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Re: Ultimate B Roster V18 RLSD [252 Teams/20 New] + 2013 ROO

Postby eggie25 on Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:42 am

Hey Hawk. how is it going? thanks for all the hard work you put in. Do you think that when 2k13 comes out, you will be able to transfer a lot of this work over (mainly the cyberfaces)? it came to mind, and i didn't really know who to ask other than you. also, still no luck finding a Herold Miner CF?

On a side note, David Wesley played as an undersized SG on the Hornets, as Baron Davis played the PG
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Re: Ultimate B Roster V18 RLSD [252 Teams/20 New] + 2013 ROO

Postby JaoSming on Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:50 am

FYI, 01-02 Celtics have a current Cavs crowd.

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Re: Ultimate B Roster V18 RLSD [252 Teams/20 New] + 2013 ROO

Postby hxt on Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:47 am

wow, this is great with 2013 rookies!! :applaud: U can make NBA 2K13 by yourself!! :D :D Thanks for your hardworking!! (Y) (Y)
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Re: Ultimate B Roster V18 RLSD [252 Teams/20 New] + 2013 ROO

Postby HAWK23 on Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:31 pm

hxt - thanks

Jao - I'll add it to the list... that's an easy fix
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Re: Ultimate B Roster V18 RLSD [252 Teams/20 New] + 2013 ROO

Postby HAWK23 on Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:33 pm

eggie25 wrote:Hey Hawk. how is it going? thanks for all the hard work you put in. Do you think that when 2k13 comes out, you will be able to transfer a lot of this work over (mainly the cyberfaces)? it came to mind, and i didn't really know who to ask other than you. also, still no luck finding a Herold Miner CF?

On a side note, David Wesley played as an undersized SG on the Hornets, as Baron Davis played the PG


No Miner CF... someone has to make one... I don't know how to do it.

Not sure what may be transferable to NBA2K13... odds are things will have to be converted again as they were this year

I'll fix Davis/Wesley... I thought I had them correctly changed in the lineup... perhaps I didn't
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Re: Ultimate B Roster V18 RLSD [252 Teams/20 New] + 2013 ROO

Postby MJALLDAY on Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:46 pm

Hawk, Kendick Perkins on the 07-08 Celtics has a really fat body. It's an easy fix without reditor, you can just lower his weight to 279 lbs and he'll change to the correct body type then you can change his weight back to 280 and he'll keep the correct body type.
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Re: Ultimate B Roster V18 RLSD [252 Teams/20 New] + 2013 ROO

Postby sotosfrancy on Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:18 pm

Hello everybody, Hawk and the rest of the contributors thank you for another great update.
I just wanted to make some suggestions. I think Oliver Miller's body, in all of its versions (92-93 Suns, 99-00 Suns) is much leaner than it should be. He was one of the fattest players of its era. You could also change Grant Hill's CF in the 96-97 Pistons, because I think he had the goatee look back then. In 97-98 season mod there is a perfect CF for Grant Hill of that age. One more thing, I do not know if you could make a better CF for 94-95 Spurs' David Robinson, because the existing is OK for the old and injured David Robinson of the 97-98, 98-99 and 02-03 Spurs but not for the 94-95 Spurs. He used to be more lean and muscular and he did not have a short beard, just a mustache.
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Re: Ultimate B Roster V18 RLSD [252 Teams/20 New] + 2013 ROO

Postby Magic Tmac1 on Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:33 pm

Thank you very very much Hawk!!!!!!!!! This is the perfect game, I don't think that I will play Nba 2k13 in October instead of this excellent work!!! Thank you again!!!!!!
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Re: Ultimate B Roster V18 RLSD [252 Teams/20 New] + 2013 ROO

Postby farukreyiz on Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:43 pm

hawk i really appreciate your great work. but i was really surprised when i saw rodney rodgers on 2002 celtics. if i were you i would go with joe johnson. additionally, kedrick brown is sf/sg. not pg.
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Re: Ultimate B Roster V18 RLSD [252 Teams/20 New] + 2013 ROO

Postby nuhmete on Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:53 pm

farukreyiz wrote:hawk i really appreciate your great work. but i was really surprised when i saw rodney rodgers on 2002 celtics. if i were you i would go with joe johnson. additionally, kedrick brown is sf/sg. not pg.

Joe Johnson was traded in February and did NOT play in the playoffs. What's the point in having him instead of Rodney?

February 20, 2002
Traded Randy Brown, Joe Johnson, Milt Palacio and a 2002 1st round draft pick (Casey Jacobsen) to the Phoenix Suns for Tony Delk and Rodney Rogers.


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Re: Ultimate B Roster V18 RLSD [252 Teams/20 New] + 2013 ROO

Postby HAWK23 on Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:30 pm

sotosfrancy wrote:Hello everybody, Hawk and the rest of the contributors thank you for another great update.
I just wanted to make some suggestions. I think Oliver Miller's body, in all of its versions (92-93 Suns, 99-00 Suns) is much leaner than it should be. He was one of the fattest players of its era.


I know... I've known about this for a while... but everytime I change his body type to "fat" like it should be, he has a glitchy shorts issue...



Magic-Tmac - thank you man
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Re: Ultimate B Roster V18 RLSD [252 Teams/20 New] + 2013 ROO

Postby HAWK23 on Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:30 pm

Potential V19 updates:

Crashing Issues:
None at this time

Team Adds:
*1998-1999 Houston Rockets [Completed by Sevin0Seven] - if room allows

Coach Adds/Edits/Updates:
None at this time

Logo Adds:
None at this time

Jersey Adds/Updates
Image*Edit 92-93 Clippers jerseys to "90's length"

Court Adds/Updates:
None at this time

Cyberface Adds/Edits:
*I believe Brenzon had mentioned there may be a few year-specific CFs from the 98-99 mod that would be more accurate to use
*Look to see if the 98-99 Mod has a better Bimbo Coles cyberface (94 Heat)
*Look to see if the 97-98 Mod has a better Grant Hill cyberface (97 Pistons)
*Look to see if there is a better/younger David Robinson cyberface (92 Dream Team / 95 Spurs)
*Add older Larry Bird CF (92 Dream Team / 92 Celtics)

Portrait Adds/Edits/Updates:
Image*Remove portrait from Frank Johnson (88 Bullets&93 Suns) and give that portrait to Mark West (got the two of them mixed up)

Tweak random Cs/PFs/SFs/SGs that handle the ball up the court like a PG:
*Andre Drummond (2012-2013 Rookie)
*Luc Longely (95-96 Bulls)
*Bill Wennington (95-96 Bulls)
*Nenad Krstic (05-06 Nets)
*Predrag Drobnjak (01-02 Sonics)
*Adonal Foyle (06-07 Warriors)

Tweak following player tendencies/hot zones:
None at this time

Signature Animation Edits:
None at this time

Other:
*Look into changing Charles Barkley's body type
XLook into changing Oliver Miller's body type - can't do it (just tried) - shorts glitch issue when I attempt this
Image*Fixed 01-02 Boston Celtics crowd
Image*Fixed Kendrick Perkin's body type (08 Celtics)
Image*Edited Pete Maravich's accessories (80 Celtics)
Image*Edited David Wesley and Baron Davis on the 01-02 Hornets. Make Davis the PG and Wesley the SG
Image*Edited "Draft Class 2012 Rookies" team name to "Draft Class 2012-2013 Rookies"
Image*Edited All-Time Sonics Russell Westbrook for more accuracy
Image*Edited Dave Cowens's height to 6ft 9in (74/76/80 Celtics)
Image*Edited Chris Webber to give him a headband (05-06 76ers)
Image*Edited Rasheed Wallace to give him a headband (99-00 Blazers)
Image*Edited Scottie Pippen to remove his headband (99-00 Blazers)
Image*Edited Matt Barnes and remove his arm sleeve (05-06 76ers)
Image*Edited Kendrick Brown to make him a SF/SG (02 Celtics)
Image*Fixed multiple player heights on the 47 Stags, 47 Warriors, 48 Bullets, 56 Warriors, and 76 Suns (there were players off by 1 inch for some reason)
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Re: Ultimate B Roster V18 RLSD [252 Teams/20 New] + 2013 ROO

Postby ChrisBrodbeck on Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:17 pm

Awesome V18!!!!

So now its time to tweak,add and correct stuff, right?

Thanks to JaoSmings tutorial videos, I can do some basic modeling and editing in blender, but I keep running into errors sometimes when I try to re-import with the modtool, so I won't promise anything.

With that said, I will ok into fixing some jerseys, and if Hawk wants to, I will do the "adding jerseys to teams" work for the alltime teams. I think I could do that and Hawk could just copy/paste the jersey tab in Reditor once I'm done! If I need to know something to make the teams work in association and stuff while I edit the jersey tab, please let me know.

The cyberfaces I mentioned from the 98/99 mod:

younger Brent Barry png0550 for 01/02 Sonics (CF needs some work, will edit if possible)

different Derrick Coleman png1534 for 92 Nets (I also could just make the current CF darker, because some people mentioned this)

young Ricky Davis (no Dreads) png1337

young Brad Miller png0497

young Larry Hughes (dreads) png1049

curly hair Rick Fox png1341 for all the post 2000 Laker teams

young Chauncey Billups png0413

Goatee Vince Carter png0110 for the 99 Raptors, looks alot like him back at the 2000 slamdunk contest


I would also like to suggest the following tweaks:

- put a headband on 99/00 Rasheed Wallace

- remove headband from 99/00 Scottie Pippen (I know he had a headband on for some games during that season but a.) he didn't wear one in the playoffs and b.) his headshape and haircut overlay 90% of the headband anyway)

- somebody made a young Doug Christie CF a couple of versions ago (with hear) for the Raptor teams, but he still has the bald face right now on both Raptors teams
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Re: Ultimate B Roster V18 RLSD [252 Teams/20 New] + 2013 ROO

Postby JaoSming on Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:18 pm

ChrisBrodbeck wrote:Thanks to JaoSmings tutorial videos, I can do some basic modeling and editing in blender, but I ke running into errors sometimes when I try t re-import with the modtool, so I won't promise anything.

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Re: Ultimate B Roster V18 RLSD [252 Teams/20 New] + 2013 ROO

Postby HAWK23 on Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:21 pm

Brenzon... please do not "add jerseys to teams".... I know how to do this as well... the problem is it takes up too much space... so please do not do this.
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Re: Ultimate B Roster V18 RLSD [252 Teams/20 New] + 2013 ROO

Postby ChrisBrodbeck on Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:25 pm

Once I tried to remove Kurt Rambis's glasses to make a young Sabonis CF, I highlight the glasses (It was one of the layers or how ever the parts are called in blender) deleted it, exported it, loaded up the modtool, import, some error (out of range something).

Another one, I wanted to copy the Kobe 90's afro to Dave Bing's CF, but I dont know how to copy over a part from one texture to another...haven't figured that out yet.

Other then that, I just try to move stuff around...


@Hawk okay, wont do
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Re: Ultimate B Roster V18 RLSD [252 Teams/20 New] + 2013 ROO

Postby oldtimer62 on Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:33 pm

To all of the contributors to this great project, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!! I know that I will still be playing this for years to come. I have one request / suggestion. I know that space is becoming very scarce to add additional teams and that everyone has their own favorite teams and eras that they like to play. So could future teams be released as TMM files. This way rather than have the 65Hawks in the roster or the 53 Knicks (both of which I would love to play but most people here would not consider as being fun) they could choose not to load them and load a more recent team if that was their desire. I would also keep alive contributors who wish to make additional teams like the ABA team project. This is just as suggestion and again I would like to thank all of the contributors who have made this game so great.
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Re: Ultimate B Roster V18 RLSD [252 Teams/20 New] + 2013 ROO

Postby HAWK23 on Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:39 pm

Old Timer - I would be fine with including .TMM files from here on out for those people who want to load teams... there is only 1 space available for loading teams and that will never disappear... I will never use those 15 roster spaces within the roster file (even though they are blank) so that people can load their own team.

The problem is people send me .TMM files or .ROS files with players that are not updated on the teams... player ages are wrong, or attributes/ratings are incorrect. What people do is they just go to the "create-a-team" menu create a team by adding all of the players from the team (I mean you could make almost any team with the pool of players available in the Ultimate Base Roster) then they send them to me without ever tweaking them. Of course even I could do that in 30 seconds... so they send me this crappy team that myself or Nuhmete ends up needing to basically re-make the whole thing from scratch.
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Re: Ultimate B Roster V18 RLSD [252 Teams/20 New] + 2013 ROO

Postby ChrisBrodbeck on Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:40 pm

Haha, there it is again:

I just tried to clean up the Brent Barry CF...

I deleted one layer, the front hair, tweaked the other hair a little so it covers his forhead, export, import in modtool and:

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Re: Ultimate B Roster V18 RLSD [252 Teams/20 New] + 2013 ROO

Postby HAWK23 on Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:41 pm

Brenzon thanks for the great post above - that's exactly the type of stuff I'm looking for... updated/better cyberfaces and mention what team that player should have that cyberface for.

As for Doug Christie... I vaguely remember having a cyberface for him with hair too, but I must have accidently overwritten it somewhere along the way... if you happen to have it send it to me. I'll look in my old files too.
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Re: Ultimate B Roster V18 RLSD [252 Teams/20 New] + 2013 ROO

Postby JaoSming on Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:50 pm

ChrisBrodbeck, you can't add or delete anything, if you want to get rid of the glasses, scale them down really small and hide them in his head

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Re: Ultimate B Roster V18 RLSD [252 Teams/20 New] + 2013 ROO

Postby HAWK23 on Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:50 pm

Brenzon... look at the 92-93 Coleman and the 96-97 Coleman.

I have actually been using these 2 different CFs intentionally... the 92-93 one looks a bit younger... but I could just change them both to the 96-97 one... it doesn't matter to me.
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Re: Ultimate B Roster V18 RLSD [252 Teams/20 New] + 2013 ROO

Postby HAWK23 on Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:52 pm

Potential V19 changes at bottom of page
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Re: Ultimate B Roster V18 RLSD [252 Teams/20 New] + 2013 ROO

Postby HAWK23 on Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:59 pm

HAWK23 wrote:Brenzon thanks for the great post above - that's exactly the type of stuff I'm looking for... updated/better cyberfaces and mention what team that player should have that cyberface for.

As for Doug Christie... I vaguely remember having a cyberface for him with hair too, but I must have accidently overwritten it somewhere along the way... if you happen to have it send it to me. I'll look in my old files too.


Nevermind - I found the Doug Christie with hair on the 94-95 Knicks
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Postby ChrisBrodbeck on Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:21 am

JaoSming wrote:ChrisBrodbeck, you can't add or delete anything, if you want to get rid of the glasses, scale them down really small and hide them in his head

and don't copy afros from one player to another, you have to custom make it with the models provided, or take the model with the hair you need and change the face.



Okay thanks, I'm not sure if I can create stuff in blender on my own just yet, will try though! And thanks for the scaling tip!!!

Another quick question Jao: Do you know, which net-framework I need to make the 2k10 jersey editor work? I ask because I need to re-set the position of some nba logos on some jerseys

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HAWK23 wrote:Brenzon thanks for the great post above - that's exactly the type of stuff I'm looking for... updated/better cyberfaces and mention what team that player should have that cyberface for.

As for Doug Christie... I vaguely remember having a cyberface for him with hair too, but I must have accidently overwritten it somewhere along the way... if you happen to have it send it to me. I'll look in my old files too.


Nevermind - I found the Doug Christie with hair on the 94-95 Knicks


NICE!!! If I find more stuff to use, I'll let you know, I believe in one of the mods, there are clippers jerseys fitting for your 92/93 clippers! I think I saw them either in the 97/98 or 98/99 mod!

As far as the Coleman thing goes: It's your mod and your call to make, I just remembered some people mentioned he (92) is too white looking...

I'll get back to cleaning the CF once I improved my blender skills! :D For now, I'm off to clean up some jerseys!
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Re: Ultimate B Roster V18 RLSD [252 Teams/20 New] + 2013 ROO

Postby DUNCANISGOOD on Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:34 am

SIR~I can't download your masterpiece!!!
The website just shows"403 - Forbidden"!! :bowdown: :bowdown2:
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Postby MJALLDAY on Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:12 am

Sweet! You got an older Larry Bird Cyberface. Don't forget to use it for the Pacers head coach version of Bird.
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Postby ChrisBrodbeck on Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:23 am

Okay guys, I made a new young Derrick Coleman:

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its the one on the left! Same skintone as the late 90's version, but different headshape and textures!

LINK: http://www.mediafire.com/?2hwqbiq442q41pz


Also, I worked through the whole list of jerseys I compiled for likeaboss, and cleaned up ALL jerseys! :cheeky:

No more golden Logos on top of regular logos, no more double logos....

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I looked through the jerseys now once or twice, but if you guys still find jerseys with mistakes (after replacing the fixed ones offcourse), let me know!

NOTE: There are still some jerseys left that have the logo on the right shoulder instead of the left one...once I figure out how to change this via modtool and switching iff files I'll do that too!
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Re: Ultimate B Roster V18 RLSD [252 Teams/20 New] + 2013 ROO

Postby sevin0seven on Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:30 am

^great work on Derrick Colemon. the Colemon on the right can look like Sharone Wright with a few minor fix to it....and Sharone needs a CF. :wink:
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Re: Ultimate B Roster V18 RLSD [252 Teams/20 New] + 2013 ROO

Postby JaoSming on Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:36 am

ChrisBrodbeck wrote:Another quick question Jao: Do you know, which net-framework I need to make the 2k10 jersey editor work? I ask because I need to re-set the position of some nba logos on some jerseys

The 2K10 Jersey tool does not work moving numbers or logos for 2k11 or 2k12, you gotta find a base uniform that has everything in the right place and size first, then import your textures into it.
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Postby aaron91 on Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:06 am

Hawk my posts have never been meant as criticisms, merely suggestions to make the mod more comprehensive. I wouldn't have donated $25 if I didnt think this was an outstanding project. However if you disagree with the content of my ideas I fully understand as this is your mod. Id like to thank you again for all the personal hours you have put into creating this essentially for free (donations aside) for all of us to enjoy.
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Postby jonhpipepipe on Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:53 am

Just for knowledge, if teams creation are done... or very close to, what comes to my mind is a big jersey udpate, don't you think about it guys?

I talked to some jersey creators about making jerseys, but they (the jerseys) gotta be at least compatible to the UBR... if the answer is no (we won't have a jersey update, because of space issues), i think we should make this "new jersey" updates and substitute the usual ones whenever we need. Like a replaceable file, in other words like a compatible jersey.

If you want for example an Utah "different green jersey" (that could be a fictional, alternate or original one, don't matter), you just gotta substitute the usual UBR Utah green jersey by this new one.

I made a long list with my old jerseys and a lot of options... i'll send this list to jerseys creators, but we got to find a way to make those creations compatible and playable to the UBR project at some point, cause at this point, at this level, if we don't have a big collection of jerseys (any type of them), we are losing a great chance to improve this excelent project to perfection.

Any other issue about this project is handle right now, we have almost all great courts, all great players, all great teams, all great stuff (like dornas, scores, shoes, add ons, etc, etc, etc...). As i saw, guys are worried about the last details about players faces, bodies and little things, i completely understand everything you do, but two points are a little behind:

A big package of jerseys (almost like the old UTP Project joining the UBR Project) &...

A list of basketball classic songs that will replace some of the new ones, like:
1) NBA Official Basketball Pump Up Song;
2) Alan Parson'S Project - Sirius (The Chicago Bulls Intro);
3) Jock Jams - The Hey Song / Everybody dance now / Na Na Na Hey Hey Goodbye / Lets Get Ready To Rumble;
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5) Blackbox - Ride on Time / Strike it up / Everybody Everybody;
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12) Space Jam & I Belive I Can Fly.

Kurtis Blow (basketball) and NBA 2K12 Sountrack "Fast Lane" - Bad Meets Evil ft. Eminem and Royce Da 5'9, must both remain untouched.

P.S. First i have all those songs, and second... Clever suggestions are never enough.
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Re: Ultimate B Roster V18 RLSD [252 Teams/20 New] + 2013 ROO

Postby JaoSming on Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:00 am

HAWK's already mentioned that adding uniforms probably isnt going to happen since the database is full, and we cannot edit the soundtracks
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Postby jonhpipepipe on Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:03 am

Just reporting... OF COURSE i am satisfied with this Project, period.

What i'm talking about it's having in one game the best stuff avaiable, i lost almost ten years (modifying, editing, replacing, creating and working really hard my brains to come close to the level we're right now), so as we're light years ahead of what i seemed almost impossible to achieve we gotta think about those next finals steps.

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Postby wac3meehan on Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:03 am

I've been meaning to suggest an older-looking Larry Bird for he 92 Celtics and the 92 Dream Team. He doesn't need a mustache, and he needs shorter hair. I really hope this appears in version 19... and soon ... Only when possible, however ...
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Re: Ultimate B Roster V18 RLSD [252 Teams/20 New] + 2013 ROO

Postby jonhpipepipe on Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:04 am

JaoSming wrote:HAWK's already mentioned that adding uniforms probably isnt going to happen since the database is full, and we cannot edit the soundtracks


Replace, is a option? Not add, replace.
And modify soundstracks isn't possible, that really a shame... No way at all??? C'mon...
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Postby ChrisBrodbeck on Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:10 am

I gave old Larry Bird a shot:

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what do you guys think?
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Postby jonhpipepipe on Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:26 am

ChrisBrodbeck wrote:I gave old Larry Bird a shot:

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what do you guys think?


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Postby MJALLDAY on Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:28 am

ChrisBrodbeck wrote:I gave old Larry Bird a shot:
Well done sir.
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Postby MJALLDAY on Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:36 am

Hawk if you don't mind can you change one of the accessory colors for the Magic Johnson Laker teams (1980-1991) from purple to blue. I'm pretty sure they always wore either blue or yellow wristbands, kneepads, elbow pads, compression shorts, etc. back then.
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Re: Ultimate B Roster V18 RLSD [252 Teams/20 New] + 2013 ROO

Postby HAWK23 on Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:28 am

Alright... I'll try to give a response to everyone:

DUNCANISGOOD - The link works fine for me... may want to try it again

MJALLDAY - I have a really good Larry Bird CF older version from Nuhmete - this one made by Broderick looks good too... I'll use one of them for sure. Good thinking about changing the Pacers coach CF too.

ChrisBroderick - EXCELLENT work on editing Coleman - AND great work editing the jerseys - everything you posted will be included! You're a machine!

Aaron21 - I know... I appreciate that.

Johnpipepipe.... exactly what jerseys are we missing? It seems like you feel there are tons of jerseys missing... could you share with me specifically which ones are missing? What jerseys should be replaced? I'm confused. Also, as Jao mentioned it's not possible to edit the music. People wayyyyy smarter than me have been trying for months to edit the soundtracks in the game. They haven't been able to crack it yet.

MJALLDAY - yes I can change that... these are the types of things I'd be interested in changing... I also believe the 00-01 Clippers colors may be wrong as one of their accessory colors are black (where as I think red and white are probably what they used). Keep those type of suggestions coming and I'll take a look at it. So all the Laker teams from 80-91 should be blue like that? Blue and gold?

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Postby jonhpipepipe on Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:54 am

HAWK23 wrote:
Johnpipepipe.... exactly what jerseys are we missing? It seems like you feel there are tons of jerseys missing... could you share with me specifically which ones are missing? What jerseys should be replaced? I'm confused. Also, as Jao mentioned it's not possible to edit the music. People wayyyyy smarter than me have been trying for months to edit the soundtracks in the game. They haven't been able to crack it yet.

Thanks guys


You're welcome,

First, i made a list of this jerseys, i do not have them made (i'm not a jersey maker) and that's why i went for jersey makers, i'm not done yet with my list, but i'll send to u when i'm done;

Second, not tons of jerseys, but several (don't be mad about it, or frustrated... Cause a big jersey collection takes a pain to be done), as i said when you saw my list you'll find out which ones i'm talking about (and it don't means you have to include them);

Third, what i wanna say with the replace idea is to have those jerseys made... Then you go and paste them over the ones you want to substitute, i gave the Utah's example at the post above;

Fourth, don't be confused, those are simply suggestions, you or anybody else don't need lose hair about it, if you don't know how to put songs, imagine myself? heheheheh, so be cool about it, at some point and maybe in the future, some smarter and wiser guys will find out how to make it, so there are my suggestions, period.

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Postby MJALLDAY on Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:10 am

Thanks Hawk & yes from 80 to 91, I know for sure they wore either blue or yellow accessories.
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Postby HAWK23 on Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:12 am

Johnpipepipe... I'm not "mad" or "frustrated" at all... I'm just trying to figure out where you're coming from and what jerseys are missing... there are hundreds of jerseys in the mod, I'm just at a loss at which ones you say are not in it...
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Postby jonhpipepipe on Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:02 am

HAWK23 wrote:Johnpipepipe... I'm not "mad" or "frustrated" at all... I'm just trying to figure out where you're coming from and what jerseys are missing... there are hundreds of jerseys in the mod, I'm just at a loss at which ones you say are not in it...


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Postby ChrisBrodbeck on Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:09 am

Thanks for the kind words Hawk! I don't care if you use Nuhmete's CF or mine, I learned something in blender, thats enough for me! He's a way better graphics guy then me anyway!

If for any reason in the world you want mine too, here's the CF:

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And here's the last post for today: 3 more jerseys

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First 2 are jerseys for your 92/93 Clippers team

The third is another version of the 96 Bucks home jersey, only difference is that the nba logo is on the left shoulder here, in the V18 jersey its on the "wrong" right shoulder!

ALL JERSEYS ARE FROM INBAR'S 1997/98 MOD!!!! ALL CREDIT TO THE ORIGINAL CREATORS!!!!

3 more Jerseys LINK: http://www.mediafire.com/?d442mjk1bp70ccj


Okay, last thing!

I just figured out how to avoid the "fat bodytype shorts bug": Change the Shorts Style to "Modern"!!!

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I'm only aware of Bryant Reeves having that problem right now, and if you look at the picture, the "modern" style looks just fine for those jerseys!

For quick editing Hawk, the textures for the 2 Vancouver Retros are "uvana" and "uvanh"
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Postby HAWK23 on Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:29 am

Hey man when you say change them to "modern" style do you mean changing the short lengths to the long style? For example Oliver Miller of the 93 Suns should be the fat body type, but he has the glitch issue. However, if I change the shorts to the long style (modern) then the rest of the Suns players will be using the longer shorts too, when in fact they should have the 90's shorts. Does that make sense?

Also thanks for your 3 other jerseys and the LB CF - definitely will look at using.
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Postby ChrisBrodbeck on Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:48 am

Yeah, its kind of strange, I just checked some other "fat guys", so the bug only appears when:

a.) the players bodytype is fat and
b.) the teams shorts style is 1990's/middle

To fix this bug we could look into the following solutions:

- fix the 1990's/middle shorts-style parameters: Not sure how to do this, not even sure where to look for that
- change early 90s teams with fat players on them to retro, late 90s teams to modern shorts style
- change player bodytypes to the next fitting type
- leave as is


Here's a list of players that are or will be effected by this bug:

Duckworth 91 Blazers
O'Neal 96 Lakers
Lauderdale 96 Hawks
Williams 92 Clippers (Will be effected in V19, since Hawk changed that teams shorts style)
Roberts 92 Clippers (Will be effected in V19, since Hawk changed that teams shorts style)
Miller 96 Raptors/99 Suns (Would be effected if bodytype is changed)

Just my two cents how I would fix this:

Duckworth: change team shorts to retro, 1990s blazers have retro and it works!
O'Neal: change his bodytype to athletic, he was pretty lean that year, at least at the olympics the summer prior
Lauderdale: change Hawks shorts to modern (tough one)
Williams/Roberts: change Clippers shorts to retro (early 90s team)
Miller: Change both to modern, like Lauderdale, the 96 team is a though choice, but Miller was pretty fat, as was Lauderdale. And retro just doesn't fit for both teams.

A more drastic move to keep the continuity alive, would be to change every jersey from season 96/97 up to 99/00 from middle to modern! That would also fix the problem!
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Re: Ultimate B Roster V18 RLSD [252 Teams/20 New] + 2013 ROO

Postby HAWK23 on Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:17 am

MJALLDAY - what do you think:

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P.S. Was this color blue for their home and away accessories? Or just home (gold jerseys)?
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Postby HAWK23 on Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:21 am

Broderick - I'm just going to leave the jerseys as is and change the handful of player body types to the closest body type without the shorts glitch occurring... I'm not going to change team jersey lengths just to make Stanley Roberts, Oliver Miller, and Priest Lauderdale look fat... haha
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