew on Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:34 am

And via ESPN:

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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Dee4Three on Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:58 pm

Nice work by Miami to end the streak. Waiters is so good when he's on, Dragic solid per usual.

Tatum with the good performance, but us getting down every game by double digits and winning couldn't be sustained.

Let's see how we deal with our next game after a loss.
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Andrew on Thu Nov 23, 2017 2:14 pm

I mentioned the streak, so as always, I take full responsibility for it ending. If it's any consolation, I've jinxed the Bulls far more often in recent years.
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Dee4Three on Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:04 am

I continually (On here and on Facebook) talked about how bad I wanted the Celtics to go after Drummond in the offseason, rumors were swirling at one point. Last night is why.

And his improved free throw shooting is just the icing on the cake. He is in his 5th year in the league, only 24. A stud defensively, a stud on the boards, moves in the post, and can run the floor very very well. We had no answer for him last night.

Tobias Harris was awesome, we couldn't seem to match his energy. He was all over the floor, he was so confident with his shot.

The Pistons are well coached, I feel like they may be the best coached team at this point that the Celtics have played. They went to mismatches at every chance, they were running constant screens for Bradley and Harris to curl, defensively they had the right people on the right guys at all times. They look motivated and well balanced. If they can stay the course, they could be really dangerous in the post season. I certainly wouldn't want to face them in the playoffs.

Celtics played some solid defense in this one, but the Pistons when they are rolling are really tough to stop. Celtics also had some questionable shots down the stretch, and we were almost bailed out by Smart's three's (Yes, Smarts three's).
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Jeffx on Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:23 am

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2212 ... er-dies-71


RIP to Celtics legend Jo Jo White. He was the original truth.

Game 5 of the 1976 NBA Finals........'nuff said. One of the greatest playoff performances in league history. I'll always remember Jo Jo sitting on the court exhausted in that triple OT game.
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Andrew on Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:37 am

Sort of an overlooked player, which I guess is inevitable with all the greats who played for the Celtics through the decades. It's good that they finally inducted him into the Hall of Fame a few years back, before his passing. RIP.
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Sauru on Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:36 am

my god this trade just keeps looking better and better for the celtics.
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby sticky-fingers on Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:11 am

Woj Bomb : "Greg Monroe will sign with the Boston Celtics, league source tells ESPN."

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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Dee4Three on Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:46 am

While I like the pickup, I'd really like to see Theis get more minutes (I hope this hurts Baynes more than Theis). I like how mobile Theis is, he does a good job on guards out on the perimeter when switches happen. He is also a solid shot blocker and can hit the three.
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby [Q] on Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:44 am

The rich get richer? Whatever happens in the postseason, remember you lost to the Lakers lol
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby sticky-fingers on Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:39 pm

I think it's a good move if Boston goes to the Finals.
But it will be a long road.
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Andrew on Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:47 pm

It certainly doesn't hurt to stockpile talent and stack your lineup as much as possible, especially these days. Time will tell if he's a good fit, but he's a talented big who can rebound and score inside. While stretch bigs are in vogue and the game has changed, I don't think the "traditional big" skillset is completely obsolete in today's NBA. It can change things up, and a good rebounder can be a great asset with the way teams bomb away from the three-point line.
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby [Q] on Wed Feb 07, 2018 5:17 am

(Not so) Smart seems to have busted his hand after losing to the Lakers lol
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Dee4Three on Wed Feb 07, 2018 5:41 am

[Q] wrote:The rich get richer? Whatever happens in the postseason, remember you lost to the Lakers lol


Well, I mean... considering Greg Monroe is a "shit big" according to some folks around here, this pickup is meaningless.

But in reality (lets stick to reality), Greg Monroe gives the Celtics what it needs off the bench... which is scoring and rebounding. Greg Monroe against other teams second units can do damage, and with his experience he will be a strong asset come playoff time. Marcus Smart has been the main shooter off the bench (He's shooting a blistering .357 from the field this season...). When we go to the second unit and he's running the show, it looks ugly at times. Greg Monroe gives us a consistent offensive option down low, he is far more skilled down low than other backup bigs (And some starting bigs). Smart may not even be with Boston after the trade deadline as it is (I wonder what Jordan Crawford is up to nowadays...).

Semi-kidding on Jordan Crawford, although he can put the ball in the hole. The signing of Monroe has been put on hold though so the Celtics can have flexibility before the end of the trade deadline. Personally, I'd like to see some lineups featuring Monroe and Theis, as Theis has proven to be a capable defender on the perimeter.

In regards to a move for Smart, I've never been sold on him. He's a hustle machine, but he's a bonehead at the same time. For every great hustle play he makes, he makes a dumb play. I think his value is that he is still relatively young, and he certainly gives a team a boost on the boards (at the guard position), and just overall defensively. The problem is: It's pretty well known that Marcus Smart has hit his ceiling, we have seen the best of him. So his value isn't high in that regard.

Knowing that we are going to make a strong push this year for a title, hard for me to stomach just giving him up for a pick. If we do, obviously I would want a first rounder. Would I package him with anybody for another player who can come in and contribute right away on the bench? I'm willing to part with Semi Ojeleye and Abdel Nader, and as much as I love what Baynes brings to the table sometimes, if we bring in Monroe and have Theis also as a big, I could let Baynes go. I am more fond of Theis and what he brings on both offense and defense.
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Andrew on Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:01 am

It seems like Smart fancies himself to be a better shooter than he really is. That's a liability no matter the era; when you're not a versatile, multi-faceted talent, you've got to stick with what you're good at, and not try to be something you definitely aren't. By all means work to add something to your game, though preferably in practice, not games that count.
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Dee4Three on Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:11 am

Andrew wrote:It seems like Smart fancies himself to be a better shooter than he really is. That's a liability no matter the era; when you're not a versatile, multi-faceted talent, you've got to stick with what you're good at, and not try to be something you definitely aren't. By all means work to add something to your game, though preferably in practice, not games that count.


Agreed. Smarts shot selection is horrible...and as much as I love Brad Stevens, I scratch my head at the fact that he has let that Shor selection go on for so long. He has single handedly put us in a hole in some games because of his shooting.
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Jackie Kong on Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:36 pm

I am starting to doubt whether Celtics should have offered a bit more for Tyreke Evans or not.
At the end of the day, Ainge was probably right though given that Grizzlies did not receive any better proposal. If they would rather let him walk for free that's their thing. :roll:
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby air gordon on Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:10 am

Dude they got Monroe. Championship!
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Sauru on Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:10 pm

air gordon wrote:Dude they got Monroe. Championship!



its a done deal. we probably gonna get KD next season because of it
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby NovU on Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:12 am

Marcus Smart is out for the regular season and hopes to come back for the playoffs. How will this effect the team's chance in PO and rest of the way?

He was averaging 30 minutes per game and that is huge shoes to fill even though the Celtics are a deep team.
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Re: Boston Celtics Thread

Postby Dee4Three on Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:17 am

NovU wrote:Marcus Smart is out for the regular season and hopes to come back for the playoffs. How will this effect the team's chance in PO and rest of the way?

He was averaging 30 minutes per game and that is huge shoes to fill even though the Celtics are a deep team.


I think that we can manage with Rozier logging more minutes at the 2, and Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum logging more minutes as well.

Rozier has shown to be effective off the ball at the 2. He is a capable rebounder like Marcus, and a solid defender. It's the playoffs, I'm sure logging extra minutes for these ridiculously young guys will be fine.

I also like Roziers decision making a lot more, as Smart puts up a lot of questionable shots (and shoots an abysmal FG%). If the Celtics run into a situation where Semi Ojeleye or Adel Nader need to log a decent amount of minutes, we could be in trouble. Semi while solid on defense, doesn't give us anything on the other end. And Abdel just isn't confident, he reminds me of James Young in that regard from last year. I think Brad will keep his rotations short and play those guys as little as possible.

I've never been a Smart fan, so obviously I think we can fair well without him. If he comes back for the Playoffs, I don't think he will come back and different from before. In fact, maybe it will discourage him from shooting so much and actually focus on what hes good at (On ball defense, hustle, rebounding, and sometimes distributing).
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