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Introducing... The New Orleans Pelicans?

Postby Qballer on Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:44 am

and (hopefully) the Charlotte Hornets.
The New Orleans Hornets are expected to become the Pelicans as early as the 2013-14 season, numerous sources told Yahoo! Sports.

A change of the nickname has been expected since Tom Benson purchased the team.

Benson owns the rights to the nickname Pelicans.
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Re: Introducing... The New Orleans Pelicans?

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Re: Introducing... The New Orleans Pelicans?

Postby benji on Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:56 am

Link: http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--n ... 27843.html

The Hornets also considered the nicknames Krewe (groups of costumed paraders in the annual Mardi Gras carnival in New Orleans) and Brass.

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Gayle Benson, Benson's wife, told Fox Sports New Orleans recently her preference for new team colors was navy blue, red and gold.
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Re: Introducing... The New Orleans Pelicans?

Postby Qballer on Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:04 am

benji wrote: her preference for new team colors was navy blue, red and gold.

i could definitely see gold being in there, especially with the Saints using gold and the possibility gold-colored musical instruments/gold-colored beak. whether they do black & gold like the Saints is a possibility. navy blue, red and gold remind me of the lebron-era cavs.
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Re: Introducing... The New Orleans Pelicans?

Postby rise on Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:11 pm

Hornets name probably coming back to Charlotte. I'm calling that right now.
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Re: Introducing... The New Orleans Pelicans?

Postby sevin0seven on Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:56 pm

rise wrote:Hornets name probably coming back to Charlotte. I'm calling that right now.


Michael Jordan said he would consider that option, so it's possible. I would love to have the original Charlotte Hornets back.
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Re: Introducing... The New Orleans Pelicans?

Postby Nick on Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:32 pm

THE MIGHTY PELICANS.

^ Try say that with a straight face.

Who comes up with these names? A 50 year old woman? A 5 year old boy? They should've gone with "New Orleans Brass". That would've been cool as fuck. But nope, they've gone with a big goofy bird that is known for swallowing large loads. It's cool to see Charlotte get Hornets back though.
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Re: Introducing... The New Orleans Pelicans?

Postby Qballer on Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:25 pm

i thought the brass was probably the best of the three, but it it might be too similar to Jazz.

who knows? they might be able to pull the pelicans off... honestly it couldn't be much worse than the THunder
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Re: Introducing... The New Orleans Pelicans?

Postby benji on Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:05 pm

Those Brass images that were floating around were taken from an old minor league hockey team that the Hornets forced out of New Orleans Arena.

IIRC, somebody used the logos in the dotorg Sim League since we allowed moving and renaming teams.
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Re: Introducing... The New Orleans Pelicans?

Postby Andrew on Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:26 pm

Well, at least Charlotte can possibly get the Hornets name back. A shame Utah couldn't come up with something new and take part in a three team nickname trade with Charlotte and New Orleans.

With that change, I'd suggest that they'll easily have the worst name in the league. In all fairness there's a decent amount of surprise at the name change at the moment and in time most people will probably get used to it, much like the other team names that aren't considered to be that great. However, it doesn't seem like a good fit for an NBA team.
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Re: Introducing... The New Orleans Pelicans?

Postby benji on Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:47 pm

I believe the Millers want to the keep the Jazz name because they consider it an institution and core to the franchise identity at this point. That when you mention Utah Jazz after three decades you don't think "weird name" you think Stockton and Malone, lots of wins and two NBA Finals trips against Jordan.
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Re: Introducing... The New Orleans Pelicans?

Postby Brawn Shadley on Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:43 pm

benji wrote:That when you mention Utah Jazz after three decades you don't think "weird name" you think Stockton and Malone, lots of wins and two NBA Finals trips against Jordan.

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Re: Introducing... The New Orleans Pelicans?

Postby yosifun on Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:15 pm

As long as Charlotte gets the Hornets nickname and color scheme it's all find with me, plus this is how it should have been done in the first place with Charlotte keeping their name and New Orleans getting a brand new franchise.

BTW, am I the only guy who still wants Seattle to get the Sonics franchise again? would be a good opportunity if one of the less attractive teams goes into financial difficulties (except the Kings who I actually like).
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Re: Introducing... The New Orleans Pelicans?

Postby Jeffx on Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:08 am

Andrew wrote:.....they'll easily have the worst name in the league.



You got that right. What a horrible name for an NBA team.
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Re: Introducing... The New Orleans Pelicans?

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Re: Introducing... The New Orleans Pelicans?

Postby Andrew on Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:46 am

yosifun wrote:BTW, am I the only guy who still wants Seattle to get the Sonics franchise again? would be a good opportunity if one of the less attractive teams goes into financial difficulties (except the Kings who I actually like).


I'd like to see it happen and the fans deserve to see it happen, though I'd be a little disappointed to see it happen at the expense of another team, whose lineage would end the way the Sonics did.
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Re: Introducing... The New Orleans Pelicans?

Postby rise on Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:33 pm

I don't mind the Pelicans name at all. Hell, it's a lot better than naming a franchise after your owner's first name and then sticking "cats" at the end.
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Re: Introducing... The New Orleans Pelicans?

Postby Qballer on Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:54 pm

frenchy wrote:http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-ash3/c0.11.180.180/s160x160/538604_434639413217199_316779715_a.jpg

cool mockup. could use a better pelican though.
benji wrote:Those Brass images that were floating around were taken from an old minor league hockey team that the Hornets forced out of New Orleans Arena.

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that couldve worked but wouldve been unoriginal and a blatant rip-off of that hockey team

when they mentioned brass, i was picturing more like the all-star logo
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Re: Introducing... The New Orleans Pelicans?

Postby Andrew on Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:12 pm

rise wrote:I don't mind the Pelicans name at all. Hell, it's a lot better than naming a franchise after your owner's first name and then sticking "cats" at the end.


To be fair, a bobcat is at least a real animal, albeit not as imposing or impressive as other members of the cat family (or other animals that NBA teams take their names from). Of course, the fact that it allowed Robert Johnson to slip his name in there does make it a little cheesy.
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Re: Introducing... The New Orleans Pelicans?

Postby George7 on Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:19 am

Damn,that's a bad name... I only like the fact that Charlotte has the chance to claim the "Hornets" name again,and that's a great thing.
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Re: Introducing... The New Orleans Pelicans?

Postby rise on Fri Dec 07, 2012 2:29 pm

Andrew wrote:
rise wrote:I don't mind the Pelicans name at all. Hell, it's a lot better than naming a franchise after your owner's first name and then sticking "cats" at the end.


To be fair, a bobcat is at least a real animal, albeit not as imposing or impressive as other members of the cat family (or other animals that NBA teams take their names from). Of course, the fact that it allowed Robert Johnson to slip his name in there does make it a little cheesy.

The Pelican is the state bird of Lousiana. I've lived in Charlotte for almost 17 years now. There aren't many bobcats near Charlotte.
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Re: Introducing... The New Orleans Pelicans?

Postby Brawn Shadley on Fri Dec 07, 2012 2:58 pm

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Re: Introducing... The New Orleans Pelicans?

Postby benji on Fri Dec 07, 2012 3:33 pm

rise wrote:I've lived in Charlotte for almost 17 years now. There aren't many bobcats near Charlotte.

Probably because they prefer mountains not large urban centers.

You'd probably see more living in Boone or Cherokee. Hell, probably even Asheville
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Re: Introducing... The New Orleans Pelicans?

Postby Andrew on Fri Dec 07, 2012 10:01 pm

rise wrote:The Pelican is the state bird of Lousiana. I've lived in Charlotte for almost 17 years now. There aren't many bobcats near Charlotte.


Granted, though the point still stands that they are at least named after a real animal, albeit one that allowed the original owner to slip his name in there.

That article makes a fair point about pelicans and given their connection with Louisiana, it's certainly not inappropriate. Still, my first impressions is that it just doesn't strike me as a great name for an NBA team. The same does go for the Bobcats and Thunder, though I have grown used to those monikers. With that in mind I think we'll all probably get used to it. It's kind of hard to put a finger on what makes a name appropriate for an NBA team or not. I guess it comes down to ties to the city/state, mental image and "coolness"; a name that sounds good or impressive to say. However, it's hard to say why some names seem more appropriate for one particular sport and not another.

Taking a look at the other names around the league, I think that's something the animal based names strive for. Bulls, Grizzlies, Timberwolves, Bucks, Hornets, Bobcats, Hawks, Raptors...the first four are large animals, easily associated with power and/or ferocity. The Hornets name sounds cool, was appropriate to the Charlotte area and implies danger; a dangerous foe. Bobcats aren't exactly the most imposing member of the cat family, but it's still a predatory animal. Hawks are also predatory, have a pretty cool image and it's kind of a classic name for a sports team as far as bird-inspired nicknames are concerned, up there with "falcon" and "eagle". "Raptors" fits a ferocious image, or at least the one that's perpetuated by popular culture. It's probably safe to say it was a little more fashionable when dinosaurs were more in vogue in the 90s.

Warriors is another classic sort of name, evoking images of battle, power and conquest. Spurs and Mavericks are good western-themed nicknames that fit a common image of Texas. The Rockets' name fits Houston because of NASA's presence there, while also referring to something big and powerful. The Kings: royalty, dominance, ruling...it doesn't exactly describe the team's success, historically speaking, but it's a good image and another classic name for a sports team. "Nets" may be a little cliche, but it's certainly appropriate to basketball, probably the most marketable name if you're going to name a team after equipment of the sport. "Jazz" doesn't exactly fit Utah, but as mentioned before it's well-established at this point, with an obvious cool image. "Pistons" suits Detroit's image as the Motor City and can be associated with powerful engines.

The Knicks/Knickerbockers, Trail Blazers and 76ers names all have historical significance. The Celtics acknowledges Boston's Irish-American heritage and the nickname had already been established for basketball by the Original Celtics, the barnstorming team from New York. Nuggets and Cavaliers aren't necessarily great fits or the best names, but they've been around long enough to establish themselves as viable team names. The Pacers, Suns and Heat are appropriate names with connections to their respective cities, culturally or otherwise. Magic and Wizards are perhaps a little out there, but there's a whimsical nature to them and "Magic" fits with Disney World's Magic Kingdom.

"Thunder" gets a bad rap, which is fair enough for the most part as it's not the best name in the league, but naming teams after meteorological phenomena isn't unprecedented (names like Tornadoes and Hurricanes are usually more popular though). The booming sound of Thunder at least tries to convey a cool/powerful image and sort of ties in with their history as the Seattle Supersonics (the sonic booms of the supersonic jets the team once took its name from), in a loose and subtle manner.

Finally, the Lakers and Clippers names probably aren't that great when you think about it. "Lakers" actually sounds quite antiquated (and fair enough, seeing as the team was founded in the 40s) and hasn't suited their host city since they left Minneapolis. However, they've been around for so long and been so successful, you don't really think about it. I also think the meaning/reference behind the Clippers name has become somewhat obscure over the years, but it too has been around long enough that it's just kind of accepted.
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Re: Introducing... The New Orleans Pelicans?

Postby Qballer on Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:24 am

I think the Clipper is a type of ship which i guess would fit the San Diego area as a port city. wouldve been a better fit than the Braves
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Re: Introducing... The New Orleans Pelicans?

Postby rise on Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:05 am

The Thunder is a very fitting name for Oklahoma. It's in Tornado Alley and they get a lot of storms in that part of the country.
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Re: Introducing... The New Orleans Pelicans?

Postby Andrew on Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:19 am

Qballer wrote:I think the Clipper is a type of ship which i guess would fit the San Diego area as a port city. wouldve been a better fit than the Braves


It is and that's the reason the name was chosen after they moved from Buffalo and dropped the Braves name. I'm just wondering if the name/reference has become a little obscure over the years.
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Re: Introducing... The New Orleans Pelicans?

Postby Qballer on Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:09 pm

The Rougarou, Mosquitos, Swamp Dogs and Bullsharks are the other nicknames that have been filed for trademark.

lol mosquitoes... wait, mosquitoes is spelled with an "e" right?
New Orleans will likely adopt a red, blue and gold color scheme.

great, yet another team with red & blue
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Re: Introducing... The New Orleans Pelicans?

Postby Andrew on Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:41 am

I'd say Pelicans is probably a better choice than any of those. I also share your lack of enthusiasm for another team with a red and blue colour scheme.
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