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Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:03 pm
koberulz wrote:Doobie wrote:Highest FG% for someone scoring 40 or more points in a game? Amar'e shot 17-21 which is almost 81%. Is that anywhere near the record?
No.
The most surprising info i've gotten from this thread is #8 on that list. He actually scored 40+ points? I mean i just can't fathom seeing him score 40 in a game.
Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:14 pm
Who has come close, or who came closest to averaging a triple double in a season in recent times(when there was shot clock and all the standard rules we have now). I know Oscar Roberston did, but i don't think it's humanly possible for any player to do so (except they come out to play with that sole purpose) in a season and idk why these analysts are saying maybe LeBron will. I think he's the only one that can come close but he didn't do it with the cavs which would have been the most realistic time to, but not when he has to share ball handling with Wade.
Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:48 pm
These would be amongst the closest:
Michael Jordan (1989): 32.5 ppg, 8 rpg, 8 apg
Magic Johnson (1982): 18.6 ppg, 9.6 rpg, 9.5 apg
Jason Kidd (2007): 13 ppg, 8.2 rpg, 9.2 apg
LeBron James (2010): 29.7 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 8.6 rpg
Larry Bird (1990): 24.3 ppg, 9.5 rpg, 7.5 apg
Unless there's someone else I've forgotten, I'm guessing Magic's 1982 season is the closest apart from the season Robertson did it and the other seasons where he was close.
Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:31 pm
Also to note that Magic gets above 8.5 rpg and 8.5 apg three years in a row 1981-1983.
Since Oscar last got above those marks (1965), Wilt also did it in 1968 with 24/24/8.5 but like Oscar's that's in a different pace/playing time era. (Only three players post-Oscar have ever topped 8pts 8rebs 8asts per 36 minutes, Magic, Kidd and see below.)
And...
Andrew wrote:Unless there's someone else I've forgotten
Darrell Walker, 1989-90.
There's been extended playoff runs where players have come close as well. With Kidd actually doing it in 2007.
Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:36 am
Wow Rondo came incredibly close.
imefimef wrote:Who has come close, or who came closest to averaging a triple double in a season in recent times(when there was shot clock and all the standard rules we have now). I know Oscar Roberston did, but i don't think it's humanly possible for any player to do so (except they come out to play with that sole purpose) in a season and idk why these analysts are saying maybe LeBron will. I think he's the only one that can come close but he didn't do it with the cavs which would have been the most realistic time to, but not when he has to share ball handling with Wade.
His assists numbers are actually above average this season, probably because he has more outlets to pass to. Wade, on the other hand, is doing less ball-handling than LeBron, hence his assists dropped. I think if LeBron tried, he could definitely average a triple double for a season, because he could easily get ten assists a game, and each of the big 3 averages around 7.5 rpg. If LeBron took a couple of Bosh or Wade's rebounds it could happen
Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:16 am
Okay some questions:
1. Has there ever been a third generation player? (Meaning that both the player's grandfather and father played in the NBA.)
2. If I'm running the break, and get fouled in the act of shooting, and make both free throws, do they count as fast break points? Same case as in an offensive rebound, if I get fouled and convert both or one free throw(s), do they count as second chance points?
3. If I pass to someone, and the pass gets deflected but the initial recipient gets the ball back and scores, does that count as an assist for me?
4. Where can I find statistics that measure what percentage of a player's block attempts are goaltends?
Some of these questions may have been asked before, so please excuse my laziness to search for them.
Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:03 pm
imefimef wrote:koberulz wrote:Doobie wrote:Highest FG% for someone scoring 40 or more points in a game? Amar'e shot 17-21 which is almost 81%. Is that anywhere near the record?
No.
The most surprising info i've gotten from this thread is #8 on that list. He actually scored 40+ points? I mean i just can't fathom seeing him score 40 in a game.
Is that the game where he got the ball for a last second 3 to either win or tie the game

? I remember him doing it for one game but I can't remember when it happened.
Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:02 pm
How does plus/minus really work?
Dewek Fishaa is on +23 and he has like 6 points and 0 assists.
Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:52 pm
Sit wrote:How does plus/minus really work?
Dewek Fishaa is on +23 and he has like 6 points and 0 assists.
+/- denotes team's net points while the player is on the court.
Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:53 pm
Martti. wrote:Sit wrote:How does plus/minus really work?
Dewek Fishaa is on +23 and he has like 6 points and 0 assists.
+/- denotes team's net points while the player is on the court.
Therefore, Dewek is awesome
Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:27 pm
Or in the right place at the right time.
Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:02 am
Or surrounded by 4 good players that hide his suckiness.
Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:44 am
z02 wrote: Wade, on the other hand, is doing less ball-handling than LeBron, hence his assists dropped. I think if LeBron tried, he could definitely average a triple double for a season, because he could easily get ten assists a game, and each of the big 3 averages around 7.5 rpg. If LeBron took a couple of Bosh or Wade's rebounds it could happen
Yeah, you're right about the assists that is very possible but then he'd have to get a couple of those rebounds for 82 games tho, that's why i think it will be difficult but i guess possible. I can see Rondo coming close too but i don't think he'll get 10 rebs for 82 games with all the rebounders on the Celts.
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Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:07 am
Anybody wanna take a jab at one of my questions above? Anyone? Not all at once.
Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:46 pm
shadowgrin wrote:Or surrounded by 4 good players that hide his suckiness.
Wouldn't that count as being in the right place at the right time?

Axel. wrote:Anybody wanna take a jab at one of my questions above? Anyone? Not all at once.
I don't think there's been any third generation NBA players as yet. If so, they haven't been particularly noteworthy aside from that fact.
Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:57 pm
When do the clock stopped after the basket?
Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:39 pm
Axel. wrote:Okay some questions:
1. Has there ever been a third generation player? (Meaning that both the player's grandfather and father played in the NBA.)
2. If I'm running the break, and get fouled in the act of shooting, and make both free throws, do they count as fast break points? Same case as in an offensive rebound, if I get fouled and convert both or one free throw(s), do they count as second chance points?
3. If I pass to someone, and the pass gets deflected but the initial recipient gets the ball back and scores, does that count as an assist for me?
4. Where can I find statistics that measure what percentage of a player's block attempts are goaltends?
Some of these questions may have been asked before, so please excuse my laziness to search for them.
I'll take a shot:
1. Other than a Father son tandem, or an uncle/nephew playing. I have never even hear of even a grandfather/grandson pair playing in the nba.
here is a list of father and son tandems:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_se ... on_playersmaybe this guy you should watch out for:
http://www.thisweeknews.com/live/conten ... point.htmlIt intrigues me though if it is possible that a father/son tandem can play in the nba at the same time since players on other sports enjoy more longevity as in the case of Ken Griffey Jr/Sr playing together. Dwayne Wade comes to mind, he had a child early, and maybe he can stick around long enough to play as a father/son tandem with his son.
2. No this is not a fastbreak if you did not make the basket, since the fastbreak play was broken by the foul. If the ball fell through in th attempt, then it would be a fastbreak.
3. No, this is not counted as an assist, because possession of the ball was in contention when it was slapped away. Though this could easily be wrongfully or liberally recorded by a statistician as a completed assist.
4. Maybe you can ask this website:
http://www.82games.com/random7.htmI think it is a good stat to know as well. Basketball-reference.com does not seem to contain this information.
Sat Feb 26, 2011 12:12 am
jenroe962002 wrote:When do the clock stopped after the basket?
When the ball passes through the bottom of the net.
Sat Feb 26, 2011 12:46 am
When the ball passes through the bottom of the net.
Sat Feb 26, 2011 12:57 am
I don't get the joke.
Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:01 am
I don't get the joke.
I believe everyone knows the time stops when the ball passes the net.
Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:04 am
Clearly not, otherwise the question wouldn't be asked. Not everyone is aware of the particulars of each and every rule, which is one of the reasons we have this thread.
Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:53 am
Well in this case logic will get you the answer. When would the time be stopped if not when the ball goes through the net.
Sat Feb 26, 2011 6:27 am
I find it ridiculous that of all the people here in the NLSC, mandich is the one talking about logic.
Andrew wrote:shadowgrin wrote:Or surrounded by 4 good players that hide his suckiness.
Wouldn't that count as being in the right place at the right time?

I prefer my Laker-hating version better.
I have nothing against Fish as a player, only as a Laker.
Sat Feb 26, 2011 7:23 am
Thanks a lot for your answers, Bruce.
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