Animation Patch: Seushiro Elite V April 10, 2024 updates released

[truefaith0826]

- CPU makes too much of their shots. In all the games I've played, CPU has never gone under a 55% FG (CPU Shooting sliders set at 40/100), being the top game the Thunder shooting 72% FG.

I think that's the downside of editing tunedata.iff.

I noticed this sick shooting FG% of CPU as soon as I edited the tunedata.iff like 2 months ago cause I wanted to do something about that mycareer issue (and my son is bugging me about it). With the help of Jaosming's forum http://forums.nba-live.com/viewtopic.php?f=153&t=92837&hilit=HoS I was able to do it but as I said that's the negative impact that's why I put it back on default tunedata.iff and just use the custom game sliders on settings. I have not tried though other lower values (like between 25-35) on the offense success rate on tunedata.iff

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Those are perfect gifs examples Seushiro in using the charge button against ball handlers. I guess that function is really designed for USER vs USER to enjoy it and we cannot expect CPU to do it with a high tendency against a human USER or CPU vs CPU.

I have pasted the updated animations man and I saw the improved IN OUT dribble animation, fantastic work man I have attached a replay sample with Kendall Gill doing it when was still with Charlotte Hornets.

[Seushiro]

Should be no downside or difference from a Custom Slider and Tunedata.iff if values are the same lol. Tunedata is just a custom slider you can use in game modes that don't allow you to edit the sliders when you want like in My Career and Blacktop.

But we definitely need to lower the CPU sliders further to those 25-30 and see how it goes. Nice that you went for the drive on that replay . I might also try your suggestion with the player tendencies itself per player. Thanks for reminding me about it as I will try to make all my players in the Spurs have a pass first attitude lol.

[Gerard88888]

Sir are you going to make a version of this mod using Gamez's animation mod?

[Seushiro]

Sir are you going to make a version of this mod using Gamez's animation mod?

I don't think I will make using his file as his base file is a decompressed version of the original. If I move over the cross over and hesitation updates, including the underhand freethrow it will just corrupt the entire file and game can't play. I just don't have the luxury to copy paste entire Hex values like he did. However most of the quick first steps, size up, and drives are in the nba_animations.iff so you can use them both together (my nba_animations and his sig_animations) just use his TURK to correct the player sigs he set then you should be good to go.

[Medevenx]

Sir are you going to make a version of this mod using Gamez's animation mod?

Everyone should stop falling in love with gamez' animation mod. It was an unfinished mod that is no longer supported by the original author.

What Seushiro is doing here is very impressive, these are the things that we never thought could be done for NBA 2K14.

[CarolusXCI]

I just don't have the luxury to copy paste entire Hex values like he did.

I wouldn't call that a luxury.

[Seushiro]

I wouldn't call that a luxury.

Ok fine I don't have the "time" in which time is still a luxary ahaha.

But really it is time consuming to:
- list the animations
- decompress the file (Animation names disappear now)
- look for the files
- replace over the files (in gamez)

I'm lazy and I'm not sure but I don't think I can even decompress the file anymore since it is Red MC locked now.

Edit: CarolusXCI I hope you still looking to find more stuff related to animations maybe it might lead us to finding the offset which splits the upper body from the lower body so I can make my own shots and combine releases and bases in one file.

[Gerard88888]

Sir are you going to make a version of this mod using Gamez's animation mod?

I don't think I will make using his file as his base file is a decompressed version of the original. If I move over the cross over and hesitation updates, including the underhand freethrow it will just corrupt the entire file and game can't play. I just don't have the luxury to copy paste entire Hex values like he did. However most of the quick first steps, size up, and drives are in the nba_animations.iff so you can use them both together (my nba_animations and his sig_animations) just use his TURK to correct the player sigs he set then you should be good to go.

so i can still use his animations with your 40ft mod?

[Gerard88888]

Sir are you going to make a version of this mod using Gamez's animation mod?

Everyone should stop falling in love with gamez' animation mod. It was an unfinished mod that is no longer supported by the original author.

What Seushiro is doing here is very impressive, these are the things that we never thought could be done for NBA 2K14.

Sir I agree that sir Seushiro's mod is much more impressive but I did not fell in love with Gamez's mod I just got used to his animations because I have been using it for months.

[Seushiro]

so i can still use his animations with your 40ft mod?

Nope. the 40ft mod is in my sig_animations.

[Gerard88888]

so i can still use his animations with your 40ft mod?

Nope. the 40ft mod is in my sig_animations.

Ah if that's the case I will just continue using your mod.

[CarolusXCI]

I wouldn't call that a luxury.

Ok fine I don't have the "time" in which time is still a luxary ahaha.

But really it is time consuming to:
- list the animations
- decompress the file (Animation names disappear now)
- look for the files
- replace over the files (in gamez)

I'm lazy and I'm not sure but I don't think I can even decompress the file anymore since it is Red MC locked now.

Edit: CarolusXCI I hope you still looking to find more stuff related to animations maybe it might lead us to finding the offset which splits the upper body from the lower body so I can make my own shots and combine releases and bases in one file.

Yes, that'd be big.. I think Gamez managed to do that, right? I remember him tweaking Dirk's jumpshot and showing previews of very minor tweaks on the shot mechanics. So it is definitely possible. I will be soon taking a look at siganims in order to change a little bit of the post play. As soon as I find something interesting I will let you know for sure.

[truefaith0826]

Seushiro, I have attached a video where the cpu player bringing up the ball keeps on doing crossover back and forth until it reaches the half-court or when close to 3-pt area. Do you also experience something like that?

[Seushiro]

Yes, that'd be big.. I think Gamez managed to do that, right? I remember him tweaking Dirk's jumpshot and showing previews of very minor tweaks on the shot mechanics. So it is definitely possible. I will be soon taking a look at siganims in order to change a little bit of the post play. As soon as I find something interesting I will let you know for sure.

I'm hoping it is real and that he managed it. We never got that release were we can clearly see D. Nowitzki on both Shot Release and Shot Base just that animated GIF. For Harden and the rest I understand how he could do it since the release and base are in separate files. Even with his Durant I got the whole animation now so I see he did not splice that one up. But really hoping there is a magical off set which will tell us where the split is. I mean the game uses it to decide anyway so even if i put a free throw, lay up shot, or dunk shot, the game knows how to just use the upper body animations so there should be a magical way.

Seushiro, I have attached a video where the cpu player bringing up the ball keeps on doing crossover back and forth until it reaches the half-court or when close to 3-pt area. Do you also experience something like that?

Pretty Normal for me even in the default sliders and animations the CPU loves doing that except before it really look slow and draggy maybe that is why you did not notice it until now.

[slimm44]

I wouldn't call that a luxury.

Ok fine I don't have the "time" in which time is still a luxary ahaha.

But really it is time consuming to:
- list the animations
- decompress the file (Animation names disappear now)
- look for the files
- replace over the files (in gamez)

I'm lazy and I'm not sure but I don't think I can even decompress the file anymore since it is Red MC locked now.

Edit: CarolusXCI I hope you still looking to find more stuff related to animations maybe it might lead us to finding the offset which splits the upper body from the lower body so I can make my own shots and combine releases and bases in one file.

Yes, that'd be big.. I think Gamez managed to do that, right? I remember him tweaking Dirk's jumpshot and showing previews of very minor tweaks on the shot mechanics. So it is definitely possible. I will be soon taking a look at siganims in order to change a little bit of the post play. As soon as I find something interesting I will let you know for sure.

Would it be possible for you to tweak:

- The amount of post moves a CPU post player will do consecutively? As of now, it seems that they will not do more than 1 or 2 before passing out or shooting. It would be fantastic if top-notch post players could string more together.

- Increase the amount of shots the post player takes while decreasing the amount of times they do a few moves then pass out?

- The speed in which dominant face-up big men can transition from a post up to a face-up to a drive?

- Increase the tendency of post players to dunk when they beat their man badly enough?

[Seushiro]

- The amount of post moves a CPU post player will do consecutively? As of now, it seems that they will not do more than 1 or 2 before passing out or shooting. It would be fantastic if top-notch post players could string more together.

- A lot of things would need to be addressed before this could be changed but the main problem would be on rosters (mainly Player tendencies). This is like killing a player since you would reduce all his other tendencies to make his post game shine. You could even see it for yourself right now, go play any team you want. Pause the game go to coaching > then Tendencies then > By Player (actually even by team) look at your post players stuff in the upper box it will always say 0% while Drive, Mid, and 3Pt all share the cut towards 100%. This needs to be changed to have whatever mid % go to Post game. Lets face it like everyone says mid range game is dead. so Roster makers (a really dedicated one) will have to fix these tendencies to give post players their 10 - 20% on post game. I increased mt new tune data to make go for post shots to 200 (yes 200! using HoS) some players with that 0.50% Post will do the post moves but will not force the post shot as he will pass out due to open players and running other tendencies. So Once again need to up the Post Tendency Percentage.

Edit: I mainly want this too cause aside from the big post players I really want Kobe and Dirk to do more with the post. Kobe does a low post for his fade aways. Hi or low same with Dirk. He does not beat defenders with his dribbles but with mostly post fadeaway shots. SO DEDICATED ROSTER MAKERS PLEASE ) I will however leave my tunedate.iff to 200 (on next release) for post shots tendencies, even if the CPU will often neglect it.

- Increase the amount of shots the post player takes while decreasing the amount of times they do a few moves then pass out?

Players doing pump fakes, engage and disengage in the post are related to the above mentioned answer.

- The speed in which dominant face-up big men can transition from a post up to a face-up to a drive?

- Let me try messing with the Engage and Disengage speeds in the post animations.

- Increase the tendency of post players to dunk when they beat their man badly enough?

At Hall of Fame I think there will always be a defender on your side, even if beaten badly someone will come so the only choice to force a dunk is 1. A good dunk package with collision dunk animations (Sadly lean as the go to dunk has the most collisions and dunk over your man animations) and 2. Dunk on Traffic Frequency 100 in sliders

- Increase the tendency of players to shoot out of the triple-threat position?

Edit Rosters > Player you want to do it > Setup Pre-Dribble tendency > Triple Threat Shot > this should be above Pump Fake, Triple Threat, No Triple Threat.

- Decrease the amount of bumping by on-ball defenders?

Sliders > Attributes > CPU > On Ball Defense > 25 below is your target (but I think anything below 40 works)

Edit: Having 50 - 59 still has less bumps and can ankle break fairly, whereas 60+ has less ankle breaks to none at all.

- Increase the tendency of players to flare-out to the 3pt line in fast break situations if they are shooters and cut to the basket if they are inside scorers?

No chance with this mainly because CPU will always try for highest %. Messing with the sliders to do this would mean diminishing the Attack the basket tendency, Post shot tendency, go for dunks, take inside shots, and take mid-range shots shots (which I have gladly made 0 so the CPU has less choices and can do post shots to burn time.)

[Seushiro]

Latest Version is out:
whats new in this version?
- Open up the sliders more to give way to Post and Wing plays
- Adjusted Stamina and Fatugue rate. (Players do not recover fast even in bench so needed to up the sliders a bit)
- Fixed Injury Severity sliders
- Adjusted speeds of some launch moves (decrease speed)
- Removed weak blocks from the game which just makes you go up in the air but with hands not raised.
- Replaced blocks in the paint where you are beside an opponent time the block button right yet he can make the lay up, but you have to gather a long hopstep before you jump up to the air for a block. SO yeah gone I hated that lame slow block. * This also lessens the goal tending
- Post Engage speeds advantage
- Post spin move gives defenders a slight delay so you can be free more after successful win
- Post spin neutral gives ball handler slight speed advantage in case wants to force shot. (will cause collision animation upon you force)

To make sure you use the tunedata.iff correctly. Upon installing new tunedata.iff exit the game then when you get back on make sure you change slider settings to default.



As Lebron said: "Get that weak stuff outta here"







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Replaced the injury severity lower that what I got from adiknbafan since I just jumped and got out for the entire season.



Edit: Updated tunedata.iff uploaded one with low On Ball defense earlier
https://www.mediafire.com/?otw7sg6zh0z0bzc

[truefaith0826]

Awesome work with these updates man, especially the chase block of Paul George and goaltending is not called. .

I attached a video of David Vaughn's chase block on a fastbreak dunk of his Airness. (change the quality of video on settings of youtube in case you need to)

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It almost replicated his actual block when was in New Jersey Nets. .

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Also, kindly take a look at these two animations Seushiro on your next update please. Hopefully, it's possible they can be replaced with other existing animations, better yet remove them. I have also attached videos fyr though I know you are familiar with them.

1. Ugly bump > offensive player loses control after bump, almost falling on the floor. Ugliest to see when it happens with big players.

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2. Evaded back down > as stated , it causes low post player to drop on floor. I think the tendency of it happening in reality is 1 in a million.

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[slimm44]

- Increase the tendency of players to shoot out of the triple-threat position?

Edit Rosters > Player you want to do it > Setup Pre-Dribble tendency > Triple Threat Shot > this should be above Pump Fake, Triple Threat, No Triple Threat.

- Decrease the amount of bumping by on-ball defenders?

Sliders > Attributes > CPU > On Ball Defense > 25 below is your target (but I think anything below 40 works)

I have been testing CPU matches for a long time. I've given Jordan 25 Triple Threat, 100 Triple Threat Shot, and 0 No Triple Shot, 100 Mid Range Tendency, and set the Mid Range Global Slider to 100 and he still doesn't like to take mid range shots from the Triple Threat. Players would take this shot in 2k13. I can't read coding, but it seems like the CPU will not take that shot if it "senses" the defender is too "close".

The thing I don't like about putting the On Ball Defense global slider under 30 in CPU matches is that the AI tends to call more zone defenses, even with zone defense at 0 in the coaching profile. Also, players do still bump at 30. In this era of the NBA, bodying up the ball handler is almost always a foul. In CPU matches, there is A LOT of bumping animations.

[Seushiro]

I have been testing CPU matches for a long time. I've given Jordan 25 Triple Threat, 100 Triple Threat Shot, and 0 No Triple Shot, 100 Mid Range Tendency, and set the Mid Range Global Slider to 100 and he still doesn't like to take mid range shots from the Triple Threat. Players would take this shot in 2k13. I can't read coding, but it seems like the CPU will not take that shot if it "senses" the defender is too "close".

- You will need to take out a lot from him and his teammates other scoring tendencies and passing out tendencies if you really want that to happen. At 2k14 that would suck thou having Jordan with all his Tendencies down just to get him to play that triple threat shot. Which we know well he will not take unless he is wide open (which will never happen Player vs Player or CPU vs CPU unless unguarded or clock down to 5 secs CPU will not make those Mid range shots). Also I think this would be better to experiment as a close shot instead of a Mid. So instead of doing the post shot he can use the triple threat instead. The mid range area is so small that I always take it out 0/100 on my sliders and barely notice it missing it is like inside the 3 point line a bit is still using the 3 pt sliders and not mid range.

The thing I don't like about putting the On Ball Defense global slider under 30 in CPU matches is that the AI tends to call more zone defenses, even with zone defense at 0 in the coaching profile. Also, players do still bump at 30. In this era of the NBA, bodying up the ball handler is almost always a foul. In CPU matches, there is A LOT of bumping animations.

- You ask for decrease not eliminate and I don't think there is anyway to eliminate it totally. They will bump you in the zone, but you can fairly easily go through them at 30 and below with no cross overs and just running even if defensive awareness would be at a cap of 100. That is my under standing of less bumping unlike what I have now you drive you get pushed back or even lose the ball trying/ until double team captures you.

1. Ugly bump > offensive player loses control after bump, almost falling on the floor. Ugliest to see when it happens with big players.
2. Evaded back down > as stated , it causes low post player to drop on floor. I think the tendency of it happening in reality is 1 in a million.

I will see what I can do about these 2 I hope they are classified as Type 1 animations and not Type 2 which cannot just be replaced since two players (Player on Offense and Defense) are being controlled in the animation. I might just mess with the put back and Alley-Oop fails too so as to give a sign that it is not going in. Maybe like use the ambient reactions at shouting at your team mate when the scenario happens.

I wont' be making an update in awhile as I am trying to look for something inside the game. Cheers!

[big-shot-ROB]

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[slimm44]

I have been testing CPU matches for a long time. I've given Jordan 25 Triple Threat, 100 Triple Threat Shot, and 0 No Triple Shot, 100 Mid Range Tendency, and set the Mid Range Global Slider to 100 and he still doesn't like to take mid range shots from the Triple Threat. Players would take this shot in 2k13. I can't read coding, but it seems like the CPU will not take that shot if it "senses" the defender is too "close".

- You will need to take out a lot from him and his teammates other scoring tendencies and passing out tendencies if you really want that to happen. At 2k14 that would suck thou having Jordan with all his Tendencies down just to get him to play that triple threat shot. Which we know well he will not take unless he is wide open (which will never happen Player vs Player or CPU vs CPU unless unguarded or clock down to 5 secs CPU will not make those Mid range shots). Also I think this would be better to experiment as a close shot instead of a Mid. So instead of doing the post shot he can use the triple threat instead. The mid range area is so small that I always take it out 0/100 on my sliders and barely notice it missing it is like inside the 3 point line a bit is still using the 3 pt sliders and not mid range.

It's no problem to get Jordan into that area of the court in CPU vs. CPU games with the tendencies that I am using. I can get him into the Triple Threat position for 4-5 seconds at a time, he just won't take the shot. His jab steps make the defender back up, it's just not enough space for the shot. This is why I was asking if you could "force" the shot a bit more. If not, no big deal. It is something that I wish could have just stayed in 2k14 from 2k13.

The thing I don't like about putting the On Ball Defense global slider under 30 in CPU matches is that the AI tends to call more zone defenses, even with zone defense at 0 in the coaching profile. Also, players do still bump at 30. In this era of the NBA, bodying up the ball handler is almost always a foul. In CPU matches, there is A LOT of bumping animations.

- You ask for decrease not eliminate and I don't think there is anyway to eliminate it totally. They will bump you in the zone, but you can fairly easily go through them at 30 and below with no cross overs and just running even if defensive awareness would be at a cap of 100. That is my under standing of less bumping unlike what I have now you drive you get pushed back or even lose the ball trying/ until double team captures you.

Yes, I as a HUM user have no problem with on ball defense by the CPU. I think it's a logic issue within CPU vs. CPU games.

[Seushiro]

It's no problem to get Jordan into that area of the court in CPU vs. CPU games with the tendencies that I am using. I can get him into the Triple Threat position for 4-5 seconds at a time, he just won't take the shot. His jab steps make the defender back up, it's just not enough space for the shot. This is why I was asking if you could "force" the shot a bit more. If not, no big deal. It is something that I wish could have just stayed in 2k14 from 2k13.

Yep nothing in my animation capabilities can do this. I want that CPU logic to change as well, taking risky shots make it more realistic. I would also want this especially for 3 point shooters on the fast break who are already on spot but ~still passes to the middle~. Hope any .exe geniuses have a way of doing that. I would love to go against Golden State with the CPU using my 40 Ft shooting Curry on me and just taking those shots out of screens like a mad man.

[ONYX]

I love the changes for the blocks!

My main problem with blocks is--and not necessarily because of your mod--is how easily a player like J.J. Barea can block Demarcus Cousins from behind on a fastbreak; which actually already is a problem in the vanilla, or default game. I'm saying this because i'm hoping maybe you can do something about this?

Another thing I noticed is how I don't see a single dunk from Westbrook, or any of the other slasher type pointguards specifically in most of the games I play. Maybe it's a tunedata thing, maybe it's a roster thing I dunno just putting it out there haha

And lastly, I think 38 and 42 are too low a rating for pass accuracy. I got players just across from each other on the three point line consistently making errors and causing turnovers; I dunno, everytime i download a tunedata update i raise both back to 50. It just looks silly seeing NBA players making those mistakes; though there have been some instances when it did but only rarely. I hope maybe you can reconsider this for the next tunedata update.

But overall, everything is good; very balanced except for those i have mentioned (just personal preference of course.)

Good job

[truefaith0826]

The only reason I tweaked down pass accuracy is for turnovers. Actual NBA game will have 10-15 turnovers, but since the actual reasons of those turnovers rarely happen in 2k14, there should be a source to somehow match it. Downside is as you know it's frustrating and you are not in control.

Having said that, I think 2ksports will not really design a game where Human user will experience a lot of turnovers due to marketing reasons. But they still did a great job in putting a slider control to match users satisfaction.