The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

[graybakflip]

So it's official, after the long search for the new HC job, from Phil, Sloan, Hollins, Van Gundy's, Shaw the search is now over. Rumors since last week started as "The Mystery Man" but after the greatest PG retired, speculations was JKidd was that man, well not that bad since he's one of the greatest BBIQ's, and he will surely lure some of the FA's. WELCOME BACK CAPTAIN KIDD!..



I was expecting Shaw(interviewed for 4 hrs by Billy King) then few hours later BK told Shaw that it wasn't him.

[Andrew]

and he will surely lure some of the FA's.

So long as they're willing to sign for the minimum/MLE. With the Nets' payrolll, that's all they can offer.

[benji]

I'd assume the Nets are over the apron, so...no MLE even. Knicks still managed to gobble up tons of 35+ year old FAs, so don't count out Brooklyn.

[shadowgrin]

after the greatest PG retired, speculations was JKidd was that man

WAT.

[graybakflip]

and he will surely lure some of the FA's.

So long as they're willing to sign for the minimum/MLE. With the Nets' payrolll, that's all they can offer.

I think JKidd has it, since he's been around the league for a long time and is respectable by many players/coaches. What I mean is not just this years FA's, and sure they have humps expiring and some picks to throw for a potential trade.

after the greatest PG retired, speculations was JKidd was that man

WAT.

IMHO, he's the best PG, the history where he made the NJNETS relevant from a mediocre team to a trip to the finals(2) with just a bunch of nobodies, one of the youngest teams in PO's history for the past 15 yrs(2002/2003), from no "J" to 3rd over-all in 3's made, his 3ple doubles are no joke..

[_Steve_]

If you are looking for triple doubles Magic would be the man to look for.
Magic or Stockton would be my choices for best PG ever (at least in 3pt-era), with Kidd being #3.

[Jackal]

The Nets need a less fat point guard.Imho

[NovU]

If you are looking for triple doubles Magic would be the man to look for.
Magic or Stockton would be my choices for best PG ever (at least in 3pt-era), with Kidd being #3.

How about that Canadien guy who was the first point guard to ever win the MVP? Two years in a row. No joke eh? Then we have Chris Paul as well. Real question is where does Kidd stand among these names.

And we need to exclude Magic because he was a definite better, than any of PGs that were mentioned.

But who cares, really. I think d-will's gonna have his ways with this Jason Kidd guy. If not, he'll execute him like he did Avery Johnson.

[_Steve_]

My personal list (3pt era) would look like:
#1 Magic
#2 Stockton
#3 Kidd
#4 Nash
#5 could become Paul
So you're Canadian fellow is still included in my top 5 despite his last year.

I'm not sure whether D-Will will kill his next coach as they are said to be friends, but we'll see how things develop.

[shadowgrin]

Canadien guy who was the first point guard to ever win the MVP? Two years in a row.

Magic Johnson is canadien? No wonder he got HIV.

[benji]

Canadien guy who was the first point guard to ever win the MVP? Two years in a row.

Magic Johnson is canadien? No wonder he got HIV.

Bob Cousy got HIV?

[NovU]

Becareful there, jealous Canadien haterz. This is a respect thread!!!

[Andrew]

I think JKidd has it, since he's been around the league for a long time and is respectable by many players/coaches. What I mean is not just this years FA's, and sure they have humps expiring and some picks to throw for a potential trade.

They're unlikely to get a great player for Kris Humphries' expiring contract, the 22nd pick in this year's Draft and any other picks they care to include. They can't do any sign-and-trade deals either, as noted here.

Brooklyn had its moments down the stretch of 2012-13, especially when star guard Deron Williams was engaged, but the team is set to spend over $86 million next year on a roster that isn’t scaring anyone, even with the Potential Greatest Coach Ever at the helm. The year after that, even after declining four player options, they’ll be at the luxury tax level with just six players on the roster. It’s true that Prokhorov doesn’t mind paying huge luxury tax bills, but his personal income isn’t the concern here. The concern is the flexibility, as tax-paying teams can’t work out sign and trade deals, and are limited in the exceptions they can hand to players to round out the roster.

[Jackal]

Why must you disrespect this team? WHY?

[SoF'nAwesome]

Magic Johnson is canadien? No wonder he got HIV.

Bob Cousy got HIV?

Boom

[graybakflip]

They're unlikely to get a great player for Kris Humphries' expiring contract, the 22nd pick in this year's Draft and any other picks they care to include. They can't do any sign-and-trade deals either, as noted here.

Yep they might not get a great player thru HBAP(hump, brooks, and multiple picks) but they can. They can can offer HBAP to i.e. Cleveland or Charlotte for a $13M trade exemption which can be very valuable at the trade deadline. If a team is looking to blow it up, Nets can be a very attractive destination as a team that can absorb a large salary without sending back anything other than Kris Joseph in return. We can also facilitate trades for other teams in return for some assets.

As for Magic Johnson, yep he's one of the greatest players and PG, but he had all the help from the team he's playing for(LA's a great franchise team, great owner), the team mates he's had(i mean LEGENDS), and let's be honest, that height he had clearly gave him some advantage. You can make an argument that LBJ is a PG too. Still IMHO JKIDD is the greatest PG. Every team he's played with had a better record when he's with them, had the best 28-0 record when playing against in'tl competitions.

[_Steve_]

Why should e.g. the Cats spent money if they can't win even with the players they might get?
What's wrong about Magic being 6 ft 9 in?

[Jackal]

That's why he isn't the best PG ever. He was tall. So that's unfair.

And imho Kidd is the best because he coaches the Nets now. That's a good enough reason. And he's short.

[Stress Fracture]

If we're just talking about height, Muggsy Bogues is the best PG ever.

[Jackal]

No, his teams didn't all turn around from losing to winning. He also had good teammates. Kidd's not too short, he's like middle height. So imho that makes him the best PG ever. If he was shorter then he wouldn't be that great because his passes are closer to the ground where he has an advantage.

[benji]

Every team he's played with had a better record when he's with them

Except the Suns, Mavs and Knicks. But one out of four isn't bad.

[SoF'nAwesome]

benji is on fire

[NovU]

Except that he's not. benji didn't address on the real issue that Kidd's short. gaybackflip won this discussion, easily.

[SoF'nAwesome]

But we were talking about Kidd & not short PG's, right?

[_Steve_]

It's all about R E S P E C T !