Lakers Thread

by **kingtrobe807** on Sun Jul 16, 2006 3:09 pm

kobes surgery was a minor one....i woundt see anything wrong with him having it...i mean i wan him to atlease get to the 40 ppg next season...lol...he is human after all....

by **Cloudy** on Sun Jul 16, 2006 6:32 pm

Oh shit, I was anticipating his presence at the World Championships...

Wanted to see how he'll dominate against other international players... But damn, he looks like a chicken here... Hope he didn't get that surgery on purpose as an excuse... :lol:

by **Jackal** on Sun Jul 16, 2006 8:21 pm

Yeah, having surgery is the best kind of excuse one could have. Surgery, a potential carreer ender, but he just had it to not play in the World Championships. Cloudy, you is the wisest. :bowdown:

by **Cloudy** on Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:21 pm

Yes I is the wisest... Who knows what he really thinks, you and me are no Kobe... :shifty:

by **Jackal** on Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:29 am

If you know anything about Kobe you'd know he's not a quiter. The last post was a cop out.

Bryant is one of the most competitve players to play the game, and you say he had surgery to not play? O...kay.

by **kingtrobe807** on Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:33 am

yea..Kobe 100% did not have surgery to stop playing NBA...What a dumbnut....If anything hes having surgery to improve himself in staying longer IN the NBA.....

by **Jackal** on Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:51 am

He meant he had surgery to be able to say "I had surgery, this is the reason why I can not play in the World Championships." Not about not playing in the NBA.

by **kingtrobe807** on Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:55 am

oh..sorry..must have not read his..i just read yours and thats what it sounded..
heres an article about Kobes Surgery..

Bryant Opts to Fix Knee
Lakers guard undergoes procedure that could force him to sit out part of training camp in October. He's out of world championships.
By Mike Bresnahan, Times Staff Writer
July 16, 2006

Kobe Bryant underwent arthroscopic surgery in his right knee Saturday and could sit out part of training camp in October because of a recovery time of up to 12 weeks.

Bryant, 27, will be out at least eight weeks after undergoing a procedure to clean out scar tissue and loose cartilage in the same knee that has given him problems. The surgery began at 9 a.m. at an undisclosed Southern California hospital and lasted a little over an hour.

"He misses maybe the start of training camp, but as you're aware, Kobe is probably in the best condition of anybody in the league, which shouldn't set him back," Lakers spokesman John Black said. "Nobody in the league works harder than Kobe. He'll be back at 100%."

The knee was one of many physical issues that nagged Bryant last season, and he played with an athletic sleeve over it at times to try to control swelling. The soreness was an on-and-off condition and lingered after the Lakers were eliminated by Phoenix on May 6 in the first round of the playoffs.

After the knee failed to heal with time, Bryant elected for surgery.

"It's our understanding that it's pretty minor, typical arthroscopic surgery to clean up some scar tissue," Black said.

The Lakers begin training camp on or around Oct. 1, probably at the team training facility in El Segundo.

Bryant had arthroscopic surgery in the same knee in July 2003 to relieve pain caused by persistent swelling during the 2002-03 season. For that procedure, Bryant left Los Angeles on a private jet, with Lakers management and medical personnel unaware that he was traveling to Vail, Colo., to have surgery.

Bryant's high-contact, attacking style makes him one of the NBA's most entertaining players but also puts him at greater risk for injury.

He has played all 82 regular-season games only once in his 10-year career. He would have played all 82 last season if not for his two-game suspension for committing a flagrant foul on Memphis guard Mike Miller in December.

Gary Brazina, an orthopedic surgeon at the Marina del Rey campus of the Centinela Freeman Regional Medical Center, said NBA players are susceptible to injuries that require this type of surgery.

"In people who jump, plant and cut, we see an injury that is softening or fissuring of the articular [joint] cartilage," said Brazina, who did not perform Bryant's surgery and had not viewed any of his pre-surgery files. "Frequently what they will do is 'debris' that area — clean it out, smooth it off."

Bryant, who led the league in scoring with 35.4 points a game, will not play for Team USA at the FIBA World Championship tournament Aug. 19-Sept. 3 in Japan, although he plans to attend the team's training camp that starts Wednesday in Las Vegas. He also plans to travel with Team USA for exhibitions in China and South Korea.

The loss of Bryant is the latest to befall a shrinking Team USA roster.

Lakers forward Lamar Odom will not be at the team's training camp because of the death of his infant son, Jayden, last month in New York. Boston forward Paul Pierce and Orlando guard J.J. Redick have dropped out because of injuries.

Team USA now has 20 players on its roster, including LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Carmelo Anthony and Gilbert Arenas.

"We trust that Kobe will have a total and speedy recovery, and we were pleased that he expressed a willingness to remain as involved with our team as possible through this process," USA Basketball managing director Jerry Colangelo said in a statement. "Kobe being with the team will add to our team chemistry and his presence will help provide valuable off-court leadership."

The U.S. has struggled in international play in recent years, taking a bronze medal at the Athens Olympics and finishing sixth at the world championships in 2002.

In addition to an aching knee, Bryant worked through a laundry list of injuries last season — a balky ankle, tender wrist, sore hips and back spasms — but said before the playoffs that he felt fine.

"I feel physically great, as great as you can feel this time of year," he said in April, four days before the Lakers began their series against the Suns. "I don't have any injuries. I feel great."

Bryant generally recovers faster than expected, most notably toward the end of the 2003-04 season, when he was expected to be sidelined several weeks because of a sprained right shoulder but sat out only five games.

The injuries, however, have begun to pile up in recent years.

During the summer of 2003, he had the knee surgery in Colorado and shoulder surgery. He didn't play in 17 games during the 2003-04 season mainly because of shoulder and finger injuries, and sat out 14 games in 2004-05 because of a severe ankle sprain.

Nobody in league history has played more games at age 27 than Bryant, who became a full-time starter for the Lakers in 1998-99, his third season in the league. Bryant, who turns 28 next month, has played in 707 regular-season games and 126 in the playoffs.

He has five years and $106.3 million left on his contract.

by **Ehsan Gamer** on Mon Jul 17, 2006 4:11 pm

Hi I want to know when is the first match of USA team

PEACE

by **-Young Buck-** on Mon Jul 17, 2006 6:00 pm

Ehsan Gamer wrote:Hi I want to know when is the first match of USA team

PEACE

so you posted it in the lakers thread? brilliant! :lol:

by **Laker Socks** on Mon Jul 17, 2006 6:34 pm

You have to admire Kobe. He is having surgery on his own free time. He's not using company time to take care of his injury. He wants to be ready by the start of the season. N ifs no buts, his priority is the lakers. No parties, no movies.

How many players in the NBA nurses an injury in their own free time? Well, certainly not the great former laker with 3 championship rings. :lol:

by **Fenix** on Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:29 pm

Lol, no one will worship Kobe simply because he had a surgery during the summer. Basketball is his job, where does it say it's just a part time employement? If he doesn't perform during the regular season, he won't get the money from the advertisements. So it's good for bussiness for him to have the surgery now.

by **Ehsan Gamer** on Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:52 pm

Hey I am not stupid I want to know How much time left for kobe maybe he can

play and we can watch better basketball you know basketball without kobe is (N)

by **[Q]** on Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:15 am

Laker Socks wrote:Wow. Andrew Bynum was a monster on the second game.

Pinnock is showing that he is a 2-way player. The only 2 way player on the lakers last season was Kobe Bryant. Good pickup by Mitch.

As for Farmar, he's another matador.

As far as Pinnock goes, I like his game. I watched him play in Long BEach a few days ago and he has some skills on both ends of the floor and athleticism to burn...

I am a Farmar fan despite not liking the Lakers, but he has an okay shot. He'll hit a 3 once in a while, but he won't be very consistent. He had some really nice passes in the game I saw and he did this up & under move in the lane that impressed me.
I went with my friend who had a class with Farmar at UCLA. :lol:

Laker Socks wrote:How many players in the NBA nurses an injury in their own free time? Well, certainly not the great former laker with 3 championship rings.

If you're talking about Shaq, he has FOUR the last time I checked... one more than Kobe (Y)

If you're talking about Payton, he has one...

should have two with that "hall of fame" Laker team.

by **Laker Socks** on Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:10 pm

WTF? Yeah, Shaq has 4 rings, so what's your point captain obvious? :roll:

Im talking about players using company time to nurse their injuries. Shaq is one of those. Of course, there are also players who use their own time to nurse their injuries like Kobe.

Now, why does anyone need to point out the amount of rings? Jeez you fools act like Shaq averaged 20/10 in the finals with Wade. :lol:

Jesus Fenix, who is worshiping Kobe? Is it part-time? No. Is he required to nurse his injuries during his own free time(which is before training camp)? No. But you have to credit the guy for doing it. Lakers first, all other basketball and irrelevant stuff second.

Ugh. :roll:

by **Jackal** on Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:08 pm

Laker socks, you're hilarious.

WTF? Yeah, Shaq has 4 rings, so what's your point captain obvious?

Well, you brought up Shaq despite not using his name. You mentioned a former Laker great using company time to nurse his injuries and you said he had 3 rings. Well, he pointed out that Shaq has 4, not 3. You got all worked up because he pointed that out.

Im talking about players using company time to nurse their injuries. Shaq is one of those. Of course, there are also players who use their own time to nurse their injuries like Kobe.

Don't be stupid. You were talking about Shaq. Now you just feel stupid he pointed out Shaq doesn't have 3, but 4 rings.

Now, why does anyone need to point out the amount of rings?

Who began mentioning rings again? Oh yeah, it was you.

Jeez you fools act like Shaq averaged 20/10 in the finals with Wade.

Laugh it up all you want, fact of the matter remains he's won one more. Besides, it's not as if he was a Mitch Richmond when he was with the Lakers. How much more can you downplay the guy? Jeez.

by **air gordon** on Wed Jul 19, 2006 9:09 am

lol...
some people should realize many players put off surgery during the regular season/have the surgery done in the offseason

apparently some Lakers fan suffer from Napoleon complex... or should i should i say Shaq complex?

by **Laker Socks** on Thu Jul 20, 2006 7:13 pm

lol jackal, thanks, i didnt even notice that i said shaq has only 3 rings.

Who began mentioning rings again? Oh yeah, it was you.

I was obviously talking about Shaq's preference to nurse his injuries on company time.

Yes, i am a bitter fan, there could've been more than 4 rings in Shaq's finger is he took care of his injuries in the offseason.

Laugh it up all you want, fact of the matter remains he's won one more. Besides, it's not as if he was a Mitch Richmond when he was with the Lakers. How much more can you downplay the guy? Jeez.

Woah. calm down. no one's downplaying Shaq. I find it amusing how worked up you're getting with this one.
I was merely reminding gloveguy who the main man was for the nba champs. Seriously, calm down for a second.

apparently some Lakers fan suffer from Napoleon complex... or should i should i say Shaq complex?

hell yeah.

by **kingtrobe807** on Fri Jul 21, 2006 9:09 am

Glad to see that Lakers have hired Cleamons back on the coaching staff....

by **Laker Socks** on Fri Jul 21, 2006 1:02 pm

More laker news!

Lakers center Andrew Bynum has a bone bruise on his right knee as a result of summer-league play in Long Beach on Tuesday night.

He is expected to take about two weeks off to recover.

by **Fenix** on Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:14 pm

It's funny how guys@LakersGround went from Bynum aka The Next Kareem to Bynum aka The Next Magloire. I wonder which comparison will they choose next year :lol:

.

by **Dan's Brain** on Fri Jul 21, 2006 10:11 pm

The next DeSagana Diop.

by **kinokong** on Fri Jul 21, 2006 10:13 pm

lol not as overweight... i think

by **jonnyboy261** on Sat Jul 22, 2006 1:02 pm

:delete:

by **Laker Socks** on Sat Jul 22, 2006 1:12 pm

It's funny how guys@LakersGround went from Bynum aka The Next Kareem to Bynum

Seriously Vank. You're talking about lakersground. That forum is full of idiots. Besides, it's funny how people even take the comments in LG seriously and still remember these comments. :lol:

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