The Orlando Magic Thread

I know this isn't a possibility but, what if the magic made a trade for Devin Harris or Steve Nash? What would you think of it?The magic needs a nice assist man, someone better than Arenas who is nothing now, they need to get rid of him. Hopefully Jameer Nelson won't be so injury prone if the season actually happends.

They could easily make a package for Nash, although I think he'd prefer to go to an actual contender.

Why Devin Harris? He's hardly any better than Nelson, and he's every bit as injury-prone as him too. If you want assists, Felton, Calderon, and Kidd are all solid players who were in the top 10 in assists per game last season, that could be feasibly traded for without giving up All-Star talent. J-Kidd will probably stay with the Mavs unless, they swing a trade for Nash or something. I think Felton has found a home in Portland, particularly since he's teamed up with Wallace again and will fit with the rest of the Blazers very well. The Magic, if they're set on trying to build a roster, (I think they should blow it up, but whatever) should try to swing a trade for Calderon (I bet the Raptors will love to hear that). I'm thinking Calderon, Amir Johnson, and Reggie Evans for Turkoglu, Clark, and Nelson add then add in some minor pieces or draft picks to balance out the salaries. Losing Reggie Evans might inspire Bargs to start rebounding the ball.

Arenas is gone only if there is an amnesty clause. There's no way he gets traded, unless the Wizards trade Ra$hard Lewi$ back to the Magic again.

The Magic should just go ahead and sell off pieces for draft picks and young talent, if they get a chance. They should just recognize that Howard is as happy in Orlando as LeBron was in Cleveland two years ago. The team without Howard is just an undersized, overpaid, and overrated collection of perimeter shooters. (Turkoglu, Arenas, Nelson, you get the picture). They would likely have the worst inside presence in the league and their offense, defense, rebounding will all be among the worst. They are going to suck for the next several years anyway, so they might as well gain some financial flexibility and draft picks by blowing up the roster and doing something along the lines of what the Bobcats did (except for trade away Wallace-caliber players for nothing, this doesn't apply to them because they don't have Wallace-caliber players.)

=I'm thinking Calderon, Amir Johnson, and Reggie Evans for Turkoglu, Clark, and Nelson add then add in some minor pieces or draft picks to balance out the salaries. Losing Reggie Evans might inspire Bargs to start rebounding the ball.

Amir Johnson and Reggie Evans is a good package but Calderon not really.. for me, Nelson is only the best asset if they made a trade. His perimeter consistency is there yet his assists is low because he is an offensive minded point guard.

about Nash, I was already thought when the trade was made that I wish it was Nash, Clark and Warrick instead of J-Rich, Turkoglu and Clark and they didn't waste the trade of Lewis for Arenas

If that happened:
PG: Steve Nash
SG: JJ Redick
SF: Rashard Lewis
PF: Hakeem Warrick
C: Dwight Howard

Bench:
Jameer Nelson, Q-Richardson, Chris Duhon, Daniel Orton, Ryan Anderson, Brandon Bass, Malik Allen

I don't think the combination of Nash and Howard automatically equals a championship. I think it would keep them contenders in the East, give them a real good look at the Eastern Conference Finals and if everything falls into the place [i]maybe[i] a Finals appearance but top to bottom I'm not sure they have the team to get the job done. Getting Nash would be easier said than done, the Magic don't have a lot to offer that the Suns would be willing to take. Easier said than done and again, I don't think it nets them a ring.

I also don't think if Howard is capable from pick in roll passes from Nash.. CP3 for me is the best combo for him

Amir Johnson and Reggie Evans is a good package but Calderon not really.. for me, Nelson is only the best asset if they made a trade. His perimeter consistency is there yet his assists is low because he is an offensive minded point guard.

WTF.

Amir Johnson and Reggie Evans is a good package but Calderon not really.. for me, Nelson is only the best asset if they made a trade. His perimeter consistency is there yet his assists is low because he is an offensive minded point guard.

WTF.

honestly, i like Nelson than Calderon

i said WTF because you said that his assists were low because he was offensive minded. Steve Nash is offensive minded and look at his assist totals.

I'm not saying he is not better than Calderon.

I mean offensive minded because he is more focus on points not on assists gotcha? Calderon was a terrific point guard too and no question with that

Calderon sucks. But never have I missed him this much, seeing him play regularly on my Raptors TV. I can tell you this much about this guy.

I mean offensive minded because he is more focus on points not on assists gotcha? Calderon was a terrific point guard too and no question with that

Calderon sucks. But never have I missed him this much, seeing him play regularly on my Raptors TV. I can tell you this much about this guy.

Calderon is neither terrific or terrible. He's an average starting PG, who is a very good passer and shooter (particularly from the FT line), but a defensive liability.

who do you think the best asset to trade for CP3? I wish Paul will be bound for the Magic
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/21 ... c_Clippers

Makes sense.

While these ones don't even if you add one or two draft picks:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=2c2q7kd
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=3ttujn8



Chris Paul willing to go to the Clippers. WHAT?!
Blake Griffin yeah but that's Donald Sterling's team!

lol Arenas Nelson, Bass and Redick? I wonder if Hornets will agree

That would have to make Howard think twice about leaving.

If I recall correctly, Larry Coon said it was unlikely that teams could trade for a player and then amnesty them. If so, I don't see Arenas getting traded...otherwise that could be a decent move for the Hornets from a rebuilding standpoint, if you add a couple more players and likely a couple of picks to the deal. If the Hornets wouldn't be able to amnesty Arenas then one of shadowgrin's other proposals is probably the best package they could offer.

Unless of course, the Hornets would take this along with a couple of picks:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=7ps3683

only Nelson will be the good asset to have a trade.. I think the Magic don't have a draft pick now, they traded it to the Cavs for Justin Harper
I wish this will be their line up
PG: Chris Paul
SG: Josh Howard
SF: Hedo Turkoglu
PF: Justine Harper
C: Dwight Howard

wow, and Dwight has requested to be traded to the Nets.. and who will be the exchange?

who do you think the Magic should get in exchange for Howard? I would rather trade him to the Clippers for Blake Griffin and Eric Gordon

Brook Lopez is apparently one of the players the Magic would be acquiring if a deal with the Nets goes down.

They're also reportedly close to re-signing Jason Richardson.

they officially resigned J-Rich.. I think Otis doesn't want to deal with the Nets..

they officially resigned J-Rich.. I think Otis doesn't want to deal with the Nets..

Yeah of course... Brook Lopez and 2 future First rounders? I dont think so... there none New Jersey could offer to sweeten this deal

May be this could convince Dwight http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=79p8vfh

Last edited by Main Bounce on Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:03 am, edited 1 time in total.

i think its impossible they are struggling to land CP3 how much more with LeBron?
I agree to the decision of the Magic front office , there's no need to rush trading Dwight, they can still trade him before the trade deadline..

Otis Smith traded for Gilbert Arenas last season. I wouldn't dismiss the possibility of him taking the Nets deal and with draft picks involved, it might not be as bad as it seems.

Glbert Arenas Cleared Waivers as of 6pm

http://www.nba.com/video//channels/nba_ ... ef:nbahpt1
I think they could still convince Dwight to stay if Otis will make another big move

Signing Jason Richardson is a big move? Ok then.

http://www.nba.com/video//channels/nba_tv/2011/12/12/20111212_ORL_Howard_Arena_Link.nba/?ls=iref:nbahpt1
I think they could still convince Dwight to stay if Otis will make another big move

"another"
i didn't mention about J Rich