NBA2K13 - Music Tool - Song Skipping Fix Example

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NBA2K13 - Music Tool - Song Skipping Fix Example

Postby nesa24 on Sun May 12, 2013 7:34 am

NBA 2K Music-Sound Tool
DOWNLOAD Beta 0.0.2


Changes:
Version 0.0.1
Run Tool
Select jukeboxmusic.bin from 2K13 folder ( make backup please! )
Select one of Read buttons
Click Write
Start game and play song MERCY ( last on list )

eventmusic.bin 1st section>>>temp1
palines.bin 1st section>>>temp2
nesa24test wma not clear sound but game plays it>>>temp3
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Version 0.0.2
replaced temp3 with clear sound
my voice saying PES

How to convert to WMAv2


Leftos wrote:To everyone else...
Like nesa24 said, the files are in WMAv2, 32kbps, Stereo, 44.1 KHz, 16bit. To get any song on your PC to that format, you use xWMAEncode. xWMAEncode is part of Microsoft's DirectX SDK, and can be found here: http://www.mediafire.com/download/zccl8 ... Encode.exe. You run it by putting it anywhere and running it through the command line like this:
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xWMAEncode -b 32000 mysong.wav mysong.xma

You can also decode xWMA files like so:
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xWMAEncode mysong.xma mysong.wav


Once you encode a file to xWMA, open it in any hex-editor, and find the "data" header. After the ASCII codes for "data" is the size of the rest of the file in 4 bytes, and then the actual song data. So, what nesa24 has done so far is grab a chunk of that song data and throw it right into jukeboxmusic.bin at decimal offset 96 to replace the start of Mercy.
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Re: NBA2K Music Format - need help

Postby JaoSming on Sun May 12, 2013 8:55 am

Are you the guy who emailed me? If so, good to see you post on here.

We need to focus on learning the bitrate of the sounds in that file
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Re: NBA2K Music Format - need help

Postby nesa24 on Sun May 12, 2013 9:15 am

yes i am
Since i didnt have response on 04/05/2013 mail i have decided to go public on this

Every section starts with
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69A1BED202000000CD05


and there are sections larger than i posted in 1st post
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Re: NBA2K Music Format - need help

Postby JaoSming on Sun May 12, 2013 9:19 am

unfortunately I did not have anything to report back, and like I said too, I don't have all the time in the world to research this

Since this is a big and important project, I'm moving this to the releases forum for visibility.


This was the last suggestion I got from pdub, who previously attempted decoding these files
Pdub wrote:Encode a bunch of audio files in virtual dub with Microsoft adpcm at different bitrates. Hex edit replace some of that data with 2k data. Size must match, I suggest starting at the end of each song file. Play and see if you get any 2k music or whatever. Finding the bitrate is the key.



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Re: NBA2K Music Format - need help

Postby nesa24 on Sun May 12, 2013 7:09 pm

can you download file from http://forum.xentax.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=5234 last post since you have acc?
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Re: NBA2K Music Format - need help

Postby Angelo on Sun May 12, 2013 7:49 pm

we need a skilled programmer on this one sadly even though im taking up Information Technology i still dont have the experience/skill to code I would have loved to make this program for you guys :(
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Re: NBA2K Music Format - need help

Postby nesa24 on Sun May 12, 2013 8:21 pm

that comes after detecting file rate/coding
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Postby A$AP-Pookie on Sun May 12, 2013 8:32 pm

once i tried to import 2k10's sick soundtrack for 2k12 but that was unsucsseslful.. :( Best of luck for you :)
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Re: NBA2K Music Format - need help

Postby JaoSming on Sun May 12, 2013 10:16 pm

nesa24 wrote:can you download file from http://forum.xentax.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=5234 last post since you have acc?
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Re: NBA2K Music Format - need help

Postby HAWK23 on Sun May 12, 2013 10:59 pm

JaoSming wrote:unfortunately I did not have anything to report back, and like I said too, I don't have all the time in the world to research this

Since this is a big and important project, I'm moving this to the releases forum for visibility.


This was the last suggestion I got from pdub, who previously attempted decoding these files
Pdub wrote:Encode a bunch of audio files in virtual dub with Microsoft adpcm at different bitrates. Hex edit replace some of that data with 2k data. Size must match, I suggest starting at the end of each song file. Play and see if you get any 2k music or whatever. Finding the bitrate is the key.



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Re: NBA2K Music Format - need help

Postby NIB on Mon May 13, 2013 11:43 am

Do not give up guys, we still don't know about the future of the game in PC versions, so finding the way to change songs will affect all game comunity... Look at R4zor example with courts.

He discovers the way to change all parts of a court with a single image. Keep working at the music issue, and you'll find answers. :D
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Re: NBA2K Music Format - need help

Postby nesa24 on Tue May 14, 2013 4:46 am

NIB wrote:Do not give up guys, we still don't know about the future of the game in PC versions, so finding the way to change songs will affect all game comunity... Look at R4zor example with courts.

He discovers the way to change all parts of a court with a single image. Keep working at the music issue, and you'll find answers. :D


Dont worry i am idiot and idiots never giveup that easy

I have asked some friends from PES community to assist with this
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Re: NBA2K Music Format - need help

Postby chicagoRAW on Tue May 14, 2013 4:53 am

nesa24 wrote:
NIB wrote:Do not give up guys, we still don't know about the future of the game in PC versions, so finding the way to change songs will affect all game comunity... Look at R4zor example with courts.

He discovers the way to change all parts of a court with a single image. Keep working at the music issue, and you'll find answers. :D


Dont worry i am idiot and idiots never giveup that easy

I have asked some friends from PES community to assist with this


That's great news. There's been so much done with NBA 2k and it's such a small community. Look at all the stuff being done with other games like GTA, PES, etc. It's just a numbers game as to what gets discovered in this game. (Y)
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Re: NBA2K Music Format - need help

Postby wolly1979 on Tue May 14, 2013 6:49 am

nesa24 wrote:
NIB wrote:Do not give up guys, we still don't know about the future of the game in PC versions, so finding the way to change songs will affect all game comunity... Look at R4zor example with courts.

He discovers the way to change all parts of a court with a single image. Keep working at the music issue, and you'll find answers. :D


Dont worry i am idiot and idiots never giveup that easy

I have asked some friends from PES community to assist with this



if you go to evoweb forum (pes forum) ..there are very great patcher like " jenkey " that can help you(maybe)
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Re: NBA2K Music Format - need help

Postby NIB on Tue May 14, 2013 7:26 am

nesa24 wrote:
NIB wrote:Do not give up guys, we still don't know about the future of the game in PC versions, so finding the way to change songs will affect all game comunity... Look at R4zor example with courts.

He discovers the way to change all parts of a court with a single image. Keep working at the music issue, and you'll find answers. :D


Dont worry i am idiot and idiots never giveup that easy

I have asked some friends from PES community to assist with this


Very nice to hear Nesa! :D
Hope you find what you need my friend!

P.S. I am an idiot too!!! Heheheheh :mrgreen:
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Re: NBA2K Music Format - need help

Postby nesa24 on Wed May 15, 2013 7:28 am

UPDATE

http://www.mediafire.com/view/?nwx266fczakbl64 <<<< READ TXT

http://www.mediafire.com/?ar4o0urry4n4yud

copy file to game folder and play song mercy
at start you will see mix of songs and it works

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Postby wolly1979 on Wed May 15, 2013 8:19 am

great!!!! :D
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Postby wolly1979 on Wed May 15, 2013 8:27 am

i hope one day will be possible put this song in the game..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgLIoOojHkc :D

or this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_B9bhkuSmk
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Postby bigh0rt on Wed May 15, 2013 8:35 am

wolly1979 wrote:i hope one day will be possible put this song in the game..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgLIoOojHkc :D

or this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_B9bhkuSmk

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Postby JaoSming on Wed May 15, 2013 8:56 am

nesa24 wrote:UPDATE

http://www.mediafire.com/view/?nwx266fczakbl64 <<<< READ TXT

http://www.mediafire.com/?ar4o0urry4n4yud

copy file to game folder and play song mercy
at start you will see mix of songs and it works

:cheeky:

great job figuring out how the songs are split up, (Y) (Y) but we still need to figure out what format they are
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Re: NBA2K Music Format - need help

Postby nesa24 on Wed May 15, 2013 6:16 pm

JaoSming wrote:great job figuring out how the songs are split up, (Y) (Y) but we still need to figure out what format they are


Thanks but i need help from others
Noone is posting suggestions or what thay got so far...
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Re: NBA2K Music Format - need help

Postby nesa24 on Wed May 15, 2013 7:43 pm

UPDATE

2k12/2k13 sections are same
69A1BED202000000CD0500000A00000044AC
2k11 isnt
69A1BED202000000CF050000020000002256


http://www.mediafire.com/?6i4p340zghdtmdq <<<< replaced start of Mercy with Eminem-FastLane from 2k12
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Re: NBA2K Music Format - need help

Postby JaoSming on Wed May 15, 2013 9:42 pm

nesa24 wrote:
JaoSming wrote:great job figuring out how the songs are split up, (Y) (Y) but we still need to figure out what format they are


Thanks but i need help from others
Noone is posting suggestions or what thay got so far...

viewtopic.php?f=149&t=91435&view=unread#p1621136
because that is all there is. Unfortunately I couldn't find any bitrates that worked, but you guys can try too.

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Postby nesa24 on Wed May 15, 2013 9:46 pm

JaoSming wrote:viewtopic.php?f=149&t=91435&view=unread#p1621136
because that is all there is. Unfortunately I couldn't find any bitrates that worked, but you guys can try too.

We've attacked this year after year, you are the closest


I have made public call for help
http://www.evo-web.co.uk/forums/showthr ... st&t=70989

this will end soon :crazyeyes:
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Postby Amroth on Thu May 16, 2013 12:33 am

Please don't give up!!!!
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Postby Brawn Shadley on Thu May 16, 2013 1:06 am

nesa24 wrote:I have made public call for help
http://www.evo-web.co.uk/forums/showthr ... st&t=70989

this will end soon :crazyeyes:

Your avatar in that site :lol: (Y)
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Postby nesa24 on Thu May 16, 2013 5:43 am

i had some discussions with game modders
i am taking 2-3 days brake from this to clear my mind
i am very near solution but i have to distance to see it clearly

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Postby NIB on Thu May 16, 2013 8:03 am

So, you are close to find a solution Nesa, try sleep then comeback to the problem. :D

Helps me, when i'm close to find a solution like you are.
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Re: NBA2K Music Format - need help

Postby nesa24 on Fri May 17, 2013 5:07 pm

so
69A1BED202000000CD05

isnt just header of section
after 69A1BED2
02 part must point to stereo
44AC after CD05 part must point to 44100 rate
and its ADPCM

So we are missing only two things
1. BitRate
2. Version of ADPCM ( Microsoft or Intel one )

Will try later to figure it out
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Postby wtferrell on Fri May 17, 2013 10:15 pm

Holy cow. I have no clue what on earth all of this Hex stuff you're talking about is, but this is the biggest progression in this department that we've seen since 2k has graced the pc. If you can figure this out, then :applaud:
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Postby JaoSming on Fri May 17, 2013 11:35 pm

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Re: NBA2K Music Format - need help

Postby Amroth on Sat May 18, 2013 5:11 pm

Please nesa release something
Alredy got a sountrack!!
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Postby nesa24 on Sat May 18, 2013 5:52 pm

nope
failed to get it right
we need help from xentax guys

adpcm is used on many xbox ported games (halo,psychonauts..)
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Postby Amroth on Sat May 18, 2013 10:52 pm

nesa24 wrote:nope
failed to get it right
we need help from xentax guys

adpcm is used on many xbox ported games (halo,psychonauts..)



You have alredy make some help request?
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Postby Amroth on Sun May 19, 2013 1:05 am

good news so... ^_^
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Postby nesa24 on Sun May 19, 2013 3:13 am

Amroth wrote:You have alredy make some help request?
:)


no i cant post there
cant make account
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Re: NBA2K Music Format - need help

Postby nesa24 on Sun May 19, 2013 7:07 am

so as its ADPCM its 4bit big-endian with chunks for every song
every chunk/section has a number that is at offset 24 with it of an chunk

First Song in file ( Mercy ) ends at CC570 offset and that song has 56 parts.
Chunks of 1st song
00000000
00003A62
000074C4
0000AF26
0000E988
000123EA
00015E4C
000198AE
0001D310
00020D72
000247D4
00028236
0002BC98
0002F6FA
0003315C
00036BBE
0003A620
0003E082
00041AE4
00045546
00048FA8
0004CA0A
0005046C
00053ECE
00057930
0005B392
0005EDF4
00062856
000662B8
00069D1A
0006D77C
000711DE
00074C40
000786A2
0007C104
0007FB66
000835C8
0008702A
0008AA8C
0008E4EE
00091F50
000959B2
00099414
0009CE76
000A08D8
000A433A
000A7D9C
000AB7FE
000AF260
000B2CC2
000B6724
000BA186
000BDBE8
000C164A
000C50AC
000C8B0E
000CC570

and this is complicated
without any help i cant do much more....
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Postby nesa24 on Sun May 19, 2013 7:44 am

good
i have asked on audacity forum

btw who is Pdub and where can i contact him? ( regarding your post with his quote )
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Postby nesa24 on Sun May 19, 2013 8:10 am

JaoSming wrote:only one of the Administrators of this forum - memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=8801


no need for ONLY thing mate
i am new here so its normal to ask rather than search around

Well today is my birthday so no more from me in next 2-3 days
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Re: NBA2K Music Format - need help

Postby JaoSming on Sun May 19, 2013 8:21 am

nesa24 wrote:no need for ONLY thing mate
i am new here so its normal to ask rather than search around

Well today is my birthday so no more from me in next 2-3 days


it wasnt meant as an annoyed or bratty thing, enjoy your birthday.
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Re: NBA2K Music Format - need help

Postby nesa24 on Sun May 19, 2013 8:30 pm

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Re: NBA2K Music Format - need help

Postby JaoSming on Sun May 19, 2013 8:53 pm

nothing useful can come from posting it on OS the people who would see it there have seen it here, and you can create an account there without donating, I know that for a fact.
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Re: NBA2K Music Format - need help

Postby nesa24 on Sun May 19, 2013 9:03 pm

JaoSming wrote:nothing useful can come from posting it on OS the people who would see it there have seen it here, and you can create an account there without donating, I know that for a fact.


yea but i cant make new topic for 7 days due to limits

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Thats why i asked
Just trying to get whole community (NBA+PES) in this to solve it faster
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Postby JaoSming on Sun May 19, 2013 9:08 pm

damn, when did all these sites implement these restrictions?
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Re: NBA2K Music Format - need help

Postby Pdub on Mon May 20, 2013 3:33 am

According to the offsets you listed, if you strip the chunk headers from Mercy, you end up with a song that is around 800-900 kb large. It has to be compressed. Even the lower quality adpcm encoding puts the song in the 4 mb range, while sounding like crap in comparison to the 2K version. The song is about 3:30 long, and that would put it at 4 KB/s for 2K13. That means that the bitrate is around 32 kbps. If it's compressed at say a 4:1 ratio inside the container, then it could be 128 kbps. These are all approximations that I made after recording the song and encoding it to the adpcm codecs. I still think it could be xma adpcm, or just adpcm compressed with zlib. If you look at some of the cdf audio files, they have ZLIB headers, which means they are compressed. If it was uncompressed, even with chunks you could align it by it's encoded blocks inside a hex editor, but that doesn't even work.
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Re: NBA2K Music Format - need help

Postby nesa24 on Mon May 20, 2013 4:37 am

JaoSming wrote:damn, when did all these sites implement these restrictions?


well no freedom no community and devs for community
restrictions is main problem in 2K comm

Pdub wrote:According to the offsets you listed, if you strip the chunk headers from Mercy, you end up with a song that is around 800-900 kb large. It has to be compressed. Even the lower quality adpcm encoding puts the song in the 4 mb range, while sounding like crap in comparison to the 2K version. The song is about 3:30 long, and that would put it at 4 KB/s for 2K13. That means that the bitrate is around 32 kbps. If it's compressed at say a 4:1 ratio inside the container, then it could be 128 kbps. These are all approximations that I made after recording the song and encoding it to the adpcm codecs. I still think it could be xma adpcm, or just adpcm compressed with zlib. If you look at some of the cdf audio files, they have ZLIB headers, which means they are compressed. If it was uncompressed, even with chunks you could align it by it's encoded blocks inside a hex editor, but that doesn't even work.


with what did you encode (audacity/vdub..)
ADPCM is bad format but memory points to it and its common used on XBOX ports so it must be it
It can be that ADPCM is used only in video files of game but i dont think that

840KB is 1st song
1095KB is 2nd song
615KB is 3rd song
http://www.mediafire.com/?t1o89c7g0280tr4 <<< Song separated 1-2-3 ( from start of jukeboxmusic.bin )

As of zlib i dont think its zlibbed
Dont have proof but dont think its
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Re: NBA2K Music Format - need help

Postby HAWK23 on Mon May 20, 2013 5:51 am

Pdub wrote:According to the offsets you listed, if you strip the chunk headers from Mercy, you end up with a song that is around 800-900 kb large. It has to be compressed. Even the lower quality adpcm encoding puts the song in the 4 mb range, while sounding like crap in comparison to the 2K version. The song is about 3:30 long, and that would put it at 4 KB/s for 2K13. That means that the bitrate is around 32 kbps. If it's compressed at say a 4:1 ratio inside the container, then it could be 128 kbps. These are all approximations that I made after recording the song and encoding it to the adpcm codecs. I still think it could be xma adpcm, or just adpcm compressed with zlib. If you look at some of the cdf audio files, they have ZLIB headers, which means they are compressed. If it was uncompressed, even with chunks you could align it by it's encoded blocks inside a hex editor, but that doesn't even work.



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Re: NBA2K Music Format - need help

Postby nesa24 on Mon May 20, 2013 5:57 am

HAWK23 wrote:http://youtu.be/sT8Boaz6gOM


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