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Sun Jul 04, 2010 6:47 pm
In fact,LeBron was not only a Bulls fan but was seen a month before the draft of 2003 wearing a bulls jersey according to this
http://sendlebrontochicago.com/2010/05/ ... -bulls-fa/Personally, i would prefer Wade to come to the Bulls ,whether LeBron comes or not.He would just suit to the team and he's a player i really like,who won't win a ring in Miami unless they strengthen their squad by a great deal(sorry for that Heat fans

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This year,it seems that Bulls have been in strong position in the FA market.They have the best squad among all competitors for the big names,which is young as well.Also they have cap space for two big names,so one big FA will sign knowing that he will have another one big help from the signings of this year.Thibodeau is respectable to many in the league cause of his work at Boston all these years with Rivers.
Adding the great market Chicago is and the fact that it has the probably the best fans in the NBA and the best atmosphere in the stadiums Chicago is a clearly attractive place to go
Sun Jul 04, 2010 7:09 pm
Confusious wrote:The longer it takes for him to commit, the better for our cause. It means we really blew him away with our presentation. I mean, what does LeBron benefit from by drawing this out some more? You think he's trying to get his ego stroked some more? I'd believe that if he went on that free agency tour as originally expected. But he didn't. He had them coming to him in his hometown.
Considering it's LeBron. Yeah.
The longer he takes to commit, the more the speculation, the more attention he's getting.
Sun Jul 04, 2010 10:48 pm
I do like how Bulls "fanz" are popping out left & right with all this FA talk.
Just sayin'...
Sun Jul 04, 2010 11:29 pm
Jackal wrote:I do like how Bulls "fanz" are popping out left & right with all this FA talk.
Just sayin'...
and what do you exactly mean with that?
Does the " " mean sth or is it me?
Sun Jul 04, 2010 11:58 pm
If you feel spoken to with that statement, there isn't much else I need to say.
Mon Jul 05, 2010 1:11 am
Personally no,why i have to feel spoken with that?I was a Bulls fan for many years and supported this team in the bad seasons as well.,and by the time i registered here i post constantly in this thread.
But i was just curious to know the exact meaning of this.
Because i got it as a criticism to guys who are with the team they believe will win and change fav teams constantly and not with one team.
Also i wanted to clear that i'm not that type of supprter as well(in the case it was for me as well...)
Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:52 am
If the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit.
Mon Jul 05, 2010 5:00 am
if the shoe fits, you da shit.
if...
IF!
and if...
IF!
the bulls were to land both Wade and James,
who would have to be released, or traded to make it fit?
any ideas what the roster would look like? obviously Rose and Noah would stay
Mon Jul 05, 2010 7:16 am
the bulls would be able to get bron and wade without getting rid of anyone.
ssoooo.
pg rose
sg wade
sf lebron
pf taj
c noah
however if there were to get bron wade and bosh they would need to trade deng for one of those guys just to keep noah and rose.
however i would be more inclined to pick up lee and clear even more cap room in a deng for lee sign and trade.
lineup would then be
pg rose
sg wade
sf lebron/james johnson
pf lee/gibson
c Noah
everyone else on the team is a free agent at this point.
Mon Jul 05, 2010 7:22 am
shadowgrin wrote:Confusious wrote:The longer it takes for him to commit, the better for our cause. It means we really blew him away with our presentation. I mean, what does LeBron benefit from by drawing this out some more? You think he's trying to get his ego stroked some more? I'd believe that if he went on that free agency tour as originally expected. But he didn't. He had them coming to him in his hometown.
Considering it's LeBron. Yeah.
The longer he takes to commit, the more the speculation, the more attention he's getting.
Question:
Why do some posters insist on baselessly projecting shallow principles and priorities on other people?
In both the case of James and Ilya Kovalchuk (NHL), this is a multi-million dollar business decisions, affecting professional franchises and an individual's livelihood. It is not fantasy league, nor playground.
Does one honestly think the player, his agent and team executives are actually sitting around trying to manipulate the situation to get the most "pub"? As in "How can I be more po-U-lar?"
If so, this generation of sports fan is even more warped by superficial celebrity than I previously believed.
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Mon Jul 05, 2010 7:27 am
your conclusion is correct confusious!
Mon Jul 05, 2010 7:50 am
Confusious wrote:Question:
Why do some posters insist on baselessly projecting shallow principles and priorities on other people?
Does one honestly think the player, his agent and team executives are actually sitting around trying to manipulate the situation to get the most "pub"? As in "How can I be more po-U-lar?"
Popularity, not entirely. Leverage, yes. More attention and speculation the more LeBron can impose conditions that will better suit him. That can be considered a business decision isn't it?
Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:29 am
God, you're so delusional, it's unbearable to talk to you.
Here's a new LeBron spin for the day (it isn't a day without one):
The Knicks, who haven't given up on the dream of signing LeBron James, were granted a second meeting with the free agent superstar's representatives late Saturday in Cleveland, The Daily News has learned.
According to a Knicks official, Garden president Scott O'Neil and senior VP of Basketball Operations Glen Grunwald were dispatched to James' hometown and held a brief clandestine meeting with James' reps to make a second pitch to the two-time MVP.
It is unclear if James was in the meeting but it is believed that his business manager, Maverick Carter, and agent, Leon Rose, met with the two Knicks executives on the same day that James spoke to both the Cavs and Bulls.
Link
It has since been confirmed that LeBron was
NOT at the second meeting.
Brian Windhorst was just on NY radio 1050. He said that he heard that after the presentations the Knicks were in 5th place. I didn't catch the first part of the interview, but here is what I did catch:
-Windhorst believes the Cavs are the front runner with a 50ish percent chance.
-Bulls have a 49ish percent chance.
-LeBron might want to visit a team or two after the bball camp. Earliest decision could come is Wednesday night.
-Nets were FAR more impressive than Knicks.
-LeBron is very intrigued by the Bulls. Specifically said there is a reason Bulls were chosen to present last.
Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:36 am
Make sure you change your ID to
lebronrulz if he ever ends up with the Bulls.
Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:40 am
I was thinking of changing it to
HeirJames, actually.
Mon Jul 05, 2010 10:53 am
Another take on the matter:
Cleveland ties could still bind LeBronHere was Team LeBron making the headquarters of James’ fledgling marketing company LRMR into the Grand Central Station of a city’s hope and heartbreak. And perhaps the Cavaliers showed why they best know the biggest free agent in sports history when they delivered a presentation designed as much to steal a 14-year-old away from a traveling baseball team than woo a self-proclaimed disciple of Warren Buffett.
Through it all, James’ old team probably played it perfectly. The Cavs understood their audience the best: LeBron James(notes) and his high school buddies, 25-year-olds trying to play the part of a global corporation but ultimately still reached at a meaningful level with cartoons and locker-room humor.
A week ago, most teams believed they were chasing the Chicago Bulls for James, but that’s flipped in the past days and hours. “My gut tells me Cleveland,” an executive in the James chase told Yahoo! Sports on Sunday. “From what I hear now, it his decision alone. No outside influences.”
Officials from teams who made these presentations went along with the charade, but some questioned the legitimacy of the process based on the kinds of questions that were thrown back to them. “It didn’t take long to realize you’re dealing with 25-year-old kids,” one source said.
So who knows? More conflicting reports, more rumours, more speculation. Here's hoping for the best come July 8th.

Good news about Joe Johnson remaining with the Hawks though, eliminating the possibility that the Bulls can offer him anything like the money he'll now be getting in Atlanta. I've got to give credit to PaxMan here; when they were dragging their feet on hiring a coach last month I had concerns it was going to turn out to be a sign of big talk followed by inaction or setting the bar low on free agents. But here they are targeting the top free agents and making their pitch. If all the top stars do fall through then I'm a bit concerned as to what they'd do once they go into panic mode, but right now, they appear to be doing everything right.
Mon Jul 05, 2010 5:34 pm
Confusious wrote:God, you're so delusional, it's unbearable to talk to you.
Care to elaborate as to why?
Delusional like these?
Yeah, well, instead of listening to what other teams have been offering to him, and attempting to make life better for him, should he stay, they made a joke out of their interview.
It means we really blew him away with our presentation.
Outside of Twitter updates from "insider" sources, which are really reliable, how do you know the Cavs presentation really went? How sure are you that the Bulls presentation blew LeBron away? Were you there? Are you LeBron's agent? OMG YOU'RE LeBRON!
Mon Jul 05, 2010 6:48 pm
shadowgrin wrote:Outside of Twitter updates from "insider" sources, which are really reliable, how do you know the Cavs presentation really went? How sure are you that the Bulls presentation blew LeBron away? Were you there? Are you LeBron's agent? OMG YOU'RE LeBRON!

Mon Jul 05, 2010 6:56 pm
Well this page is certainly interesting.
I feel like I should go find those 2007 or whatever posts of mine about how doomed the Bulls are if they don't clear space and dump their "stars" to top it off.
Mon Jul 05, 2010 7:13 pm
This is such a frustrating waiting period, regardless of whenever he said he would announce the decision. Frustrated, but that's probably a better thing for us. If he were to announce it at the beginning of the camp, it probably would have meant that he'd stay in Cleveland. Why announce that you'd leave right before a camp you'd be hosting in Akron? Awkwardness would ensue. Waiting till after the camp means he can probably avoid direct contact with the Cleveland public till he's ready to make a statement.
And if, just if, he decides to return to Cleveland after pushing it all the way to Thursday, (thereby effectively using all of the FA speculation time given to him) he's just an douche.
If the Cavs showed me that wishy-washy "Woe is us" video, I would have thrown it in their face saying, "Don't show me this shit when you've given me Jamario Moon and Antawn Jamison. You dropped the ball, not me. And I'm pretty sure I saw that one guy in the video booing me at Game 5 during the playoffs. No thanks, guys."
Mon Jul 05, 2010 7:15 pm
Wishy-washy "Woe is us" video, in case nobody saw it yet:
http://www.nba.com/cavaliers/morethanap ... 00630.htmlSimply pathetic.
Mon Jul 05, 2010 7:33 pm
Confusious wrote:if, he decides to return to Cleveland after pushing it all the way to Thursday, (thereby effectively using all of the FA speculation time given to him) he's just an douche.
Confusious wrote:Why do some posters insist on baselessly projecting shallow principles and priorities on other people?
If so, this generation of sports fan is even more warped by superficial celebrity than I previously believed.
Tue Jul 06, 2010 2:18 pm
benji wrote:Well this page is certainly interesting.
I feel like I should go find those 2007 or whatever posts of mine about how doomed the Bulls are if they don't clear space and dump their "stars" to top it off.
how about that one where you said the bulls couldn't dump hinrich's contract

The X wrote:I don't know why you expect Lebron to go to Bulls. It just doesn't make sense to me as this decision has never really been about winning because he has been winning 60-65 games per year in Cleveland, so I don't think it will come down to that. I think he's either going to leave for greener pastures (New York/Brooklyn) or he's going to be loyal (Cleveland). I might be wrong & I'm happy to eat my words, but IMHO Lebron will not be wearing a Bulls' jersey next year.
That being said, I wouldn't be too surprised if Wade did.
i agree and disagree with this. Cleveland has won a lot of regular season games. more important though is that hasn't translated into
playoff wins/NBA championship. i believe James wants to be loyal and also wants to win a championship. Can Cleveland give him that in 3yrs? does James risk 3yrs of his prime to find out??
it seems since the LBJ camp has been pretty quiet the focus has shifted on Wade. and Wade sticking around Chicago for another meeting stoked the media fire.
it's seems ridiculous that Wade would leave Miami. would Riley even let Wade leave?!
its been exciting since the Bulls traded Hinrich. With Amar'e & Joe Johnson off the board, now it's getting nerve wrecking... and annoying since there is no concrete information coming out. since the teams have met with the players, the media has nothing to do now but just speculate
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