Spirit of '99: 2011 Lockout Discussion

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Re: Spirit of '99: 2011 Lockout Discussion

Postby Dc311 on Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:47 pm

Dc311 wrote:I guess it is also a personal issue with me.
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Re: Spirit of '99: 2011 Lockout Discussion

Postby koberulz on Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:55 pm

That's not a reason, it's a poor justification for not actually having a reason.
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Re: Spirit of '99: 2011 Lockout Discussion

Postby Patr1ck on Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:21 pm

Random thought:

What if this was a ploy to try and increase the interest in the nba? They were making progress, then it's take it or leave it, they left it, lawsuit, lawsuit settled and an agreement right around thanksgiving and opening day on christmas?
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Re: Spirit of '99: 2011 Lockout Discussion

Postby shadowgrin on Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:32 pm

You're reading too much into it Pdub. The moon landing conspiracy theories were more plausible than that.
You're giving too much credit to Hunter and players union to even think that they are competent to do that.
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Re: Spirit of '99: 2011 Lockout Discussion

Postby Dc311 on Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:15 pm

koberulz wrote:That's not a reason, it's a poor justification for not actually having a reason.



Oh my god!!!You are correct!I shall bow down to you almighty one.

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I don't have to answer to you just so you can feel good about yourself princess.
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Re: Spirit of '99: 2011 Lockout Discussion

Postby Andrew on Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:26 pm

Pdub wrote:Random thought:

What if this was a ploy to try and increase the interest in the nba? They were making progress, then it's take it or leave it, they left it, lawsuit, lawsuit settled and an agreement right around thanksgiving and opening day on christmas?


If it was, they handled it poorly. Neither side ended up looking particularly good and there seemed to be a decent amount of people who weren't too worried about games being lost.
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Re: Spirit of '99: 2011 Lockout Discussion

Postby Nick on Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:17 pm

Maybe the government staged the NBA lockout to make the economic crisis seem more real and therefore giving them more justification to invade some country and steal their resources. :mrgreen:
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Re: Spirit of '99: 2011 Lockout Discussion

Postby koberulz on Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:48 am

Dc311 wrote:I don't have to answer to you just so you can feel good about yourself princess.

Whilst this is true, if you find yourself holding positions you can in no way justify, it's an indication that the positions you hold are probably incorrect and certainly worth re-examining.
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Re: Spirit of '99: 2011 Lockout Discussion

Postby shadowgrin on Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:57 am

Not really.
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Re: Spirit of '99: 2011 Lockout Discussion

Postby koberulz on Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:08 am

shadowgrin wrote:Not really.

Perhaps. I've edited it to be less black-and-white, though I can't off the top of my head think of an example of it not being true.
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Re: Spirit of '99: 2011 Lockout Discussion

Postby Dc311 on Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:11 am

koberulz wrote:I can't off the top of my head think of an example of it not being true.


Well then I find it's an indication that the positions you hold are probably incorrect and certainly worth re-examining.
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Re: Spirit of '99: 2011 Lockout Discussion

Postby Andrew on Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:34 am

NBA season would require back-to-back-to-backs

The NBA regular season would run through April 26 and require teams to play at least one set of back-to-back-to-back games if a new labor deal is ratified in time to start on Christmas.

The league posted an outline of what the schedule would look like on its Twitter pages Sunday. The plan is a 66-game regular season, ending about 10 days later than usual. The last possible day of the NBA finals would be June 26, two weeks later than the championship series ended last season.

Teams would play 48 games within their conference and 18 non-conference games. No team would play on three straight nights more than three times.

Back-to-backs might also be played during the second round of the postseason.
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Re: Spirit of '99: 2011 Lockout Discussion

Postby Patr1ck on Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:12 pm

They should make sure those back to backs are like home stands for each team, while the visiting teams get a day off to travel.
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Re: Spirit of '99: 2011 Lockout Discussion

Postby koberulz on Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:34 pm

Dc311 wrote:
koberulz wrote:I can't off the top of my head think of an example of it not being true.


Well then I find it's an indication that the positions you hold are probably incorrect and certainly worth re-examining.

Does not logically follow.
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Re: Spirit of '99: 2011 Lockout Discussion

Postby Nick on Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:37 pm

Jesus koberulz, just let it the hell go already.
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Re: Spirit of '99: 2011 Lockout Discussion

Postby Andrew on Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:51 am

The union will be reinstated, the deal is expected to be ratified next week and teams are opening their training facilities to players, so it appears everything is on track.
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Re: Spirit of '99: 2011 Lockout Discussion

Postby Jhiane on Fri Dec 02, 2011 10:25 am

1 week left and then boom! :mrgreen:
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Re: Spirit of '99: 2011 Lockout Discussion

Postby Jhiane on Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:55 pm

finally, the nba.com is back to normal now :mrgreen:
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Re: Spirit of '99: 2011 Lockout Discussion

Postby Mavs4Life on Sat Dec 03, 2011 8:14 am

And the 2011 NBA Finals or on NBA TV! Games from this century, finally...
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Re: Spirit of '99: 2011 Lockout Discussion

Postby shadowgrin on Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:49 am

Don’t view ’99 as guide to short season
Over the next couple of months, fans, experts, coaches and general managers will all be asking: Which sort of team — old, young, filled with holdovers, stocked with free agents — might benefit from this compressed schedule? And which teams will suffer?

The only honest answer is: We don’t really have any idea. Smart people around the league have theories, but they happily admit that those theories have no proof, and that many of them would apply in an 82-game season. Dig into the data from 1999 — our one-season sample size — and you won’t find anything definitive, other than teams played very slowly overall and missed more shots than ever.
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Re: Spirit of '99: 2011 Lockout Discussion

Postby Andrew on Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:35 am

I'd suggest that as always, the cream will rise to the top. The teams with the solid rotations that work well together will be the frontrunners but as always, the chance for an upset here and there will exist. As noted, same deal as a normal 82 game schedule.

Meanwhile, looks like we're on track for the deal to be ratified, it's all but official apparently.
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Re: Spirit of '99: 2011 Lockout Discussion

Postby Jhiane on Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:25 am

we are all set :giggity:
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Re: Spirit of '99: 2011 Lockout Discussion

Postby Nick on Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:30 am

Great news. Now lets lock this thread and forget it ever happened.

What a traumatising offseason.
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Re: Spirit of '99: 2011 Lockout Discussion

Postby Jhiane on Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:17 pm

if a player is amnestied, he will become a free agent and if a team will sign him will have a new contract?
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Re: Spirit of '99: 2011 Lockout Discussion

Postby Andrew on Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:20 pm

He can be claimed off waivers. Of course, not all players are willing to go along with it.
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