Chicago Bulls Thread

[Andrew]

In that case, Howard. I'll take my chances with his attitude, and hope that it's a bit better when he doesn't have to play with a high volume shooter who's disinterested in defense.

[air gordon]

3yrs of that diva. Would be an adventure. I could see the Bulls being an easy sell job for mahimi. Not so sure with Howard

Basketball insiders say Bulls draft a PG at #14 ( Baldwin )

[atlwarrior]

I rather tank for lottery picks than to have Dwight Howard on my Bulls. It'll make me angry to turn WGN and see him in a Bulls jersey. He's not worthy.

[Andrew]

I'd rather they pay him $22 million a year than pay Mahinmi $20 million a year. His attitude is a red flag, and he certainly has his faults, but there is legitimate talent there. Sometimes, it's just a matter of getting a player in the right situation. For years, I balked at the idea of the Bulls getting Zach Randolph because of his attitude. While he's still had his knuckle-headed moments late into his career, he has also matured a lot, and became an All-Star in Memphis. That's not to say that would've necessarily happened if the Bulls had acquired him all those years ago, but it's an example of a mercurial player turning into a more dependable one, and in the face of the "team cancer" label.

If I can get used to seeing Ben Wallace in a Bulls jersey, I figure I can get used to almost anything.

[air gordon]

How much more would you pay for Howard? I'm assuming he will be more coveted so it would be a bidding war

I'm not a big critic of Howard like most of the laker.. Rather I mean the posters here. He's still a force on defense and the Bulls need one big time. 2yrs I don't feel so bad about. It's that 3rd year

[Sauru]

the problem with howard he is wants to be the man and he will never be that on a championship team.

[Andrew]

I wouldn't pay him much more than $22 million a year. Fair point about that third year.

[air gordon]

the problem with howard he is wants to be the man and he will never be that on a championship team.

won't have to worry about that part if he comes to the bulls

[Moz]

How bout Ezeli? I heard that Kerr hates him and the Warriors are committed on re-signing Barnes so perhaps they can nab him off the market. Or why not just, since there's mutual interest on both camps as the reports say, do a sign and trade with the Wolves and get Dieng for Jo (along with the Kings' pick or something)? What I want them to do is just draft a capable pick and pop bigman in the draft and use their capspace on a wing in free agency (perhaps Batum is attainable?)...

[air gordon]

what kind of deal would you offer Ezeli?

JO for Dieng all day. i think for minny's side, they'd try to punt off PekPekovic's conract. maybe if there can be a mutual agreement to split the salary a deal can get done

i think batum is staying in charlotte

[Moz]

Perhaps around 13-15M? If that's the case with Batum, perhaps pick one among Bazemore, Jeff Green, or... Marvin Williams? Looking at the 2017 free agents, it'll be wiser to spend less this year since the talents are much deeper. DRose, Taj, Niko, and MDJ are off the books by then also...

[Andrew]

Glancing into the past for a moment, Sam Smith posted a nice retrospective of the first championship, in light of it being the 25th anniversary. Yeah, I feel old, too.

[air gordon]

Perhaps around 13-15M? If that's the case with Batum, perhaps pick one among Bazemore, Jeff Green, or... Marvin Williams? Looking at the 2017 free agents, it'll be wiser to spend less this year since the talents are much deeper. DRose, Taj, Niko, and MDJ are off the books by then also...

Starving Marvin would be good. Even your guy Courtney Lee

Kind of cooled off on ezeli since varejao passed him up on the depth chart. But 13-15 mil is a good contact

Rumors floating around of twolves pick for Butler. Unless Wiggins is involved, I say nah. dieng, lavine, pick for Butler??

I'll have to check out that Smith article some time

[Andrew]

In a Draft that's only two or three players deep - or so it would seem, anyway - I'd pass on that deal as well. Wiggins makes things a bit more interesting, but I still give preference to a more proven talent who's still quite young himself.

[Moz]

Glancing into the past for a moment, Sam Smith posted a nice retrospective of the first championship, in light of it being the 25th anniversary. Yeah, I feel old, too.

The lone "asterisk" championship (unless you consider '96 as such since Horace was injured in the East Finals) of the dynasty... The first championship I saw was the one against the Blazers so I don't cherish that one as much as the latter... Here's the video of the 20th anniversary reunion

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Should've done that this year instead of that time... Perhaps they're worrying that some of the players will not make it 5 years later due to the average lifespan of male afro-americans... Gutted, as MJ said it, Johnny Kerr is not around anymore...

Kind of cooled off on ezeli since varejao passed him up on the depth chart.

I heard that Kerr hates him

He's pretty dependable whenever Bogut was sidelined last season/earlier this season so I reckon he'll be a good pick-up for the right price.

Rumors floating around of twolves pick for Butler. Unless Wiggins is involved, I say nah. dieng, lavine, pick for Butler??

Word... Fuck it if it doesn't involve Wiggins. I'm not fully sold on Lavine... You can't depend on him when his jumpers are not falling. Kinda reminds me of JR Smith... Some are saying that they would likely deal Rose instead of Butler though.

[Andrew]

When it comes to asterisks, I'm with Bill Simmons. No asterisks, only footnotes.

If it was Rose instead of Butler in that deal, I'd be more on board with it.

[Sauru]

rose for wiggins and the 5th pick? i would do it in a heart beat if i am chicago

[Andrew]

Rose for Dieng, LaVine, and the fifth pick, I believe.

[air gordon]

lmao. who's reporting that deal?

He's pretty dependable whenever Bogut was sidelined last season/earlier this season so I reckon he'll be a good pick-up for the right price.

true. seems like his hands turn into rocks when catching the ball in traffic lately.

I'm not fully sold on Lavine... You can't depend on him when his jumpers are not falling. Kinda reminds me of JR Smith...

im not either but...he seemed to finally settle in his role with the team once they stopped playing him at pg. his post all star break #'s were pretty solid- 48% fg, 43% 3p, 16ppg though shoddy with the TO's (2). i'd trade Thibs his boy Taj to get him.

[Andrew]

No one's reporting it. I was clarifying that the aforementioned scenario to Sauru. But if the scenario Sauru suggested was at all a reality, I'd pull the trigger on that too, no question.

[Moz]

The only team I reckon who will be willing to take Rose is the Sixers... Speaking of trade, it seems that Brooks will not returning next season...

http://www.csnchicago.com/chicago-bulls ... -dinwiddie

The Bulls made their first move of what looks to be a busy offseason, dealing forward Cameron Bairstow to the Detroit Pistons for point guard Spencer Dinwiddie.

Pretty good PG from what I saw from his highlights on youtube. Long, reliable shooter, and a confident youngster. They're at the stake at the moment but I'm impressed of what Gar-Pax got off Hinrich and Bairstow...

[Andrew]

Hopefully a diamond in the rough, but if not, it's not like they gave up a valuable player to give him a shot. Moore turned out to be a solid pickup, perhaps Dinwiddie has a promising future too. Probably one of my favourite names in the league right now, if nothing else.

Apparently, the Knicks have interest in Rose. They don't have a great deal to offer outside of Melo, who I highly doubt they'd be parting ways with in this scenario. Not that the Bulls can demand a lot for Rose, but as I've said many times before, the key in trading him is that they don't end up in a worse position, ie. taking on other bad contracts just to be rid of him, giving up draft picks, and so on.

[air gordon]

yeah why not. the aussie wasn't in the plans. a free look at the guy who is called dimwitty

what does "internal" talks mean anyway? is this the new phrase for "checking backchannels"? same with "soft promise". rumor floating the bulls offered that to Baldwin.

[Andrew]

Sam Smith's postmortem of the Rose trade, retrospective included: http://www.nba.com/bulls/news/samsmith/ ... rrick-rose

There were some good times with him, it was fun while it lasted, but it didn't last nearly long enough. It was time to move on, but good luck to him. With that situation, the Bulls can also now start anew.

[air gordon]

i share the same sentiments. Good luck to him...

I can't remember the last time Pax made deal like this. Crawford or Curry trade? Kudos