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Re: Lakers Thread

Fri May 11, 2012 6:24 pm

Hating? Lolz. I was simply agreeing that the media overplayed and hyped Kobe's mere stomachache like he couldn't possibly be on the court. Perhaps the media did the same for MJ. Who knows. But MJ's flu game became nearly legend that media want to make a story similar to it whenever someone's playing under any kind of illness and that automatically drew comparison with MJ. And you were the one that first mentioned MJ while Pdub merely was pointing on the hype made by the media. That's hating on MJ from MJ fans' point of view and by your standard.

Kamilli LakeShow Bryant wrote:And how could you not blame Bynum? First 2, even say 4 games, he played on par and sometimes dominated the whole Nuggets frontline. But in last 2 games, the CLOSEOUT games which he "wisely" described as easy in a pre-game press conference he was flat out outplayed offensively and defensively. I understand his offensive struggles, everyone can struggle at times, but at least hustle and play the defense you are known for! He just looked uninterested at times, like it was regular season!

What about Kobe in these series? He is Black Mamba so far, and if it wasn't for him we wouldn't even be close in game 5 and would lose by like 50 in game 6! In the previous games he din't play bad either, maybe not Kobe-good at times, but pretty good.

Sure, Bynum didn't step up in this series and it was all Kobe. I am used to that notion now anyways.

Re: Lakers Thread

Fri May 11, 2012 7:05 pm

That's the media's job, to overhype things. At least, in sports since there are few storylines to talk about. And they love to compare Mj to Kobe. It's nobody's fault, to be honest. "He did have a pretty good game, i don't see how those performances by MJ are so sacred that commentators can't even mention it .". That's all i said, i don't see the big deal in that. I don't even think Kobe was tryin to emulate the flu game. He was trying to help his team win in a crucial game in the playoffs and happened to have flu, at least that's how i see it.


And you probably did not understand me about Bynum. I love Bynum and his game. I just want him to do what i know he can do, but he doesn't give full effort to do. That's the frustrating part, man! He did not show up in the closeout games while Kobe definitely did. We need good performances from both to be successful against these tough, tough Nuggets. We need Bynum to outplay their big men. Otherwise we are cooked.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vwa7L3n3nxQ

Re: Lakers Thread

Fri May 11, 2012 7:25 pm

Kobe didn't have no flu to begin with. But I care no more.

Bynum has been great in this series despite the reduced touches from the regular season. I get the feeling he hasn't teammates' nor coach's trust here. But that didn't stop Bynum to be productive and definitely stepped up his game from the regular season. Meanwhile Kobe has been good but again with tons of usage and the team hasn't been that much better. In fact, no matter how there are claims that Kobe has rejuvenated at old age, the thing is that Bynum has been more positive force for the Laker this series. Calling Bynum's performance in this series a par is absurd but I can tell you it was more of Kobe's performance that has been on the par level considering the praises he's getting.

Re: Lakers Thread

Fri May 11, 2012 9:18 pm

NovU wrote:Kobe didn't have no flu to begin with. But I care no more.

Bynum has been great in this series despite the reduced touches from the regular season. I get the feeling he hasn't teammates' nor coach's trust here. But that didn't stop Bynum to be productive and definitely stepped up his game from the regular season. Meanwhile Kobe has been good but again with tons of usage and the team hasn't been that much better. In fact, no matter how there are claims that Kobe has rejuvenated at old age, the thing is that Bynum has been more positive force for the Laker this series. Calling Bynum's performance in this series a par is absurd but I can tell you it was more of Kobe's performance that has been on the par level considering the praises he's getting.

Well, his praises are true, and analysts praised the whole Laker team in the first 2 games! I can't believe you gonna tell me Bynum is not as good because he doesn't get touches. Guess what, two guys who outworked him and Gasol NEVER get plays drawn out for them, yet they get same or even better numbers than our bigs. Jordan Hill been playin better last 2 games, and that sucks. I'm not taking outta my ass either, Inside the NBA talked about Bynum in particular on today's show. I know what you are sayin, run the game thru the bigs, but hell, we tried that in games we lost in the beginning, they just couldn't TAKE a shot, much less make it. They passed it out a lot, and Kobe HAD to go to work on a lot of those plays gone bad

Re: Lakers Thread

Fri May 11, 2012 9:22 pm

BTW, it looked like every other Laker had flu except Kobe, didn't it? XD

Re: Lakers Thread

Sat May 12, 2012 6:50 am

Kamilli LakeShow Bryant wrote:Well, his praises are true,

So are the critics then. Not hating at all.

Kamilli LakeShow Bryant wrote:I can't believe you gonna tell me Bynum is not as good because he doesn't get touches.

No, I wasn't saying that at all. I said he has been productive despite less touches he's got compared to the season and that he stepped up in this series by being more productive with a such limited usage. And the point was actually that he could be used more as his efficiency has been perhaps the best for the Lakers in this series.

You talk like Kobe's been the lone force for the Lakers in this series but that's just 100% wrong. He has his shares to blame for the failure to close out the series. There were more than many occasions where he took ill advised shots and hurt the team. More times than Bynum has.

Re: Lakers Thread

Sat May 12, 2012 12:39 pm

Were not even at the finals but things are heating up :mrgreen:

Re: Lakers Thread

Sat May 12, 2012 1:32 pm

Nah, then i definitely did not express myself well. I'm a Laker fan who happens to have Kobe on a team, not the other way around. I love when my team wins , and from that standpoint, i felt like Gasol and Bynum didn't play well last 2 games. Before that, sure, they were a determining part of our success. That's why it hurts to the see them slide down and not step up in closeout games. Game 7 now, and if they can show all of us how i know they CAN perform - it will be AWESOME

Re: Lakers Thread

Sat May 12, 2012 1:56 pm

Game 7 for another LA team too... LA teams just can't closeout this year, but i'm happy for Memphis :D

Re: Lakers Thread

Sun May 13, 2012 6:01 am

Kobe calling out on his teammates especially Gasol and Bynum, and says MWP is only his man whom he can count on. This is just silly. The Lakers have been ignoring on-going chemistry issue the whole season, and perhaps from the last season where they got swept. There was a notion that Gasol lost his hunger spirit for the ring ever since he won it once, and Bynum now wants an individual stardom over team success, thinking he doesn't get enough credits for his worth. And I thought the Lakers would implode and suffer this season during the regular season but somehow kept it together, but now it seems to have reached a boiling point. Somewhat reminds me of Shaq vs Kobe era, but with Bynum being more of bitch version of Shaq. I felt Kobe all along has given a feeling that he underappreciates the true value of Bynum and some of teammates. One instance was him saying that Gasol was still the man over Bynum before this season began. I am sure that didn't do too well with Bynum's ego. And Kobe calling out on his teammates now, I don't think this helps the team spirt particularly for the situation they are in whehter it's true of not. Not sure how Kobe handles the things behind the closed door but to me it seems he's pouring more oil to the fire. Honestly, from my standpoint, Kobe should have allowed other teammates to shine bit more long time ago by adjusting his game and attitude. His efficiency or productivity just haven't been there for awhile and that started blame game, and some of his teammates aren't happy since they are getting burned constantly when losing while Kobe gets all the credits when winning. Well... that's just my take on this situation with the Lakers.

Re: Lakers Thread

Sun May 13, 2012 4:04 pm

Great game by the BIGS!!! 35 rebounds from them got the job done ...

Kobe was quiet the whole 4th quarter and then shot the dagger three to put the Nuggets away ... (Y)

Re: Lakers Thread

Sun May 13, 2012 4:41 pm

Blake_Bryant wrote:Great game by the BIGS!!! 35 rebounds from them got the job done ...

Kobe was quiet the whole 4th quarter and then shot the dagger three to put the Nuggets away ... (Y)

Just what he does, but our Bigs, they did EXACTLY what we all wanted, they stepped up MAJOR! Great win! Congrats to all Laker fans! :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:

Novu, Kobe is just a motivator like Phil. He knows what he has to say in order to get everybody motivated for a big win. And as u can see, it worked :D I bet ya nobody holds a grudge in that locker room

Re: Lakers Thread

Sun May 13, 2012 5:02 pm

JOB well done LAKERS!! Im so happy for you guyz! :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:

Re: Lakers Thread

Sun May 13, 2012 10:42 pm

123rockstar wrote:JOB well done LAKERS!! Im so happy for you guyz! :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:

Bulls fan?

And OKC is a VERY raised to the 10th power ... tough matchup. Their fastbreak game is as good as Denver. THeir speedy and Big. They can also hurt the Lakers especially with LA's poor road play.

Weird thing about game 7 ... it feels like the Lakers were grabbing every ball and rebounds but actually they were outrebounded 54-50 ... :shock:

Re: Lakers Thread

Mon May 14, 2012 1:33 am

There is no denying that the Bulls were the best in the 1990s, and the Lakers are the Best in the 2000s. :wink: (Y)

Oh yes I am a Bulls fan coz of Micheal Jordan, and I didnt like the Lakers coz they started winning... in fact I liked the Lakers when they Lost in 2008... its just because of Kobe Bryant's determination and will to win games against the Celtic's Big 3.

Oh about game 7, too many foul calls against the Lakers and too many goal tending by the Nuggets. Just like the pic below. Horrible officiating.
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Re: Lakers Thread

Mon May 14, 2012 3:05 am

Exploitable pic but too easy.



NovU wrote:The Lakers have been ignoring on-going chemistry issue the whole season...
...Bynum being more of bitch version of Shaq.

Other way around.
Kobe now is like Shaq then - doesn't want his touches reduced and wants the offense to go through him, and Kobe then is like Bynum now - bitching for more touches, except that there's a big difference. Shaq was a monster then and had every right to demand all possession to go through him compared to Kobe now where Bynum is much better.
Who needs chemistry? Shaq and Kobe despite hating each others guts along with help from the other Lakers were able to win 3 consecutive championships. Lack of chemistry is sometimes used as an excuse by players/teams when they play like idiots on the court.

Re: Lakers Thread

Mon May 14, 2012 3:30 am

shadowgrin wrote:Exploitable pic but too easy.


haha Image

Re: Lakers Thread

Mon May 14, 2012 6:45 am

And that pic is on NBA.com page, WTF? Do the saints work there only? Or do i have a really dirty mind? XD

Re: Lakers Thread

Tue May 15, 2012 5:00 pm

Gettin our butt kicked. We either get swept now or come back. My gut tells me we are gonna get swept or something close to that XD But belief is everything. Lakers this season are just so unstable, though, emotionally most of all. Ebanks just gone MAD, man

Re: Lakers Thread

Tue May 15, 2012 5:20 pm

the solution to this problem,, is not solve inside the court,but this is solve inside the locker room, the practice area and among themselves.. the coaching staff should play a big role in this chemistry problem... this is what i already noticed long time ago.. proper motivation, proper task assignment, proper plays and proper role in the team, these are some of the things that they need to adjust off the court.

Re: Lakers Thread

Tue May 15, 2012 7:26 pm

uly wrote:the solution to this problem,, is not solve inside the court,but this is solve inside the locker room, the practice area and among themselves.. the coaching staff should play a big role in this chemistry problem... this is what i already noticed long time ago.. proper motivation, proper task assignment, proper plays and proper role in the team, these are some of the things that they need to adjust off the court.

Totally agree. As a collection of players this is one of the best teams in the league. But mental-wise, one of the worst. Guru like Phil couldn't help when we got swept. It just seems personnel has to change beyond coaches at this point. Unless they can figure it out and gut it out, of course. Kobe needs to do Phil's job now like never before. This team needs it.

Re: Lakers Thread

Wed May 16, 2012 12:47 am

I had my alarm rang at 9am... I decided to get back to sleep and rather watch in the 3rd quarter. To my surprise when I tuned in, OKC leads 98-63!!! 98 points in the 3rd Quarter? 98 belongs in the 4th!!! :shock:

This is the only Lakers game I continued watching despite the Lakers trailing. Well, Lakers dont usually get buried 30 points all the time... neither does any team... but its the PLAYOFFS! :shhh: Anyways, I never felt a thing when they lost. Kobe and Coach Brown were even laughing at the sidelines...

And on top of that, Lakers Home games are back-to-back nights? OKC might win this one in 4-1. :(

Re: Lakers Thread

Wed May 16, 2012 3:30 am

Devin Ebanks forgot he wasn't Metta World Peace.

Re: Lakers Thread

Wed May 16, 2012 5:04 pm

I hope we can bounce back. Solid laker fan and believer in Kobe's Leadership .... and a great enemy to Clipper fans...

Re: Lakers Thread

Wed May 16, 2012 5:36 pm

Odd. Your name includes "Blake" and I automatically assumed you were somewhat of a fan of Blake as well as Bryant.
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