3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

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3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby JaoSming on Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:04 am

This is a very basic tutorial and will not be covering the ins and outs of modeling and techniques. If any CF patchers would be gracious enough to share their techniques it would be much appreciated.

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FIrst off you need to download the following.

(if needed) Java - http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp

NBA2KX Mod Tool (2K12 Supported)

Blender 2.49b - http://download.blender.org/release/Blender2.49b/ (you want "blender-2.49b-windows.exe")

Python 2.6.2 - http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.6.2/

As you may have noticed, those are the old versions of Python and Blender. I was unable to get the import/export scripts working in the latest version of Blender and that Python version is what worked for me in 2K10. If anyone gets the newer versions working, please let me know.

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Install Python, and once that is finished install Blender. When Blender Is Installing it will ask you where you want to have stuff stored, either in appdata, the program directory, or some other place. For simplicity and accessibility, I chose the program directory (i.e program files). This choice will affect where you put the mod tool scripts.

After Blender is installed, extract the Mod Tool to a directory of your choosing. In that rar file there are two .py files called ble_n2km_export and ble_n2km_import. Copy those two .py files and place them in the Scripts folder for Blender. That location depends on where you installed the data during the Blender installation.

The Blender's Scripts Folder, (.blender/scripts) will be in either,
C:\Program Files\Blender Foundation\Blender\.blender\scripts
or it will be in,
for XP:
C:\Documents and Settings\Brendon\Application Data\\Blender Foundation\Blender\.blender\scripts
For Vista/Win7:
C:\Users\Brendon\AppData\Roaming\Blender Foundation\Blender\.blender\scripts

Once the py files are in the proper folder we can actually start playing with 3D Models.

The rest of this tutorial is copy and pasted from 2K10. The overall procedure is the same, but 2K12 courts don't look the same and the Mod Tool looks a bit different.


I will be using a court as an example (f005.iff)

With the 3D tool open find the model you want to open

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then click Export Res


save the n2km file somewhere and start up Blender

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you will see this block and a couple other of objects, we dont want those in there so press "A" to select all and press the "Delete" key to delete these objects.

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Click to confirm the delete.


Goto File Menu, Import, then Import N2KM.

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Find your exported "Res" file and import it

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your screen should look something like this

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notice the new thing on the left and right of the screen. The middle section is your viewport, you can zoom in and out with the scroll wheel, the middle button will orbit the view, and panning is done with Shift + Middle Click.

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You will notice that you cannot see the entire court, we need to edit the view properties to view it all.

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So edit the Clip End value to as high as it will go and you will see the maximum amount the program will allow you to see

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Now, similarly to Ebodit or the original EBO Editor you can select certain parts to edit. This can be done by expanding the NBA2KM menu on the left, or by simply right clicking the part you want to edit in the viewport.

I'm going to remove the charge circle lines.

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Now that we have them selected notice that we are in object mode...we can move stuff around in object mode but when we export, it will not save those changes. We need to get into Edit mode. So either click that object mode drop down and switch to edit mode or press TAB.

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Now that we are in edit mode, notice that the 3D faces are pink and the vertices are yellow, that means everything is selected right now. Since we dont want to edit the 3pt line and other things selected in this "part" we want to press "A" to deselect all. Once everything is deselected press "B" to select vertices. Select the Charge half circle with the box you create with your left button.

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Now, to move/rotate/scale objects we can do different gestures by clicking with the left mouse button and drawing something.

[list=][*]We can draw a straight line to initiate the move command.
[*]We can draw a half circle to initiate the rotate command.
[*]And we can draw a V to initiate the scale command.[/list]
For more gestures
http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Doc:M ... n/Gestures

So initiate the move command by drawing a straight line with the left mouse button and letting go of the button.

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Now that we are in the move command you can see that you are moving the selected vertices around. Moving them around like this is very imprecise and not ideal for most work. To help with keeping things organized you can lock the axis you are moving on and specifically tell the program how far you want to move the part.

To lock the axis, start moving in the direction you want to move and click the middle button. If you got the wrong Axis try orbiting a bit and middle click again. To move the vertices a specific distance just type in some numbers. Selecting specific axis' and dimensions work for scale and rotate commands as well.

If you mess up, you can press backspace to delete your numbers and you can retype them. Remember that you may have to input a negative value to move in the opposite direction.

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When you are finished editing your lines, press TAB to go back into Object Mode. Either right click to select then edit other parts or if you are finished goto File, Export, Export N2KM file. Save it and then go back to the 3D tool.

In the 3D tool, select your model again and on the top click Import Res. Select your N2KM file and then look at it in game. And you're done.


Those are the basics. For those that was TL;DR, tough, if you want to learn how to use this program to do 3D editing in 2K12 you need to at least read that.


Keyboard Shortcuts I know of:
    Select All: A
    Select Box: B
    Select Part for Editing: Right Click Part
    Toggle Edit mode: TAB
    Move Command: Draw Straight Line with left mouse button
    Rotate Command: Draw Semi Circle with left mouse button
    Scale Command: Draw V with left mouse button

REMEMBER. Never Delete or Add objects, we have to maintain file sizes.

ALSO. Know that stadiums and blacktop courts may take a while to load in blender. Possibly 10-15 minutes. Blender did not crash, it is just taking it's dear sweet time.

IF YOU ARE EDITING ARENAS - the first thing you should do when the parts load into blender is scale everything down by 0.01. Make sure you selected all the parts and that you are NOT in edit mode. It will help with the view properties issues.
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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby Lagoa on Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:34 am

Nice....try it and works great...

Jao, how change the lines/paint and colors with Blender....

Man, if this files works with EBO editor....i wanna be the most happy man of the world....lol :lol: :lol:
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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby JaoSming on Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:37 am

lol, sorry man nothing works with the EBO editor from 2K :P

Lines and Lane colors still have to be done this way viewtopic.php?f=144&t=82793
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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby handlez362 on Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:04 pm

JaoSming, Can you move the 3pt line , lanes and etc?
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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby tatlopuyo on Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:52 pm

sir jao what folder in the scripts should i put the nba py files?
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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby JaoSming on Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:23 pm

handlez362 wrote:JaoSming, Can you move the 3pt line , lanes and etc?

lines and wood positions are editable, but its just like editing the high res courts from 2k10, all the wood/logos/lanes are in 1 piece stuck together, so it's not as customizable as Live's ebo files or 2k10's _lo files which let us move logos and lane pieces individually

tatlopuyo wrote:sir jao what folder in the scripts should i put the nba py files?

just right in the scripts folder, you dont need to put them in a subfolder or make one.
if you downloaded the latest version of blender, I tried putting them in all those different folders and could not get the import/export to show up, which is why I linked to an old version of blender in this thread.
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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby tatlopuyo on Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:41 pm

i guess thats the problem im using the latest version of blender..
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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby Lagoa on Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:01 am

JaoSming wrote:lol, sorry man nothing works with the EBO editor from 2K :P

Lines and Lane colors still have to be done this way viewtopic.php?f=144&t=82793


But it´s nonsense Jao....

Without a color option in 3d Blender.... Edition courts with this fantastic tool is just about change lines on/off the court? I dont know how, but this one would be a color tool to editing without hex.

EBO editor is a poooooooor tool, and have color tools....i will work on in time....lol

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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby JaoSming on Sat Nov 19, 2011 7:27 am

Yea sorry man, color editing isnt done through this, strictly moving stuff and that's it.
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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby Lagoa on Sat Nov 19, 2011 8:10 am

JaoSming wrote:Yea sorry man, color editing isnt done through this, strictly moving stuff and that's it.


This is sad... =(

Thks for the info Jao... (y)
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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby ehlomint on Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:16 pm

We could really use a CYBERFACE tutorial...please!!!! :)
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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby JaoSming on Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:23 am

its the same process of export res, import into blender, edit, export from blender and then import res

as for how to properly sculpt and tips like that, I have no idea, maybe one of the CF makers will enlighten us
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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby Sixers85 on Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:22 am

mhh...I have downloaded the latest version of blender ( 2.6) but no result with import/export py files from mod tool
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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby JaoSming on Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:26 am

FIrst off you need to download the following.

(if needed) Java - http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp

NBA2KX Mod Tool (2K12 Supported)

Blender 2.49b - http://download.blender.org/release/Blender2.49b/ (you want "blender-2.49b-windows.exe")

Python 2.6.2 - http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.6.2/

As you may have noticed, those are the old versions of Python and Blender. I was unable to get the import/export scripts working in the latest version of Blender and that Python version is what worked for me in 2K10. If anyone gets the newer versions working, please let me know.
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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby Sixers85 on Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:30 am

yes,yes... :wink: I thought you referring to versions after 2.49 before 2.6

thanks as alwais jao
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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby JaoSming on Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:31 am

no problem, sorry we bounced between 2 threads at the same time
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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby Sixers85 on Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:42 am

mhh..for pyton..windowsx86 MSI installer? :wink:
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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby JaoSming on Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:51 am

yup
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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby Sixers85 on Sun Dec 04, 2011 7:19 am

mhhh, I read that in 2k12 the courts look different...but I don't see anything that help me

I se that, when I open a 2km texture in 2k12 ( this is toronto court)
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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby JaoSming on Sun Dec 04, 2011 12:07 pm

when you export the n2km file, hit the check boxes near the preview, dont export each individual model: 1, model: 2 etc
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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby Sixers85 on Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:23 am

yes, was this! thanks
but when i edit a courts, i have to pick all texture models? like 0-1-2...? or one change all?
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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby JaoSming on Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:15 am

pick all, you can pick individual ones as well
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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby Maximus89 on Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:06 am

Can you only edit in blender with those lines? I can't see or tell wth is going on. I've seen videos of people scultping/editing the model as a solid peice instead of all those lines. How do i do that? Only thing im really trying to do is edit the ears and nose shape and maybe round out the jaw line more....

Also i've seen people edit like one side of the face and then it auto edits the other side the exact same way. I read some things that say mirroring is F9 but that doesn't work..
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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby TGsoGood on Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:33 am

where it says object you would select sculpt mode, I think
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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby JaoSming on Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:33 am

tbh, i dont know, I just do courts and stadiums
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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby Maximus89 on Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:09 pm

forget it, i give up with blender. If anyone knows how to get 3ds max working with 2kmodtool let me know please.
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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby chingstah on Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:15 pm

sculpt mode, then in sculpting options select x-symmetry. this lets you create a both sides of the face while only working on one.
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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby Mythbuster on Sat Dec 17, 2011 8:51 pm

All I see is this after importing, don't know how to make the court appear. maybe video tutorial will do better?

JaoSming wrote:your screen should look something like this

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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby JaoSming on Sat Dec 17, 2011 8:56 pm

Video tutorials are something I am thinking of doing, but what is your issue with that step? is nothing showing up? Did you change the view settings? Did you try panning around?

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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby Mythbuster on Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:34 pm

Sorry it was my mistake, I forgot to pan around LOL. Thanks for the tutorial (Y)
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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby JaoSming on Sun Dec 18, 2011 11:52 pm

phew, glad it was something simple. Can't wait to see what you produce (Y) (Y)
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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby cjs007 on Fri Dec 23, 2011 1:21 pm

I cant get this to work..

OK....I got it.......... (Y)
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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby JaoSming on Fri Dec 23, 2011 8:55 pm

again, glad to see it works
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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby Lagoa on Sat Dec 24, 2011 1:25 am

hey guys,

I try to edit Heat "AA Arena logo" but if i change his position in blender, in game floor is changed too...

Any form to change logos, small logos and arenas logo on the court without change the floor textures?
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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby cjs007 on Sat Dec 24, 2011 5:03 am

I got the courts OK..

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But can't get the stadiums........ :(

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I don't know if i should select all the parts on the right 1-7?
By just selecting 014567 i got this......just don't know what it is......

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I'm looking for the backboards......

OK I found them......you really have to scroll out and pan alot to find them........

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now its time to make the new sixers board........
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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby JaoSming on Sat Dec 24, 2011 8:56 am

Lagoa wrote:hey guys,

I try to edit Heat "AA Arena logo" but if i change his position in blender, in game floor is changed too...

Any form to change logos, small logos and arenas logo on the court without change the floor textures?


the logos are a part of the floor, they cannot be moved without the floor

cjs007, if you select a part in the mod tool, and the entire preview disappears, deselect that part and only export the stuff you can see.
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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby cjs007 on Sat Dec 24, 2011 1:08 pm

I have the Jazz board here........How can i put it into the sixers arena?

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after i get it into the sixers arena i will try to widen the front top pad piece.....so it will look like this......

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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby JaoSming on Sat Dec 24, 2011 8:31 pm

you could attempt simple importing that n2km into the s000 file, but if its not the same size it wont work. You'll then have to attempt modifying the base 76ers backboard to look like the Jazz one
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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby T1Mac on Fri Jan 06, 2012 11:08 am

First thanks for the tutorial, it's so easy and good :)

I followed all the steps but now I've got a problem, When I put the new 3D texture with the NBA2Kxmod tool it looks...See it xD

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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby JaoSming on Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:23 pm

import all data, not just the xyz, or try the xyz instead of all data
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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby T1Mac on Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:33 pm

JaoSming wrote:import all data, not just the xyz, or try the xyz instead of all data



I tried the 2 ways but the same result :S

Thanks too

more ideas?¿
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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby cjs007 on Fri Jan 06, 2012 1:58 pm

Which tool is making you keep the same file size?

Is there a tool out there that can let you add or delete things?
so the file sizes can be different?

See i deleted the cameras on the backboards for starters....i don't like the look of them...
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So i can change the backboards..
Just moving things won't work...
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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby JaoSming on Fri Jan 06, 2012 2:26 pm

gotta maintain filesize. Just move the cameras high above the arena ceiling out of view, behind grandstands or shrink them and hide them inside the frame of the backboard.

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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby cjs007 on Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:24 am

JaoSming wrote:gotta maintain filesize. Just move the cameras high above the arena ceiling out of view, behind grandstands or shrink them and hide them inside the frame of the backboard.

T1Mac, I dont know



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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby Retroswald13 on Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:01 am

hey sirs... i can only download 2.7 python.. is there anyone to give me the exact download link 4 python?
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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby JaoSming on Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:25 am

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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby Pooh on Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:26 am

64 Bit?
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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby JaoSming on Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:32 am

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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby heezy2k on Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:00 am

Can someone please tell me how I can get the .n2km thing on the "import" list??? cause its not there :( :( :( (N)
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Re: 3D Editing: Getting Started with Blender

Postby JaoSming on Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:26 am

make sure you are using the 2.49 version of blender, make sure you put the .py files in the correct folders.
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