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Postby Sauru on Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:13 pm

this is easily the most exciting draft for me right now with all the rumors about the celtics and what they will do with the first pick. i am even reading rumors of the lakers trading down which i personally just do not see happening. is it possible that this draft class was overhyped or maybe its a matter or the top 4-5 players all being very close? what trades if any do you think will happen? anything before the draft or will we have to wait until the night of? we have seen drafts in the past with endless rumors leading up to the draft only to have nothing happen at all. for some reason this does not feel like one of those years though, at least for the celtics. i am pretty sure the lakers are staying at 2
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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby Jackal on Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:26 am

I just hope whoever the Lakers pick turns out to be a good player. Josh Jackson reports worry me he'll be a MKG type player so I'm least enthusiastic about him.

Fultz & Ball I don't think you can go wrong with. It would be funny to see Lavar lose his shit if Ball wasn't drafted to the Lakers...but the whole flashy passes and involving team-mates really sounds like a good fit to me. I just don't know what the defense in that back court would look like with Russell & Ball. What type of player do you guys think these guys become?

Fultz/Ball/Jackson/Fox? Any comparisons if you've watched/read/studied YouTube videos of them?
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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby air gordon on Sun Jun 18, 2017 3:00 am

Fox has the makings of a Russell Westbrook. There I said it. Him completely outplaying ball in the big tourney was just nasty
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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby NovU on Sun Jun 18, 2017 3:53 am

Anyone else not entirely sold on Fultz? He is slightly above athletic. Has shown no interests in d. He has pretty bad handling if was to play PG while no physical freak for a SG. Is he generational star like he is advertised in ways this draft class is quite strong? Any opinion?
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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby Jackal on Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:11 am

Don't think so, if he was "generational" would the Celtics be looking to draft down? We'll know in a few years.
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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby Sauru on Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:20 am

NovU wrote:Anyone else not entirely sold on Fultz?



danny ainge it seems
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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby shadowgrin on Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:42 am

Best case scenario I've seen so far for Ball is he'll be like Jason Kidd.

Rumors of Bulls trying to make it a threesome with the Celtics-Sixers, involves giving up Jimmy Buckets.
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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby Andrew on Sun Jun 18, 2017 12:08 pm

So much for GarPax not having any plans to trade Butler.
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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby zzcoolj21 on Sun Jun 18, 2017 12:28 pm

If Butler's out, what are the chances Wade stays?
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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby Stress Fracture on Sun Jun 18, 2017 12:50 pm

Rumors out there says Philly's gonna trade up the draft, #3 plus next year's unprotected Lakers pick for Boston's #1 to get Fultz.
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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby Andrew on Sun Jun 18, 2017 12:54 pm

zzcoolj21 wrote:If Butler's out, what are the chances Wade stays?


I suppose they lessen, but he'd be leaving a lot of money on the table.

Doesn't look like it's going to happen, though. Seems the trade with the 76ers is all but a done deal.
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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby Sauru on Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:39 pm

has lavar tweeted yet that this proves his boy is better than fultz because the celtics didnt even want him?
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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby NovU on Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:56 am

Wasn't it because Ball only allowed a work out with the Lakers? This gives the Lakers much better leverage in how draft/trade shit plays out. Other teams like Celtics and 76ers would be drafting him with no work out evaluation neither the guarantee in his willingness to play for them.
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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby Sauru on Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:06 am

it seems like the celtics dont even want him and have their eyes on 2 other players. however in the very unlikely event that the lakers pass on ball i am sure the phone will ring off the hook from teams trying to offer the celtics something for him. this trade has to make the ball family happy as now they 100% know lonzo will be in LA
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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby zzcoolj21 on Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:20 am

Chances PG gets traded before the summer league? Maybe even before the draft?
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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby Sauru on Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:57 am

zzcoolj21 wrote:Chances PG gets traded before the summer league? Maybe even before the draft?


well he drastically killed his value which is probably all part of the plan. any team willing to rent him for a year before he joins the lakers will want him for a full season including training camp so i would imagine the chances are pretty good. i dont see the lakers offering much though unless they fear the possibility he reups with a competitive team.


edit: so once the cavs trade for him we can maybe see the cavs as champs again. then next season the warriors will add anthony davis and come back to reclaim the title for the cavs. this can be a yearly thing. the losing team adds a major player to reclaim the championship
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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby zzcoolj21 on Mon Jun 19, 2017 10:36 am

The only thing stopping it is when all 3 Ball brothers are on the Lakers so they can transform into Megazord.

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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby Brave Sir Rubin on Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:48 pm

Great trade by the Celts. Easy move with such a deep talent pool early on. Giving the 1st up for the 3rd and a future top 10 pic is a a no brainer.
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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby air gordon on Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:13 am

Automatically became a fultz fan with this trade

I think this was a great trade for Philly. Fultz skillet is a better fit than whichever projected available player @3.

Wasnt a prokorov special for the celts but still a good return. I suppose c fans will continue to worship ainge haha


Wade should leave if Butler gets traded. He deserves better than being part of a rebuild
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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby zzcoolj21 on Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:17 am

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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby Sauru on Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:31 am

air gordon wrote:Wasnt a prokorov special for the celts but still a good return. I suppose c fans will continue to worship ainge haha


this will all depend on how it pans out. if fultz turns into a hall of fame player this can be the ultimate what if situation. however as of now i like the trade. i think we come out a head as i dont see the gap between 1-3 to be that big. really this is a trade where we wont know the winner right away.



this butler thing could be used to get the pacers to lower their price. clearly the cavs would like to some how keep the big 3 together while adding a 4th.
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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby Andrew on Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:55 am

Damn it, GarPax.
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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby shadowgrin on Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:02 am

Sauru wrote:this butler thing could be used to get the pacers to lower their price. clearly the cavs would like to some how keep the big 3 together while adding a 4th.

Looks like this Butler thing was/is that serious to make Cavs fire their GM David Griffin just recently.
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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby Sauru on Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:25 am

this seems crazy to me. i wonder if this means the butler talks are done now.
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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby zzcoolj21 on Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:28 am

Goodbye Griffin. #1 in the lottery, #1 in your heart.
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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby NovU on Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:31 pm

This shit is real. Ainge has been eavesdropping our forum and made a big ass move to convey a pick for picks.

Not sure about Fultz but there's so much hype on that kid, shouldn't have been easy moving down to the 3rd pick.

I wonder if he's not done yet. Celts are in such a good position to become a strong contender with aging LeBron. Perhaps not 2018 but from 2019, who knows what shit could happen. I don't know some Celts fans were ranting about rebuilding when they're so close to being good. It's always easier to become great from mediocrity than nothing.
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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby air gordon on Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:37 pm

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air gordon wrote:Wasnt a prokorov special for the celts but still a good return. I suppose c fans will continue to worship ainge haha


this will all depend on how it pans out. if fultz turns into a hall of fame player this can be the ultimate what if situation. however as of now i like the trade. i think we come out a head as i dont see the gap between 1-3 to be that big. really this is a trade where we wont know the winner right away.

Ha you wouldn't be caught dead saying that if ainge stuck with #1

U also have to compare the career of whoever gets picked at @2 as ainge traded 2 spots down
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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby Sauru on Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:59 pm

well i am sure ball is going second and there was no situation where the celtics would have drafted ball. i believe if by some miracle the lakers pass on ball the celtics will let him slide to number 4. really the only person i feel will leave a what if scenario is fultz. it seems like the celtics were considering not even drafting fultz which if true means they will get the player they wanted to draft plus a top 5 pick which has to be considered a win no matter how things pan out
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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby [Q] on Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:27 am

That explains the guarantee that Jackson got before he even worked out for the Celtics. The one scenario we didn't think of was that the Celtics would trade down.
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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby air gordon on Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:48 am

Sauru wrote:well i am sure ball is going second and there was no situation where the celtics would have drafted ball. i believe if by some miracle the lakers pass on ball the celtics will let him slide to number 4. really the only person i feel will leave a what if scenario is fultz. it seems like the celtics were considering not even drafting fultz which if true means they will get the player they wanted to draft plus a top 5 pick which has to be considered a win no matter how things pan out

Why would ball not even be considered.. by you or speculation ainge wouldn't? You just mentioned picks 1-3 are close in talent
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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby [Q] on Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:49 am

Would be crazy if they flipped those picks for Butler or George
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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby Jackal on Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:53 am

If PG13 is really serious about being a one year rental then it would be hilarious if he went to Boston for the picks...then left.
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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby Sauru on Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:59 am

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Sauru wrote:well i am sure ball is going second and there was no situation where the celtics would have drafted ball. i believe if by some miracle the lakers pass on ball the celtics will let him slide to number 4. really the only person i feel will leave a what if scenario is fultz. it seems like the celtics were considering not even drafting fultz which if true means they will get the player they wanted to draft plus a top 5 pick which has to be considered a win no matter how things pan out

Why would ball not even be considered.. by you or speculation ainge wouldn't? You just mentioned picks 1-3 are close in talent


i dont think they want him at all. if some how he fell to 3rd i would not be shocked to see that the celtics made a trade with someone who does want him. i think they want either tatum or jackson and know that no matter what 1 of those guys will be there at 3 so why not trade down, get a guy you want plus an additional pick

i just dont see any situation where they pick ball after ball said he wont even work out for them
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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby air gordon on Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:30 am

Ok fair enough. Do you still maintain your excitement now that Boston holds the #3 pick?
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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby shadowgrin on Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:37 am

As talked about in the Lakers thread, looks like the team is going all in for Lonzo.

Lakers are big ballers confirmed.
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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby Sauru on Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:08 am

air gordon wrote:Ok fair enough. Do you still maintain your excitement now that Boston holds the #3 pick?



i like the trade for the celtics. i honestly think this is one of those rare trades where both teams win
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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby [Q] on Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:59 am

All kinds of trade rumors before the draft. Even Lamarcus aldridge wants to be traded, which is funny because he wanted to be gone from Portland so bad because he was jealous of lillard. Now he deserves everything he gets
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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby shadowgrin on Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:53 am

7 mins. to go for the draft. I'll keep refreshing Woj's Twitter page for bombs.
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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby shadowgrin on Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:14 am

Why would they even give Lavar Ball that attention just before the draft smh NBA.
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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby Jackal on Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:28 am

Man, I really hope Lonzo Ball makes me forget about D-Lo. I'm gonna miss that kid. Hope he does well in Brooklyn.

Prediction out of my ass: Josh Jackson is gonna be this years MKG.
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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby shadowgrin on Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:46 am

Good for Fultz bringing something new to the stale gimmick of having something inside the jacket, Sixer future is bright.
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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby Sauru on Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:52 am

now that lonzo has been drafted can we stop with all the lavar interviews?
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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby Brave Sir Rubin on Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:54 am

Enjoy Minnesota, Jimmy Butler.
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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby Sauru on Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:55 am

big trade already. now lets hear porzingis is heading to boston
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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby shadowgrin on Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:55 am

Damn indeed.

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Chicago is finalizing a deal to send Jimmy Butler to Minnesota for Zach LaVine, Kris Dunn and No. 7 pick, league source says.



Boston looking to get Paul George. (Woj)
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Postby Jackal on Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:56 am

Paul George might be headed to Boston.

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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby Sauru on Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:09 am

i really am against the celtics trading for george. i am fine with it if we only give up a single bench player and no 1st round picks but that shit aint gonna happen
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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby shadowgrin on Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:12 am

Fox's inside jacket is for breast cancer awareness, hard to hate on that, but them ugly ass shoes though...
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Re: 2017 Draft

Postby zzcoolj21 on Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:53 am

Monk in Charlotte could be a lot of fun.
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