(1) Cavaliers Vs. (4) Celtics

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How Will This Series Go Down?

Cavaliers In 4
1
2%
Cavaliers In 5
3
7%
Cavaliers In 6
9
21%
Cavaliers In 7
3
7%
Celtics In 4 (lol)
4
9%
Celtics In 5
1
2%
Celtics In 6
7
16%
Celtics In 7
4
9%
Taking LeBron over Darko was a travesty.
4
9%
This series is about to suck.
2
5%
Rajon Rondo is the weak link in the Celtics' starting five
0
No votes
UBUNTU.
5
12%
 
Total votes : 43

Re: (1) Cavaliers Vs. (4) Celtics

Postby Andrew on Sat May 15, 2010 8:55 am

Agreed. He had his aggressive moments in Game 6 but they were basically all in the first half. Games 5 and 6 were not LeBron at his best.
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Re: (1) Cavaliers Vs. (4) Celtics

Postby rise on Sat May 15, 2010 10:42 am

Crap.
Lebron's going to be pissed in the near future.

At himself.
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Re: (1) Cavaliers Vs. (4) Celtics

Postby Sauru on Sun May 16, 2010 10:34 am

Jeffx wrote:Something was up with LeBron in this series. Maybe it was his injury, I don't know. Even the great ones stumble at times in the playoffs, but LeBron didn't go down swinging.



lebron was obviously feeling the enormous weight of inevitability.



and yes andrew you could say that. i play a weekly poker game and 2 of the players are from ohio both skipped this fridays game
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Re: (1) Cavaliers Vs. (4) Celtics

Postby NovU on Sun May 16, 2010 1:18 pm

Hearing the rumour of West sleeping with James's mother, if this is anything close to be true, this could have been the factor that killed chemistry within the team. Well... also the chance of Lebron staying.
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Re: (1) Cavaliers Vs. (4) Celtics

Postby Andrew on Sun May 16, 2010 1:26 pm

No one else seems to be picking up the story though, so I have my doubts.
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Re: (1) Cavaliers Vs. (4) Celtics

Postby Riot on Sun May 16, 2010 9:05 pm

What Lebron needs is a hall of fame coach who is going to get in his ear and show him how to play championship basketball. I know Phil Jackson is a free agent after this year but I can't see him leaving the Lakers with his girlfriend Jeannie and all. What about Larry Brown? I heard rumors about him uncertain if he will return to the Bobcats or not. I just don't see a guy like Mike Brown or some average Joe coach being able to come in and get Lebron's attention. He needs someone who is higher on the food chain than him and there aren't many people who are. If Cleveland is smart they would open their wallets up and try to get their hands on Jackson or Brown.
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Re: (1) Cavaliers Vs. (4) Celtics

Postby benji on Sun May 16, 2010 9:24 pm

LeBron revolted against Paul Silas, which is why Mike Brown was hired since he'd do whatever LeBron said. The problem is Mike Brown couldn't be counted on to save the team. The Cavaliers needed a more inventive coach who still went along with his star most of the time, like a Flip Saunders.

Larry Brown would be the worst thing for LeBron. Brown, like his namesake Hubie, has the ability to push a team in one season, but after that it goes drastically downhill as his players hate him.
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Re: (1) Cavaliers Vs. (4) Celtics

Postby NovU on Sun May 16, 2010 10:17 pm

Sounds like Spoeltra is the perfect man for Lebron.
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Re: (1) Cavaliers Vs. (4) Celtics

Postby Jackal on Mon May 17, 2010 8:13 am

Phil Jackson said that if he returned to coaching it would be to the Lakers only, it was asked when Chicago got their opening.

So yeah...that's not happening. Lebron is always welcome to come play for him in LA though.
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Re: (1) Cavaliers Vs. (4) Celtics

Postby Sauru on Mon May 17, 2010 8:37 am

a good coach could bring this exact cleveland team a championship. this team is good enough they are just very poorly coached and they ran into a renewed celtics team. if lebron cant handle playing for a actual coach and not some idiot who just says yes to his superstar then he might never got a ring
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Re: (1) Cavaliers Vs. (4) Celtics

Postby Riot on Mon May 17, 2010 10:16 am

benji wrote:LeBron revolted against Paul Silas, which is why Mike Brown was hired since he'd do whatever LeBron said. The problem is Mike Brown couldn't be counted on to save the team. The Cavaliers needed a more inventive coach who still went along with his star most of the time, like a Flip Saunders.

Larry Brown would be the worst thing for LeBron. Brown, like his namesake Hubie, has the ability to push a team in one season, but after that it goes drastically downhill as his players hate him.


Paul Silas is a good coach but he isn't on the level of Phil Jackson or even Larry Brown. Lebron needs a coach that can say to him, "Sit down and shut up and listen to me. I got my rings I don't need you, you need me." There are only a handful of coaches who can say that.
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Re: (1) Cavaliers Vs. (4) Celtics

Postby Andrew on Mon May 17, 2010 10:20 am

But that's the question, is there any coach who could feasibly do that and have LeBron respond positively to it?
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Re: (1) Cavaliers Vs. (4) Celtics

Postby dare on Mon May 17, 2010 10:27 am

Byron Scott, Flip Saunders, Red Auerbach (RIP)
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Re: (1) Cavaliers Vs. (4) Celtics

Postby Sauru on Mon May 17, 2010 11:11 am

Andrew wrote:But that's the question, is there any coach who could feasibly do that and have LeBron respond positively to it?



that depends on his character to be honest. if he can realize that he is not the end all of the basketball world and he will never ever ever win a ring without a well coached team behind him then he can take that kind of talk. however i see lebron as a player who feels he is bigger than the team he is playing for and that is why he keeps falling flat on his ass
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Re: (1) Cavaliers Vs. (4) Celtics

Postby rise on Mon May 17, 2010 11:18 am

Sauru wrote:
Andrew wrote:But that's the question, is there any coach who could feasibly do that and have LeBron respond positively to it?



that depends on his character to be honest. if he can realize that he is not the end all of the basketball world and he will never ever ever win a ring without a well coached team behind him then he can take that kind of talk. however i see lebron as a player who feels he is bigger than the team he is playing for and that is why he keeps falling flat on his ass

Exactly.
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Re: (1) Cavaliers Vs. (4) Celtics

Postby Jeffx on Mon May 17, 2010 11:31 am

Andrew wrote:But that's the question, is there any coach who could feasibly do that and have LeBron respond positively to it?



The one coach who would have been perfect for LeBron was the late Chuck Daly. Look at the egos he dealt with in Detroit. Phil Jackson is good at managing egos too. While Larry Brown is a HOF coach, his abrasiveness and whining rubs veterans the wrong way. He's perfect for a young team that needs to be taught. Larry likes to break players down and mold them in his image, especially his point guards. If the superstar doesn't buy into the coache's system, the coach is finished(see Paul Westhead in LA, Bill Fitch in Boston, Don Nelson in NY).

And I disagree with LeBron - his legacy IS being written now. Fans want to see how he'll respond. Will he come back with a vengeance like Magic, Larry, Michael & Kobe did afte bad playoff losses?

Magic said it best - he wanted to see LeBron take that game over, be more assertive(Like Magic did in Game 6 of the '80 Finals)
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Re: (1) Cavaliers Vs. (4) Celtics

Postby Andrew on Mon May 17, 2010 11:32 am

Spot on, Jeffx. (Y)

Sauru wrote:that depends on his character to be honest. if he can realize that he is not the end all of the basketball world and he will never ever ever win a ring without a well coached team behind him then he can take that kind of talk. however i see lebron as a player who feels he is bigger than the team he is playing for and that is why he keeps falling flat on his ass


Oh, of course. I believe it's one of those character traits that can be overcome by adversity and having to deal with disappointing losses in the postseason though. Some players are never going to get it no matter because that's just the way we human beings are at times, but hopefully for LeBron's sake, it clicks. Easier said than done with an entourage of yes men.
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