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Re: Slimm44's 2k13 Roster for PC

Postby Kyrius on Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:19 pm

I take that as a yes? :)
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Re: Slimm44's 2k13 Roster for PC

Postby mlp111 on Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:58 pm

Kyrius wrote:I take that as a yes? :)

lol, i was so excited, i didnt even realize you asked a question..... the answer is yes lol,
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Re: Slimm44's 2k13 Roster for PC

Postby mmq on Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:23 pm

If you need another beta tester, I am available. I can help you with team colors, I have an excel sheet with my own list of color gears team by team
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Re: Slimm44's 2k13 Roster for PC

Postby Leftos on Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:18 pm

I'm planning on adding a "recommended 2K ratings" feature to NBA Stats Tracker using slimm's formulas, which given NBA Stats Tracker's ability to download all the stats from B-R.com, should make it really easy to update the roster in the future.
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Re: Slimm44's 2k13 Roster for PC

Postby slimm44 on Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:45 pm

Leftos wrote:I'm planning on adding a "recommended 2K ratings" feature to NBA Stats Tracker using slimm's formulas, which given NBA Stats Tracker's ability to download all the stats from B-R.com, should make it really easy to update the roster in the future.


Two questions:

1. Can you explain to me how that would work? Could you also incorporate statistics from other websites, such as Hoopdata.com? PM me if you'd like.

2. I know this is the wrong thread, but can you add the ability to edit playbooks and Hot Zones to your roster? If so, that would save several days of editing.
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Re: Slimm44's 2k13 Roster for PC

Postby Leftos on Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:10 am

1. NBA Stats Tracker downloads all current basic stats for NBA teams and players from B-R.com. I could expand its fields to include more advanced stats, right now it's everything that's in the box score, plus metrics of course. I could incorporate Hoopdata.com data as well, if they're easy enough to mine, and I add the required fields. Using the stats it downloads, it would then use your formulas to calculate recommended ratings, and have a feature to export those in a table that's Roster Editor and/or REDitor compatible. Take a look at what NST currently has, tell me what's missing.

2. I tried doing Playbooks, but I'd need more help understanding their structure from someone experienced. Hot Zones I could probably do easily.
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Re: Slimm44's 2k13 Roster for PC

Postby slimm44 on Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:49 am

Leftos wrote:1. NBA Stats Tracker downloads all current basic stats for NBA teams and players from B-R.com. I could expand its fields to include more advanced stats, right now it's everything that's in the box score, plus metrics of course. I could incorporate Hoopdata.com data as well, if they're easy enough to mine, and I add the required fields. Using the stats it downloads, it would then use your formulas to calculate recommended ratings, and have a feature to export those in a table that's Roster Editor and/or REDitor compatible. Take a look at what NST currently has, tell me what's missing.

2. I tried doing Playbooks, but I'd need more help understanding their structure from someone experienced. Hot Zones I could probably do easily.


I downloaded it but it won't open. It gives me this error every time:

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Unhandled Exception Error Report for NBA Stats Tracker
Version 1.1.0.0

System.Reflection.TargetInvocationException: Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation. ---> System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
   at NBA_Stats_Tracker.Windows.MainWindow..ctor() in e:\Development\Visual Studio 2010\Projects\NBA Stats Tracker\NBA Stats Tracker\Windows\MainWindow.xaml.cs:line 188
   --- End of inner exception stack trace ---
   at System.RuntimeTypeHandle.CreateInstance(RuntimeType type, Boolean publicOnly, Boolean noCheck, Boolean& canBeCached, RuntimeMethodHandleInternal& ctor, Boolean& bNeedSecurityCheck)
   at System.RuntimeType.CreateInstanceSlow(Boolean publicOnly, Boolean skipCheckThis, Boolean fillCache)
   at System.RuntimeType.CreateInstanceDefaultCtor(Boolean publicOnly, Boolean skipVisibilityChecks, Boolean skipCheckThis, Boolean fillCache)
   at System.Activator.CreateInstance(Type type, Boolean nonPublic)
   at System.RuntimeType.CreateInstanceImpl(BindingFlags bindingAttr, Binder binder, Object[] args, CultureInfo culture, Object[] activationAttributes)
   at System.Activator.CreateInstance(Type type, BindingFlags bindingAttr, Binder binder, Object[] args, CultureInfo culture, Object[] activationAttributes)
   at System.Activator.CreateInstance(Type type, Object[] args)
   at System.Xaml.Schema.SafeReflectionInvoker.CreateInstanceCritical(Type type, Object[] arguments)
   at System.Xaml.Schema.SafeReflectionInvoker.CreateInstance(Type type, Object[] arguments)
   at System.Xaml.Schema.XamlTypeInvoker.CreateInstance(Object[] arguments)
   at MS.Internal.Xaml.Runtime.ClrObjectRuntime.CreateInstanceWithCtor(XamlType xamlType, Object[] args)
   at MS.Internal.Xaml.Runtime.ClrObjectRuntime.CreateInstance(XamlType xamlType, Object[] args)
   at MS.Internal.Xaml.Runtime.PartialTrustTolerantRuntime.CreateInstance(XamlType xamlType, Object[] args)
   at System.Xaml.XamlObjectWriter.Logic_CreateAndAssignToParentStart(ObjectWriterContext ctx)
   at System.Xaml.XamlObjectWriter.WriteStartMember(XamlMember property)
   at System.Xaml.XamlWriter.WriteNode(XamlReader reader)
   at System.Windows.Markup.WpfXamlLoader.TransformNodes(XamlReader xamlReader, XamlObjectWriter xamlWriter, Boolean onlyLoadOneNode, Boolean skipJournaledProperties, Boolean shouldPassLineNumberInfo, IXamlLineInfo xamlLineInfo, IXamlLineInfoConsumer xamlLineInfoConsumer, XamlContextStack`1 stack, IStyleConnector styleConnector)
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   at MS.Internal.Threading.ExceptionFilterHelper.TryCatchWhen(Object source, Delegate method, Object args, Int32 numArgs, Delegate catchHandler)

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There was no read me file with the .exe file and I couldn't find the answer by skimming through the thread. Can you give me a hand?
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Re: Slimm44's 2k13 Roster for PC

Postby Leftos on Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:49 am

You're missing a required registry value for whatever reason, the "Saves" value actually in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\2K Sports\NBA 2K12. Don't know why that would be. Tool shouldn't be crashing because of this anyway, so I've fixed it and uploaded a new version (1.1.0.1).
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Re: Slimm44's 2k13 Roster for PC

Postby slimm44 on Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:38 am

Leftos wrote:You're missing a required registry value for whatever reason, the "Saves" value actually in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\2K Sports\NBA 2K12. Don't know why that would be. Tool shouldn't be crashing because of this anyway, so I've fixed it and uploaded a new version (1.1.0.1).


Thanks, I'll try it out.
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Re: Slimm44's 2k13 Roster for PC

Postby slimm44 on Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:15 am

@ Leftos - I tinkered with the program but don't have 2k12 installed anymore so I can't do anything with box scores. I was able to download and export the season stats from this season but only got team stats. For it to mine the stats and transfer it to ratings/tendencies, it would need:

Froom Hoopdata -
At Rim%
Close Range% (3-15 FT)
Mid Range%
3PT%
At Rim attempts per 40
Close shot attempts per 40
Mid Range attempts per 40
3PT attempts per 40

From BR -
Assist%
Offensive Rebound%
Defensive Rebound%
Block%
Steal%
Offensive Rating + Offensive Win Shares
Defensive Rating - Defensive Win Shares

If you could get it to do that? I'll probably dance a jig.
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Re: Slimm44's 2k13 Roster for PC

Postby Leftos on Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:50 am

Everything in the BR section besides WS is already there. Don't know why it only downloaded team stats. I grabbed them today, players had their stats there too. If you used the "Export" menu, that doesn't do much. It's pretty much obsolete. Use the Team, Player and League Overview to see its features, as well as Advanced Player Search.

It's a pretty old video, but showcases some of the stuff that's in there: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf4OTiSD ... el&list=UL

I'd need to implement the specific Hoop Data shot info though, specifically the separation between At Rim, Close and Mid Range field goals.
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Re: Slimm44's 2k13 Roster for PC

Postby slimm44 on Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:09 am

Leftos wrote:Everything in the BR section besides WS is already there. Don't know why it only downloaded team stats. I grabbed them today, players had their stats there too. If you used the "Export" menu, that doesn't do much. It's pretty much obsolete. Use the Team, Player and League Overview to see its features, as well as Advanced Player Search.

It's a pretty old video, but showcases some of the stuff that's in there: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf4OTiSD ... el&list=UL

I'd need to implement the specific Hoop Data shot info though, specifically the separation between At Rim, Close and Mid Range field goals.


I made a mistake as I was rushing, which is why I only saw team stats. I was able to find all stats, individual and team. Looks great!
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Re: Slimm44's 2k13 Roster for PC

Postby Kyrius on Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:25 am

I'm finally done incorporating my accessories in slimm44's roster. All shall have pressure shorts and none shall be wearing the normal sleeves.

It took me three days to get this done. Hopefully slimm44 will like it, and sorry for the one day delay. :mrgreen:

and now it's up to Mattan to fix the colors :)
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Re: Slimm44's 2k13 Roster for PC

Postby slimm44 on Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:30 am

Kyrius wrote:I'm finally done incorporating my accessories in slimm44's roster. All shall have pressure shorts and none shall be wearing the normal sleeves.

It took me three days to get this done. Hopefully slimm44 will like it. :) My head hurts from alt-tabbing 24/7. :mrgreen:


Thanks, Kyrius! Much appreciated. mlp111, are you ready to do the shoes?
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Re: Slimm44's 2k13 Roster for PC

Postby Kyrius on Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:35 am

Don't you want to see it first slimm? :) I'll send you the file now. Just uploading at the moment.

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Re: Slimm44's 2k13 Roster for PC

Postby slimm44 on Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:50 am

Kyrius wrote:Don't you want to see it first slimm? :) I'll send you the file now. Just uploading at the moment.

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I trust you, my man! Besides, I've seen some of the pics in your global thread. :wink: Thanks again for your work!
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Re: Slimm44's 2k13 Roster for PC

Postby Kyrius on Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:56 am

Alright! :) Goodluck with your roster! Just hit me up if you need more help :)
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Re: Slimm44's 2k13 Roster for PC

Postby apollokid on Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:43 pm

Could you maybe upload the roster for all of us somewhere? So at least we have good playbooks for all the team?
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Re: Slimm44's 2k13 Roster for PC

Postby slimm44 on Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:49 pm

apollokid wrote:Could you maybe upload the roster for all of us somewhere? So at least we have good playbooks for all the team?


The playbooks are not done being edited yet. I still have to do all the teams from the Jazz on. If you download the roster from the link in the first post, all teams were given a generic playbook where all plays are usuable. They're not team-specific, but they are better than the default rosters 2k used as the plays are not broken. It's going to be a few weeks before the Playbooks and Hot Spots are all done. They are very time-consuming edits.
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Re: Slimm44's 2k13 Roster for PC

Postby Onisak on Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:40 pm

Great to have you back Slimm44! (Y) (Y)
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Re: Slimm44's 2k13 Roster for PC

Postby Like A Boss on Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:29 pm

This will be one of the best Christmas present! :D
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Re: Slimm44's 2k13 Roster for PC

Postby Albys on Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:57 pm

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apollokid wrote:Could you maybe upload the roster for all of us somewhere? So at least we have good playbooks for all the team?


The playbooks are not done being edited yet. I still have to do all the teams from the Jazz on. If you download the roster from the link in the first post, all teams were given a generic playbook where all plays are usuable. They're not team-specific, but they are better than the default rosters 2k used as the plays are not broken. It's going to be a few weeks before the Playbooks and Hot Spots are all done. They are very time-consuming edits.


Oh yeah, this is the truth! :D
Put all real Vann's playbooks in game and edit tendencies players is a damned work...
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Re: Slimm44's 2k13 Roster for PC

Postby Medevenx on Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:59 pm

Albys wrote:
slimm44 wrote:
apollokid wrote:Could you maybe upload the roster for all of us somewhere? So at least we have good playbooks for all the team?


The playbooks are not done being edited yet. I still have to do all the teams from the Jazz on. If you download the roster from the link in the first post, all teams were given a generic playbook where all plays are usuable. They're not team-specific, but they are better than the default rosters 2k used as the plays are not broken. It's going to be a few weeks before the Playbooks and Hot Spots are all done. They are very time-consuming edits.


Oh yeah, this is the truth! :D
Put all real Vann's playbooks in game and edit tendencies players is a damned work...
Ciao bro Slimm! :wink:


Just asking, why don't you two join forces?
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Re: Slimm44's 2k13 Roster for PC

Postby Kyrius on Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:02 pm

Medevenx wrote:
Albys wrote:
slimm44 wrote:
apollokid wrote:Could you maybe upload the roster for all of us somewhere? So at least we have good playbooks for all the team?


The playbooks are not done being edited yet. I still have to do all the teams from the Jazz on. If you download the roster from the link in the first post, all teams were given a generic playbook where all plays are usuable. They're not team-specific, but they are better than the default rosters 2k used as the plays are not broken. It's going to be a few weeks before the Playbooks and Hot Spots are all done. They are very time-consuming edits.


Oh yeah, this is the truth! :D
Put all real Vann's playbooks in game and edit tendencies players is a damned work...
Ciao bro Slimm! :wink:


Just asking, why don't you two join forces?



So there can be varieties among rosters. Besides, Alby and slimm use different formulas when it comes to rating players. Not sure about Alby but I'll vouch for slimm.
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Re: Slimm44's 2k13 Roster for PC

Postby Like A Boss on Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:03 pm

Kyrius wrote:
Medevenx wrote:
Albys wrote:
slimm44 wrote:
apollokid wrote:Could you maybe upload the roster for all of us somewhere? So at least we have good playbooks for all the team?


The playbooks are not done being edited yet. I still have to do all the teams from the Jazz on. If you download the roster from the link in the first post, all teams were given a generic playbook where all plays are usuable. They're not team-specific, but they are better than the default rosters 2k used as the plays are not broken. It's going to be a few weeks before the Playbooks and Hot Spots are all done. They are very time-consuming edits.


Oh yeah, this is the truth! :D
Put all real Vann's playbooks in game and edit tendencies players is a damned work...
Ciao bro Slimm! :wink:


Just asking, why don't you two join forces?



Varieties.


That will be a big mess... first of all they use different formulas to calculate tendencies and ratings, however if they do produce a formula for the collaboration then why not?
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Re: Slimm44's 2k13 Roster for PC

Postby slimm44 on Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:27 pm

Alby's and I have had some discussion on a collaboration project. So far, we haven't been able to figure out how to do it. It's easier when there is one person contributing one aspect to the roster. However, we both edit pretty much everything the roster contains. Figuring out how to share evenly is somewhat difficult.

If you've never edited a roster from top to bottom, every rating/tendency/hot spot/playbook/coaching profile/etc, it's impossible to know how much time, energy, effort, and investment goes into it. It basically becomes a second job.

Hopefully, we can figure something out.
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Re: Slimm44's 2k13 Roster for PC

Postby Onisak on Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:33 pm

You are both masters of making roster patches. Maybe its best that we have two amazing rosters to choose from, since it really would be difficult to make the colaboration work because as you said you both have your own ways and you edit all by yourself... Big praise to both of you! (Y) (Y)
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Re: Slimm44's 2k13 Roster for PC

Postby Leftos on Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:14 am

Yeah, the edits slimm44 and Albys do collide, there's not much they could contribute to each other. They're editing the same stuff in different ways, so as I see it right now, it's better the way it is right now. More choice is always a good thing. Once REDitor comes out, maybe it'll be easier to copy over some edits that slimm44 doesn't really bother with, such as accessories and colors and shoes and whatever, if the rest of the community doesn't help him on them.

Although, as I said in Podcast #11, I'm really glad to see so many people not only excited with slimm44's work, but also willing to contribute.
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Re: Slimm44's 2k13 Roster for PC

Postby slimm44 on Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:17 am

Leftos wrote:Yeah, the edits slimm44 and Albys do collide, there's not much they could contribute to each other. They're editing the same stuff in different ways, so as I see it right now, it's better the way it is right now. More choice is always a good thing. Once REDitor comes out, maybe it'll be easier to copy over some edits that slimm44 doesn't really bother with, such as accessories and colors and shoes and whatever, if the rest of the community doesn't help him on them.

Although, as I said in Podcast #11, I'm really glad to see so many people not only excited with slimm44's work, but also willing to contribute.


It's been awesome to have people offer to help with accessories/colors/shoes. I simply don't do that stuff, but once it's done, it makes the game look MUCH better.

Update:

All of the Accessories have been updated and the file has been passed on so the shoes can be edited.
I've also edited the Hot Spots to make them realistic from Philly through Atlanta.
Playbooks are done from Philly through Miami.
Playtypes have been reassigned from Philly through Dallas.

Leftos, any luck on the Hot Zones? I saw you ran into some difficulties in your editor thread.
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Re: Slimm44's 2k13 Roster for PC

Postby M3r$uRy on Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:36 am

Don't rush anything slimm! Finish with all Playbooks,Playtypes and Hot Spots firstly and then release :D
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Re: Slimm44's 2k13 Roster for PC

Postby Leftos on Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:46 am

slimm44, no luck yet. They're either spread all over the Player Entry instead of a nice, contiguous area, or something else happens which makes them hard to research. Only someone with knowledge of their binary data in 2K12 could help right now the way I see it, or someone getting lucky with research.
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Re: Slimm44's 2k13 Roster for PC

Postby slimm44 on Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:49 am

@ M3r$uRy - Don't worry, I won't release a roster that doesn't have all teams edited evenly. I may not edit the ENTIRE roster file every release, but I won't release it with only some Playbooks done, etc.

@ Leftos - No problem. I can wait for REDitor to come out. It shouldn't be much longer.
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Re: Slimm44's 2k13 Roster for PC

Postby mmq on Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:54 am

Will you make your roster compatible with the latest online data (alternate and Xmas jerseys) ?
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Re: Slimm44's 2k13 Roster for PC

Postby slimm44 on Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:25 am

mmq wrote:Will you make your roster compatible with the latest online data (alternate and Xmas jerseys) ?

I don't know how to do that.
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Re: Slimm44's 2k13 Roster for PC

Postby Leftos on Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:28 am

slimm44, you'll be able once REDitor is out and you can change and add jersey assignments to teams.
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Re: Slimm44's 2k13 Roster for PC

Postby slimm44 on Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:39 am

Leftos wrote:slimm44, you'll be able once REDitor is out and you can change and add jersey assignments to teams.



Thank you. I am gong to go ahead and finish playbooks, play types, and hot spots before the shoe edits. Id rather have the gameplay as tight as possible before the shoes get done. The playbooks are an absolute gamechanger.
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Re: Slimm44's 2k13 Roster for PC

Postby mmq on Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:47 am

Thanks Leftos and Slimm. do you have an estimated release date? Christmas?
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Re: Slimm44's 2k13 Roster for PC

Postby slimm44 on Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:17 am

After Christmas. I'll be out of town for the next 5 days.
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Postby slimm44 on Fri Dec 21, 2012 3:01 pm

FYI - I got all players Play Types updated to reflect Vannwolfhawk's recommendations. I hope to get at least a few more team's playbooks done tomorrow before I leave town.
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Postby Like A Boss on Fri Dec 21, 2012 3:04 pm

slimm44 wrote:FYI - I got all players Play Types updated to reflect Vannwolfhawk's recommendations. I hope to get at least a few more team's playbooks done tomorrow before I leave town.


Slimm when will I fix the color accessories?
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Postby slimm44 on Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:08 am

Mattan wrote:
slimm44 wrote:FYI - I got all players Play Types updated to reflect Vannwolfhawk's recommendations. I hope to get at least a few more team's playbooks done tomorrow before I leave town.


Slimm when will I fix the color accessories?


How long do you think it will take?
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Postby DerBaba on Sat Dec 22, 2012 2:20 am

Thanks everyone for their great work!

What sliders should I use with slimm's roster?
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Re: Slimm44's 2k13 Roster for PC

Postby mmq on Sat Dec 22, 2012 3:05 am

slimm44 wrote:
Mattan wrote:
slimm44 wrote:FYI - I got all players Play Types updated to reflect Vannwolfhawk's recommendations. I hope to get at least a few more team's playbooks done tomorrow before I leave town.


Slimm when will I fix the color accessories?


How long do you think it will take?


I think this work takes 1 or 2 days more or less, but it depends of the free time that does Mattan have.

PS: Mattan, as I said in this thread, I have an excel sheet which have gear colors divided by arms and legs, headband and wristbands, jersey by jersey. This can't be 100% accurate, but it's helpful. If you are interested, tell me and i will translate it and send to you.
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Postby Medevenx on Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:18 pm

Why exactly are Kobe's Offensive and Defensive Awarenesses THAT low? That makes him worse than Gasol!
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Postby slimm44 on Sun Dec 23, 2012 11:19 pm

Medevenx wrote:Why exactly are Kobe's Offensive and Defensive Awarenesses THAT low? That makes him worse than Gasol!


The individual ratings that hurt his overall rating the most are Offensive Awareness and Defensive Awareness. These ratings affected the Overall Rating by a total of 18 points combined, or 9 points for each attribute. The way that I determine these ratings are by looking at a player's last 3 seasons and for Offensive Awareness, adding the average of Offensive Rating and Offensive Win Shares together. For Defensive Awareness, I take the average of Defensive Rating and subtract Defensive Win Shares from it. The scale that I use looks like this:

Offensive Awareness (Offensive Rating+Offensive Win Shares)

123 - 95
118 - 85
113 - 75
108 - 65
103 - 55
98 - 45
93 - 35
88 - 25

Defensive Awareness (Defensive Rating-Defensive Win Shares)

90 - 95
94 - 85
98 - 75
102 - 65
106 - 55
110 - 45
115 - 35
120 - 25

Kobe is a below-average on-ball and help defender. His Defensive Rating average of the past 3 seasons has been 105 and he has averaged 3 Defensive Win Shares per season. This gives him a Defensive Awareness Rating of 65.

He is an Isolation-based player, a volume-scorer, and has a low EFG% of 47% over the past 3 seasons. What that means is he takes a lot of low-percentage shots. His Offensive Rating average of the past 3 seasons has been 108 and he has averaged 5 Offensive Win Shares per season. This gives him an Offensive Awareness Rating of 75.

In his prime, which he is nowhere near, he had 8 out of 9 seasons where he would have had a 95 in Offensive Awareness. His career high for Defensive Awareness would have been a 75. He has always been highly overrated on the defensive end of the court.

Feel free to look at the Editing Guide in the first post. I explained why I use the scales I do, how I came to them and how they effect the sim-engine.
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Postby Leftos on Sun Dec 23, 2012 11:23 pm

Considering Player Progression and that I can no longer use stats to calculate ratings, how would I go about fixing the 3PT tendencies that grow too much in big guys starting with Season 2? Any ideas, slimm44?
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Postby Medevenx on Sun Dec 23, 2012 11:52 pm

I failed to read the exact same post you made in the first page sorry. I really appreciate you answering it properly and with understandable English. :)
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Re: Slimm44's 2k13 Roster for PC

Postby slimm44 on Mon Dec 24, 2012 12:34 am

Leftos wrote:Considering Player Progression and that I can no longer use stats to calculate ratings, how would I go about fixing the 3PT tendencies that grow too much in big guys starting with Season 2? Any ideas, slimm44?


The patch is supposed to fix that issue, but who knows when it will be released.

One way would be to copy all 4's and 5's into a spreadsheet, along with their 3PT Tendency. When you get into future years of Associations, simply copy/paste them into your Association file. I would think the only thing you would need to account for would be retirements. You could do the same thing for rookies as they get drafted.

What I've done with past 2k's is copy/paste ALL shooting/freelance tendencies for all players using the method I just mentioned. In real life, players' shot by location "tendencies" vary slightly, and it is almost entirely based on the role they have with their team/additional players added/signing with a new team.
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Postby Leftos on Mon Dec 24, 2012 12:51 am

Okay, so carry over 3PT tendencies from season to season. Got it.
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Postby slimm44 on Thu Dec 27, 2012 9:55 am

FYI - I have 5 more teams' playbooks to edit and they will all be done. I will release it when finished but will have a few more updates coming up quickly. The remaining edits include:

*In this order*

Accessory Colors (Done by Mattan - Big Thanks!) (1-2 days of Playbook Edits being done)
Freelance Tendencies (Should be released within 1-2 days of Accessory Colors being done)
Hot Spots (Will take at least another week, if not a few weeks if I still want to do them)
Hot Zones (Will probably wait for REDitor) (not sure how long this will take)

I do not plan on doing any player transactions until the Trade Deadline, so the players assigned to rosters will be as they were on the Opening Day roster.
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