Developer Insights: The Jordan Challenge

[Andrew]

First edition of the Developer Insights for NBA 2K11 has been posted. It includes a full list of the Jordan Challenges as well as a list of the classic teams that will be immediately playable. It also mentions signature shots, moves and tendencies for all the historic players as well as hinting at alternate commentary.

The Challenges:

The Arrival
When: April 20, 1986. Game 2, 1st round playoffs vs. Celtics
Goal 1: Score 63+ points
Goal 2: Shoot 50%+ from the field

One-liner: Jordan made his mark with this 63 point playoff game against a heavily favored Celtics team.

69 Points
When: March 28, 1990. Regular season game vs. Cavs
Goal 1: Score 69+ points
Goal 2: Shoot 50%+ from the field
Goal 3: Win the game

One-liner: This time Jordan gets the win by dropping 69 points and putting a dent in the Cavaliers’ playoff plans.

Shootout
When: Any date in 1990. Regular season game vs. Hawks
Goal 1: Outscore Dominique
Goal 2: Hold Dominique under 25 Points
Goal 3: Win the game

One-liner: Jordan and Dominique Wilkins face off in some of the all-time greatest scoring performances of the era.

Bad Boys
When: May 26, 1990. Game 3, Eastern Conference Finals vs. Pistons
Goal 1: Score 47+ points
Goal 2: Win the game

One-liner: Jordan showed the Pistons and the world that no defensive strategy could stop him for long.

1991 NBA Finals
When: June 2 thru June 12, 1991 vs. Lakers
Goal 1: Average 31.0+ points
Goal 2: Shoot 55%+ from the field
Goal 3: Win the series

One-liner: Jordan silenced the doubters by coming back from a game one embarrassment to thrash the Lakers in these Finals.

The Shrug
When: June 3, 1992. Game 1, 1st round playoffs vs. Blazers
Goal 1: Score 35+ points in the first half
Goal 2: Make 6+ threes in the first half
make 6+ threes in the 1st half
Goal 2: Hold Drexler to under 20 points
Goal 3: Win the Game

One-liner: Just to prove a point, Jordan sets the tone for the series by dominating the first half of this first Finals game.

Double Nickel
When: March 18, 1995. Regular season game vs. Knicks
Goal 1: Score 55+ points
Goal 2: Shoot 55%+ from the field
Goal 3: Win the game

One-liner: After a stint with the bat, Jordan returns to New York to tear up the Knicks for 55 points and an unforgettable pass.

Father’s Day Victory
When: June 16, 1996. Game 6, 1996 Finals (last game of series as Bulls won 4-2) vs. Sonics
Goal 1: Score 22+ points
Goal 2: Grab 9+ rebounds
Goal 3: Win the game

One-liner: Michael ran the table over the entire league but this fourth title would prove to be just as special as his first.

The Flu Game
When: June 11, 1997. Game 6, 1997 Finals (not the last game of the series as it went to 7) vs. Jazz
Goal 1: Score 38+ points
Goal 2: Grab 7+ rebounds
Goal 3: Win the game

One-liner: A very ill Jordan still manages to both dominate the game and hit the winning shot in the last seconds of the game.

Michael’s Last Dance
When: June 14, 1998. Game 6, 1998 Finals vs. Jazz
Goal 1: Score 45+ points
Goal 2: Get 4+ steals
Goal 3: Win the game

One-liner: With one final resounding shot, Jordan seals both his legacy and the fate of the Jazz’s championship hopes.

And the teams:

1985-86 Chicago Bulls
1985-86 Boston Celtics
1989-90 Chicago Bulls
1989-90 Atlanta Hawks
1989-90 Cleveland Cavaliers
1989-90 Detroit Pistons
1990-91 Chicago Bulls
1990-91 Los Angeles Lakers
1991-92 Chicago Bulls
1991-92 Portland Trailblazers
1994-95 Chicago Bulls
1994-95 New York Knicks
1995-96 Chicago Bulls
1995-96 Seattle Supersonics
1996-97 Chicago Bulls
1996-97 Utah Jazz
1997-98 Chicago Bulls
1997-98 Utah Jazz

[shadowgrin]

1991 NBA Finals
When: June 2 thru June 12, 1991 vs. Lakers
Goal 1: Average 31.0+ points
Goal 2: Shoot 55%+ from the field
Goal 3: Win the series

One-liner: Jordan silenced the doubters by coming back from a game one embarrassment to thrash the Lakers in these Finals.

Wow, five games just to complete the challenge. Sweet.

The Flu Game
When: June 11, 1997. Game 6, 1997 Finals (not the last game of the series as it went to 7) vs. Jazz
Goal 1: Score 38+ points
Goal 2: Grab 7+ rebounds
Goal 3: Win the game

One-liner: A very ill Jordan still manages to both dominate the game and hit the winning shot in the last seconds of the game.

Someone at 2K forgot to check their NBA facts. The flu game was game 5 and the Bulls finished it off at game six.
I'm also guessing that Jordan's stamina rating for this challenge will be really low.

For now, here are the Historic Teams that will be immediately available for you to play this year:

1985-86 Chicago Bulls
1985-86 Boston Celtics
1989-90 Chicago Bulls
1989-90 Atlanta Hawks
1989-90 Cleveland Cavaliers
1989-90 Detroit Pistons
1990-91 Chicago Bulls
1990-91 Los Angeles Lakers
1991-92 Chicago Bulls
1991-92 Portland Trailblazers
1994-95 Chicago Bulls
1994-95 New York Knicks
1995-96 Chicago Bulls
1995-96 Seattle Supersonics
1996-97 Chicago Bulls
1996-97 Utah Jazz
1997-98 Chicago Bulls
1997-98 Utah Jazz

Like current teams, you will get the opportunity to play all of these teams in Quick Game, Association, Playoffs, and Season mode. So want to find out how well your current team matches up with the best Bulls teams? 2010 Lakers or Heat vs. 1995-96 Bulls anyone? The possibilities are endless.

Nice. Can't wait to try these out:
1989-90 Cavs against the current Cavs, Sonics vs. Thunder, 1985-86 Celtics against the current C's, and the 1994-95 Knicks vs. the current Knicks (just for the lulz).

[Andrew]

Someone at 2K forgot to check their NBA facts. The flu game was game 5 and the Bulls finished it off at game six.
I'm also guessing that Jordan's stamina rating for this challenge will be really low.

Didn't notice that, well-spotted. Good call on the stamina rating too.

1989-90 Cavs against the current Cavs, Sonics vs. Thunder, 1985-86 Celtics against the current C's, and the 1994-95 Knicks vs. the current Knicks (just for the lulz).

I'll be using the 96 Bulls against the current Lakers.

[atlwarrior]

no wonder the 2k crew was so relaxed when Elite was revealed all of those new features. I bet their so laid back right now. You can actually tell they are because theyre not quick to release trailers, videos, and screenshots, etc. Theyre probably seeing those Elite developers as a joke. No respect.

[Andrew]

I think the positive reactions to NBA 2K10 and the sales figures had a lot to do with as well. I mean for argument's sake, say the gameplay in NBA 2K11 isn't up to scratch; would the Jordan Challenge really matter? Who'd want to bother playing through the challenges if the game wasn't enjoyable to play? I don't know that it's an all-conquering trump card but it's certainly an enticing extra feature, though I'd expect there will be a contingent of gamers who don't care about it.

[SpriteAlpha]

Being able to play with all these historical teams is fantastic news, really! But it's crushing news to me that you will not be able to play as the '85 Lakers. Understandably, they're only letting you play with and against teams that have had historical matchups with the Bulls, but with the '86 Celtics there, and the fact you can play as two Jazz teams only one year apart, I was really hoping you could play with the '85 (though I wouldn't contest too much if they used the '87 or '88 team, ha) Laker team, which is arguably one of the greatest teams ever assembled. It's been my hope for years that I could play with such a team in an NBA 2K or Live game, so it's sorry to see that even with these great opportunties in 2K11, it's still not possible But well, hopefully the MOD community could do something about that And at least I get the '91 Lakers team, which is no poor present..

[Andrew]

Well, they did mention that those would be the teams that are immediately playable. That seems to hint at other historical teams being available and presumably unlockable.

[SpriteAlpha]

Whoops, I didn't notice that

[Fcuk Orlando]

I hope in the Jordan challenges that you can choose to have a player lock on Jordan like my player mode!

[nikonix04]

i see..so no orlando magic.. when his airness is still #45.. i remember he lost the ball??..

they will not inclde that.. coz its downside..

[Jeezy]

No realistic box scores in these folks...Jordan gets the ball every possession, and every possession must end with a Jordan FG attempt. This is gonna be fun. Reminds me of my opponents on 2kOnline who try to emulate this mode with Lebron and Kobe before it was announced.

[Andrew]

I hope in the Jordan challenges that you can choose to have a player lock on Jordan like my player mode!

I'd assume so.

[The X]

Shootout
When: Any date in 1990. Regular season game vs. Hawks
Goal 1: Outscore Dominique
Goal 2: Hold Dominique under 25 Points
Goal 3: Win the game

One-liner: Jordan and Dominique Wilkins face off in some of the all-time greatest scoring performances of the era.

The Shrug
When: June 3, 1992. Game 1, 1st round playoffs vs. Blazers
Goal 1: Score 35+ points in the first half
Goal 2: Make 6+ threes in the first half
make 6+ threes in the 1st half
Goal 2: Hold Drexler to under 20 points
Goal 3: Win the Game

One-liner: Just to prove a point, Jordan sets the tone for the series by dominating the first half of this first Finals game.

Father’s Day Victory
When: June 16, 1996. Game 6, 1996 Finals (last game of series as Bulls won 4-2) vs. Sonics
Goal 1: Score 22+ points
Goal 2: Grab 9+ rebounds
Goal 3: Win the game

One-liner: Michael ran the table over the entire league but this fourth title would prove to be just as special as his first.

And the teams:

1985-86 Chicago Bulls
1985-86 Boston Celtics
1989-90 Chicago Bulls
1989-90 Atlanta Hawks
1989-90 Cleveland Cavaliers
1989-90 Detroit Pistons
1990-91 Chicago Bulls
1990-91 Los Angeles Lakers
1991-92 Chicago Bulls
1991-92 Portland Trailblazers
1994-95 Chicago Bulls
1994-95 New York Knicks
1995-96 Chicago Bulls
1995-96 Seattle Supersonics
1996-97 Chicago Bulls
1996-97 Utah Jazz
1997-98 Chicago Bulls
1997-98 Utah Jazz

Sounds good

I agree with 8 of the 10 challenges. I'm not a huge fan of the Dominique & the Sonics' one. I like the idea of playing in Jordan's freshman NCAA Title game for North Carolina to beat Georgetown, & also maybe that All-Star Game or maybe you could have slam dunk contest against Dominique.

The Blazers' challenge will be one of the hardest since MJ's 3pt ratings shouldn't be that good (say low to mid 70's at best). If they make MJ's 3pt rating close to 80 then it is a farce

Hopefully they add more great unlockable teams from Jordan's era.

[Andrew]

The Blazers' challenge will be one of the hardest since MJ's 3pt ratings shouldn't be that good (say low to mid 70's at best). If they make MJ's 3pt rating close to 80 then it is a farce

What if it's only boosted when playing with the 1992 Bulls within that challenge, similar to what shadowgrin suggested in terms of his fatigue rating for the flu game? It wouldn't be quite as challenging, granted, but it might be a good way of simulating how on fire he was in that game.

[shadowgrin]

Considering the 'new' range of ratings (25-100) for 2K, even 70-75 is already a bit high for that version of Jordan. I think somewhere between 55-65 is about right and if he gets a boost for that challenge because of being on fire as Andrew noted, 70-80 rating should be the case.

[Lamrock]

Looks like a fun gimmick, but just that. Won't buy it unless they fix the gameplay.

[KyotoCarl]

Looks like a fun gimmick, but just that. Won't buy it unless they fix the gameplay.

No need for that comment. Of course they've worked on gameplay too. They try to make the game better each year and 2K is not know to just put gimmick features in the game.

[Andrew]

Why is there no need for that comment? Everyone's entitled to their opinion and allowed to post it.

[Lamrock]

2K10's gameplay wasn't very good. The AI was atrocious, and even with the right sliders, the game was the most arcadey installment to date. With Elite, EA is actually focusing on the gameplay, and for that reason, I'm leaning towards buying it.

[hova-]

I doubt that you won't find the same/other flaws in Elite. The problem with 2k10 is just, like with almost every game: if you play it too much, you notice the major flaws. That makes associations a worse gaming experience than playing a game here and there. So they definitely need to work on these bugs for us association gamers.

But right now, with limited time, I play a 5 min per quarter game with the 10/11 roster here and there and it's quite entertaining.

[Lamrock]

After like my second game in 2K10, I noticed that it was inferior to say, 2K7. My hopes for Elite aren't that high, but I thought Live had slightly better gameplay than 2K this last year.

[Fcuk Orlando]

Derrick Rose playing the Jordan Challenge
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[shadowgrin]

Derrick Rose has girly eyelashes.

[Angelo]

Why is he wearing an apron?

[JaoSming]

this is why



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