Official Boston Celtics Thread

[Sauru]

was a good game too, both teams shot the ball really well. cant expect to win every game all year and orlando is looking pretty good, howard is really starting to step up big for them.

[TheMC5]

You know, if you combined Scott and Brian into one basketball player, he would be the ultimate white weapon. Seven feet tall, a smooth jumpshot, an incredible beard, and hair that is always on fire!

This is the greatest idea ever. I propose we get all our top genetic engineers working on this immediately.

[Its_asdf]

and Scalabrine looked like an idiot out there.

he always looks like an idiot. the fact that he is still on this team only proves that he is a world class kiss ass and for some reason people on the team like. the guy is a fucking waste.

I read an article here a while back (in this forum, I think) that Scal has the same mind type as Michael Jordan.

With that being said, Matt Bonner is still the better red head. Bonner pwnzorz Scalabrine.

[grusom]

You know, if you combined Scott and Brian into one basketball player, he would be the ultimate white weapon. Seven feet tall, a smooth jumpshot, an incredible beard, and hair that is always on fire!

This is the greatest idea ever. I propose we get all our top genetic engineers working on this immediately.

They should add Chris Kamans hair and Luke Ridnours freckles while they are at it.

[Andrew]

I don't know about the MVP just yet (though I agree numbers like that and an impressive record would make him one of the top candidates) but I wouldn't be surprised to see all three represent the East at the All-Star game then find their way onto the All-NBA teams at the end of the season.

I think Ray Allen is the odd one out to miss the ASG and possibly the All-NBA team. He is still the same old Ray Allen and his stats have dropped a bit from last season, but that's expected since it's still early in the season and because he has a better supporting cast.
Paul Pierce and KG is a different story. We now see Pierce's true passing ability as he trusts his teammates more. I really don't see anyone else besides KG getting the MVP except LBJ. Nash will always be a top candidate, but I think the hype around him has settled down a bit and people are still critizing Nowitzki for choking in the Mavs-Warriors series.

He's still putting up fine numbers despite playing alongside two other star players, both of whom are averaging over 20 points per game themselves. I suppose it depends on the performance of other Eastern stars but if the Celtics maintain this pace and their Big Three continues to put up the kind of numbers they are at the moment they'll make a strong case for having all three making the All-Star team.

[Dan's Brain]

I don't know about the MVP just yet (though I agree numbers like that and an impressive record would make him one of the top candidates) but I wouldn't be surprised to see all three represent the East at the All-Star game then find their way onto the All-NBA teams at the end of the season.

I think Ray Allen is the odd one out to miss the ASG and possibly the All-NBA team. He is still the same old Ray Allen and his stats have dropped a bit from last season, but that's expected since it's still early in the season and because he has a better supporting cast.
Paul Pierce and KG is a different story. We now see Pierce's true passing ability as he trusts his teammates more. I really don't see anyone else besides KG getting the MVP except LBJ. Nash will always be a top candidate, but I think the hype around him has settled down a bit and people are still critizing Nowitzki for choking in the Mavs-Warriors series.

He's still putting up fine numbers despite playing alongside two other star players, both of whom are averaging over 20 points per game themselves. I suppose it depends on the performance of other Eastern stars but if the Celtics maintain this pace and their Big Three continues to put up the kind of numbers they are at the moment they'll make a strong case for having all three making the All-Star team.

I think when you consider that it was only 2 years ago that the Pistons had 4 all-stars, and a strong case for Tayshaun Prince to make it as well, the Celtics having three guys make it isnt so absurd. Especially when those 3 guys are perennial all-stars anyway. And there arent many Eastern conference players stepping up this season when they damn well should be.

[benji]

The Pistons should not have had four all-stars. That was a bunch of crap.

Ray Allen is having a "different" year, not a "down" year.

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Allen0506: 25.9pts 4.4rebs 3.8asts 22.2 PER
Allen0607: 26.2pts 4.5rebs 4.1asts 21.6 PER
Allen0708: 19.8pts 4.1rebs 3.6asts 18.8 PER

Looks like he's down, but we can look closer and see he's just seeing fewer possessions and passing more:

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Allen0506: 54.4% eFG, 59.0% TS, 25.3 Usage, 8.8 Tov, 13.4 AsR, 110.6 Pts/Poss
Allen0607: 51.0% eFG, 56.4% TS, 27.4 Usage, 9.2 Tov, 13.6 AsR, 105.8 Pts/Poss
Allen0708: 55.9% eFG, 62.4% TS, 19.4 Usage, 9.6 Tov, 16.7 AsR, 113.9 Pts/Poss

His production is up, he just is seeing fewer possessions (19.4 vs 27.4!) and thus scoring less per minute/game.

Plus, Arenas is out for three months. That's a spot opening up for Ray.

[mvpshaq32]

Well, let's see what spot is left open for Ray.
C-D. Howard
PF-Garnett
SF-Lebron
SG-Wade
PG-Arenas(maybe)
6-Bosh
7-J. Richardson(popular vote with the GSW fans behind him)
8-Shaq
9-Pierce
10-Carter
And everything after this is anybody's guess.
It's likely one of the Pistons will get in and then there's Joe Johnson, Kidd, R. Jefferson, R. Lewis, Redd, and Jermaine.

[benji]

7-J. Richardson(popular vote with the GSW fans behind him)

Irrelevant. Only the starters are chosen by the fan vote.

[mvpshaq32]

Oh that's right, I remember asking about that once and I forgot it.

[J J]

Carter is injured. I doubt Pierce will get in.

[Amphatoast]

in short, with injuries to carter, and arenas, it is possible that ray allen and pierce may make it on the team as reserves.

I don't think JO may make it since the pacers are actually better without him apparently.

Bosh is the only lock for the bench as of now. Caron Butler & Kidd (if he doesn't start0 also seems like a good choices.

[J J]

Out:

- Carter
- Pierce
- Arenas
- J Richardson

In:

- Redd
- Kidd
- Lewis
- Igoudala

[Sauru]

Out:

- Carter
- Pierce
- Arenas
- J Richardson

In:
- Redd
- Kidd
- Lewis
- Igoudala

if Iguodala makes it over Pierce it will be a fucking travesty

[TheMC5]

I still don't get why Smush would grow a fro.

Because fro's are about a million times cooler than cornrows?


And Peirce is a lock for the ASG. No question about it. Celtics will be winning, and we all know how much the coaches love guys on teams with winning records.

[Patr1ck]

He's trying to get more hangtime because afro's act as a parachute.

[Andrew]

I've had a chance to watch a couple of Celtics games in the past couple of weeks with another one coming up on ESPN Australia this Saturday and I have to say they're a fun team to watch the Big Three. They caught a tough break with Allen missing those free throws against the Cavs yesterday, certainly uncharacteristic of him.

[mvpshaq32]

Lebron has really imprved his FT shooting from last year. Just keeps getting better and better.
Never thought I would see Ray Allen miss two free throws in a row, let alone free throws that possibly would have won the game for the Celts...

[Chaoot]

To revive a thread about a great team, on track to beat the legendary 72... well what do you guys think, can they do it (barring no injuries to their elite)??

I know it's early to raise it up, but we all know it will be coming under attention soon, so why not start with it now. I for one feel they can do it, i mean two losses out of twenty games, both very close, against only good teams, winning by an average of practically 14 (13.8) points (six more than the next best team) with the bulls' 12,2...

so let's hear it, best team ever?

[Sauru]

i feel they can do, but they wont do it. what really impresses me is the way the other guys are playing, they are all stepping up and playing much better than most anticipated.

[shadowgrin]

No, they can't. Their primary role players are inconsistent unlike the 72-win Bulls.

[Andrew]

Huge bump here, I guess this one got lost in the shuffle.

The Celtics just won their sixteenth straight on a wild finish in Atlanta, narrowly avoiding the overtime when Mike Bibby's last second three grazed the front of the rim. Great block by Perkins a couple of plays before that to save the lead and force the Hawks to foul after Rondo picked up the loose ball. Still too early to talk 70 but at this rate I'd pick them to match last year's win total, maybe even pushing as high as 67 or 68 wins. If they don't reach the 70 win plateau, they'll finish respectably close to it.

[erik_twism]

The season is still long and everything has to go the right way if they want to reach 70 or come close (injury, stay focused, no shooting slumps)
But a different question, do you think Rondo can get a real Kidd like tripple double threat? He is playing great this season but is he overachieving or is he for real? (I can´t watch games here so I can´t judge his game)

[Andrew]

Possibly, he's a great rebounder for a player his size and he gets a good amount of assists so maybe he'll start racking up a few more triple doubles and draw more comparisons to Kidd, though I think that comparison is a bit premature at this time. Playing for the Celtics helps but I don't think he'd be playing as well as he is without any legitimate talent. He needs to become a more dependable free throw shooter though.

[Andrew]

Make it eighteen in a row for the Celtics to tie a franchise record. With Philadelphia up next, they could well be carrying a streak of 19 wins into their Christmas Day clash with the Lakers.