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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby Andrew on Fri Feb 26, 2016 8:32 am

More details on the Week 12 roster update: https://www.easports.com/nba-live/news/ ... -update-12
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby Izzy Snow on Fri Feb 26, 2016 12:43 pm

Andrew wrote:More details on the Week 12 roster update: https://www.easports.com/nba-live/news/ ... -update-12


I can confirm that standing dunks still don't happen in LUT.
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby Andrew on Fri Feb 26, 2016 12:45 pm

I'm guessing that's related to something other than dunk packs, because they are working in other modes. Either that, or the roster updates aren't affecting LUT at all.
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby Izzy Snow on Fri Feb 26, 2016 12:52 pm

Andrew wrote:I'm guessing that's related to something other than dunk packs, because they are working in other modes. Either that, or the roster updates aren't affecting LUT at all.


I had a small hope that they would address this but I guess not. But at this point I'm not surprised it's still not fixed.
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby Andrew on Fri Feb 26, 2016 5:39 pm

If it can't be resolved in NBA Live 16, hopefully it's not an issue in NBA Live 17. As I mentioned in the Podcast, I'm wondering whether we need the separate Dunk/Layup and Shoot buttons again.
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby ThaLiveKing on Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:54 am

Andrew wrote:If it can't be resolved in NBA Live 16, hopefully it's not an issue in NBA Live 17. As I mentioned in the Podcast, I'm wondering whether we need the separate Dunk/Layup and Shoot buttons again.


I think they should. Their contextual system isn't realistic at time, especially the passing
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby Andrew on Sat Feb 27, 2016 8:36 am

If 2K can have three pass buttons, I reckon Live can find a way to have two shoot buttons again. As with the older games, Dunk/Layup could also be used to perform floaters from further out.
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby mp3 on Sat Feb 27, 2016 9:07 am

For what it's worth I've just played 3 games (Jazz/Pelicans/Grizzlies) and I had standing dunks in all of them off the offence rebound.
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby Andrew on Sat Feb 27, 2016 9:47 am

Which mode?
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby mp3 on Sat Feb 27, 2016 4:43 pm

Quick game vs the cpu
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby Andrew on Sat Feb 27, 2016 7:11 pm

Yeah, that generally works fine. Of course, it needs to work properly in all modes, needless to say.
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby mp3 on Sat Mar 05, 2016 7:02 pm

Disappointed they never added bought out players to there new teams like Joe Johnson and haven't waived players like Bargs
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby mp3 on Fri Mar 18, 2016 9:44 pm

Is its weeks roster up yet on ps4? Wasn't there yesterday
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby Andrew on Fri Mar 18, 2016 10:29 pm

Hasn't come through as yet, when I was playing earlier this evening.
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby mp3 on Fri Mar 18, 2016 11:58 pm

Ok cheers mate, got a feeling we are not getting an update this week which is disappointing when your waiting to start a dynasty.

We can't say it enough times... custom roster management...
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby ThaLiveKing on Sun Mar 20, 2016 4:50 am

Yeah, I want to use Ty Lawson on the Pacers lol
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby mp3 on Sun Mar 20, 2016 5:21 am

This is why I don't like them doing the rosters, mike over at 2k does there rosters and there on point everyday but you also have the option to do them yourself but I just use the official roster least days because I know it will be upto date.

With EA you have to wait weeks after the trade deadline before the rosters are right.

I don't want to ill of the EA team but I do question how much nba they actually watch and how much work goes into the rosters each week.
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby Andrew on Sun Mar 20, 2016 10:15 am

I don't think the issue is a lack of care, attention, or knowledge, but there seems to be some problem with the update system. I'm wondering if there are conflicts with the Synergy updates that cause delays and omissions.
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby Izzy Snow on Sun Mar 20, 2016 11:07 pm

Andrew wrote:I don't think the issue is a lack of care, attention, or knowledge, but there seems to be some problem with the update system. I'm wondering if there are conflicts with the Synergy updates that cause delays and omissions.


This! I think (I may actually know) the issue is with Synergy.
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby mp3 on Mon Mar 21, 2016 4:14 pm

Quick question though,why would synergy affect players being off rosters for weeks, playing having the same number as a teammate or just wrong number in general and the accessories being off?
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby [Q] on Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:22 pm

Izzy Snow wrote:
Andrew wrote:I don't think the issue is a lack of care, attention, or knowledge, but there seems to be some problem with the update system. I'm wondering if there are conflicts with the Synergy updates that cause delays and omissions.


This! I think (I may actually know) the issue is with Synergy.

Excuses. Synergy worked fine on daily roster updates in Live 10
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby Andrew on Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:19 pm

[Q] wrote:Excuses. Synergy worked fine on daily roster updates in Live 10

mp3 wrote:Quick question though,why would synergy affect players being off rosters for weeks, playing having the same number as a teammate or just wrong number in general and the accessories being off?


Just because it worked properly in the past doesn't mean there can't be problems with it now. Especially if there's something different about the way the data is received and/or subsequently delivered, which is definitely possible.

With the updates in NBA Live 09 and NBA Live 10, generic placeholders would be initially generated when players had to be added to the roster. It usually took a manual update to get them their proper bio data and a fixed appearance, and occasionally, that didn't happen right away. My guess is that something in the update system is different now, on one hand avoiding the use of generic "dummy" players that have the correct name and that's about it, but the other hand causing a delay in getting players into the game.

As far as inaccuracies with jersey numbers and accessories, I'm inclined to think that's indeed oversight. That's unfortunate, but having made roster updates for the PC versions of NBA Live for years, I can attest to that being easy enough to happen, no matter how much care you take, no matter whether or not you double-check. There are over 400 players in the league, so mistakes will slip through, sometimes for a few updates running. That's where community feedback comes in handy; that always helped me catch things that escaped my notice.

I don't mean to suggest that the Synergy data is definitely directly responsible for all the issues. However, there could certainly be problems with the way it and other new data is being pushed through, compared to how it was done in NBA Live 09 and NBA Live 10. I mentioned Synergy as a possible factor because it could be a case of not having enough data for some of the missing players, and issues with adding those players before that data is available. Or something along those lines.

That's just one theory. Even if it isn't the Synergy data specifically, I'd suggest there's something different and problematic about the way new content is delivered to the game. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the way that roster data is handled is also at least partly responsible for user roster editing not being available in the game.
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby mp3 on Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:03 pm

There could be a simple reason why there has being no roster update, Spring Break??

Wouldn't be the first time EA took time out.
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby Andrew on Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:11 pm

Oh, as far as there being no update last week? Definitely possible.
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby mp3 on Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:27 pm

I don't mean to talk harsh of anybody at EA by the ways guys they have my respect.
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby mp3 on Sat Apr 02, 2016 3:10 am

Roster update is up as last Thursday night, still a few missing things and accessories put at least 90% of the rosters are accurate now.
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby Andrew on Sat Apr 02, 2016 9:01 am

We should probably compile a list of the missing accessories and send it along.
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby Andrew on Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:49 am

New roster update details: https://www.easports.com/nba-live/news/ ... -update-15

Four new players have been added in the latest update: Alan Williams, Andrew Goudelock, Axel Toupane, and Sean Kilpatrick.
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby mp3 on Sat Apr 09, 2016 4:48 pm

Better late then never but place holder faces it seems
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby Andrew on Sat Apr 16, 2016 11:26 pm

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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby Andrew on Sat May 07, 2016 11:42 am

Just went through the May 5th roster. The rosters are fairly complete and up to date at this point, though I've noted the following missing players:

Jarell Martin (Memphis) - only room for him or Munford; Grizzlies currently have 16 players under contract due to an injury exception
Xavier Munford (Memphis) - only room for him or Martin; Grizzlies currently have 16 players under contract due to an injury exception
Alonzo Gee (New Orleans) - injured, Pelicans currently over 15 players due to injury exceptions
Quincy Pondexter (New Orleans) - injured, Pelicans currently over 15 players due to injury exceptions
Bryce Dejean-Jones (New Orleans) - as noted above, team roster is at the limit. He has been starting for the Pelicans late in the season, though.
Branden Dawson (LA Clippers)
John Holland (Boston)
Rakeem Christmas (Indiana)
Damien Inglis (Milwaukee)
Briante Weber (Miami)

Another lineup error that I spotted: Phil Pressey is still on the Suns; he was let go in March.

So, as of the May 5th roster, there are 10 missing players, though there's no room for three of them on their team's roster, three haven't played a single game this season, and only one has seen significant court time. Only one player is still on a roster that he shouldn't be, and unless I've overlooked something, there aren't any incorrect jersey numbers in the latest roster.
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby Andrew on Sat May 14, 2016 10:38 am

Just checked, none of the issues I mentioned last week have been resolved in the May 12th roster.
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby beegees on Thu May 19, 2016 7:56 am

Hey all, is there an issue when I start to play Tip-Off in Live Ultimate Team the actually squad with all-season long implemented roster changes is featured on the first screen of the opponent's team choosing, but if you go further into pre-game starting lineups selection, there are players from the Day One default roster?.. Needless to say, old lineups are presented in the actually started game too. :( :bowdown:

2K have similar approach too... (N)

P.S. It's a pity that EA Sports has discontinued its highlights of the roster updates, an Excel spreadsheet was a fair manner. :roll: I have been waiting Thursday/Friday every week like a holiday, due my time zone I have been receiving roster up to dates at local evening. Fancy! There was cool! :drool:
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby Andrew on Thu May 19, 2016 9:39 am

Yeah, the roster updates don't affect Ultimate Team, unfortunately.

I miss the spreadsheets as well.
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby Andrew on Sat May 21, 2016 10:40 am

Just checked, and the aforementioned issues haven't been resolved. However, team lineups have been updated.
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby beegees on Sat May 21, 2016 7:37 pm

It's good to see that someone (thank you, Andrew :)) investigate each update. Unfortunately, EA Sports/Tribuon is lazy to even highlight the tops in just a Tweet without a full post on the website. ;(
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby Andrew on Sun May 22, 2016 10:26 am

Probably not a lot of significant changes at this point of the season. Still, it'd be nice to get some release notes.
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby mp3 on Sun May 22, 2016 4:15 pm

From brushing over Erika's Twitter it seems she's working on Madden so I don't expect much in the way live roster updates.
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby ThaLiveKing on Mon May 23, 2016 1:26 am

mp3 wrote:From brushing over Erika's Twitter it seems she's working on Madden so I don't expect much in the way live roster updates.


yeah, hopefully it means roster saving/editing in NBA Live 17 lol
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby mp3 on Mon May 23, 2016 3:31 am

Fingers crossed.

But I also think it means she will be mailing it in for Live 16
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby Ermolli on Mon May 23, 2016 6:17 am

As long as there's roster editing I don't care if she or whoever is in charge of ratings, I've more faith in guys from the community than whoever is in charge in that area. I feel that way because there will be guys who play the game so much that they'll find ways to edit ratings to tune the game for the better, like the global edits on Live 10.
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby Andrew on Mon May 23, 2016 10:31 am

I too am expecting roster updates to be pretty basic the rest of the way, though it'd be nice if we got something during the offseason (and subsequent wait until NBA Live 17). As for NBA Live 17 itself, as many of us have said so many times, it definitely needs to have roster editing (and sharing).
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby Ermolli on Mon May 23, 2016 11:29 am

I remember Live 10 got updated after Elite 11 got delayed/cancelled but I can't remember much, did they just add rookies with generic faces and updated teams right? Or did they also update ratings and tendencies? If they do update 16 I expect the former at most.
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby Andrew on Mon May 23, 2016 1:17 pm

The Synergy updates continued alongside the lineup updates, with new players having generic/CAP faces. I can't remember if any of the non-Synergy ratings were updated, though. It's been a while.
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby [Q] on Mon May 23, 2016 1:37 pm

Yeah they were doing all of the regular DAILY updates and lineup changes but had generic faces for rookies. Not sure if they updated ratings but that was entirely possible.
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby ThaLiveKing on Tue May 24, 2016 2:34 pm

Ermolli wrote:As long as there's roster editing I don't care if she or whoever is in charge of ratings, I've more faith in guys from the community than whoever is in charge in that area. I feel that way because there will be guys who play the game so much that they'll find ways to edit ratings to tune the game for the better, like the global edits on Live 10.


I'd prefer the global edits from 09 because there were way more attributes, the more the merrier
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby Ermolli on Wed May 25, 2016 9:13 am

ThaLiveKing wrote:
Ermolli wrote:As long as there's roster editing I don't care if she or whoever is in charge of ratings, I've more faith in guys from the community than whoever is in charge in that area. I feel that way because there will be guys who play the game so much that they'll find ways to edit ratings to tune the game for the better, like the global edits on Live 10.


I'd prefer the global edits from 09 because there were way more attributes, the more the merrier


The more the merrier of course, I was commenting on personal experience since I didn't play Live 09. I've read that 07 to 09 had lots of attribute cathegories that aren't on Live anymore which is a shame, those need to come back to further separate player abilities.
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Re: Roster Feedback Thread

Postby Andrew on Sat Jul 09, 2016 11:10 am

A minor offseason update has come through. Only a couple of moves represented (no Durant to Warriors or Wade to Bulls yet), and no rookies, but perhaps a promising sign for some updates in between now and the release of NBA Live 17?

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