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Postby bkbrown2 on Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:46 pm

Has anyone heard anything about what the pc specs are gonna look like for 2k13? I've looked for stuff and I can't find anything. I'm assuming they aren't going to be much different from 2k12 but I'm not sure. If anyone has an idea about what the specs will look like it would be greatly appriciated.
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Re: PC specs

Postby Rob Owen on Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:00 pm

I guess it's the same as last year, unless they will add some more Gig to the game that could affect the specs.
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Re: PC specs

Postby Patr1ck on Mon Sep 03, 2012 7:40 pm

Just make sure you have a strong dual core or more processor and at least 2 gb of ram and a mid range video card. 2k is cpu intensive. It will use the cpu more than the video card during gameplay, so you need a good one to run it at max detail.
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Re: PC specs

Postby Vlad2010 on Mon Sep 03, 2012 8:57 pm

Pdub wrote:Just make sure you have a strong dual core or more processor and at least 2 gb of ram and a mid range video card. 2k is cpu intensive. It will use the cpu more than the video card during gameplay, so you need a good one to run it at max detail.


With Dual Core CPU (even strong) the game will not give smooth 60 FPS (tested). Ideally, It needs a quad core CPU, any, the cheapest can be.
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Re: PC specs

Postby Patr1ck on Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:15 pm

If you have fast ram you can get smooth frames with a dual core. I had a core 2 duo e6750 @ 3.2 with 2 gb of ddr2@800 and an amd 4850 video card and was running 2k11 at 70 without anti aliasing.
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Re: PC specs

Postby Leftos on Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:26 pm

What Pdub said.
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Re: PC specs

Postby benji on Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:02 am

Pdub wrote:If you have fast ram you can get smooth frames with a dual core. I had a core 2 duo e6750 @ 3.2 with 2 gb of ddr2@800 and an amd 4850 video card and was running 2k11 at 70 without anti aliasing.

What resolution and settings...
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Re: PC specs

Postby Leftos on Tue Sep 04, 2012 6:05 am

Core 2 Duo E6750 @ 3.2 GHz, 4GB DDR2 800MHz, GeForce GTX 460, played NBA 2K12 and previous ones at a steady framerate of 60FPS on 1920x1080 with everything on High (maybe Crowd Detail at medium), V-Sync on and Triple Buffering forced on via D3DOverrider.

I'm quite surprised that Pdub and I both had the same CPU and overclock. Heh.
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Re: PC specs

Postby shorty_ubk on Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:11 am

My computer specs're: cpu: Amd phenom x3 2.8 ghz, 4 gb ddr2 800mhz ram, Sapphire Ati Radeon HD4830 1gb (2gb with ram overdrive) (my system's point 5,9 by Win7 64-bit) but still playing NBA 2k12 in 30-35 fps full settings + v-sync on, AAx8 but I playing skyrim in same computer with full settings, full AA and better graphics mod 45-55 even sometimes 60fps...:S I know it's a lil' bit out of topic but; if NBA 2k13 uses same specs, what'll be my fps?? :(
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Re: PC specs

Postby Patr1ck on Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:51 am

benji wrote:
Pdub wrote:If you have fast ram you can get smooth frames with a dual core. I had a core 2 duo e6750 @ 3.2 with 2 gb of ddr2@800 and an amd 4850 video card and was running 2k11 at 70 without anti aliasing.

What resolution and settings...


1920x1080, max settings, but no antialiasing. 1368x768 with 2x antialiasing. IIRC, with antialiasing maxed I was at the low 40's high 30's.
Leftos wrote:I'm quite surprised that Pdub and I both had the same CPU and overclock. Heh.

It was an easy one, though. Just set the ram to it's spec and it's oc'd. When I got 1066mhz ram and tried to push the limit of my motherboard is when everything died.
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Re: PC specs

Postby Lean on Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:37 am

I usually turn off the anti-aliasing from the game, but set it to maximum on nVidia's control panel.
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Re: PC specs

Postby benji on Thu Sep 06, 2012 7:04 pm

Pdub wrote:1920x1080, max settings, but no antialiasing.

I've had an e8400 which is better, same RAM speed and better video cards and barely get over 40. AA seems to make zero change in the benchmark.

Setting player models to medium pushes it to the numbers you guys are claiming.
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Re: PC specs

Postby Leftos on Thu Sep 06, 2012 7:26 pm

Meh. NBA 2K12 has been really weird about the system configurations it likes. People with monster systems like i7's and NVidia 6xx cards claim not to be able to achieve 60FPS steady.

So I get where you're coming from benji, and I don't know what could help.

I did get a steady 60FPS with the occasional hiccup (nothing too distracting) on my setup on 1080, everything high except crowd, but yeah, by your specs you should be getting it too.

Don't know what to tell you. Maybe NBA 2K13 will be more optimized. lawl

Are you running the 8400 at stock speed? Father has that one, it's 3GHz right? Game is really CPU heavy, barely used 30 percent of my GPU, but took the most out of my CPU. Tried O/Cing the CPU a bit, seeing if that makes a difference? Is anything else grabbing CPU time while 2K12 is open? You may want to close any CPU-heavy process that tries to steal from 2K12, or just switch 2K12's process to a higher priority.

Also, back on that previous setup of mine (e6750, 4GB DDR2 800, GTX460) I never played any non-DX10 games on Windows 7. I was getting worse performance and worse stutter overall in most games (2K12 was definitely one of those, annoyingly stuttery in Win7), so I kept a separate XP installation for that. After i upgraded, I moved to Win7 for everything.
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Re: PC specs

Postby shadowgrin on Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:33 pm

Stop downloading and running panda porn in the background while playing 2K benji.
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Re: PC specs

Postby benji on Fri Sep 07, 2012 12:24 am

Never!

Besides, that's what the laptop is for.
Leftos wrote:I did get a steady 60FPS with the occasional hiccup (nothing too distracting) on my setup on 1080, everything high except crowd, but yeah, by your specs you should be getting it too.

Well, as noted, I do when I kill the jersey physics and put the players medium.
Are you running the 8400 at stock speed? Father has that one, it's 3GHz right? Game is really CPU heavy, barely used 30 percent of my GPU, but took the most out of my CPU. Tried O/Cing the CPU a bit, seeing if that makes a difference? Is anything else grabbing CPU time while 2K12 is open? You may want to close any CPU-heavy process that tries to steal from 2K12, or just switch 2K12's process to a higher priority.

Also, back on that previous setup of mine (e6750, 4GB DDR2 800, GTX460) I never played any non-DX10 games on Windows 7. I was getting worse performance and worse stutter overall in most games (2K12 was definitely one of those, annoyingly stuttery in Win7), so I kept a separate XP installation for that. After i upgraded, I moved to Win7 for everything.

I am on stock out of laziness. But that should not really be a 30 fps difference between the bit worse 6750 overclocked. It would behoove 2K to fix the engine to actually use a GPU, would help them on the move to next gen I'm sure. (You'll rarely crack 40% on any kind of modern GPU. The game uses more to draw the menus than the actual game lol.) mmm legacy code.

I've run with and without anything else running many times on all these games over the years. On Vista 32-bit and 7 64-bit.

2K's engine has stuttering issues on hard drive access, you can see this on resource monitor or if you run something like utorrent with it it'll be worse. (2K and The Third (with SSAO on) are a couple games that seem to hate someone else using the hard drive at the same time.)

If they'd offload those jerseys to the GPU it seems like you could run this at 60fps on 8800GT or maybe earlier.
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Re: PC specs

Postby Patr1ck on Fri Sep 07, 2012 12:34 am

I've run with and without anything else running many times on all these games over the years. On Vista 32-bit and 7 64-bit.


Maybe that had something to do with it. I was on XP for some of 2K12 and the games before it.
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Re: PC specs

Postby benji on Fri Sep 07, 2012 12:43 am

VC should probably invest in a DX10+ executable. It'll let them run physics on GPUs and prep them for next gen.
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Re: PC specs

Postby Leftos on Fri Sep 07, 2012 12:58 am

benji, pretty much on point on 2K12 not liking other programs using the HDD. Noticed that as well. The CPU is also an obvious factor, since back on my E6750 it would use all of it, so any other program that fought for CPU time would cause stutter as well.

As for 2K optimizing the code for GPU usage and going for DX10, I'm all for what you're saying, but ain't expecting it to happen.
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Re: PC specs

Postby benji on Fri Sep 07, 2012 1:16 am

It seems to max out or come close to whatever CPU you throw at it. Just fills it up with cycles endlessly while the GPU sits there waiting to be told what it needs to draw. I wouldn't be surprised if it's intentionally written that way because of the consoles, and then they just expect PC's to brute force it.

To be fair, I am expecting them to live up to 2002 PC standards. I'm harsh like that though.

(I feel for the lone PC guy or whatever they have on it, somebody (maybe everybody) there wants to do better but doesn't have the resources.)
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Re: PC specs

Postby Alphasim on Fri Sep 07, 2012 3:09 pm

My average-at-best PC (Core i5 2.9 Ghz, 1GB Radeon 6770, 8 GB DDR3) runs 2K12 at 60-120 FPS with AA all the way up, so long I as play without VSync off. With it on, I get 29-40 FPS. That bugs me. Why for no like Vsync, computer? :?
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Re: PC specs

Postby Leftos on Fri Sep 07, 2012 4:49 pm

Your PC isn't average at best. I'm tired of hearing that from guys with i5 CPUs.

In any case, force Triple Buffering on via D3DOverrider while keeping VSync On in the game and you should get a much better framerate with no tearing.
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Re: PC specs

Postby Bnicolas13 on Sat Sep 08, 2012 5:03 am

I'm not sure where 2k12 essentially maxes out in terms of FPS (maybe it doesn't I get 240 FPS on MLB 2K12), but I'd have to confirm that its mostly CPU-intensive. I averaged 90-100 FPS with the specs below except a GTX 550 Ti, when I upgraded to a 570 in went up to an average around 110. A nice jump, but still shows that the CPU carried most of the load. That's with everything maxed out btw.
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Re: PC specs

Postby Taddis on Sat Sep 08, 2012 7:20 am

IF you have nvidia GPU its very useful to use adaptive vsync thorugh drivers settings instead regular vsync in game. Wont drop to 30 fps and uses less power overall. My laptop runs like 3-4 degrees cooler using that and fps is steady 60fps, even on most cutscenes with high settings and 4x antialiasing.
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Re: PC specs

Postby 2Kstealscash on Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:22 am

I refer you to my post from 2010, 2011 and 2012.
My N51vn-A1 hooked up to a Vh222h gets around 56 FPS with this config file.
More specifically 53 while inbounding, 48 taking the ball cross court, 54 passing cross court, 60 during dribble penetration in a half court set.
-I play with the 2K camera set to 8 and 5 with zoom on.
-for some odd reason my frame rate gets into the single digits for a second during the flashy intro when the 2k logo fills the screen
-It never drops below 39FPS. Gameplay is very smooth. Also I recently got an SSD for the notebook.

VIDEOSETTING_ADAPTERINDEX = 0
VIDEOSETTING_WIDTH = 1920
VIDEOSETTING_HEIGHT = 1080
VIDEOSETTING_COLORDEPTH = 32
VIDEOSETTING_VSYNC = 0
VIDEOSETTING_REFRESHRATE = 60
VIDEOSETTING_WINDOWMODE = 0
VIDEOSETTING_MSAA = 2
VIDEOSETTING_MSAAQUALITY = 0
VIDEOSETTING_MAXTEXTURESIZE = 4096
VIDEOSETTING_DEPTHOFFIELD = 1
VIDEOSETTING_FLOORREFLECTION = 1
VIDEOSETTING_PLAYERLOD = 0
VIDEOSETTING_STADIUMLOD = 1
VIDEOSETTING_CROWDDETAIL = 2
VIDEOSETTING_SHADERDETAIL = 1
VIDEOSETTING_SIDELINECHARACTER = 0
VIDEOSETTING_ANISOTROPICQUALITY = 2
VIDEOSETTING_PARTICLEFFECT = 2
VIDEOSETTING_FORCE_HDR_ON_INTEL_GPU = 0
MAIN_LOGICAL_THREAD = 1
GPU_LOGICAL_THREAD = 0
STALL_CPU_ON_END_FRAME = 0
LIMIT_FLIP_QUEUE_LENGTH = 2
LIMIT_FLIP_QUEUE_LENGTH_SLEEP = 0
STICKYKEY = 510
TOGGLEKEY = 62
FILTERKEY = 126
ACCESSIBILITYKEY_SAVED = 0
LANGUAGE = -482460772
WINDOW_X = 0
WINDOW_Y = 0
CLOTH_LOGICAL_THREAD_0 = 1
CLOTH_LOGICAL_THREAD_1 = 2
CLOTH_LOGICAL_THREAD_2 = -1
CLOTH_LOGICAL_THREAD_3 = -1

Like every year change CLOTH_LOGICAL_THREAD to the amount of CPU cores you have, GPU_LOGICAL_THREAD to amount of GPU's, and MAIN_LOGICAL_THREAD to CPU threads.

If you are still playing very smoothly after this I recommend you bump up VIDEOSETTING_MSAA and VIDEOSETTING_MSAAQUALITY as needed, with of course the resolution.

I actually don't have stuttering but I use D3Doverrider (http://www.4shared.com/rar/j54HcPsc/D3DOverrider.html) for tearing. As you can see the game is maxxed out besides for AA.

-I have all the latest mods excluding the ENB mods.

My system is equivalent to a i5 520m and a Nvidia GT 330m. Basically anybody with a decent CPU who also gets 6000+ in 3dmark06 should be able to play with at least these settings. The desktop equivalence to my setup is a Intel i3-530 and Nvidia GT 220.

-In most cases don't have physx enabled. (turning on PhysX/Havok might help people having problems if they have a weak CPU and solid GPU.)
-I think fast hard drives help in this game.
-Its a straight up port so anybody with comparable hardware to a XBox is fine.
-With the photomod I had to bump the res down to 1440x900 to get smooth gameplay.
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-Turn off antivirus, in my case bitdefender goes into automatic game mode.

currently I have a total of 2 or 3 one second stutters a game
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Re: PC specs

Postby homicide1550 on Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:06 pm

Leftos wrote:Your PC isn't average at best. I'm tired of hearing that from guys with i5 CPUs.

+1 here brother..

I'm only running 2K12 on an AMD Athlon 7750 2.7 GHz, 256mb 9500gt gddr3 & 2 GB RAM. Those specs Alphasim posted makes my PC look like crap. :oops:
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