Magic make two blockbuster trades

[nbacro]

Finally some big trades this season

[Alejandrov011]

I see in this way te trade for the Suns:

TRADED:

* Hedo Turkoglu: Well underachieving in Phoenix, a team with so much wing players and he didn't rise up to expectations. $10M salary for a 15 minutes a game player? Well done to find somebody who wanted him

* Earl Clark: Showed some promise in summer leagues but he couldn't crack in the rotation.

* Jason Richardson: To get rid of Turkoglu, they had to trade a great asset, he was having a great year, specially shooting (47% FG, 41% 3PT) but also see that he was on his last year of contract at $14M. Sad to see him go. Need to find somebody to replace his 19 points per game

ADDED:

* Marcin Gortat: Formerly picked by the Suns in the draft, he's a decent center who can give the thougness the Suns need, he's also a great rebounder and shot blocker. Great addition IMO.

* Vince Carter: As I read here in the topic, the Suns resurrected Shaq, Grant Hill, McDyess, Nash.. they can do the same with VC, if he can became a decent long distance shooter he can thrive in the Suns system, in a J-Rich like role. Also he's on his last year of contract with $17M. He can replace Richardon's 19 points per game.

* Mickael Pietrus: Decent 3PT shooter and defender, along with Dudley they can be a great combo off the bench, he's locked up for 3, 4 years also with Jared, bench power for a while. IMO: He will be the sleeper in this trade, like happened with Jared Dudley in the Diaw + Bell trade to Charlotte.


I didn't like to see Richardson leave the Suns, but with Carter and Pietrus in the fold, along with the Polish hammer, the Suns became better, just a little... but they improved, having cancer Turkoglu out of town.

Orlando took a HUGE risk, Arenas and Turkoglu in the same team?..... Anything can happen

[puttincomputers]

Orlando took a HUGE risk, Arenas and Turkoglu in the same team?..... Anything can happen

Maybe Turk will convert Arenas to Islam. Arenas might become a holy war freak and then shoot a bunch of people in the name of Allah and then kill himself. The only piece missing in the puzzle? Turk's Islam. Arenas is already a freak.

[Lamrock]

You're such a bigoted fuck.

[NovU]

That's really fucked up shit right there, puttincomputers. And you call yourself Christian? Shame Shame Shame...

No wonder why people get to hate Christianity when you actually try to preach anyone.

[jenroe962002]

@puttincomputers: you're such a racist

[benji]

Who knew Islam was a race?

[kingjames23]

Islam is a race? what kind? horse? car? relay? do they do hurdles?

im just lowering the bar for the retards

[Lamrock]

Good point. Edited accordingly.

[Houndy]

Is he always that clueless?

[Rukawa_11]

Common guys, focus on the Orlando trade and related things and not in religion

The Orlando Sentinel reported the Magic don't finish the trades, now the team search for back-up players

[puttincomputers]

actually maybe arenas will clean up his act since he will be around howard.

btw folks i should point out that many mennonites, including myself, admire the burka.

[shadowgrin]

puttin is a lying piece of shite. If all mennonites are intolerant of other religions like puttin, I hope they all die in a raging inferno.

[Phil89]

[puttincomputers]

we mennos are not interested in being politically correct.
While we don't accept other religions as true paths to God, we don't hate people. Which is very unlike the liberal democrat/socialist religion.

[diddy]

magic won a nomenee of the worst trade of the year with trading Lewis 4 Arenas! and i think they could gey way better players for vc, gortat and pietrus!!!!

[Oznogrd]

magic won a nomenee of the worst trade of the year with trading Lewis 4 Arenas! and i think they could gey way better players for vc, gortat and pietrus!!!!

To me both these trades are a wash and they got back a fan favorite in hedo (most Magic fans i know were upset when he left). Only people Im worried about are the suns and they've definitely downgraded from one of my fav teams now they have VC

[shadowgrin]

If VC was back dunking left and right and tea bagging defenders again, would you start liking the Suns more?

[koberulz]

we mennos are not interested in being politically correct.
While we don't accept other religions as true paths to God, we don't hate people. Which is very unlike the liberal democrat/socialist religion.

Socialism is a religion?

[Brave Sir Rubin]

magic won a nomenee of the worst trade of the year with trading Lewis 4 Arenas! and i think they could gey way better players for vc, gortat and pietrus!!!!

English, motherfucker, do you speak it?

[shadowgrin]

He's Russian, Pavel.
In Russia, English finds you.
Unfortunately for us it hasn't found Diddy.

[rise]

magic won a nomenee of the worst trade of the year with trading Lewis 4 Arenas! and i think they could gey way better players for vc, gortat and pietrus!!!!

No. Suns win that one. We basically traded Jason Richardson for VC.

[joshfarc]

Hey guys, I don't ever spam sites, and I am not positive the rules here. But I have written a FULL analysis on the 2 trades, dividing it up into each teams section and what their rotation/roster should look like in the future. I also graded them all.

1-Orlando: A
2-Phoenix: B+
3-Wizards: B-

www.hoopshardcore.com/wordpresshardcore
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Link to the real FULL analysis of each team; very descriptive even predicting each teams rotation w/minutes per player and stuff. But if links aren't allowed, quick thoughts:

1- Orlando to me get's an A because they were able to get rid of possibly the TWO most OVERPAID players in the NBA.

2- Phoenix at first... seems like they gave up a TON. While they did, they also gave up a TON in salary (like 20million+ over the next 2 years); Vince Carter could be another slowed down veteran that speeds up under the Phoenix training staff and next to Nash, but he's also only guaranteed 3-4million of his 18 million possible next year (14+mil saving).

3- Wizards pretty much HAD to get rid of Gilbert Arenas because he is such a high usage player with the ball in his hands (but also very effective still as a 20ppg guy w/5apg+), but John Wall needs the ball in his hands and a team built around him (like Rose in Chicago). Rashard Lewis, the 2nd highest paid player in the NBA is having a career low year as a starter averaging 12.2 points and 4.8 rebounds in 32.2 minutes a game! If he were playing 24 minutes off the bench getting paid 5 mil a year that might be ok, haha. He is shooting a low FG% around 40-41%.... with his 3pt shot still around 38%-42% like his career. The thing is, his last year of his contract isn't guaranteed at all, and the Wizards are fine with maybe Nick Young starting at SG allowing Kirk Hinrich to play the 6th man role, though he might have to be the SG starter because of his D. Shard Lewis is the stretch combo-forward they need that can hit 3's and help spread the floor for John Wall; maybe Shard will embrace being the 2nd/3rd option again rather than Dwight's lil biatch, haha.

[Andrew]

For his part, Nash is being a pro about the situation: Phoenix Suns optimistic that three newcomers will fit in

"I'm optimistic that it can help us short- and long-term," Suns guard Steve Nash said. "It sounds like it would've been tough to keep J-Rich in the summer anyway so it was a chance to take a move in a new direction.

"I think all three of those guys are good offensive players so I don't think that it's going to hurt us. It gives us more size that we needed. It should be a good opportunity for us."

Nash said the trade was an indication that management was being critical of its own summer moves. Suns President of Basketball Operations Lon Babby was clear Nash is part of the future and all indications are that Nash is in Phoenix to stay.

"I signed the contract extension to stay," Nash said. "I did that for a reason. I wanted to play with these guys, some of them. At least some of them were here when I signed. I still think we have a chance to be a good team. You just got to roll with it. What are my options? Quit?"

A two-time MVP could demand a trade.

"I could be in a city that maybe doesn't have the guys we have," Nash said. "I want to be positive and make this a great opportunity and a great season. I know a lot of people are telling me to demand a trade. If I demand one, does that mean I get to pick my team? No. It's not that simple. Maybe somebody could explain to me the reasoning. You can't just go in and tell management where you want to go. I signed to play here and I want to make this team a really good one."

[Houndy]

Hopefully Phoenix can make another Benjamin Button in Vinceanity