Lakers Thread

Grant Hill was good also at being a point-foward before his injury problems..

LeBron could be considered a point forward too.

Others considered to be Point Forwards could be Magic Johnson, Rick Barry & Tracy McGrady.

Btw, dude who didn't know what a point forward was, Wikipedia has a topic dedicated to "Point Forwards".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_forward

( You know, when I was thinking of who wrote they didn't know what a point forward was, I was going to use that person's name, but then I'd have to scroll up and read his name, so I decided I'd just use "person who didn't know what a point forward was" and typing all that took up a lot more effort than if I'd just scrolled up. )

Don't ask.

Brent Barry played point guard for the sonics the entire season after they traded Gary Payton and even most of the next season.

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Not if he was hired in the 96 season, Jerry West didn't trade the starting center to watch what he predicted to be one of the best players of the future to be benched. I don't think West would've tolerated Bryant not playing.

I could be wrong though, but it just doesn't seem logical.

Steve Kerr > Lamar Odom

Odom doesn't play like Kerr. Odom plays like Kukoc. Stay on-topic

That is seriously the dumbest post i've read in this forum.

Besides, Odom plays nothing like Kukoc. Idiot..

Anyways, Jerry West would've tried to fix the rift between Kobe and shaq and im 100% certain that if West would decide to trade Shaq, he would've gotten better value than what Mitch would've gotten.

Of course, the lakers would also have to choose between Phil Jackson and Jerry West. We all know their strong dislike for each other led to the logo making the grizzlies a franchise worth mentioning.

Also, West traded Divac to clear cap space to sign Shaq. He had enough balls to trade their only center for Kobe even without a promise from Shaq that he would sign. In the process, West raped the hornets big time.

Besides, Odom plays nothing like Kukoc.

The fact is that Kukoc was one of the best passers at his size and was always the one dribbling up court, esp. in fastbreaks.
Im not saying they play in exactly the same way, but they really have a lot of similarities, but Odom is more of a inside player while Kukoc is more of a shooter.
EDIT: on topic, I dun see Radmanovic deserving that much money, I see him as somewhat an upgrade of Cook.

Kobe didnt do a whole lot his rookie season anyway, he didnt even average 10ppg.

That is seriously the dumbest post i've read in this forum.

I agree, I'm ashamed of myself

Anyway, Odom plays a lot more like Kukoc than Nesterovic. I know I'm just quoting Fenix here, but...

What are Lamar's strengths? Ability to play both forward positions + point forward, ballhandling, passing, playmaking. What were Kukoc's strengths?

Radmanovic has never been a point forward. He's just a PF who has the ability to shoot the 3, so that's what he does. He doesn't handle the ball like Lamar and Kukoc does.

I fail to see what is so funny in this discussion. Have you reached puberty?

How can a perimeter oriented player have the same style as a slasher?
Seriously kid, Kukoc never played point forward back when he was with the bulls. I dont know about Milwaukee but he was definitely not a point forward in chicago.

Anyway, Odom plays a lot more like Kukoc than Nesterovic. I know I'm just quoting Fenix here, but...

This is lame. This does not even imply anything to help prove your point. Are you just typing words for the sake of making your post look longer?

Radmanovic has never been a point forward. He's just a PF who has the ability to shoot the 3, so that's what he does. He doesn't handle the ball like Lamar and Kukoc does.

Kukoc was not a point forward. Radanovic is not a PF, he is a tweener, he has the versatilty to switch between two positions.
Kukoc does not handle the ball like Lamar does. Lamar sets up the offense when he's on the floor, Kukoc did not even have that role in the tri.

Seriously kid, can you actually put up a decent discussion regarding the NBA for once? Also, get your facts straight before spewing out that garbage. Lamar and Kukoc have different skillsets and they obviously played different roles in the triangle.

I fail to see what is so funny in this discussion. Have you reached puberty?

Why are you so interested? Are you into childs? Besides, who the fuck do you think you are?

This is lame. This does not even imply anything to help prove your point. Are you just typing words for the sake of making your post look longer?

I just realized I put Nesterovic instead of Radmanovic

Kukoc was not a point forward. Radanovic is not a PF, he is a tweener, he has the versatilty to switch between two positions.
Kukoc does not handle the ball like Lamar does. Lamar sets up the offense when he's on the floor, Kukoc did not even have that role in the tri.

Kukoc had the ability to play point forward, and he does that in Milwaukee now, when he gets playing time. Even if Vlad can switch between the F's spot, he's never been a ball-handler.

Seriously kid, can you actually put up a decent discussion regarding the NBA for once? Also, get your facts straight before spewing out that garbage. Lamar and Kukoc have different skillsets and they obviously played different roles in the triangle.

Kid? You're fucking Dweaver I should've learnt from Fenix, and stop arguing with you. I don't wat to get more stupid than I already am.

Why are you so interested? Are you into childs? Crazy Besides, who the fuck do you think you are

Can you please think of a better comeback kiddo?

I just realized I put Nesterovic instead of Radmanovic

Either way, you still lack the knowledge to participate in a half decent NBA discussion.

Kukoc had the ability to play point forward, and he does that in Milwaukee now, when he gets playing time. Even if Vlad can switch between the F's spot, he's never been a ball-handler.

Bullshit. He has the ability? Says who? You? Phil Jackson did not trust him to be his initiator. That says a lot about his point forward abilities.

How many bucks games have you actually watched to come up with such an outrageous statement?

Vlad has never been asked to be the ball handler and Kukoc was never tasked to be an initiator. See the connection? Obviously, Kukoc has better ballhandling ablity than Radman but they have the same skillsets and i fail to see the reason as to why you keep on ignoring that point.

Kid? You're fucking Dweaver Rolling Eyes I should've learnt from Fenix, and stop arguing with you. I don't wat to get more stupid than I already am.

You honestly think your posts make sense? no, they dont. You spam you way and i've yet to see you post an actual knowledgeable opinion on NBA talk. Seriously, you state your opinions but you cant even elaborate adequately for your argument to be at least worth respecting.

Fenix? We disagree a lot, but i've always respected his knowledge. Unlike you, he does not pull garbage out of nowhere and use it as an argument in an NBA discussion.

who the fuck do you think I am? Certianly not the idiot insulting people because they dont like the way others post. yet fail to see the garbage he spews up in the forums.

TO EVERYONE- WHO CARES.....GET OVER IT.......LAKERS GOT RADMANOVIC. JUST WAIT UNTILL U WATCH HIM AS A LAKER TO LEAVE COMMENTS ABOUT HIS GAME

I thought Drex was like 20 years old .

Anyways, Laker boards have been raving about Bynum's recent dominance in practice.

2 comments from LG:

Especially that I was listening to Alan Massingale (covering for Dave Smith) and after talking to Joel Meyers, he said about Bynum(paraphrased), "We're privy to things you all don't get to see, and this kid developed a nasty streak down the stretch of the season [in practice] and he started [this is an exact quote] dominating with his athleticism. Just blocking everyone."

He said Bynum had been getting his shot blocked by some of the smaller guys and that there came a point where he just got pissed, and then it clicked to him to JUMP and ATTACK from up off the ground. He finally just took to the air - something they had been trying to get him to do since he'd never learned the aerial part of the game - and then he started showing a mean streak and being dominant.

To back up what Jam said - Phil said on Bynum that next season he saw some areas/situations where he would be DOMINATING the game. I thought Phil was just being Phil, but it seems with this practice report that Jam heard on the radio, it's possible he is going to get better quicker than most think.

Im definitely excited for the SPL now. Last year, Bynum did well in the SPL as a raw, out of shape 18 year old.
Now, he has a mean streak going and has apparently learned how to best utilize his physical tools.

Can you please think of a better comeback kiddo?

That's surely a lot better than "Have you reached puberty?"

Either way, you still lack the knowledge to participate in a half decent NBA discussion.

Yup, I definately lack the knowledge of guys like fgrep, Andrew or air gordon.

Bullshit. He has the ability? Says who? You? Phil Jackson did not trust him to be his initiator. That says a lot about his point forward abilities.

Pippen was the point forward in Chicago. We all know he's clearly better than Kukoc.
Why trust him with something when you have a much better player right there.

How many bucks games have you actually watched to come up with such an outrageous statement?

Actually, I got to see quite a few Bucks games, due to that Bogut guy.

Vlad has never been asked to be the ball handler and Kukoc was never tasked to be an initiator. See the connection? Obviously, Kukoc has better ballhandling ablity than Radman but they have the same skillsets and i fail to see the reason as to why you keep on ignoring that point.

Care to tell me the skillsets of the 3 players?

You honestly think your posts make sense?

If I didn't I wouldn't be posting.

you spam you way and i've yet to see you post an actual knowledgeable opinion on NBA talk. Seriously, you state your opinions but you cant even elaborate adequately for your argument to be at least worth respecting.

What the fuck are you talking about? I barely post, and almost never in NBA Talk. As you said, my knowledge is limited for now.

who the fuck do you think I am? Certianly not the idiot insulting people because they dont like the way others post. yet fail to see the garbage he spews up in the forums.

Now you're just being a bitch because I called you a retard a couple months ago. Talk about being sensitive. Besides, you're also insulting me because you don't like the way I post, idiot.

I thought Drex was like 20 years old

Meh, I'm just 17 (so yes, I reached puberty a long time ago)


I'm kinda done here, it was all good until Laker Socks got all sensitive and started throwing insults.

Was that supposed to be a comeback?

I rest my case. You're not worth it. Your opinions are not even intelligent ones.

A little bit of advice, stop being such a spastic and lay off the spamming. And please, discuss things you ACTUALLY know something about. NBA talk is obviously not one of them.

Im done discussing with you. You're not worth the time and the effort. I'll let you have the last post. Post whatever lame-ass comeback you can come up with, i wont bother reading it anyway. Spastic.

Calm down girls.

For Laker fans who dont have NBA TV:
According to their ad on the spl website, hooptv.net will be webcasting the Lakers SPL games live.
Check out http://summerproleague.com and click on the hooptv icon for more details.

I think you guys have to pay though.

Anyway, more laker news!

Acording to numerous laker boards, David Vassey reported on AM570 on the Loose Cannons that Mitch Kupchak hinted today that "He already has a deal in place with a veteran PG".

Also, Lakers are apparently interested in Shammond Williams and may sign him for the BAE.

And lastly, Jeannie said on the Dave Smith show that Jordan Farmar most likely will be playing in the NBDL this season.

Imagine this: Kobe goes down with a career-ending injury and the Lakers lose their only role player right before the season starts. Would you cry?

Here's the reality: Kobe has altered his game to prevent that. The guy has world-class trainers.

His game is perimeter oriented. Now, imagine this: How can a perimeter oriented player suffer a career ending injury?

I sure hope you dont consider landing on someone's foot career ending.

Acording to numerous laker boards, David Vassey reported on AM570 on the Loose Cannons that Mitch Kupchak hinted today that "He already has a deal in place with a veteran PG".

Also, Lakers are apparently interested in Shammond Williams and may sign him for the BAE.

Ugh, Shammond Williams? Surely there are better guys out there. Looking at some of these summer league results, John Lucas might've been a good pick-up as an undrafted FA.

Just wondering how Laker fans feel about Jordan Farmar?

Ugh, Shammond Williams? Surely there are better guys out there. Looking at some of these summer league results, John Lucas might've been a good pick-up as an undrafted FA.

And the worse part is he's reportedly gonna get the BAE.

Seriously.

How do i feel about Farmar?

I have doubts if he could be a good fit in the tri. His shooting percentages were not good in college BUT i am also very aware of UCLA's milk the clock system.

I guess i have to wait for at least the SPL to know what to expect from Farmar.

Summer league time... Farmar had 17/3 on 5/9 shooting, and Pinnock ended up with 16 on 6/9. At the very least Pinnock has to be better than Von Wafer.