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Postby kingtrobe807 on Tue May 09, 2006 1:17 pm

Lakers look for more improvement next season


EL SEGUNDO, Calif. (AP) - The Phil & Kobe reunion worked out well, with no apparent glitches. And outside of an ugly finish, so did the Los Angeles Lakers' season.

As for the future, Lakers fans probably shouldn't expect much roster shuffling or a championship contender very soon. The hope is, a title shot isn't too far away.

"We were all about getting to the playoffs and make some noise in the playoffs. We met our goal," coach Phil Jackson said Monday during a break from conducting exit interviews with his players.

The Lakers went 45-37 for an 11-game improvement over the previous season, and took a 3-1 lead over the Phoenix Suns before losing the last three games to be eliminated in the first round of the playoffs.

"We're pleased. We maintained from day one that was achievable," general manager Mitch Kupchak said of a return to the postseason.

But Game 7 was ugly from start to finish - a 121-90 victory by the Suns.

"They're holding themselves responsible," Jackson said of his players. "I have to make them let go of that. The first four games were pretty good."

And the last three weren't.

"We think our future is very bright," Kupchak said. "The good news, really, is this team is together. You cannot predict a major change.

"This is not a stellar year where you're going to see eight to 10 stellar free agents available. We're in the exact same boat as 25 or 26 other teams are in. We have a big window two years from now."

That that might be when something big happens in free agency that makes the Lakers viable championship contenders.

"I wouldn't discount it a year or two down the road. I'm not prepared to say that, although I think that's a possibility," Kupchak said of returning to elite status.

Added Jackson: "Usually you have to go two or three rounds of the playoffs before you can compete for a championship. "We have some core ingredients that are pretty good."

The Lakers have three legitimate big men in Chris Mihm, Kwame Brown and Andrew Bynum. Bryant is a superstar and Lamar Odom is an All-Star caliber player.

The biggest question mark is in the backcourt. Bryant's 35.4-point average was the NBA's best in 19 years, but the youth and inexperience of starter Smush Parker and top reserve Sasha Vujacic hurt the Lakers against the Suns.

"The question is, are we good enough at that position? Are we experienced enough? Both of them made strides this season," Jackson said. "We don't believe we have to have a superstar come in for us to advance (in the playoffs). We know we have enough physical talent, we have enough size, we have enough expertise to compete."

Kupchak said he didn't anticipate a major trade this offseason, but did acknowledge a possible need for an upgrade in the backcourt.

The Lakers, well over the salary cap, have only three unrestricted free agents on their roster - veterans Devean George and Jimmy Jackson and rookie Devin Green. George was a key reserve on this team.

"He's probably the one challenge we have during the offseason," Kupchak said. "Basically, the core of this team is intact."

George said he was going to explore free agency.

"I just let them know that I enjoyed being here and I'm open to coming back," he said.

Jackson, who coached the Lakers to three championships in five years, returned this season after a year off. He wrote a book slamming Bryant while he was gone, so there was intrigue upon his return. When training camp started, all eyes were in the record-setting coach and his star player. But no problems surfaced.

"We worked together really well this season," Jackson said. "It was remarkable, from Hawaii on. I think at first, it was like, 'How's this going to work?' He really took to the offense, where he was going to play in it. It was a remarkable year for him."

Jackson said Bryant did an especially good job with leadership.

"Kobe was a lot more personable for us this year, was great as a leader," teammate Brian Cook said. "A lot of people did a lot of growing up. Everybody got along from the standpoint of off the court - just a great group of guys."

Bryant said he believes the Lakers grew up.

"When you go through a season like we went through and a playoff series like we went through, those are big steps in our development process," he said. "When we come back next season, you'll see a team that executes better, understands better, is better in pressure situations, is just mature."Lakers look for more improvement next season




Hopefully we will see some new faces in LA....
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Postby BIG GREEN on Tue May 09, 2006 2:18 pm

They need to trade a fuck load of those useless lamers on the lakers for atleast one good player. Someone like chris webber or....gasp* ..garnett? :)
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Postby Fenix on Tue May 09, 2006 4:04 pm

Yeah, they can't wait to get Webber :roll:. Odom for CW4 straight up!
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Postby dada on Wed May 10, 2006 12:39 am

I wouldnt want Webber in LA. I like the youth they have and, even though he isnt that old, bringing in old tired legs wouldnt help.
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Postby Mayerhendrix on Wed May 10, 2006 5:40 am

The Lakers have too many plans and no way to get them.

They were talking about Chris Bosh, that's not working. They said they were interested in Garnett, that's bound to fail.

Trade some average players for a draft pick or two and then try to land a fresh college talent.
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Postby dada on Wed May 10, 2006 8:10 am

NJNetsFan wrote:The Lakers have too many plans and no way to get them.

They were talking about Chris Bosh, that's not working. They said they were interested in Garnett, that's bound to fail.

Trade some average players for a draft pick or two and then try to land a fresh college talent.


If they went the draft pick route (rebuilding) it would be a complete waste of Kobe Bryant's talent. I wouldnt be surprised if Kobe was traded to a contender in that event.
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Postby [Q] on Wed May 10, 2006 3:32 pm

I think the key is re-signing Smush parker... he gives them a decent PG. Remember when Aaron McKie was supposed to be their big starting PG??

oh and I don't know if it's been posted yet, but "You probably remember how Lakers guard Kobe Bryant, in response to Phoenix guard Raja Bell having thrown him to the floor during their playoff game last Tuesday night, quipped that Bell probably wasnt hugged enough as a child.
After Game 7 of the series, when the Suns humbled the Bryant-led Lakers 121-90, I was told Bryant, as he dejectedly walked from the locker room to a post-game media conference, was approached by a woman who said, You look like someone who could use a hug.
The woman? Bell's mother." :lol: :lol:
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Postby Laker Socks on Thu May 11, 2006 7:34 am

Really? They'll do something with Bynum. He doesn't fit in this team's plans at all. He's a longterm project and his ceiling is Brendan Haywood. C'mon, trade him before he gets the 'bust' label written all over him. They can keep Mihm, if they can get him for cheap, but only as a Kwame's backup. Trade Devean George.

Andrew Bynum was the piece that could've landed us Ron Artest. Indiania wanted only 1 player + fillers, that was Andrew Bynum.

I dont know how many laker games you've watched this season but Andrew Bynum has shown that he has more heart and passion than Brendan Haywood, not to mention he has a longer wingspan and a higher vertical. Brendan Haywood never lead the league in blocks per 48 mins at one point in his career. Andrew Bynum did early in the season.

I dont really think he's gonna be labeled a bust because he can already defend and is already the lakers best post defender when given minutes. The talent to be a good offensive player is already there as shown by his performance against Eddy Curry. Channing Frye and co back in the regular season. Of course how could we all forget the way he went right back at Shaq after Shaq gave one of the nastiest facials i've seen in a long time.

Get an athletic, defensive minded swingman to come of the bench when needed

And to think we traded one for another second round pick. Good job Mitch. (N)

I think the key is re-signing Smush parker... he gives them a decent PG

He was signed to a 2 year contract. :lol:
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Postby Jackal on Thu May 11, 2006 8:49 am

Bynum shouldn't go anywhere, not for a long long while.
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Postby Laker Socks on Thu May 11, 2006 9:01 am

Here's another thing worth nothing:

Ronny Turiaf is an elbow jumper away from becoming a perfect fit for the tri. I hope he works on it this summer. Im confident as hell he'll lose the fat he gained because he's gonna work out with Kobe this summer. I mean, look at Bynum's body now. (Y)
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Postby BOSS on Thu May 11, 2006 9:01 am

Jackal wrote:Bynum shouldn't go anywhere, not for a long long while.


I agree with you.
I just want this kid to get some playing time and I wanna see how well he might develop next season.
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Postby Isaiah on Thu May 11, 2006 10:57 am

with Ronny Turiaf and Andrew Bynum's development, is there still space for Chris Mihm on the roster? or do you think he'll be traded this summer in exchange for a veteran (not that Mihm isn't one)
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Postby Laker Socks on Thu May 11, 2006 11:05 am

Chris Mihm is the most tradeable player that the lakers are actually willing to trade. Teams would love to have him considering his cheap salary.
Mitch wasted our precious expiring contracts. (N)
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Postby dada on Thu May 11, 2006 11:07 am

Qballer wrote:I think the key is re-signing Smush parker... he gives them a decent PG. Remember when Aaron McKie was supposed to be their big starting PG??


I think thats one of the biggest problems the Lakers have. Seriously, we are discussing Smush Parker or Aaron McKie as their starting pg? I love Smush..........as a backup. I wont lie, the kid has great heart but he really has no place starting. He cant hit a consistent three, he doesnt get assists and barely can create his own shot. The one good thing is he has decent size for defense. Again, I love Smush but only as a backup. He has to work on alotta things this offseason to keep his spot.
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Postby Isaiah on Thu May 11, 2006 11:11 am

Sasha wasnt used enough during the latter games of the series. He has a great outside shot and can play a bit of defense. If the Lakers do get a veteran guard, do you think he will drop out of the rotation?
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Postby dada on Thu May 11, 2006 11:28 am

Isaiah wrote:Sasha wasnt used enough during the latter games of the series. He has a great outside shot and can play a bit of defense. If the Lakers do get a veteran guard, do you think he will drop out of the rotation?


I dont believe so. I dont really see them getting any veteran pg who dominates minutes on the floor so it will be a shared position in the foreseeable future. Sasha plays a really nagging D on opposing pgs so he will always have a chance at playing with the talent on LAs roster..
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Postby Isaiah on Thu May 11, 2006 11:33 am

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Isaiah wrote:Sasha wasnt used enough during the latter games of the series. He has a great outside shot and can play a bit of defense. If the Lakers do get a veteran guard, do you think he will drop out of the rotation?


I dont believe so. I dont really see them getting any veteran pg who dominates minutes on the floor so it will be a shared position in the foreseeable future. Sasha plays a really nagging D on opposing pgs so he will always have a chance at playing with the talent on LAs roster..


I even remember a commentator saying that Sasha is really in Mike Bibby's head whenever he guards him.

EDIT: I wonder what's gonna happen to Devin Green and Von Wafer
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Postby Laker Socks on Thu May 11, 2006 12:05 pm

Woah woah something is wrong here. People are praising Smush and Sasha's D.

No no no, the main reason phoenix beat us is the inability of our point guards to defend. Sasha looks like he's playing defense, yes, but i cant even count the number of times i threw my remote everytime Sasha's man blows by him. Yes, he bends and he tries but that doesnt mean he's playing good d, he's one of the worst man defenders i've ever seen(And to think we had Sucky "matador" Atkins last season).

As for Smush, he gambles too much and seems to forget to bend his knees most of the time. He's a certified matador. To be fair, smush can create his own shot and has sick handles.

Smush and Sasha's inability to have a clue on how to defend the pick and roll lead to the laker downfall in the playoffs. It's always a problem when your center ends up defending the opposing team's pg.

Yes, Sasha is in Mike Bibby's head, that's because he looks annoying. But whenever the lakers play the kings, Mike Bibby is usually the leading scorer. Good defense huh? :|
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Postby YoG! on Thu May 11, 2006 8:25 pm

They should get a point guard like Damon Stoudemire. Lots of experiance,good outside shot and he can pass.
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Postby Jackal on Thu May 11, 2006 8:53 pm

And a price tag to scare all other price tags. He's got injury issues as well.
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Postby dada on Thu May 11, 2006 9:09 pm

Laker Socks wrote:Woah woah something is wrong here. People are praising Smush and Sasha's D.


You need to "Woah Woah"

If you read the post you would see that I wrote "he will always have a chance of playing with the talent on LAs roster." Current talent which isnt very talented. Yes I said he plays nagging D but thats not praising him. He does an ok job. The only good thing is that he pesters guys into commiting offensive fouls every now and then. He does get blowed by from time to time but hey, I can live with that for now. Smush has decent size so I suppose PGs cant really out muscle him or shoot right over him. They can however out-finesse him.
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Postby J@3 on Thu May 11, 2006 9:09 pm

Stoudamire's only making 3.7 million per season, peaks at 4.6 million in 2008.
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Postby Laker Socks on Thu May 11, 2006 10:03 pm

f you read the post you would see that I wrote "he will always have a chance of playing with the talent on LAs roster." Current talent which isnt very talented. Yes I said he plays nagging D but thats not praising him. He does an ok job. The only good thing is that he pesters guys into commiting offensive fouls every now and then. He does get blowed by from time to time but hey, I can live with that for now. Smush has decent size so I suppose PGs cant really out muscle him or shoot right over him. They can however out-finesse him.

Saying he plays nagging D and he does an ok job is in a way praising his "D".

They dont out-finesse him, they simply blow by him. The guy is a matador. Same with Smush, he has decent size but PG's blow by him everytime, he seems to forget the basic fundamental of bending his knees.

The lakers have no defense at PG. They have a matador who pretends to play defense(Sasha), and another matador who cant bend his knees to save his life(Smush).
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Postby dada on Thu May 11, 2006 11:25 pm

Laker Socks wrote:Saying he plays nagging D and he does an ok job is in a way praising his "D".


So if I told you that you did an "ok job" at cooking a meal or cleaning the yard you would take that as praise? :?

Oh well, to each his own.

By out-finesse I meant putting on a move or two and getting around him (Smush that it). The alternative way would be a Lebron approach where you just muscle your way to the basket.
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Postby Kbryant8 on Fri May 12, 2006 3:03 am

Hmm,maybe D.Miles to La?
Anyways,Lakers should get themselves a good C first.
C -- , Kobe,Smush is good enough i think.
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