SCOREBOARD- TWC version 2a. FOX, NBA, ESPN made.

[maumau78]

Great work exrxixxx...

Just a quck question: I usually play on 4:3 screen with your FOX scoreboard. Unfortunately it's not centered....is there an easy way to move it to the right?
Can you point me in the right direction? I have both MAX and hex edit skills....

Thx in advance

Thank you.
Before starting a new scoreboard I always have an option where to place it. For very understandable reason I put it to my center. And I think think my center is correct.
This is because when I run Video Performance benchmark my scoreboard is always centered.
But when I start a new game my scrbd is left orientated too. But I use hotkey to shake resolution and eveything became centered. My investigation shows that the loading screens are not same aspect ratio as scoreboard's ratio, therefore there is a conflict. Also please note that this is not a scoreboard's fault, but 2K coding or just graphic card issues.
Try to go to windowed mode when you see the board left orientated (CTRL+TAB) and then go back.
Even default 2K scoreboard is left orientated, you just do not notice while it is small and in the right corner.
If you use 2012 mods made by Ariel (Ariel's ESPN 2K12) - it is also left orientated in 2K13. I am sure it was centered in NBA2K12.

My advise - play with your native aspect ratio and "shake resolution" with hotkey combination (use http://funk.eu/hrc/) or go to windowed mode 9CTRL+ALT). For me it works.
You have to find what's best to you by yourself.
There are some more advises by Leftos in last 3, 4 pages

Thx exrxixxx, but I don't get It...:-/

My Video native resolution is 1680x1050 (16:10)...I want to play on my beloved 1280x1024 res....do I have to start the game at 1680x1050 and then switch res with HRC??

Thx

[Haxz0rz1337]

Hey man you released ESPN Scoreboard, but only in *exe file. Can you upload a normal *rar file? Because, I'm not using online data just copying all to NBA 2K13 folder. Thanks.

[exrxixxx]

Hey man you released ESPN Scoreboard, but only in *exe file. Can you upload a normal *rar file? Because, I'm not using online data just copying all to NBA 2K13 folder. Thanks.

There is a link for manual on this (or previous) page

[exrxixxx]

Great work exrxixxx...

Just a quck question: I usually play on 4:3 screen with your FOX scoreboard. Unfortunately it's not centered....is there an easy way to move it to the right?
Can you point me in the right direction? I have both MAX and hex edit skills....

Thx in advance

Thank you.
Before starting a new scoreboard I always have an option where to place it. For very understandable reason I put it to my center. And I think think my center is correct.
This is because when I run Video Performance benchmark my scoreboard is always centered.
But when I start a new game my scrbd is left orientated too. But I use hotkey to shake resolution and eveything became centered. My investigation shows that the loading screens are not same aspect ratio as scoreboard's ratio, therefore there is a conflict. Also please note that this is not a scoreboard's fault, but 2K coding or just graphic card issues.
Try to go to windowed mode when you see the board left orientated (CTRL+TAB) and then go back.
Even default 2K scoreboard is left orientated, you just do not notice while it is small and in the right corner.
If you use 2012 mods made by Ariel (Ariel's ESPN 2K12) - it is also left orientated in 2K13. I am sure it was centered in NBA2K12.

My advise - play with your native aspect ratio and "shake resolution" with hotkey combination (use http://funk.eu/hrc/) or go to windowed mode 9CTRL+ALT). For me it works.
You have to find what's best to you by yourself.
There are some more advises by Leftos in last 3, 4 pages

Thx exrxixxx, but I don't get It...:-/

My Video native resolution is 1680x1050 (16:10)...I want to play on my beloved 1280x1024 res....do I have to start the game at 1680x1050 and then switch res with HRC??

Thx

Your love is mistaken.
You are correct when saying that 1680:1050 is 16 to aspect ratio. Exactly as mine.
So why you are using 12.5 to 10 resolution?

But we can test it.
Do you see a round circle or just an "egg"


Measure with a ruller from north to south and west-east.
What are results?

I would advise to use 16:10 or 16,7:10

[cyclopsdels]

sir pls... link for ESPN 2.0 without team logos... pls....

[maumau78]

Great work exrxixxx...

Just a quck question: I usually play on 4:3 screen with your FOX scoreboard. Unfortunately it's not centered....is there an easy way to move it to the right?
Can you point me in the right direction? I have both MAX and hex edit skills....

Thx in advance

Thank you.
Before starting a new scoreboard I always have an option where to place it. For very understandable reason I put it to my center. And I think think my center is correct.
This is because when I run Video Performance benchmark my scoreboard is always centered.
But when I start a new game my scrbd is left orientated too. But I use hotkey to shake resolution and eveything became centered. My investigation shows that the loading screens are not same aspect ratio as scoreboard's ratio, therefore there is a conflict. Also please note that this is not a scoreboard's fault, but 2K coding or just graphic card issues.
Try to go to windowed mode when you see the board left orientated (CTRL+TAB) and then go back.
Even default 2K scoreboard is left orientated, you just do not notice while it is small and in the right corner.
If you use 2012 mods made by Ariel (Ariel's ESPN 2K12) - it is also left orientated in 2K13. I am sure it was centered in NBA2K12.

My advise - play with your native aspect ratio and "shake resolution" with hotkey combination (use http://funk.eu/hrc/) or go to windowed mode 9CTRL+ALT). For me it works.
You have to find what's best to you by yourself.
There are some more advises by Leftos in last 3, 4 pages

Thx exrxixxx, but I don't get It...:-/

My Video native resolution is 1680x1050 (16:10)...I want to play on my beloved 1280x1024 res....do I have to start the game at 1680x1050 and then switch res with HRC??

Thx

Your love is mistaken.
You are correct when saying that 1680:1050 is 16 to aspect ratio. Exactly as mine.
So why you are using 12.5 to 10 resolution?

But we can test it.
Do you see a round circle or just an "egg"


Measure with a ruller from north to south and west-east.
What are results?

I would advise to use 16:10 or 16,7:10

It's a 5:4 resolution I like it...only Fox sb is just too much in the left side of the screen....I'll test it even more later...thx

[Leftos]

exrxixxx, that's not a valid test. Images aren't shown differently depending on the aspect ratio, unless you're using one that's not native to your monitor (e.g. using a 16:10 resolution on a 16:9 monitor). The aspect ratio only determines how much space is available horizontally compared to how much space is available vertically.

WHY SCOREBOARDS CAN'T BE CENTERED IN ALL RESOLUTIONS
Again, scoreboards are RIGHT-ORIENTED. You can't change that, as far as I know.

So, let me give you a very simple example.

Let's say we have a resolution of 1200x900 (4:3) and a resolution of 1600x900 (16:9). Let's assume the scoreboard is 800 pixels wide.

So, you're working on a 16:9 resolution. In order to have the scoreboard centered, you need to have an equal distance from the left and the right. Subtract 800 from 1600, and you're left with 800. Divide that by 2, and you're left with 400. So you need to set a 400px distance from the right.

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400px margin ---- 800px scoreboard ---- 400px margin
----------------- 1600px width ---------------------

Works perfectly for any 16:9 resolution. It will show up centered and pretty in 1600x900, 1920x1080, etc.

However, switch to the 1200x900 resolution, and the scoreboard still uses 800px for itself, and 400px for the right margin (a total of 1200px, oh-oh). So this means that there's no space to the left of the scoreboard, hence the scoreboard seems to be left-aligned. It's not. It's right-aligned, but the margin's too big for the aspect ratio.

If you create a scoreboard that's centered for 4:3 resolutions, it's going to be off to the right in 16:9 resolutions.

And that's why you can't have scoreboards be centered for all aspect rations. Only scoreboards like the default 2K one or the TNT one that are right-aligned are going to work fine in both aspect ratios.

P.S. People need to use the native aspect ratio of their monitor. There's 4:3, 16:10 and 16:9 monitors out there, so depending on your monitor, always use the right aspect ratio for it, or you'll either get a stretched image, or black bars.

maumau78, your monitor has a native aspect ratio of 16:10, and you want to use a 4:3 resolution? That makes no sense. 4:3 is a nearly square resolution, while 16:10 is widescreen. There's no point in using a 4:3 resolution in a widescreen monitor, unless you enjoy your image stretched or with black bars, as I mentioned.

[exrxixxx]

exrxixxx, that's not a valid test. Images aren't shown differently depending on the aspect ratio, unless you're using one that's not native to your monitor (e.g. using a 16:10 resolution on a 16:9 monitor). The aspect ratio only determines how much space is available horizontally compared to how much space is available vertically.

WHY SCOREBOARDS CAN'T BE CENTERED IN ALL RESOLUTIONS
Again, scoreboards are RIGHT-ORIENTED. You can't change that, as far as I know.

So, let me give you a very simple example.

Let's say we have a resolution of 1200x900 (4:3) and a resolution of 1600x900 (16:9). Let's assume the scoreboard is 800 pixels wide.

So, you're working on a 16:9 resolution. In order to have the scoreboard centered, you need to have an equal distance from the left and the right. Subtract 800 from 1600, and you're left with 800. Divide that by 2, and you're left with 400. So you need to set a 400px distance from the right.

Code: Select all

400px margin ---- 800px scoreboard ---- 400px margin
----------------- 1600px width ---------------------

Works perfectly for any 16:9 resolution. It will show up centered and pretty in 1600x900, 1920x1080, etc.

However, switch to the 1200x900 resolution, and the scoreboard still uses 800px for itself, and 400px for the right margin (a total of 1200px, oh-oh). So this means that there's no space to the left of the scoreboard, hence the scoreboard seems to be left-aligned. It's not. It's right-aligned, but the margin's too big for the aspect ratio.

If you create a scoreboard that's centered for 4:3 resolutions, it's going to be off to the right in 16:9 resolutions.

And that's why you can't have scoreboards be centered for all aspect rations. Only scoreboards like the default 2K one or the TNT one that are right-aligned are going to work fine in both aspect ratios.

P.S. People need to use the native aspect ratio of their monitor. There's 4:3, 16:10 and 16:9 monitors out there, so depending on your monitor, always use the right aspect ratio for it, or you'll either get a stretched image, or black bars.

maumau78, your monitor has a native aspect ratio of 16:10, and you want to use a 4:3 resolution? That makes no sense. 4:3 is a nearly square resolution, while 16:10 is widescreen. There's no point in using a 4:3 resolution in a widescreen monitor, unless you enjoy your image stretched or with black bars, as I mentioned.

By no doubt your notes are correct. I hope users will solve their "center" difficulties. Because this is really can be solved

[Leftos]

exrxixxx, users with 4:3 monitors have no way to have the scoreboards centered since you're working on a 16:9 monitor. Only solution for them is to switch to a 16:9 monitor, and that requires money.

[exrxixxx]

exrxixxx, users with 4:3 monitors have no way to have the scoreboards centered since you're working on a 16:9 monitor. Only solution for them is to switch to a 16:9 monitor, and that requires money.

anyway... I really can not change anything regarding aspect ratio or resolution at newsocrebug.iff
There no such option like aspect ratios inside.
Mine monitor is 16:10. I have no other option than to place scoreboards to my center.

So... wide screen users can solve this, sorry for 4:3.
GL all

[Leftos]

exrxixxx, yeah, pretty much. Nobody's expecting you to cater to both 16:9 and 4:3 resolutions. You'd need to change the position of every single thing in the scoreboard and thus create a separate version in order for the scoreboard to be centered for 4:3.

Keep doing what you're doing.

[lethal]

Whats your next project?

[Haxz0rz1337]

There is a link for manual on this (or previous) page

Thanks, works great. Really good job, i'm your fan. I'm waiting for TNT v.2.0

BTW -

[exrxixxx]

Whats your next project?

Finishing with resizing 3d object for stats background, trying to make clever installer where user can choose his desireded installation directory and wil release ESPN v3 today.
The only 2 things that I still don't like about ESPn are:
a) I still can't import higher texture than 512x512. Somehow 3/4 of the texture square become damaged. Therefore we can't have the crystal clear view of the scoreboard.

It is actually the same problem as in other thread
Don't know if anybody has solved this
http://forums.nba-live.com/viewtopic.php?f=150&t=87958


b) There are still some popups at the right side on the screen that are very unusual (Leftos described them a day or to ago here)

Then probably will fix and update FOX/NBA TV.

[exrxixxx]

I think it's readable now.

Furthermore, texts and background are not sliding anymore. It's static. Appears-disappear, this gives even better feel about integration to the main scoreboard.

[bigh0rt]

That looks amazing. Cant wait for it. Simple RAR is fine. Incredible work.

[daninoz]

Do you still need help with the other panels?

I already have the 4 stats coordinates and I was thinking in start to work with the squad formation.

BUT, for what I see, you found a way to move all the panel and not just the texts one by one.

[xerion]

Unbelievable. Fantastic job!

[exrxixxx]

Do you still need help with the other panels?

I already have the 4 stats coordinates and I was thinking in start to work with the squad formation.

Squad looks Ok i think.

PG SG
PF SF
C
(in the middle of the screen)

I am afraid to any of these, let's say to

PG SG PF SF CF

because very often these positions belongs to group and "C" could simply mean "Second line of group texts No.33", where instead of "C" could be written 7/11 or something like that. I am just describing the main ideas how these stats are built, this is not exact information.

So personal I do not require any information at this stage, furthermore are squad coordinates and belongings are known for me.
Anyway thanks

BTW. Eveything is ready for release, I will not update nothing more in this version.
For the future some tweaks will be considered if required.

[daninoz]

So, you founded how to move all the text in the panel together and not one by one?

BTW, can you release a version without team colors?

[cyclopsdels]

Do you still need help with the other panels?

I already have the 4 stats coordinates and I was thinking in start to work with the squad formation.

Squad looks Ok i think.

PG SG
PF SF
C
(in the middle of the screen)

I am afraid to any of these, let's say to

PG SG PF SF CF

because very often these positions belongs to group and "C" could simply mean "Second line of group texts No.33", where instead of "C" could be written 7/11 or something like that. I am just describing the main ideas how these stats are built, this is not exact information.

So personal I do not require any information at this stage, furthermore are squad coordinates and belongings are known for me.
Anyway thanks

BTW. Eveything is ready for release, I will not update nothing more in this version.
For the future some tweaks will be considered if required.

sir release now.. hehehe and add bonus like no team logos... in this version... pls...

[cyclopsdels]

I think it's readable now.

Furthermore, texts and background are not sliding anymore. It's static. Appears-disappear, this gives even better feel about integration to the main scoreboard.

yes sir it's more real nice and great job... pls release it..... hehhhehe.... and add bonus like no team logos.... again fantastic your the king of the creator of the scoreboard...

[exrxixxx]

I have to go to make some meals for my family.
So far...

...here is link to the file.
Use logos from V2.0

v3,0
http://www.sendspace.com/file/lyaj9p

Write here if you find some bugs (would be nice with pics)
Will release officilay later today with 10 overlays (if you wan more texts like NBA ON ESPN, I HATE ESPN or similar) let me know.

[cyclopsdels]

I have to go to make some meals for my family.
So far...

...here is link to the file.
Use logos from V2.0

v3,0
http://www.sendspace.com/file/lyaj9p

Write here if you find some bugs (would be nice with pics)
Will release officially later today with 10 overlays (if you wan more texts like NBA ON ESPN, I HATE ESPN or similar) let me know.

sir thanks... for this

[cyclopsdels]

can anyone help me with this? it should be black. mine is white. thanks guys xD

Try to open newscorebug.iff with any hex editor

Offset (address)

5B2D4
5B2D5
5B2D6
5B2D7

change value to 00 00 00 00

***
This is for "Quarter".
If this helps, will give the rest offsets

sir i have the same problem with this in your ESPN v3.. i already change the value to 00 and when i play again it's view in black... but later on it's come back again in white... what should i do? pls.. help...