Slimm44's 2k13 Roster for PC

[slimm44]

No, but had you applied them, users could easily copy-paste them into their Association save as soon as they started it, effectively transferring them over. Just like I copied your Playbooks from your latest roster into my ongoing Association.

Good point. The problem is, I'm REALLY getting burnt out on editing right now.

If there is anybody who would like to do that, please let me know. I'll send you the most recent file I've edited and you can be a big help to this project. Any takers?

[slimm44]

I cant put a finger on it but watching a cpu vs cpu game with your roster is a thing of beauty.I see alot of little things in your roster that I dont see in others. the floor spacing seems to be a lot better with your roster so there seems to be a lot less bumping in which i think 13 has a serious problem with. plus your roster is the only roster i seem to get a good amount of fouls called. I like to watch alot of cpu games to see how close the players and teams resemble themselves, in my opinion thats when you see players true tendencies and your roster is about as good as it gets.

Thanks, man. I'm glad you're enjoying it!

[BobbyColtrane]

still can't get the cyberfaces, xmas jerseys to work.

is it because i'm using steam? is there a different place to install if you use steam?

any help is appreciated.

update: cleaned everything out again and reinstalled and nothing. beyond frustrated. would someone check the cyberfaces pack in the download to make sure that de colo, prigioni, etc. are in there? none of them show up for me......

[s.tambo]

bro one info what's the CFid by james singleton, i don't see with NBA 2K13 Roster Editor v0.15.1.4, chris singleton is 2147.
thx in advance.

[slimm44]

still can't get the cyberfaces, xmas jerseys to work.

is it because i'm using steam? is there a different place to install if you use steam?

any help is appreciated.

update: cleaned everything out again and reinstalled and nothing. beyond frustrated. would someone check the cyberfaces pack in the download to make sure that de colo, prigioni, etc. are in there? none of them show up for me......

Are you installing the CF's in the Saves folder or the 2k main directory?

[BobbyColtrane]

the main 2k directory

[slimm44]

the main 2k directory

I don't know, man. I just went through the created players this morning and all have CF's. Some don't have portraits, but I'm working on that. None are headless in my roster.

[comeback]

Hi slimm, I downloaded your opening day roster (no injury) and played couple of games. I'm surprised how much work you put in since your initial release. It plays really well. I'm really happy with players touches and shot animations. Thanks for your hard work.

Couple of quick questions if you can help me:

1) Shved is headless and has no arms in my game. Prigioni is fine so I'm not sure what could be wrong in my case. Just wanted to double check if CFs I got from your google link is a complete one. (Maybe you can tell me his CF ID and I will check to make sure I got him correctly in my 2K directory?)

2) I downloaded Tha King's uniforms to go with your roster. Is there something I have to do if I want to make all his alternate jerseys to work with your roster? For example, I wanted to check out Miami's white hot jersey and OKC's alternate jersey but I couldn't make it work.

FYI- When I use jao's unlock settings file with 2K's most recent roster, all jerseys do show. Perhaps your roster is not compatible with this since it is based off early roster set?
(If this is not possible, I'm totally fine... I just wanted to know if I should still invest time trying to make it work)


Again, thank you so much for the massive hours you put in and your effort on details. I once tried to implement vannhawkwolf's playbook in my own roster file once and almost cried because it took so much time and effort. The amount of work you are doing is truly amazing. I really appreciate everything in this roster.

[ZiGGeN]

why the hell is Darko still with the Celtics?

[joey1128]

why the hell is Darko still with the Celtics?

because the file is the opening day rosters

slimm would't make the transactions until the trade deadline day

[joey1128]

ha ha bro,

Here are the "Old" sliders that I use for this roster file.

where is the *new* sliders

love you roster, i would try the new one.

[comeback]

I'm trying to ensure that Shved's CF ID is in my NBA2K13 main directory but I don't see him in the default roster Player_Player ID spreadsheet.
(because he is a created player, not a default player... duh )

Can someone please tell me his CF ID if you know what it is?

Edit: I re-downloaded CF package but still Shved is headless.

[Onisak]

comeback I think its png4002, but I am not totally shure if its for this roster or someone elses... No harm in trying right?

[DerBaba]

Is the roster file meant to be played with the standard sliders or can anyone recommend slider settings that go well with the roster?

[comeback]

comeback I think its png4002, but I am not totally shure if its for this roster or someone elses... No harm in trying right?

Hey thanks for trying to help but I figured it out using Lefto's roster editor tool.
Shved's CF ID is png8003. (You are almost half right LOL)

So I checked the CF package slimm provided on the first post and found out that his png8003.iff is missing from it. I downloaded RapboY's CF and now everything is fine. (The file I got from moddingway already has him at 8003!)

[comeback]

Is the roster file meant to be played with the standard sliders or can anyone recommend slider settings that go well with the roster?

You should definitely check out slimm's slider on the first page. Play few games and see if you enjoy it.
I'm using a slider set I found at OS forums. Try this out too. Make sure you play couple of games on each set and decide.

http://www.operationsports.com/Eccentri ... pre-patch/

[slimm44]

comeback I think its png4002, but I am not totally shure if its for this roster or someone elses... No harm in trying right?

Hey thanks for trying to help but I figured it out using Lefto's roster editor tool.
Shved's CF ID is png8003. (You are almost half right LOL)

So I checked the CF package slimm provided on the first post and found out that his png8003.iff is missing from it. I downloaded RapboY's CF and now everything is fine. (The file I got from moddingway already has him at 8003!)

This is strange. I have never had a problem with Shved's CF (or any others). I have always used the same CF pack that I upload to Google Docs and my routine is to check every cyberface I include in the pack before I upload it.

Probably tonight I'll upload a roster update. It will include transactions up to this point in the season, an updated CF pack (based on ID changes to eliminate conflicts between mods), and the CPU sliders I've been using.

Also, it will include the Play Types being edited to reflect numbers found on mysynergysports.com and will not have any players assigned Iso, Cutter, or High Post. Despite these changes, you will still see players cutting, going for Oops, and the appropriate players creating for themselves in the High Post. This has to do with Freelance Tendencies, Hot Spots, and the way the AI is coded. I ask that you give the changes a try before assuming they won't be good.

[Mr Tr0llz]

Intresting Idea. Look forward to trying it!

Are you also updating player accessories to?

[comeback]

Thank you for the update slimm.

I'm enjoying my week off with your current set.. just playing random games and it's so much fun already. I will wait for your updated roster for an association mode though.

[Leftos]

slimm44, do you think you'll be getting round soon to fulfilling my request of a document listing all objective stats, their sources and scales so that I know how I can improve the NBA Stats Tracker feature? As I said, the guide you provide doesn't help me a lot in that aspect, and I'd love to have a document that has everything nice and tidy, if that's not too much to ask.

[savantopus]

when is the next new release?

Signature moves are being re-worked now. Once those are done, I'll be looking at Signature Skills. I'll also be adding new players as CF's are released. No ETA as of yet. There will be more data to analyze after the season starts.

why some ratings are too high like chris andersen in the fa pool .and kobe is 85? also durant 87? fix some ratings.

Thanks for the answer, Leftos. Allow me to go into more detail.

The individual ratings that hurt his overall rating the most are Offensive Awareness and Defensive Awareness. These ratings affected the Overall Rating by a total of 18 points combined, or 9 points for each attribute. The way that I determine these ratings are by looking at a player's last 3 seasons and for Offensive Awareness, adding the average of Offensive Rating and Offensive Win Shares together. For Defensive Awareness, I take the average of Defensive Rating and subtract Defensive Win Shares from it. The scale that I use looks like this:

Offensive Awareness (Offensive Rating+Offensive Win Shares)

123 - 95
118 - 85
113 - 75
108 - 65
103 - 55
98 - 45
93 - 35
88 - 25

Defensive Awareness (Defensive Rating-Defensive Win Shares)

90 - 95
94 - 85
98 - 75
102 - 65
106 - 55
110 - 45
115 - 35
120 - 25

Kobe is a below-average on-ball and help defender. His Defensive Rating average of the past 3 seasons has been 105 and he has averaged 3 Defensive Win Shares per season. This gives him a Defensive Awareness Rating of 65.

He is an Isolation-based player, a volume-scorer, and has a low EFG% of 47% over the past 3 seasons. What that means is he takes a lot of low-percentage shots. His Offensive Rating average of the past 3 seasons has been 108 and he has averaged 5 Offensive Win Shares per season. This gives him an Offensive Awareness Rating of 75.

In his prime, which he is nowhere near, he had 8 out of 9 seasons where he would have had a 95 in Offensive Awareness. His career high for Defensive Awareness would have been a 75. He has always been highly overrated on the defensive end of the court.

Feel free to look at the Editing Guide in the first post. I explained why I use the scales I do, how I came to them and how they effect the sim-engine.

Any other questions?

Wow Slimm you are a F*ing bad ass. Thank you for staying true to real basketball and not the hype.

[savantopus]

Love your breakdown of kobes game its what people that know basketball been saying for years. Will have to give your rosters a go.

I thought the same thing!! Slimm's talk about Kobe made me want to try his rosters !!

[BobbyColtrane]

just checking in to say i got it working. This is a fantastic roster and the gameplay is outstanding. Thank you Slimm44!

[slimm44]

Intresting Idea. Look forward to trying it!

Are you also updating player accessories to?

The accessories have been updated. The colors have not. Are you using the Global in the first post?

Thank you for the update slimm.

I'm enjoying my week off with your current set.. just playing random games and it's so much fun already. I will wait for your updated roster for an association mode though.

Won't be long, man. I have 3 teams left to edit regarding Play Types, then I'll be able to release it.

slimm44, do you think you'll be getting round soon to fulfilling my request of a document listing all objective stats, their sources and scales so that I know how I can improve the NBA Stats Tracker feature? As I said, the guide you provide doesn't help me a lot in that aspect, and I'd love to have a document that has everything nice and tidy, if that's not too much to ask.

Check your PM, my man.

Wow Slimm you are a F*ing bad ass. Thank you for staying true to real basketball and not the hype.

just checking in to say i got it working. This is a fantastic roster and the gameplay is outstanding. Thank you Slimm44!

Thank you, sirs. I know my roster will not be as good as others in terms of shoes/accessories/colors, but, if I may be so bold, my roster will be the best in terms of gameplay and sim-stats. I'd love it if I could get as much help as other roster makers on this forum. For some reason, it's very difficult, which is why I've been so grateful to those who have helped so far.

[savantopus]

Wow Slimm you are a F*ing bad ass. Thank you for staying true to real basketball and not the hype.

just checking in to say i got it working. This is a fantastic roster and the gameplay is outstanding. Thank you Slimm44!

[/quote]Thank you, sirs. I know my roster will not be as good as others in terms of shoes/accessories/colors, but, if I may be so bold, my roster will be the best in terms of gameplay and sim-stats. I'd love it if I could get as much help as other roster makers on this forum. For some reason, it's very difficult, which is why I've been so grateful to those who have helped so far.[/quote]


Gameplay and stats are my number 1. I could give two sh*ts about having the right color head-band. What can I do to help? I'm pretty good at making sliders adjustments, gauging real-life play, keep up-to-date on all the stats and upcoming players, stuff like that.... What about making the perfect slider set to match your roster?? I've been a huge NBA advocate since I was a kid and pride myself on being unbiased of how the game is played and observant of the real-life cause-and-effect attributes of how the game is played. For example, the post you made that got me hooked to your thread was your talk about Kobe and how he is overrated, especially on defense. I'm not a Kobe hater, he is leading the league in scoring and makes some extremely difficult shots. However, for example, Kobe's FG% during any of his seasons played is not as high as Michael Jordans CAREER FG%. I'm not trying to start a comparison thread of Kobe and Mj, I'm just saying I notice the fine details and see beyond the glamour. Anyway, I've already created a fantastic slider set for the original out-of-box rosters that plays very realistic. I have spent hours upon hours of testing, playing, experimenting, etc. I don't know if I'm rambling now or if this is going somewhere Lol.

You say you need help with editing... what exactly does that entail?

[slimm44]

Wow Slimm you are a F*ing bad ass. Thank you for staying true to real basketball and not the hype.

just checking in to say i got it working. This is a fantastic roster and the gameplay is outstanding. Thank you Slimm44!

Thank you, sirs. I know my roster will not be as good as others in terms of shoes/accessories/colors, but, if I may be so bold, my roster will be the best in terms of gameplay and sim-stats. I'd love it if I could get as much help as other roster makers on this forum. For some reason, it's very difficult, which is why I've been so grateful to those who have helped so far.[/quote]


Gameplay and stats are my number 1. I could give two sh*ts about having the right color head-band. What can I do to help? I'm pretty good at making sliders adjustments, gauging real-life play, keep up-to-date on all the stats and upcoming players, stuff like that.... What about making the perfect slider set to match your roster?? I've been a huge NBA advocate since I was a kid and pride myself on being unbiased of how the game is played and observant of the real-life cause-and-effect attributes of how the game is played. For example, the post you made that got me hooked to your thread was your talk about Kobe and how he is overrated, especially on defense. I'm not a Kobe hater, he is leading the league in scoring and makes some extremely difficult shots. However, for example, Kobe's FG% during any of his seasons played is not as high as Michael Jordans CAREER FG%. I'm not trying to start a comparison thread of Kobe and Mj, I'm just saying I notice the fine details and see beyond the glamour. Anyway, I've already created a fantastic slider set for the original out-of-box rosters that plays very realistic. I have spent hours upon hours of testing, playing, experimenting, etc. I don't know if I'm rambling now or if this is going somewhere Lol.

You say you need help with editing... what exactly does that entail?[/quote]

Right now, a really good slider set for Pro and All-Star would be nice. I have a set that I've been tweaking for CPU games but haven't had time to develop HUM vs. CPU sliders in quite a while. That would be a big help.

[joey1128]

would update the sliders ?

the sliders in the first page was old you said.

[s.tambo]

if possible i want to update your roster with my set of shoes.

[slimm44]

if possible i want to update your roster with my set of shoes.

Yes! I'll update the roster soon and you can add your shoe edits to it. Thanks!

[mlp111]

if possible i want to update your roster with my set of shoes.

awesome, this is th only thing the roster is missing, i was going to help, but slimm44 told me not to do shoe edits until he gave me the go, but would be awesome to have your shoe edits added to this roster

[slimm44]

if possible i want to update your roster with my set of shoes.

awesome, this is th only thing the roster is missing, i was going to help, but slimm44 told me not to do shoe edits until he gave me the go, but would be awesome to have your shoe edits added to this roster

I was wondering why you never started them. It was my mistake. I thought I gave you the go-ahead whenever I released the last version, but looking back through the thread, I guess I didn't. I didn't mean to snub you, man. Would you mind implementing your edits? You were the first one to offer and I'd like you to do them, if you're still interested.

[comeback]

Haha I keep checking this thread and get excited when I see your post slimm... but not yet released ...
coolio not trying to rush you .. just saying!

[s.tambo]

if possible i want to update your roster with my set of shoes.

awesome, this is th only thing the roster is missing, i was going to help, but slimm44 told me not to do shoe edits until he gave me the go, but would be awesome to have your shoe edits added to this roster

You can do it if you want

[mlp111]

if possible i want to update your roster with my set of shoes.

awesome, this is th only thing the roster is missing, i was going to help, but slimm44 told me not to do shoe edits until he gave me the go, but would be awesome to have your shoe edits added to this roster

You can do it if you want

its all good, you can do it...... i'm starting to get back busy because of school, so finding the time to squeeze it in will become harder to do, you got it

[mlp111]

if possible i want to update your roster with my set of shoes.

awesome, this is th only thing the roster is missing, i was going to help, but slimm44 told me not to do shoe edits until he gave me the go, but would be awesome to have your shoe edits added to this roster

I was wondering why you never started them. It was my mistake. I thought I gave you the go-ahead whenever I released the last version, but looking back through the thread, I guess I didn't. I didn't mean to snub you, man. Would you mind implementing your edits? You were the first one to offer and I'd like you to do them, if you're still interested.

maybe me and s.tambo could do it together, he probably has more free time then me now

[slimm44]

Newest Roster has been released. It is in the first post titled "1-4-13 Roster with No Injuries". I haven't made one with injuries yet.

Included in this roster are:
- Boris Diaw position corrected
- DeColo's Info corrected
- Durant given Slim body type
- All transactions current
- Updated Offensive and Defensive Awareness Ratings
- New CF pack updated to eliminate conflicts between rosters. Thanks to Med for taking on the project. MAKE SURE TO DOWNLOAD THE CYBERFACE PACK IN THE FIRST POST
- Cutter, High Post, Isolation Play Types removed
- Run Plays Coaching Slider set back to 0. I just like it better this way.
- Along with the roster file is the settings file I use for CPU games. This is the "Newest" set I've been using. It may need minor tweaking, but I almost have it exactly where I want it.

MAKE SURE TO DOWNLOAD THE CYBERFACE PACK IN THE FIRST POST

[comeback]

THANK YOU SLIMM!!!!

Yes I will download the CF pack also!!!! Really excited about checking this out. THX

[homicide1550]

Thanks slimm!

[SC1211]

Thanks for your hard work Slimm!

[comeback]

I'm trying your settings file for Human vs CPU. So far, it plays very nicely and I'm really enjoying the smooth animation.
I'm gonna play 3-4 games with your settings and check out the team stats.

By the way, I guess you didn't fire Avery Johnson in this roster?

Does anyone know how to replace him? I haven't used 'staff' part of leftos tool yet but I want to give it a try.
If I can figure out if Carlesimo is in the game and under what ID..

[slimm44]

I'm trying your settings file for Human vs CPU. So far, it plays very nicely and I'm really enjoying the smooth animation.
I'm gonna play 3-4 games with your settings and check out the team stats.

By the way, I guess you didn't fire Avery Johnson in this roster?

Does anyone know how to replace him? I haven't used 'staff' part of leftos tool yet but I want to give it a try.
If I can figure out if Carlesimo is in the game and under what ID..

I haven't fixed Calesimo yet because I don't know where his CF ID is. If somebody can let me know what number it is, I'll do it.

[slimm44]

Also, s.tambo or mlp111, whoever wants to do the shoes, go ahead.

[SC1211]

Hey Slimm, I just downloaded your CF pack (I use Generic Mod Enabler so should be like a clean install for me) and Alan Anderson's CF is showing up as Alexey Shved's. Just wanted to give you a heads up!

[slimm44]

Sorry about the triple post, but I wanted to post some stats in a CPU game I just watched.

Game Stats (OT)
Bulls-------------Rockets
112----------------106
46-98FG---------44-87FG
46%----------------50%
4-9 3PT--------9-16 3PT
44% 3PT---------56% 3PT
16-18 FT--------9-13 FT
88% FT----------68% FT
4 Dunks------------2 Dunks
6 FB Points---------8 FB Points
50 PIP---------------52 PIP
15 2nd Chance----4 2nd Chance
20 Bench-----------37 Bench
21 Assists----------28 Assists
14 Off--------------4 Off
40 Def--------------35 Def
6 Stl-----------------5 Stl
1 Blk-----------------3 Blk
10 TO----------------12 TO
9 Fouls---------------11 Fouls
8 Lead---------------7 Lead

Delfino 23Min, 21Pts, 4Reb, 4Ast, 1Stl, 7-12FG, 5-6 3PT
Asik 33 Min, 20Pts, 9 Reb, 1Stl, 1Blk
Harden 42Min, 19Pts, 5Ast, 2Stl, 8-14FG, 1-2 3PT
Lin 43Min, 12Pts, 6Reb, 15Ast, 4To, 5-15FG

Rose 43Min, 24Pts, 6Reb, 8Ast, 2Stl, 6To, 9-24FG
Noah 46Min, 23Pts, 17Reb, 3Stl
Boozer 37Min, 22Pts, 12Reb, 2Ast

[slimm44]

Hey Slimm, I just downloaded your CF pack (I use Generic Mod Enabler so should be like a clean install for me) and Alan Anderson's CF is showing up as Alexey Shved's. Just wanted to give you a heads up!

Yes it is, I'll fix it. Thanks.

[SC1211]

Just played a game btw, these are your best yet! One thing that maybe you can look at for the next update is Marcus Morris of the Rockets. I just used your editing guide to update his ratings to this year's stats. He didn't receive any playing time really last year, but he's basically competing for the starting spot right now (McHale said he is still deciding between him and Patterson). Looks like he has default ratings for some of them (for example, his 3 pt rating should definitely be much higher than a 55).

Anyways, loving these so far.

[slimm44]

Just played a game btw, these are your best yet! One thing that maybe you can look at for the next update is Marcus Morris of the Rockets. I just used your editing guide to update his ratings to this year's stats. He didn't receive any playing time really last year, but he's basically competing for the starting spot right now (McHale said he is still deciding between him and Patterson). Looks like he has default ratings for some of them (for example, his 3 pt rating should definitely be much higher than a 55).

Anyways, loving these so far.

The only comprehensive ratings changes that have been done are the OFF/DEF AWA ratings. Those have been changed. I'm hoping that Leftos will be able to incorporate all of my ratings scales into his Stat Tracker Tool before I start going through team-by-team. If he can implement all objective stats and convert them to ratings, it will take roughly 2 minutes to edit all objective ratings. Which would be epic.

Glad you're enjoying them!

[Uncle Drew]

Thx for the update Slimm, got a question though. Does your CF file overwrite any existing files from other rosters? I've been using yours though because it's more accurate and the portraits are correct.

[slimm44]

Thx for the update Slimm, got a question though. Does your CF file overwrite any existing files from other rosters? I've been using yours though because it's more accurate and the portraits are correct.

My, Med's, and the UBR are using the same CF and Portrait ID's. There's a conflict with Alan Anderson that I'm waiting for a response from Med on but, after that, it should be all good.

[mtdub]

Lol, slimm i read one of your post when you said for some reason you dont seem to get as much help as others, well my man thats what we call ENVY. Me and you on the same page when it comes to what matters the most and thats gameplay. All that other sh*t dont matter to me, i can careless. Im a newbie when it comes to custom rosters and the pc version period. I didnt even know all of these mods was even possible(I know I've been living under a rock).please stay focused on what really matters the most.Not having good gameplay and good shoes and etc. is like having a trophy wife wit a fu*ked up attitude. My woman is a bigtime bball fan and even she noticed how more realistic the cpu plays with your roster, thats real talk. You a bad mutha when a female knows the difference. just saying lol.