The Knicks Thread....

[Mayerhendrix]

Which video?

Sorry I quote the wrong person but I was talking about the Darko vid where he went off on the refs. I found it later though.

The one where he says something to the effect of, "I will go and fuck each and every one of their mothers" and the like? Interesting video.

[Andrew]

Which video?

The one you posted in the initial response...

Are you losing it?

I remember that video, but I don't recall posting it myself. Not recently, at any rate.

[Jackal]

No you just posted it man, it was in the post before you edited it.

[Andrew]

Oh...gotcha.

[NYKNICK]

Which video?

The one you posted in the initial response...

Are you losing it?

I remember that video, but I don't recall posting it myself. Not recently, at any rate.

Ya he really seemed ticked off. Maybe if he used some of that energy on the court in the NBA he would be better. If anything NY is an awesome place for under-achievers.

[shadowgrin]

What?
Knicks fans are one of the if not the ruthless fans in the NBA. Under-achievers get booed at most on their second game.

[Andrew]

Exactly, he won't endear himself to anyone if he underachieves in New York. Assuming he doesn't call it quits on the NBA after this season, my guess is that his stint with the Knicks will be brief.

[NYKNICK]

Exactly, he won't endear himself to anyone if he underachieves in New York. Assuming he doesn't call it quits on the NBA after this season, my guess is that his stint with the Knicks will be brief.

Thats exactly what I meant. All under achievers end up in NY. Maybe he will step it up when he hears the boos.

[shadowgrin]

Yes, step up just like Zach Randolph, or Stephon Marbury, or Eddy Curry, or Jerome James, or Steve Francis, or Jalen Rose, or ....

[Andrew]

...or Larry Hughes, by midseason. Though he's an expiring contract and I'm sure his contract was set to run beyond this year they wouldn't have made that trade.

[Mayerhendrix]

In all honesty, NY isn't under much pressure to do well. Regardless of how they do, ticket prices at MSG are still insanely high and the crowd is often near-capacity, if not a full arena altogether. If Dolan's aiming to make profits and leaving quality of basketball second, the Knicks are arguably a successful franchise.

[Andrew]

I don't know about that...I'd say with the scrutiny of the fans and the media the pressure is there, but Dolan filters it somewhat.

[Mayerhendrix]

Year after year, the Knicks continue to be the most valuable + profitable franchise in the league. They're a sports fan's hell and an owner's heaven.

[Jeffx]

Year after year, the Knicks continue to be the most valuable + profitable franchise in the league. They're a sports fan's hell and an owner's heaven.

No matter how bad the team sucks(and they will suck again this season), folks still flock to the Garden. Remember, many of them aren't real fans, but corporate-types entertaining clients.

[Andrew]

Knicks don't expect too much from Curry

Eddy Curry's big comeback is already being squelched by the Knicks, who open training camp Tuesday in Saratoga.

Though Donnie Walsh said the 6-11 Curry last week weighed in at 317 - about 40 pounds less than last season - there was noticeable hesitation about just how impressive Curry actually will look when he's back on the court next week.

"I think it's going to take him time to get back into a flow," Walsh said of Curry, who appeared in only two games last season, mainly because of knee injuries that were the result of weight and conditioning issues.

After three months of intense work, Curry rejoined his teammates at the MSG Training Center last week. He has participated in a few scrimmages, but according to several people within the organization, he had to leave a game with a hamstring strain earlier this week.

I'm guessing he's not going to get much of a run with the Knicks again this year. No doubt they'd still move him if they could but I don't think any of the contenders who won't be in a position to make a run at the big name free agents next year will be interested and since his contract runs through 2011, anyone trying to trim their payroll and save space for 2010 isn't going to want to take him on either.

This article has some quotes from Walsh on the Knicks' 2010 prospects:

Walsh added that the Knicks also have many things to offer, aside from the win-now aspect.

"I think that it's a bigger decision than that for most free agents," he said. "I think the fact that it's New York plays into it, how good our team is plays into it, that we have a great coach in Mike D'Antoni plays into it.

"There's a lot more factors than just how many good players do they have . . . They have to want to leave, to a degree, their home team. And the home team can always keep them because they are always able to give more money."

I think that pretty much sums it up. If the Knicks are going to land one or two of the marquee free agents next year, it'll be because they don't have faith in their current team to take the next step or they've clashed with the front office. I could see someone like Amar'e Stoudemire going to the Knicks before a LeBron or a Wade. The mere fact the Knicks are in New York is probably a factor, but if it comes down to being part of a squad that is well on the road to being a contender then it might not be enough. Walsh's blueprint for rebuilding is either going to be a spectacular success or failure; I don't think there'll be any midground. There'll be a major coup, or a major letdown.

[J@3]

Every year they talk about how much weight Curry has lost. The guy clearly puts it all back on as soon as he steps off the scales, because he'd weigh close to minus 70lbs if all the weight he'd supposedly lost every season actually stayed off.

[Andrew]

True. Even if he has "slimmed" down to 317, it's doubtful he's an athletic or lean 300+ pounds as Shaq was early in his career, or even now as he's not in too bad shape at the moment.

[Jeffx]

After three months of intense work, Curry rejoined his teammates at the MSG Training Center last week. He has participated in a few scrimmages, but according to several people within the organization, he had to leave a game with a hamstring strain earlier this week.

Not surprised. What GM would be fool enough to take this blob off the Knicks hands?

[Andrew]

None come immediately to mind. If he was an expiring contract there might be a couple of teams that would take a chance if only to have him come off the books at the end of the year, but as he's unlikely to opt out I'd be very surprised if he gets moved.

[Andrew]

There's some hopeful speculation that Curry could opt-out after all, if he can impress anyone enough this season to draw interest and earn an opportunity for more minutes elsewhere. Of course, he's not off to the best start with his calf injury.

[Jeffx]

Knick fans, you'll love this.....

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baske ... curry.html


What a fucking waste. I wish we could just dump this fat toad and be done with him.

[Andrew]

It's a good thing for Curry that NBA contracts don't include an out-clause that allow a team to release them and void the contract if they are unable to fulfill their obligations for an extended period time, nor reach an acceptable level of performance. I can't see him opting out now.

[shadowgrin]

Might be a good idea if someone brings that up in the next CBA negotiations.

[Jeffx]

New York Knicks 2009 - A Season of Uncertainity

Looks like another year(8th straight) of lousy basketball at the Garden. But with Walsh in charge, there is light at the end of the tunnel.

http://www.wfan.com/pages/5395539.php?

[Andrew]

Might be a good idea if someone brings that up in the next CBA negotiations.

I don't think they could ever get it through. It'd be difficult to fairly define what constitutes an acceptable level of performance or participation.