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Re: Association & NBA365 Project - PROJECT STOPPED (check pg

Postby Maximus89 on Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:30 am

It was good while it lasted. :applaud:
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Re: Association & NBA365 Project - PROJECT STOPPED (check pg

Postby Warstomp32 on Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:50 am

I can't save..everytime I save..the game suddenly exit and the save file suddenly dissapear
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Re: Association & NBA365 Project - PROJECT STOPPED (check pg

Postby Answer348 on Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:19 am

Really appreciated the work that you put in. At the same time, I don't quite understand the issue here. Presumably, you posted your roster here because you thought people would enjoy using it. You were doing a service for the 2k13 community. If it happens to show up on other sites, that just means more people will use it. If there were some people who were stupid enough to grab the roster from a site that was making ad money from them, that's their problem.

I think there has to be a certain expectation that when you post your work to a free-registration site on the internet, and it's good work, it will make it's way all over the internet in time.
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Re: Association & NBA365 Project - PROJECT STOPPED (check pg

Postby kikisp1 on Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:34 am

man thats bummer..i really hope that you will solve al issues ans continue to this wonderful job..i really appreciate it...
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Re: Association & NBA365 Project - PROJECT STOPPED (check pg

Postby lakers92 on Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:36 am

Sorry for all this guys. People that steal are why we can't have nice things and why the modding community has really plummeted from 2K12 to 2K13. I really hope we can create a private network or something to allow all these great modders to continue to release their work unimpeded by idiots stealing our $

Lakerfan79 wrote:Thanks for the work you've put into it hopefully someone else can continue to carry the torch and keep the project alive.

I'm not quitting. I'm going to still be doing this every day, I just won't release it to anyone for a while until I get this mess cleaned up. Don't worry, I'm still carrying the torch :D

MeGustaNBA wrote:Thanks for the work. With chinese you can't win, they are copying everything they can. At least sites wrote you are the author of patches....
Somebody other gonna make 2014. I think about skoadam and his URB 7.0

Like I told Lakerfan79, the project isn't dead. The releases will just stop for a while.

Answer348 wrote:Really appreciated the work that you put in. At the same time, I don't quite understand the issue here. Presumably, you posted your roster here because you thought people would enjoy using it. You were doing a service for the 2k13 community. If it happens to show up on other sites, that just means more people will use it. If there were some people who were stupid enough to grab the roster from a site that was making ad money from them, that's their problem.

I think there has to be a certain expectation that when you post your work to a free-registration site on the internet, and it's good work, it will make it's way all over the internet in time.

This is a reasonable viewpoint. I expected other sites to want this, but I didn't expect the slimy way they went about it. The way I explained it to somebody in a PM earlier is this:

I do this work for free because I want you guys to enjoy this game as much as I do. I'll use NBA2K.org as my example. I found out about this site yesterday, and was appalled at the length that the moderators of that site went to to steal my mod. There have been over 200 comments since yesterday, WAY MORE than anything else that's been on that site for months. I would venture to say that this lead to increased activity on their pages, and coincidentally led to more ad revenue (since it's tied to page clicks). Because they are using this my work to bring users to their site (thus increasing possible ad $), they are profiting off of me and I am seeing no benefit for it.

I attempted to compromise by using adf.ly links so I could generate some $ at a minor inconvenience to those downloading. Instead of posting these links, the moderators at NBA2K.org downloaded the files themselves, then uploaded using their own links. Now, not only do I have no control over what is posted, but they are taking my cut of the pie.

So basically, I'm not a slave. If other people are going to be making money off of my work, I want some DAMMIT. They circumvented any way I could see compensation from my work. So that's why I'm 10/10 mad and won't be releasing publicly for a while. I hope that explains it very well.

I hope somebody from NBA2K.org is reading this. If you are, PM me with "NBA2K.org we want to talk" as the PM title. I'd love to have a friendly discussion with you :lol:
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Re: Association & NBA365 Project - PROJECT STOPPED (check pg

Postby Dijourno18 on Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:39 am

Answer348 wrote:Really appreciated the work that you put in. At the same time, I don't quite understand the issue here. Presumably, you posted your roster here because you thought people would enjoy using it. You were doing a service for the 2k13 community. If it happens to show up on other sites, that just means more people will use it. If there were some people who were stupid enough to grab the roster from a site that was making ad money from them, that's their problem.

I think there has to be a certain expectation that when you post your work to a free-registration site on the internet, and it's good work, it will make it's way all over the internet in time.

i agree totally..i really do appreciate all the effort u put into this project as it made nba 2k13 so much more enjoyable for me..but at the same time more people are enjoying the game because of u...it is rude that the people reposted your work without your consent but other people are given the opportunity to enjoy the game like us. maybe u could add a link to this forum in the start up screen to prevent people from crediting themselves? anyway it's ur choice once again, thank u very much for all the work u put into the project.

editing my post..i just saw ur post and i think my suggestion can really help solve the issue... the UBR for nba 2k12 had a link to the twitter of the creator at the start up screen.. since the people just steal ur work and have no clue how to actually create mods i'm sure that they wouldn't be able to remove the link to this forum.
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Re: Association & NBA365 Project - PROJECT STOPPED (check pg

Postby lakers92 on Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:42 am

Dijourno18 wrote:i agree totally..i really do appreciate all the effort u put into this project as it made nba 2k13 so much more enjoyable for me..but at the same time more people are enjoying the game because of u...it is rude that the people reposted your work without your consent but other people are given the opportunity to enjoy the game like us. maybe u could add a link to this forum in the start up screen to prevent people from crediting themselves? anyway it's ur choice once again, thank u very much for all the work u put into the project.


You probably didn't have time to read what I just posted before you posted. Hopefully that makes sense to you (they're taking any little piece of the pie I can get). What do you mean link to the start up screen though?
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Re: Association & NBA365 Project - PROJECT STOPPED (check pg

Postby lakers92 on Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:44 am

Dijourno18 wrote:editing my post..i just saw ur post and i think my suggestion can really help solve the issue... the UBR for nba 2k12 had a link to the twitter of the creator at the start up screen.. since the people just steal ur work and have no clue how to actually create mods i'm sure that they wouldn't be able to remove the link to this forum.


Hmm.... I know what you mean! On the plus side, that would direct everybody here. On the negative side, that would direct everybody here. We would get a flood of shitty posters and the people that frequent that site where stealing is rampant, I doubt we want them here. Bit of a catch-22.
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Re: Association & NBA365 Project - PROJECT STOPPED (check pg

Postby Dijourno18 on Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:49 am

lakers92 wrote:
Dijourno18 wrote:editing my post..i just saw ur post and i think my suggestion can really help solve the issue... the UBR for nba 2k12 had a link to the twitter of the creator at the start up screen.. since the people just steal ur work and have no clue how to actually create mods i'm sure that they wouldn't be able to remove the link to this forum.


Hmm.... I know what you mean! On the plus side, that would direct everybody here. On the negative side, that would direct everybody here. We would get a flood of shitty posters and the people that frequent that site where stealing is rampant, I doubt we want them here. Bit of a catch-22.


well the people on the site who download ur project may not be all shitty posters, they might not be aware of this site. i remember i use to download mods from there before i came here. i didn't know that the mods there were stolen. like i said it's ur decision, u make the rosters and im sure everyone would respect ur decision if u were to stop until this gets cleared. the only solution i could think of was the link to this forum with your name etc at the start screen.
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Re: Association & NBA365 Project - PROJECT STOPPED (check pg

Postby lakers92 on Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:52 am

Dijourno18 wrote:well the people on the site who download ur project may not be all shitty posters, they might not be aware of this site. i remember i use to download mods from there before i came here. i didn't know that the mods there were stolen. like i said it's ur decision, u make the rosters and im sure everyone would respect ur decision if u were to stop until this gets cleared. the only solution i could think of was the link to this forum with your name etc at the start screen.


I'm not saying they all are, it's just a greater likelihood. I would maybe be open to seeing if NBA2K.org would post my adf.ly links so I can make a little money. I'd just post the regular ones here for you guys.

But if they just outright refuse that and continue to upload the files in their own links, then no, I will not be releasing publicly anymore. I know it would be a minor inconvenience, but I'd hate for everyone to have to replace their start screen if they didn't want to..
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Re: Association & NBA365 Project - PROJECT STOPPED (check pg

Postby skoadam on Sat Jul 13, 2013 4:02 am

lakers92, bro, u cant stop stealing, its modding issue-my work was stolen so many times-there is no way to stop stealing, u cant secure your hard work by PM your roster and its against meaning of modding. Mods is for free and for everyone. I know its hard, and ure angry but u must live with that and just keep patching.
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Re: Association & NBA365 Project - PROJECT STOPPED (check pg

Postby helvetica on Sat Jul 13, 2013 4:09 am

nbasky.com / nba-2k.com and nbaspot.com have been doing it for years
http://nbasky.com/nba-2k13-updated-rost ... ly-9-2013/

bro just add a password to your mediafire files but don't stop updating pls!!
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Re: Association & NBA365 Project - PROJECT STOPPED (check pg

Postby skoadam on Sat Jul 13, 2013 4:10 am

helvetica wrote:
bro just add a password to your mediafire files

for what?
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Re: Association & NBA365 Project - PROJECT STOPPED (check pg

Postby JAYHOVA110 on Sat Jul 13, 2013 4:11 am

Just wanted to know if it was possible to make the last names of the jerseys arch around the jersey number? In the game, the letters of the last names are in a straight line. And also, can you choose different fonts of letters for the names on the back of the jerseys? I'm no roster editor or anything like that, I just wanted to know. Sorry if its been asked before.
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Re: Association & NBA365 Project - PROJECT STOPPED (check pg

Postby keeks on Sat Jul 13, 2013 4:16 am

what a crybaby... they gave u credit on their site so stop bitching
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Re: Association & NBA365 Project - PROJECT STOPPED (check pg

Postby mlp111 on Sat Jul 13, 2013 4:36 am

Warstomp32 wrote:I can't save..everytime I save..the game suddenly exit and the save file suddenly dissapear

rename the roster, that fix the problem for me ( i called NBA365 project)
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Re: Association & NBA365 Project - PROJECT STOPPED (check pg

Postby mlp111 on Sat Jul 13, 2013 4:39 am

keeks wrote:what a crybaby... they gave u credit on their site so stop bitching

wow.... immaturity is everywhere.... most of the sites didnt even acknowledge him,
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Re: Association & NBA365 Project - PROJECT STOPPED (check pg

Postby miamiheat2010 on Sat Jul 13, 2013 4:39 am

wow :( :cry:
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Re: Association & NBA365 Project - PROJECT STOPPED (check pg

Postby KingDarealHD on Sat Jul 13, 2013 4:44 am

keeks wrote:what a crybaby... they gave u credit on their site so stop bitching
Shut the hell up. At first they didnt give him credit. He had pm them numerous times butt head. He wants to keep his mod here. Not on other sites making money off of it. I've been going to these sites for months now they haven't had this much action it a while. How would you feel if you made a song and then someone took it and started making bank off of it, and then say sorry here i credited you but you still see no $. Plus they didnt credit everyone else until today and other sites didnt even do that.
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Re: Association & NBA365 Project - PROJECT STOPPED (check pg

Postby lakers92 on Sat Jul 13, 2013 4:44 am

skoadam wrote:lakers92, bro, u cant stop stealing, its modding issue-my work was stolen so many times-there is no way to stop stealing, u cant secure your hard work by PM your roster and its against meaning of modding. Mods is for free and for everyone. I know its hard, and ure angry but u must live with that and just keep patching.

This is pretty much reality. I'm working on a compromise with that site now to at least have them post adf.ly links so I see a little bit of $. If you can't beat em... join em? :?

helvetica wrote:nbasky.com / nba-2k.com and nbaspot.com have been doing it for years
http://nbasky.com/nba-2k13-updated-rost ... ly-9-2013/

bro just add a password to your mediafire files but don't stop updating pls!!

Word, guess that's another thing to add some drag to this.

keeks wrote:what a crybaby... they gave u credit on their site so stop bitching

Haha thanks for the heads up. If this ever goes private, I know you'll be getting coal in your stocking.

mlp111 wrote:wow.... immaturity is everywhere.... most of the sites didnt even acknowledge him,

Like I told skoadam, I'm trying to work on a compromise. We'll see what happens. As of right now though, everything is up to date so you guys aren't missing out on anything.
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Re: Association & NBA365 Project - PROJECT STOPPED (check pg

Postby DionWaiters on Sat Jul 13, 2013 4:46 am

Did you even take time out to check out the rest of the NBA2K.org site? This mod isn't the only one on there. they have been around for years and are just promoting the mods. I don't think they mean any harm.
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Re: Association & NBA365 Project - PROJECT STOPPED (check pg

Postby lakers92 on Sat Jul 13, 2013 4:50 am

DionWaiters wrote:Did you even take time out to check out the rest of the NBA2K.org site? This mod isn't the only one on there. they have been around for years and are just promoting the mods. I don't think they mean any harm.


Yes. That's great that they're trying to promote the mods, but they don't link anybody to where the mod actually came from (here). This is among the many issues I'm having. How am I supposed to be getting any recognition with a small thing saying "credits to Lakers92" at the bottom of a HUGE OP. Anybody that doesn't know me from NLSC doesn't know that this is where it comes from.
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Postby skoadam on Sat Jul 13, 2013 5:15 am

Med is(was?) moderator on nbasky, maybe u ask him for some action?
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Re: Association & NBA365 Project - News pg. 8-9

Postby lakers92 on Sat Jul 13, 2013 5:23 am

skoadam wrote:Med is(was?) moderator on nbasky, maybe u ask him for some action?


Interesting, I keep in regular contact with him so I'll talk to him about it. For now, I'm just asking all these "stealing" sites to use the adf.ly links I provide them. I'll keep all the non-adf.ly links here. If they step out of line and don't at least post my adf.ly links, I'll just pull the mod altogether like I had planned to do earlier today before talking to the people at NBA2K.org.
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Re: Association & NBA365 Project - News pg. 8-9

Postby Lakerfan79 on Sat Jul 13, 2013 5:24 am

Well since you are continuing the project i think i might have found out why association and my player modes dont work. Its just a theory based on my experience with other rosters.

Possible reasons
1. You built this roster off the default MED roster, but MED has numerous versions he has a fantasy version, an association version, a BT version.
Im guessing u used the without injuries version as a base. That roster does not work with association or my career idk why ud have to ask MED but it just doesnt. Im not sure how you would fix this other then recreating the roster on the association version of MEDS 1.1 roster.
The reason i think this is true is cuz the albys version works with association and my career it has some glitches but for the most part it works, and im assuming for the albys versions you used a default albys roster which does work with my career and association.

2. If my understanding is correct your changing the draft picks to be realistic too? idk how that works in a roster but nevertheless that could also be what is causing the issue.
Maybe you make an assocation file with the realistic draft picks an a roster file with just the updated FA and rookies.

I know i read somewhere that changing how many players are on one team could make it work as long as all teams had between 12-15 players for example the celtics had 19 players at one point (i believe 17 in the latest update) if you cut 4 players then it should work. I tried that with MEDS roster and it still crashes so i eliminated that from a possible reason.

BTW i was about to offer to carry the project on if you weren't going to obvs giving u and the other contributers all the credit all i could do really is keep the rosters updated; im far from a pro. But im glad someone who is competent will continue the project.
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