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Re: Wayback Wednesday: Multiseason Play in NBA Live 99

Postby Andrew on Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:47 pm

That's a good suggestion for some future content here, so I'll definitely consider some more multi-part series for Wayback Wednesday, and maybe some spinoff features. :)
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Re: Wayback Wednesday: Franchise Mode in NBA Live 2000-2003

Postby Andrew on Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:44 pm

October 4th, 2017: Franchise Mode in NBA Live 2000-2003

With GM Mode, EA Sports had experimented with altering the traditional Season experience. The expanded Season mode in NBA Live 99, with its multiseason play and dynamic features, laid the foundation for an even deeper mode. Come NBA Live 2000, basketball gamers wouldn't have to wait any longer for a multiseason mode that replicated even more aspects of the real NBA season, including free agency and the rookie draft. Needless to say, it isn't as deep as its successors, but looking back, it's still impressive to see just how much EA were able to accomplish with that first iteration of Franchise Mode.

From NBA Live 2000 through NBA Live 2003, Franchise Mode was definitely the centrepiece of NBA Live's game modes, and the most popular. It was an extremely important development in basketball gaming, so let's take a look back...way back...
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Re: Wayback Wednesday: Dynasty Mode in NBA Live

Postby Andrew on Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:06 pm

October 11th, 2017: Dynasty Mode in NBA Live

Franchise Mode was one of the best additions in the NBA Live series, delivering a multiseason experience that gamers had been wanting for some time. By NBA Live 2003 however, it was unfortunately getting stale. Despite a few noteworthy new features and AI enhancements, the experience hadn't become much deeper over the course of four years. Franchise gamers still enjoyed the mode and it remained popular, but there was also a certain amount of frustration, as we wanted to see more innovation. Fortunately, by the time NBA Live 2004 rolled around, EA Sports were ready to deliver.

The introduction of Dynasty Mode in NBA Live 2004 was part of an effort to rebrand Franchise Mode throughout all EA Sports titles, but thankfully, it turned out to be much more than a name change. It marked the introduction of a deeper mode that continued to evolve through the years, until it too fell on some rough times. Let's take a look back...way back...
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Re: Wayback Wednesday: The Association in NBA 2K

Postby Andrew on Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:56 pm

October 18th, 2017: The Association in NBA 2K

While NBA Live was offering multiseason management modes in the form of Franchise and Dynasty, NBA 2K was also providing basketball gamers with its own take on the franchise experience. The franchise modes in both games have had their ups and downs, but the 2K series has done a very commendable job from year to year, in many cases implementing features that have yet to be seen in EA's game. For those of us who were mostly playing NBA Live back in the day, we looked on in envy as 2K implemented several of those much-desired features in its modes.

As of now, NBA 2K has featured the deepest and most advanced franchise modes in basketball gaming. For many years, that franchise experience went by the name of The Association, and it admirably paved the way for MyLEAGUE and MyGM in recent games. Let's take a look back...way back...
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Re: Wayback Wednesday: Michael Redd's What If in NBA Live 2003

Postby Andrew on Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:13 pm

October 25th, 2017: Michael Redd's What If in NBA Live 2003

There are a lot of reasons why it's fun to go back and play an old basketball video game. Even though our old favourites tend to be far surpassed by new titles, we can usually still find nostalgic enjoyment in the familiarity of the gameplay. It can be satisfying to dust off an old save file, and pick it up again for a while. Sometimes, it's interesting to just go through the rosters and be reminded of when a certain player was playing for a particular team. If you do that in NBA Live 2003 PC, you'll be reminded of when Michael Redd played for the Dallas Mavericks. Only, that never actually happened. Yet there he is, on the bench for the 2003 Mavs.

Did EA Sports mess up here? Was someone paying too much attention to those infamous Courtside Comedy cutscenes, and not enough to the default roster as it was being finalised? In truth, there's no error here; not at the time of the roster's creation, at any rate. Confused? Let's take a look back...way back...
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Re: Wayback Wednesday: Reconstructing Jordan's Bulls in NBA Live 2002

Postby Andrew on Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:09 pm

November 1st, 2017: Reconstructing Jordan's Bulls in NBA Live 2002

Even though it's definitely not the pinnacle of the series, NBA Live 2002 is a game that I find myself thinking about and returning to every now and again. As I've mentioned before, it's a game that I'm oddly nostalgic for, in large part because of a memorable Sacramento Kings Franchise that I finally gained closure on years later. Of course, I also had a less successful Franchise experience with the Utah Jazz, in which things got a little too wacky. As I previously remarked, if I wanted to shake things up and do something a little unusual, it might've been more fun to try to reconstruct Michael Jordan's championship-winning Chicago Bulls.

It's not too late to explore that idea, though. Just as I recreated my Kings Franchise to finish it off all these years later, I thought that it'd be fun to attempt to reconstruct the core of the Jordan-led Bulls teams. Not all of the key players from those squads are still active in NBA Live 2002, but more than a couple are available to acquire. Can it be done? Let's take a look back...way back...
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Re: Wayback Wednesday: Reconstructing Jordan's Bulls in NBA Live 2002

Postby Dee4Three on Fri Nov 03, 2017 1:28 am

You could have just tried to win with the Wizards, and pretend that the Wizards didn't take Brown didn't take Brown, instead taking Gasol. Also, his first year with the Wizards was disrupted by Jordan getting hurt. Always wondered what might have happened if he stayed healthy.
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Re: Wayback Wednesday: Reconstructing Jordan's Bulls in NBA Live 2002

Postby Andrew on Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:37 am

They were on course for the Playoffs. I don't think they'd have been contenders or anything, but they might've made a bit of noise.
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Re: Wayback Wednesday: NBA Live 2003's Elusive Post Move

Postby Andrew on Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:45 pm

November 8th, 2017: NBA Live 2003's Elusive Post Move

There's a distinct satisfaction that comes with mastering advanced moves in basketball video games. Whether it's pulling off the Dream Shake, or performing a beautiful combination of dribbling moves that leaves a defender stumbling, developing superior skills on the sticks is supremely satisfying. Sometimes, however, there's that one move that you're just never able to perform. You've seen it in trailers and other people's gameplay footage, but for whatever reason, you just can't perform the move yourself. Alternatively, it may be a contextual animation that very rarely triggers, even when you appear to do everything correctly.

For me, my white whale of basketball gaming is a post move that can be seen in the introduction video of NBA Live 2003. Try as I might, I've never been able to perform it in all the years that I've had the game (which is to say, since late 2002). What is this elusive post move? Let's take a look back...way back...
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Re: Wayback Wednesday: Revisiting NBA Jam Tournament Edition

Postby Andrew on Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:28 pm

November 15th, 2017: Revisiting NBA Jam Tournament Edition

When you talk about titles that older basketball gamers are nostalgic for, NBA Jam will invariably be one of the most popular games to come up. It basically set the standard for what came to be known as arcade basketball games, with its over-the-top, high-flying dunks, relaxed approach to the rules of the sport, and simple gameplay. The original NBA Jam was a hit in arcades and with its home ports, appealing to basketball enthusiasts and more casual fans alike. It's since spawned sequels, spiritual successors, and more than a couple of imitators with varying degrees of quality.

The original game is considered a classic and for good reason, but personally, I've always preferred its sequel, NBA Jam Tournament Edition. It's a game I looked back at in the second ever Wayback Wednesday feature, around this time two years ago. Back then, I provided a few off-the-cuff thoughts on the game over some footage I'd been sitting on for a few years. I enjoyed doing that and it was a fun way to start getting into creating some video content, but I've always wanted to revisit NBA Jam Tournament Edition with a more fleshed out retrospective. That's what I'm doing today, so let's take a look back...way back...
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Re: Wayback Wednesday: Dynamic Season in NBA Live 10

Postby Andrew on Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:37 pm

November 22nd, 2017: Dynamic Season in NBA Live 10

While I still consider the PC version of NBA Live 06 to be the last truly well-rounded instalment in the NBA Live series, NBA Live 10 has to be given its due. It holds up quite well, and EA Sports definitely should've continued to build on it rather than changing directions with NBA Elite 11. Had EA not elected to take that risk, the series might be in much better shape, and the landscape of basketball gaming would likely have been very different these past seven years. In addition to its mechanics and overall gameplay being very solid, NBA Live 10 also featured some innovative modes and concepts, including the one we're looking at today: Dynamic Season.

Dynamic Season was an effective way of implementing an idea that basketball gamers had wanted to see for some time, and it's something that EA Sports should definitely consider bringing back in future NBA Live games. Let's take a look back...way back...
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Re: Wayback Wednesday: Dynamic Season in NBA Live 10

Postby [Q] on Thu Nov 23, 2017 2:09 am

I had always found dynamic season to be a bit strange for my liking. Like you said people liked playing along during the season but it allowed you to get your own results and your own version of the season. The problem is that once to play too far ahead and enough time has passed isn't there a big difference between your game and real life? Especially in the standings and playoff seeding

I personally never played the mode
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Re: Wayback Wednesday: Dynamic Season in NBA Live 10

Postby Andrew on Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:28 am

[Q] wrote:The problem is that once to play too far ahead and enough time has passed isn't there a big difference between your game and real life? Especially in the standings and playoff seeding


That's the whole point, to create your own version of the 2010 season, mixing your own results with real NBA results. In other words, it's like playing a single season with the team or teams of your choice, and the results of the games you don't play are filled in for you. Only instead of the sim engine generating the results, they come from real NBA data. Using NBA Rewind, you could also go back and change results as well, to alter your version of the 2010 Season and Playoffs. It all gets merged together for custom standings, and ultimately, custom Playoffs brackets.

It wasn't about replicating all the results of the real season (though I suppose you could try to do that). Most likely, your influence would change things, perhaps drastically depending on how many games you played and replayed, and how many different teams you played/replayed games for. It was about playing your own 2010 season, but the rosters and ratings changed and updated according to real life (whereas they obviously don't in your usual season or franchise mode), and you could go back and replay games with data accurate as of that date.

So, for example, if you were playing with your favourite team and they made a couple of trades or a player got injured, you'd have to play with their new roster and current lineup moving forward. If you wanted to go back and play an earlier game you missed, the rosters from that point in time would be used (along with the Dynamic DNA data). It's kind of like the NBA Today feature in NBA 2K, except there was more of a mode around it, instead of just being exhibition games.
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Re: Wayback Wednesday: Lakers vs Celtics and the NBA Playoffs

Postby Andrew on Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:22 pm

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The rivalry between the Los Angeles Lakers and the Boston Celtics stretches back decades in NBA lore. It seems only fitting that as the latest chapter of their epic saga was drawing to a close in the late 1980s, Electronic Arts decided to name their new five-on-five basketball game after the rivalry that had produced so many memorable moments. A forerunner to the NBA Live series, Lakers vs Celtics and the NBA Playoffs was EA's first real effort to make a sim-oriented NBA title. Over the years, it's rightfully come to be considered a classic, introducing many features that have since become staples of basketball gaming. Let's take a look back...way back...


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Re: Wayback Wednesday: Lakers vs Celtics and the NBA Playoffs

Postby sticky-fingers on Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:15 pm

I played it on MegaDrive
it seems to be 100 years ago :crazyeyes: :roll: :cry:
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Re: Wayback Wednesday: Lakers vs Celtics and the NBA Playoffs

Postby Andrew on Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:07 am

Getting close to 30, at least. ;)
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Re: Wayback Wednesday: Lakers vs Celtics and the NBA Playoffs

Postby sticky-fingers on Sat Dec 02, 2017 6:09 am

at least :facepalm2:
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Re: Wayback Wednesday: Lakers vs Celtics and the NBA Playoffs

Postby dshay7 on Sat Dec 02, 2017 7:40 am

Man, I loved Lakers vs. Celtics!
I'm pretty old for a gamer...been playing basketball video games for about 35 years, starting with Dr. J vs Larry Bird on my dad's IBM Tandy 1000 PC. I loved that game. If you dunked just right, you could break the backboard. Then came along Jordan vs. Bird on PC, with far superior graphics. You could either go one on one and choose either MJ or Larry, or you could compete in the dunk contest or 3 point shoot out. That game was a blast! I vividly remember the dunk contest, and how well I thought they captured some of Jordan's dunks, especially for a game over 30 years old. At the time, it was pretty revolutionary.

Then in about 1989 I think, I got Lakers vs. Celtics and the NBA playoffs for PC. I spent that entire summer of '89 playing that game, and coming off a real-life Pistons Finals win in 89, they were a fun team to play with. Aside from Kareem and maybe Bird, all the players looked exactly the same, but it was really the first PC basketball game I remember playing that had legit 5 on 5 team play. I remember Dale Ellis being a killer from the 3 point line, and the pleasure you got any time one of your guys dunked on another player. The main thing that frustrated me about the game was the lack of stats, so I started tallying my stats on a notpad during gameplay. I'd pick a team, say the Lakers, and try to get a triple double with Magic. After every rebound, assist, score, etc, I'd pause the game and make a hash mark in my notebook for that player. Wasn't exactly condusive to the flow of the game, but it gave me the satisfaction of knowing what my stats were. Thank God we've come so far!

Thanks, Andrew, for bringing this game back to my mind.
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Re: Wayback Wednesday: Lakers vs Celtics and the NBA Playoffs

Postby Andrew on Sat Dec 02, 2017 10:16 am

You're welcome, glad you enjoyed the retrospective!

Great point about the stats. My cousin and I used to do that with NBA Jam Tournament Edition on PC; it did display the halftime and full time stats, but we'd copy them down and keep records of how many somersault dunks we managed to perform. It was tough in earlier games like Lakers vs. Celtics, though. As you noted, you had to do all of that yourself! Fortunately, stat tracking has become a lot better in the years since.

I do actually want to cover Jordan vs. Bird at some point. It's on the list. :)
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Re: Wayback Wednesday: Lakers vs Celtics and the NBA Playoffs

Postby [Q] on Sat Dec 02, 2017 10:47 am

Speaking of stats, I do miss user stats which would be fun to compare amongst your online friends.
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Re: Wayback Wednesday: Lakers vs Celtics and the NBA Playoffs

Postby Andrew on Sat Dec 02, 2017 11:07 am

Agreed.
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Re: Wayback Wednesday: Replay Editing in NBA Live 09

Postby Andrew on Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:34 pm

December 6th, 2017: Replay Editing in NBA Live 09

Instant replay is nothing new in sports video games. Bulls vs Lakers, the sequel to Lakers vs Celtics, introduced the feature to EA's original basketball series. Since then it's become a staple of the genre, one that we've used to re-watch our finest (or most frustrating) moments on the virtual hardwood. Although subsequent games have introduced welcome features such as multiple camera angles, the ability to manually trigger cinematic replays, and even video exporting functionality, not many games have had extensive replay editing tools. EA's Michael Jordan in Flight was an early title that did, but since then, it's generally been a rarity.

When the ability to save replays returned in NBA Live 09, EA Sports took things a step further and included replay editing tools, as well as sharing functionality. With some of the other improvements in NBA Live 09, such as the implementation of Dynamic DNA, it's a feature that is arguably somewhat overlooked. It's well worth revisiting however, so let's take a look back...way back...
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Re: Wayback Wednesday: Midweek Patch Report & Webmaster News

Postby Andrew on Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:33 pm

December 13th, 2017: Midweek Patch Report & Webmaster News

If you've been around the community for a long time or perhaps read some of my previous articles, you may know that I used to run a site called the NBA Live Domain before I took over the NLSC in August of 2001. It started out as a place for me to host my own patches for NBA Live, but after a while, I felt like branching out with feature articles and the like. I experimented with the odd opinion piece and even created a subsite dedicated to covering the real NBA, but the columns that stuck were the Midweek Patch Report, and Webmaster News.

Both were regular weekly columns that became fixtures of the NBA Live Domain until I closed the site in December 2001, in order to properly focus on updating and developing content for the NLSC. They were instrumental in my development as a content creator though, so join me today as I take a look back...way back...
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