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Wed May 23, 2012 9:45 am
uly wrote:I think it's time to get Howard for Gasol and Bynum..I'm sure they will not miss that opportunity, because Howard is longing to be on a championship team...If magic will not accept that, hey will be like the cavaliers a year ago, that lost a primary scorer and a superstar in their team..
They might not have to give up both and shouldn't if they can avoid it; at least, not necessarily in the same deal. There's no need for them to overpay in a trade unless the Magic have a similarly appealing offer from someone else.
Wed May 23, 2012 10:14 am
The Magic will do all they can to keep Dwight, as we can see by them getting rid of Smith and Van Gundy. And even if he leaves, I think he's said something about not wanting to go to the Lakers (probably as long as Kobe's there). It will be difficult to say the least for them to rebuild with one guy eating up half of the salary cap. They definitely want to trade Gasol, but what can they get for him? Sure, he can still play, but he's 32, has a huge contract for two more years, appears a bit washed up and everybody knows the Lakers want to get rid of him. That all equals a very low market value. So how can they improve? Free agency? Not really, over the luxury tax if I remember correctly. Trades? The only player they want to deal who's worth anything is Gasol, other than that no trade assets. Then again, that's probably what everyone was saying before the Gasol trade. I guess we'll see what they come up with, should be pretty interesting.
Wed May 23, 2012 1:03 pm
I think most people are forgetting here that Bynum improved so much this year that he is now regarded as the #2 best center in the league. So a straight up Howard for Bynum swap, with maybe a few pieces to sweeten the pot might not be totally out of the question now. So Gasol might not be immediately gone. I think if the Magic gives up hope of trading Howard for good value, Bynum, plus, say maybe Christian Eyenga might be sa sweet enough deal for them.
Wed May 23, 2012 1:57 pm
Bynum will never be a legit first option. Never.
Thu May 24, 2012 9:21 am
Bruce wrote:I think most people are forgetting here that Bynum improved so much this year that he is now regarded as the #2 best center in the league. So a straight up Howard for Bynum swap, with maybe a few pieces to sweeten the pot might not be totally out of the question now. So Gasol might not be immediately gone. I think if the Magic gives up hope of trading Howard for good value, Bynum, plus, say maybe Christian Eyenga might be sa sweet enough deal for them.
True. As it stands,
this plus a pick or two would work under the cap and might be enough to get the deal done. However, the rub is that Howard is a free agent and anyone who trades for him would naturally want him to sign an extension. If the reports are true, Howard isn't keen on going to the Lakers and being the second or third man, so it becomes somewhat of a risky move.
Thu May 24, 2012 12:56 pm
Bruce wrote:I think most people are forgetting here that Bynum improved so much this year that he is now regarded as the #2 best center in the league. So a straight up Howard for Bynum swap, with maybe a few pieces to sweeten the pot might not be totally out of the question now. So Gasol might not be immediately gone. I think if the Magic gives up hope of trading Howard for good value, Bynum, plus, say maybe Christian Eyenga might be sa sweet enough deal for them.
Yah!! Bynum has really improved this year… that’s the reason why the trade now for Gasol and Bynum sounds unfair already in the process to get Howard,, but if this trade was initiated last year, lakers will probably do this.. But again the problem is the magic team. They will lose a a great center..I don’t think Howard still wants to be in that team.. If not in the lakers , well in another championship caliber team, the magic should think about that before they will be just like the cavaliers who lost a superstar.
Thu May 24, 2012 1:10 pm
uly wrote:that’s the reason why the trade now for Gasol and Bynum sounds unfair already in the process to get Howard
Then why did you suggest:
uly wrote:I think it's time to get Howard for Gasol and Bynum.
Thu May 24, 2012 1:15 pm
so that the magic will really accept the offer due to the improvement of Bynum...
Thu May 24, 2012 1:20 pm
If it's unfair and unnecessary, why do it? Why overpay when they don't have to?
Thu May 24, 2012 1:29 pm
I'm just concerned with the future of the magic...of course the trade will not be 2 for 1, magic can also add players that will match the salary...but the main piece should still be there.magic will not let go of a center if they will not also get a center.
Thu May 24, 2012 1:37 pm
Andrew wrote:Bruce wrote:I think most people are forgetting here that Bynum improved so much this year that he is now regarded as the #2 best center in the league. So a straight up Howard for Bynum swap, with maybe a few pieces to sweeten the pot might not be totally out of the question now. So Gasol might not be immediately gone. I think if the Magic gives up hope of trading Howard for good value, Bynum, plus, say maybe Christian Eyenga might be sa sweet enough deal for them.
True. As it stands,
this plus a pick or two would work under the cap and might be enough to get the deal done. However, the rub is that Howard is a free agent and anyone who trades for him would naturally want him to sign an extension. If the reports are true, Howard isn't keen on going to the Lakers and being the second or third man, so it becomes somewhat of a risky move.
Not absolutely true. Howard already excercised the player option for the final year of his contract, so he is still under contract for the 12'-13' season with the Magic. The Lakers on the other hand, has the 12'-13' team option on Bynum's contract that must be exercised by june 30. So the contract on both big men, are almost similar.
On the Laker free agents, I hope they bring back Hill. Sessions, I was not totally impressed, but he has room to grow, hopefully translating to Sessions improving on defense. I just hope he does not dream of being overpaid. And finally, possibly acquire a more consistent back-up at SF. I believe Barnes would be gone next season.
Thu May 24, 2012 1:38 pm
So offer Bynum or Gasol. No need to put them both on the table right away, preventing the Lakers from making any other big moves, overpaying for Howard and having to take on a player with a bad contract like Hedo Turkoglu.
Thu May 24, 2012 2:58 pm
uly wrote:I'm just concerned with the future of the magic...of course the trade will not be 2 for 1, magic can also add players that will match the salary...but the main piece should still be there.magic will not let go of a center if they will not also get a center.
lol, hard to believe coming from a Lakers fan.
Thu May 24, 2012 6:30 pm
shadowgrin wrote:uly wrote:I'm just concerned with the future of the magic...of course the trade will not be 2 for 1, magic can also add players that will match the salary...but the main piece should still be there.magic will not let go of a center if they will not also get a center.
lol, hard to believe coming from a Lakers fan.
Magic is my fav. team in the East... Maybe it's because they gave us Shaq for free
Thu May 24, 2012 9:13 pm
yah!!that's right!!they should learn from their previous mistake..
Fri May 25, 2012 6:46 pm
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=7yzqaaeLakers should make this trade. Plus it gives roster flexibility to both OKC and ORL, along with winners with multiple rings, so everyone is happy.
Fri May 25, 2012 7:34 pm
Lol, 77 wins?
Just the swap of Bynum and Howard is a 3 win difference.
Fri May 25, 2012 7:36 pm
They absolutely should. The Thunder, conversely, absolutely should not.
Sat May 26, 2012 12:05 am
benji wrote:http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7yzqaae
Lakers should make this trade. Plus it gives roster flexibility to both OKC and ORL, along with winners with multiple rings, so everyone is happy.
Best/Worst time of all time! Bravo!
Sat May 26, 2012 9:39 am
this trade is impossible...
Sat May 26, 2012 11:54 am
might as well go for more wins.
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ct5cg2aDwight/Bynum/Lebron/Wade/Westbrook
Sat May 26, 2012 4:42 pm
That's retarded. Kobe is a Laker4LYF.
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